This is only a Trench digging Training Ground and has nothing to do with this shitty rumor that Ukrainins have conquered large amounts of russian Territory Sir.
"NATO is involved" reminds me of Zelenksy's joke: - NATO and Russia is at war! - Really?! And what are the casualties? - On Russia's side - hundreds of thousands of lives lost, lot of equipment destroyed. It's a disaster. - And NATO?.. - Well.. um, NATO hasn't joined the war yet..
They're justifying their losses by saying that they're up against all of NATO. Lol, no. The weapons supplied to Ukraine are in low quantities, and very few of those are the best stuff. Even himars and atacms provided are the more limited versions. And, again, in low quantity. They're absolutely not up against NATO. And to top all that: NATO's main power is air power. There was absolutely no NATO air power in all those staggering losses. And no naval power. No ground troops. Nukes aside, (no winners in a nuclear exchange) they'd be pulverized if they were up against NATO.
If they really are building them on the south side of the road I am not sure that is a terribly good idea as if Ukraine get on the road you can just roll up the line. It does make logistics easier I guess and given that's Russia's weak spot so probably why they are doing it.
yes they are. You have no idea what's goin on. It's been happening for the past 10 years, but you never heard anything.... of course . F16, storm shadows, atacms, western intelligence... Whos that ?
do you really think they would announce their plans to the world for no reason you can use your brain a little and assume their is some kind of subterfuge going on, and there is a reason the offensive is so publicized and reported on.
@@CyberBeep_kenshi Not yet? I believe they have just stalled the speed right now to try and ween the public off, then some time in the future they will remove it completely.
@@Ghosts1129 i thought it had 'technical issues' now. but some get acces through vpn. so basically every russian within now and a few months are paid trolls
Так склалося, що вони завжди нас вважали за «молодших братів», і їм соромно визнавати поразки від українців, бо в їх голові такий собі фашизм, який ставить їх вище інших слов’ян. Для них ми «тупі аборигени» без культури і взагалі частина їх імперії. Тому вони завжди при кожній поразці від України ниють, що це було НАТО, Америка, зірка смерті і прибульці з Марса. До речі, у вас в нікнеймі ваше справжнє ім’я? Дуже красиво звучить,
AND, India...just check the Hindustani Times. That's the two largest countries in the world. The India navy just celebrated Russia's naval day in St. Petersburg by having the crew of at least one large vessel giving a stiff arm "hiel" salute to Putin and Putin responding accordingly. Every Western country who uses India to provide cheap labor should remember that.
India: just sucking resources at a discounted price. PRC: using RF as a political pawn, cheaper resource provider and good market for overpriced low-to-medium quality products. IRI: needs to boosts their nuclear ambition. All are oportunists, the taker in the relationship. Then NK: after half of a century, finally someone's that declares friend of the regime. Love is in the air...
@@99solutionsit10 Where do you get the info that they are "friends" That is quite a 12 year old argument. Countries help countries out of interest not because they love each other. USA don't love it's vassals, it's in their interest.
@@dafyddchandler2514 maybe, but something tells me ukr for this prefers folks who are confortable with russian language, to make comunication with civilians easier.
Whether the power plant was the goal or not does not matter. If Russia does not defend the power plant it becomes a prize of opportunity. Slava Ukraine!
Putin pulled out his Ouija board and summoned the ghost of Stalin. "How do I protect Kursk from an invasion? Stalin replied "Beg the USA for a lend-lease, use the Ukrainians to fortify your positions, and send 4,000,000 troops"
The analysis you provide is better than any correspondent in America could dream of providing. The geolocation of the engagement then see the fight take place or at least the aftermath is surreal. I grew up watching the news and the casualty report every night during the Vietnam War. Keep up the good bro, you are knocking it out of the park.
82nd Special Air Assault Brigade has boots on the ground with elements of the famous Georgian Legion plus many others. God bless them all. Stay safe everyone.
