KTM 890 Adv VS Honda Africa Twin 

Both the AT and T7 are great bikes for reliability and parts availability. If you haven’t done so, I recommend you drive both bikes first. If your not racing or trying to set a world record, I think a lot of it comes down to how you fit and feel on the bike for your body size and height etc. another thing to consider is how often you were going to be using the motorcycle for what type of trip and at what speeds.

@@paulrod6760 everywhere i want to go is 7 to 10 day trips so the cruise control is the only thing that knocks the T7 and at 61 weight is a considiration. The T7 is impossible to find for a test ride. Think Im going to wait on the AT 750 launch and see what it brings.

@@barendfourie6687 For American offroad the KTM is the better bike depending on your skills, if they are low the T7/AT is better and yes they are more reliable.

Unfortunately both bikes shares a healty list of reliability issues. Hondas are not as perfect as people think

@@sspirito3130 lol, honda with reliability issues? Ya I call bs on that. I'm sure some do have issues, but nothing compared to other brands, such as KTM. I'll take my chances with a honda over KTM any day. I've put 2600 miles on my AT DCT, not 1 issue so far. Other then the seat being pretty uncomfortable, I really enjoy this bike so far.

@@curtisbull1583 My experience with Honda was pretty average to put it nicely. I can safely say that the Africa Twin was the most unreliable and most expensive bike I owned. Let me give you a hint of some of the issues you will face just out of the warranty period: - Leaky forks due to worn off coating. Honda will replace the seals just to get you over the warranty, but the only solution is a full fork replacement at your own cost (approx. 10% of the cost of a new bike) - Fuel pump failure due to dislodged sediments from the tank (there was a recall in some countries but not all countries) - Rear wheel bearing failure - Rust on spokes, rims and brake bolts - Rust on frame welded joins (this is pretty serious and there is no easy fix) - Random gremlins with the instrument cluster - I am glad I did not extend the 16K mi service interval, as all exhausts valves were way out of spec. BTW, the valve checks service was more expensive than a Ducati desmo service, as half bike needs to be dismantled to access the valves I was not unlucky, all of the issues above are well documented on the various AT forums, so it wasn’t just a lemon bike. This was for a manual model, people with DCT have plenty of horror stories to share. The AT is a fantastic bike, but don’t buy it because of its ‘legendary’ reliability - build quality and components are below average.

I resent KTM for charging customers for their electronic packages. We are not software buyers 😡

Actually that’s not true yet my 2022 890 adventure r was built in Austria,KTM had to hold off on production in china due to COVID and supply chain issues

@@munger2166 yep, not made in China. Heat from the Catalytic converter is a real thing, 1290 had it from the back exhaust (2017-2020) new one has it from the radiator in front of your knees (2020-2022). 890 has fixed a lot of 790 issues, and the 2023 890 would be a step forward again. But the heat from the cat will be there, although you can buy cat replacements..

@@niw-w1f only the 390 is made in china.

@@barendfourie6687 even that i doubt since its the 690 engine. maybe all the other pieces.

Lower octane fuel have more Ethanol mixture which have lower energy density and damage the engine. Ethanol attracts water, blends the oil and corrode sealings so if you want your engine to have good fuel economy and last longer you should stay away from low octane fuel.

@@fredrik999z What are you basing your understanding of the concentration of ethanol in low octane gas on? I've never heard this before that lower octane fuel has more ethanol in it.

fair point ! I noticed and tried to be better on the Tuareg video.

@@northof49adv thank you! we can hear you the same if you stay behind the moto hahaha a lot of reviews of a lot of chanels dont show the motos and we want to see them! thank you for your videos

Not just happily, but likely with higher horsepower and efficiency when running correct octane.

For motorcycles that are fuel injected and have a computer, I’m wondering if it would automatically adjust to the different octanes. For example my car will and it doesn’t matter what I put in it. Remember, the octane rating does not indicate the amount of energy contained in the fuel it’s really more about the timing of the ignition. I.e. to avoid knocking

@@SWTrailsAndWheels Exactly. higher octane fuel is not "cleaner or better". The engine is designed for a particular octane... Use that one.

Check the touratech day 2 video, that might help you make a decision ;)

@@northof49adv will do... I'll take an the advice and tips I can get prior to this purchase

Rode both KTM is a way better bike now own a 22 KTM 890 r adventure and will never buy a Japanese bike again

@@munger2166 The Honda is also not the bike to be compared with the KTM, it is a total different beast. It is more in the 1290 section and the 1290 kicks the whole high end adv level but again depending on what you want.. for example the 1250 GS(A) is the most luxurious and more tempered.. Also don't tell me crap about lc8 engines when more and more people reach the 200k (km) while they often being pushed much harder than other brands (different beast and riders).

Waiting on my 2023...

@@slavetothegrind872 Enjoy your new KTM 890 adventure R great bike love mine,I ride it almost everyday very reliable great gas mileage,the new 23 looks really good.

I guess we will never know lol

You missed the trigger warning at the beginning of the video lol 😂

Where is the 890 made?

KTM 890 adventure r still made in Austria not chinaYET my 22 KTM 890 adventure r was built in Austria

What part of the 890 has poor reliability?

I see!🤠

You don’t know what your talking about I’ve owned both sold the Honda kept the KTM 890 adventure r lol your funny

yeah, bullshit reaction. I had a lot of problems with my KTM but i was just very very unlucky. and none of the issues where a big problem offroad in the middle of nowhere except one that needed the dealer (but was done on the 600 mile maintenance anyway). The KTM adventure R is a way higher level than the AT for trials, but I do think an AT will outlast a KTM though.. If you want to compare a 1100 to a ktm get the 1290 adv R but this requires balls and/or skill.

Where do I start? The Honda guy in a T shirt with a modest “Honda logo”and the ktm guy in a fancy KTM jacket. I know a 2023 owner has to cycle the power regularly when the signal lights fail to work, rims leak air, the engine sounds like it’s going to fall apart, very tall, had to have mods done to make this “premium” bike useable. He was disappointed in how much he’s had to do to it. Talk about drinking the orange koolaid, you ktm guys are religious. I’ll take my AT anywhere that KTM will go and probably farther and cheaper.

Merci !

Great advice.

You were right it was all staged , how did the camera know when to show up ? #conspiracy #flatearthforever

@@northof49adv 🤣🤣what does that even mean 😳 😕?? Didn't you bring the camera with you 🤔 or did it have a bike of its own , maybe another KTM 890 for when the first one brakes down , tell me are the electrics covered yet under warranty or is it still only mechanical coverage 🤔 😉 😳 As far as I'm aware Honda have FULL coverage in THEIR warranty but let's not forget how savage the KTM 890 is , how many times did you tell us that ?? 🤣🤣