@@pR0ManiacSsince 2014, 2 or 4 Chechen battalions. Unfortunately before the 2022 invasion, Ukraine traitors (FSB influence) managed to extradite some leaders
I had a moment of realization when I saw the village names: Oboyan, Prokhorovka... Yep, it's the very same place, only without the Soviets' gigantic defenses and three army groups. This time it's being attacked straightforward, instead of pincers. Oh the irony of history! The historical battle of Kursk was also done at the exact same time, about two years into the war. We may be approaching the Schwerpunkt here.
Well,it is in the same ball-park but not really like July 1943. More like March/April when Manstein first wanted to pinch off the salient before the SU had had a chance to dig in as you say. Because this has all the elements of a massive surprise because of that old SU favourite, maskirovka. Also, would have been more historically apt to have gone across the border N of Kharkov towards Belgorod. But hey-ho history doesn't repeat exactly even if it is ironic as you say. Interestingly, as others keep pointing out, the DE there at the time in their post-war memoirs or recollections all considered themselves to be fighting in UA e.g. Guy Sajer talks of it being UA lands. Although the number of ethnic UA has significantly decreased locally after 2014 and the closing of the borders as tensions subsequently escalated. Those, of course that had been in AGS in the summer of 1941 or, later knowing 1st Galicia wouldn't be at all surprised to find 80years later the UA at war with their long-time RU oppressors. As in another constant, as ever RU never learns from its own history...
@@ostwelt indeed, the terrain is the same, but the forces, strategy, tactics, even the scale and whatnot- all are different. Sajer is an interesting example, as it is an open question where exactly did he serve and some of his memoirs are proven to be fantasy. Having said that, the place probably wasn't all that different here or there, as it was all a part of the Russian Empire, then the USSR, as Ukrainians didn't manage to carve out their state like us Poles and our Baltic friends did. I guess now the history corrects itself, it took a hundred years for Ukrainians to again make a statement of who they are, just as we did in 1920 in the Battle of Warsaw. There will be an anniversary four days forward, I hope the Ukrainians will also have something to celebrate by then. The miracle at Sudzha, ha! I actually feel sorry for the Russians. First oprichnina, then first world war, then the civil war, then the Bolshevik terror, then the second world war and then the utter mess of communism, one after the other. Yet they still do the exact same thing to the exact same results. So much suffering, yet they bring still more.
@@bjorntrollgesicht1144 Good points though think we can all hold different opinions about the veracity or not of "Forgotten Soldier". I wouldn't have quoted it if I thought it a fantasy 😏 And whilst much is different from '41-3 much is the same... How does one achieve a military solution in so much territorial space? The same problem that Napoleon faced too. I have given up feeling sorry for the SU/RU. My wife is from BY. And at least they had a crack in 2020 at overthrowing a buffoon dictator. If the RU didn't since Peter-the-not-so Great that isn't the fault of the West, as they say but, the fault of its citizens. And they then reap the results... I do feel slightly sorry for the peeps Kharkov-Belgorod as this is my favourite part of all eastern Europe. Long wanted to buy a house there... Glad now I haven't - yet! That many FSU republic and their people have struck out for freedom and economic growth is one of the greatest achievements in my lifetime. As a former Cold War soldier - claiming no credit - I think this has been hugely to everyones and especially Europe's lasting benefit. If only RU had become Westernised CN wouldn't even be a C21 threat...! My fantasy now :)
@@ostwelt hey, I really enjoy Sajer too! It's just treating him like an actual historical source- I'd be careful here, as not everything he wrote was true- for example his Hauptmann was proven not to exist, as there was no such officer on the GD roster. But that's really nitpicking, your argument in principle is correct. I think there are operational differences and big ones. Neither side is banking on a breakthrough, entering operational space and exploiting. Here it's more about inconvencing the enemy to the point they no longer wish to wage war, as neither side is able to achieve a large scale operational breakthrough. Actually I am already afraid of the consequences this war will have on Russia regardless of how the ground war plays out. Winding down the war production, removing all the benefits for soldiers, getting their market going and finally answering the question "so what was it all for anyway?" will send ripples. Putin is waging this war on time borrowed from his people and once it's time to cash out, there will be trouble for decades to come. I would recommend waiting with that house, Russia is not going to be a safe place once this is all over.
What’s been really impressive about this is the opsec and media silence from the Ukrainian side so far. There have been some issues in the past with people being too quick to post things or announce capture of locations, but this operation seems to be really locked down.
They really don't understand, it's not necessarily the plant itself, but the power grid that's the issue, as it forces them to shut the power station down.
If Ukraine shuts down the nuclear power plant in Kursk, as a safety measure to prevent an accident, it will be difficult for Russia this winter. Can the railways be used?
I don´t assume that Russia has enough troops in the area, i predict that Ukraine will first build up secure lines of logistics, overreaching in such an andvance is a seroius danger, like the Russians did on the battle for Kyiv and got cut off from their supplies.
This is a most over-played concern. We are talking about a well-planned operation that has the logistical train in mind from Day1 - unlike the RU initial invasion which simply envisaged success in 48hrs with no logisitical requirement thereof. Out-running supply trains means outpoacing the 24hr two-way distance of the truck fleet. UA is a long, long way from that. Especially as the centre of the axis is a main A-road. If they can keep local air-superiority then it's not going to be a problem at all.
@@ostwelt Still you need to secure your logistics lines with your forces and keep your flanks protected. Most ruski drones are daylight vehicles, supply and movement is mostly conducted during the night and not with big trains. And Yes this operation is a "Textbook" operation and very well planned, from recon, local air superiority to op sec.
@@gilde915 are you saying russian supply and movement is mostly during night? did you not see the video a mobik posted recently showing off the giant convoy he was a part of during the day? I dont think there is any regularity to their movements honestly.
Probably referring to “NATO”. The Akhmat unit commander that was interviewed and said the Ukrainians somehow “snuck by” his men’s positions claimed that the operation is being planned and carried out by NATO special forces and NATO HQ. Lol
I do not think NATO wants the example of using Nuke plant as a terror weapon. What I do think they might do is to get close enough to destroy the power transmission infrastructure while leaving the power needed to keep the plant safe.
I suspect Ukraine might be over what NATO wants. We've been trickling in just enough aid so Ukraine doesn't lose. Ukraine wants to win. And, the US is so fickle and with potentially pro Russian Trump as the next president, Ukraine needs to do what Ukraine needs to win or force Russia to the negotiating table where Russia gets their territory and power plant back in exchange for leaving Ukraine.
I'm sure that Ukraine doesn't want a nuclear disaster only 100km or so from Sumy. Even Kyiv isn't that far away. Putting the plant into cold shutdown would be good, but might be difficult to achieve without undue risk. I believe the Kursk NPP has two reactors of the same design as Chernobyl, and we've found out the hard way that those are not particularly stable during shutdown.
@@alexandermonro6768 They can be safely throttled to minimum output in less than 24 hours. Doing it in 8 minutes, though, is not advisable. But if Ukraine captures the KNPP I don't even think they're going to shut down the power production. They'll use it as a bargaining chip to force Russia to allow the International Atomic Commission access to ZNPP, inspect that everything is operation-worthy and boot it up again. Ukraine BADLY needs ZNPP to produce power, as their grid is damaged and has problems transferring energy from Europe all the way to the eastern parts. The grid was always designed to have ZNPP and (now gone) Kakhova hydro electric plant feed that sector.
@@alexandermonro6768these things were not stable during shutdown after a full power test ordered because of political pressure, this test itself taking place after a prolonged low power run generating neutronic poisons. The graphite tip issue on the SCRAM rods has since been fixed (no more graphite tips) and any self-respecting nuclear engineer knows not to be as moronic as Dyatlov.
@@andersjjensen That all makes a lot of sense. We'll see if this is what Ukraine manages to do. I'm pretty sure that they won't risk damaging the plant with artillery though.
They see the Georgian unit flag and say others are attacking Russia! But also Georgia is Russia! But it's not civil war? They don't know what to think :)
Georgia was an established completely separate country long before Moscow and russia existed, don’t conflate being annexed by russian empire and Soviet Union as “Georgia is russia”
@@puraLusa ye there is a LOT of iron/steel production there. btw also the reason russia invaded. this was never about 'restoring the empire'. its theft. oh how the tables are turning:-)
@@-aKa-AL_7- It's Kyiv. It's been Kyiv for 30 years, ignorant much? And no, the russofascists have no claim on Kyiv. Unlike Ukraine and Kursk, and Kursk used to be Ukrainian territory before the orcs stole it.
@-aKa-AL_7- cry harder bot. Just when you thought russia couldn't be humiliated any harder 😅😅 nuclear power successfully invaded by the poorest nation in Europe 😊😊😊😊
Noone needs Russia. Not even Ukraine. The borders should be back as it was in 1991 and Russians should mind their own business in their own fcked up country
The 🇷🇺 tank you showed that was captured after 🇷🇺 done a propaganda video near a river, 🇺🇦 geo located it , then put their colours on it.. P S 0 1 on x… 🇺🇦
The NPP and Gas terminal are sideshow. Forget those! Russia cares, but Ukrainian objectives are likely not about those. They just happen to be in the place.
Alexander Kushner's recent analysis concluded that he thinks the objective is to move the line of contact close enough to Kursk, for Ukraine to hit military infrastructure there. Belgorod and Kursk are the principal economic and military centers in southern Russia. Ukraine can reach Belgorod, but Kursk has been too far away.
tbh, the NPP is an economic heart of the region. But ive also heard about the river could be the desired new defense line to dig in for Ukraine. For sure, they are not planning to leave - untill its the smartest option.
@@Avo7bProject Is that really worthy of a ground invasion with the risks it entails? Just moving forward so as to bring ground fires to bear on Kursk. Seems a bit far-fetched as a single-reason. Suspect that there are just so many decent reasons to do this. Can put together a list of about two-dozen. None of which, apart from de-stabilising VVP, are likely to end the war (but what campaign ever does?) themselves however, in aggregrate they take UA closer to winning it. Especially in comparison to grinding battles in the Donbas which aren't at all militarily or politically releveant. Especially if one thinks Trump would force peace talks on UA that would cede the Donbas to RU. Why on Earth now then fight to the death over hamlets there that have to be given to RU gratis under Trump's "peace plan". That makes zero sense. Taking a chunk of RU oblast(s) for bargainning chips et al does though.
@@concernedrabbit9075 Some of these like targeting the NPP do I fear stray into, what are in modern times, considered to be war crimes. So whilst admirable in inflicting pain on the enemy might see UA cross into hot political water that bring no benefits except revenge.
It’s true,that the tree folk in the lord of the Rings really helped Bilbo Baggins out !.So it’s understandable for the Russians to attack shrubbery and those mischievous trees.
I find it extraordinary improbable that Ukraine would setup a key HQ in an isolated, open sky children's camp; and set this up so quickly and so deep; and not in any location like a basement or urban area with defenses. An HQ out in some remote buildings out in the hills, not in a town where troops and supplies flow, is just nonsense.
@@viandengalacticspaceyards5135 LOL, that must have been a sight. It's been interesting to see how they put cope cages on motorcycles. I do understand that it keeps the exploding grenade/ drone a bit away from the vehicle, and I understand why it might work for armoured vehicles. But I fail to understand how that net would protect the rider of a motorbike from the shrapnel damage. The net doen't really make the rider less exposed. 🤔
@@larsrons7937 At best, it would prevent a birdstrike. Useless, but counterproductive too; the guy was zigzagging all over for lack of balance, and so could not get any real speed. But there are such panic builds; I saw a Scoobidoo van with explosive-reactive armor glued to the windshield.
@@viandengalacticspaceyards5135 You... You... Do you know what you just did? _"Scoobidoo van with explosive-reactive armor glued to the windshield,"_ you nearly made me kaput my keyboard with my coffee from laughing. But thanks for the joke. 😂 Is that true? Did they really do that? And did they check if those boxes were in working order, or filled with cardboard or foam?
Great report Suchomimus, a really nice overview of Ukrainian armed Forces activity inside Russia. These maps show well the vulnerabilities each military faces in their operations very well. It seems this Ukrainian operation has been very well planned, and has in place a sustainability that other like incursions never showed. The size of seized territory vs the rate taken is stunning. This speaks to some obvious Russian blindness which is in itself quite interesting. Again my thanks, I am sure you've been working at breakneck speeds to bring all of this to us. Nice job my friend, 🇺🇲🇺🇦 Glory to God, Victory for Ukraine, Rise Free Nations!
I hope the individuals who thought Russia was a powerful country are now shamed of themselves. NATO could while the floor with the Russian military if they had a direct conflict.
I wonder if Ukraine is not really interested in claiming the nuclear power plant yet but use it as a goal so to attract Russian forces to the area from the front lines. If Russia does not take the incursion seriously or decides to not send in more than a token force to stop them maybe Ukraine can reach it and use it as a bargaining chip, whatever there goals are they I am sure have there plans to achiever them. Supply lines are important for ammunition, but once organised and relatively safe caches are built up, i see Ukraine advancing fast again to capture the plant and surrounding areas. These defensive lines will become very useful to Ukraine if they can capture them once fully completed.
Exactly. RU has to defend it or else UA will simply walk in and shut it off (As a bargaining chip to get elctricity from ZPP). And to stop this whilst RU could use conscripts it won't as they would get whipped by UA. So it has to bring back quality contract soldiers from Donbas to secure the NPP and environs. Just threatening it is sufficient from the UA side. But this is the beauty of this move compared to defending meaningless acres of Donbas (steppe) as there are so many high-value targets of opportunity/benefit in Kursk Oblast: the gas infrastruture, the railway lines, iron mines, the power lines, the sugar crop, the Kursk defence industries, incursions into Belgorod and Bryansk oblast, the shortening of defensive UA border frontiers and lines etc etc ... All these things open up in this move when there simply aren't comparables in the industrial wastelands of the Donbas. And that is before one considers all the massive political headaches it is causing VPP and the Kremlin.
Classic Blitzkrieg is to go where the enemy isn't, exploit gaps or seams in the defense and bypass resistance. Eventually, you have to curl around and cut off the remaining front-line resistance, but they know that too, so the threat that they might be cut off can induce a retreat, as we saw in the offensive east of Kharkov in autumn of 2022. All of this requires that the attacker move and make decisions faster than the defender, AND have reserves to bring up to defend the flanks of the penetration and surround the centers of resistance that are now in the attacker's rear. That's why the Ukrainian high command is so silent about what's going on: Blitzkrieg depends on the enemy's not knowing your progress and finding out that he is surrounded when it is too late to pull out. After the Ukrainian offensive culminates, the front lines stabilize, and everyone knows where everyone is, we'll find out what actually happened.
Status of the Russian Army: 2022 - Second Army of the World 2023 - Second Army in Ukraine 2024 - Second Army in Russia August 2024 - Second Army in Kursk
Nobody needs to attack a nuke plant when there are transmission lines it MUST connect to. You don't even need humans to attack the lines, and they stretch for HUNDREDS of km.
RU propaganda is saying it is PL troops along with UA. Free RU forces are a major political headache. As was Vaslov to Stalin. So this is the last thing they will ever be saying publicly. Except when they have "crushed them" [ahem from a propaganda POV]. The GE forces are relevant but not a boggyman in the eyes of RU propagandists. There is more leverage from PL as a ghost of the past invading this way in 1920s... Saying it was NATO would up the stakes far, far too much. As then VVP would really have to appear to be acting in defence of the state. Frankly, no-one wants that as it does rather imply going nuclear. So, despite it being "NATO"-type equipment in play it is smart of the RU propagandists to keep the rhetoric more moderated. Obvs RU have to invoke an outside force in the invasion as obvs by themselves the UA would not be able to invade big-brother RU. Hence the invocation of others to salve the RU conscience about being invaded by the smaller, formerly allied state! There will be no sleep in the Kremlin and associated bunkers. VVP will be getting a real insight into Hitler's psychological problems now...
There have been picture of Georgian flags among the attackers so the Ukrainian force includes Ukrainian regulars + the Russian Legion + the Georgian Legion.