People were really fucked up when discussing suicide victims back in the day. No wonder poor Kurt couldn’t get the help he really needed as the media hounded and shat on him hard for his addiction. RIP you were to smart for your time Kurt
@@rc59191 Yeah it's amazing that anybody actually believes it was suicide with all the evidence showing it was not, that he could not have done it, that there was the paper that Courtney was practicing some letters on, and those were ones used by her at the bottom of the so-called "suicide note," that she had the motive, he was going to leave her, she was after the MONEY, she was dangerous - also Eldon Hoke was hit by a train and Kristen Pfaff overdosed........both very convenient for Courtney....she needs to be in prison the rest of her life...at least prison.....
Obviously I don't agree with him but I noticed that there was not any kind of follow-up question about the shirt from the person talking to him. Unless the question was cut out. She asked about the shirt and that was it. That's honestly how it should be. I feel like if this all happened these days then there would be this entire discussion on how wearing the shirt is wrong and there would be 6 people surrounding him screaming that he needed to take it off etc. She was just like ok here's the shirt, it's his opinion, let's move on
It's not our place to say if someone went to Heaven or hell when they died. We can't even say Adolf Hitler is in hell, it's not up to us. God's ways aren't ours. In fact it's a sin for us to say a person went to hell.
God, I remember that day so vividly. I was very young, 3rd grade, and my best friend and I were the only ones who even knew who he was and were really sad. It was the first time in my life anyone I knew of had committed suicide. Admittedly I think his death sort of gave birth to a lifetime of suicidal ideation as a way to mentally escape a tremendously abusive childhood. Even if I didn’t ever intend to act on it, it was oddly comforting to know there was an escape hatch if I ever needed it. I’m sure this will be shocking to some, but I know others will understand. (I’m fine now). But yes, definitely a vivid and impactful childhood memory.
@@jk4675 please take a second and listen how insensitive you sound. Kurt had serious demons and he couldn’t take it anymore, so he did what he thought was right.
Just a picture of what mental health awareness was at the time..... Getting into the mid 90s.... The way it was back then I probably would've punched that kid right in the face
"Its a cop out" I hate it when people say that. As someone who has gone through something like this it's so demining hearing that. Some people's pain is so powerful that you feel like quitting. Putting someone down or belittling someone because of a choice they have with pain is so judgemental
Well my husband passed away recently 😢...I am hurting bad..and I believe that he is in Heaven...or going? Depending on whom we believe, Catholic- pergotory. Christian ✝️ with God now.
I don’t see the Sid vicious comparison at all and saying Kurt is in hell that fresh of his death that’s just cold enough but to go out of your way to make a shirt saying it too trying to promote the shit is sad
That’s how I learned Stan Lee died. Except I was a big fan of him. Hell, him and his creations made me who I am today. When my friend told me about it, the news hit me like a brick. At the time, I had spent three years pursuing my future career to work in the comics industry (still am) and I practiced drawing and wrote little short fanfictions any chance I got. I even planned on meeting him. But sadly, that will never happen. He still inspires me to this day though.
For some time, due to the fact that Courtney consumed drugs while pregnant, press used to call Kurt and Courtney in the 90s "The John and Yoko of grunge" or "The next Sid and Nancy"
Nobody questioning how did that last guy make a kurt is in hell shirt litterally the day after his death. Like he even has unique font man must be a dedicated Kurt Cobain hater which you just gotta respect the dedication to absolutely hate one person that much
Wow I can not believe how vicious people were told like that. Painting a negative picture rather than the victim he is.. Yes peace be with you my friend. The fan knew with her heart something is not right.
My mom said when she heard she just didn’t know why he did it. Why would someone so on top end it all? Of course that’s before everyone was more concerned about mental health and whatnot.
as a sex pistols fan and nirvana fan too, i can kinda understand why the girl said he's trying to be like Sid Vicious, (Kurt did weird shit on stage and i've seen him sneering, like Sid did)
Typical of society, at 30 seconds in, the girl is slamming him with ‘I think he is trying too hard to be like Syd Vicious’ and then when she hears he died, she gets all dramatic and devasted. Total crap.
@@CaddRome It was used as the cover art of an unofficial bootleg called Dawn of the Black Hearts. Euronymous (a really weird dude) took a bunch of photos, one of them he gave to someone who used it for that cover art, all the other ones are lost media. Euronymous also repositioned the items and I'm pretty sure even Dead's body. The photo is super low quality. I can't handle gore, but I can handle that photo, it doesn't even look real. Mayhem's story is super messed up.
I remember when Kurt Cobain passed away but it's unbelievable though but was he murdered or was it really suicide it's really been weird after all these years
Of course he killed himself, think about it man, weigh the mitigating factors. First off, it's a conspiracy that he was murdered that literally started a day after he was dead, well before anyone had any evidence or details about his death. Secondly he was a serious drug addict with serious mental issues, he was suicidal well before his final attempt. At the time of his death they had DNA forensics and many other resources available. If he was murdered, by now, we would have been informed of some kind of evidence pointing to exactly who it was. We even know who killed Tupac and biggie now and that guy was in a completely different vehicle. Kurt had a manic episode that was likely drug induced. The drugs also intensified his mania and he shot himself.
Yeah but his fingerprints were not on the gun though whoever bought the gun for him their fingerprints were on the gun so I think it was murdered because there is no way he could have killed himself with that shotgun and said sayonara because how could someone inject themselves with heroin and shoot up and end up shooting themselves he didn't kill himself it was murder hundred percent Kurt Cobain was murdered
That t shirt that the last dude is wearing is disgraceful.people obviously did not know about mental health back then. was he looking for attention or what?
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1:22 every one sins, so i guess that means we're all going to hell. Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
There’s no "misinformation" there, he took his own life, with a shotgun in his mouth! He used his toe to pull the trigger! I feel more sorrow for the handyman electrician that found him while doing some maintenance on Kurt’s house!
He had multiple failed suicide attempts, and Courtney saved his live when he OD'ed in Rome. Even if she killed him she didn't shorten his life by much.
Kurt could be in hell, but if you commit suicide with full knowledge, then that’s a sin. But usually when people commit suicide, they have demons haunting them, and Kurt was on heroin so he did not have full knowledge.
it’s not a sin, people who do that (for the most part) are not in the right state of mind, they have a mental illness. they’re not in hell, they’re finally at peace moron. and hell isn’t even real, it’s mentioned NOWHERE in the bible
@@kutazin1818 hell is for bad people. Kurt isn’t bad just because he did drugs and killed himself. Kurt had a shit life, and he felt he had no way out. Sending him to hell is adding insult to injury
@@wantutosigh1117 I don’t think Kurt was a victim of murder, I think that’s just a stage of grieving and people don’t want to believe he actually committed suicide. His life was fucked up at that point, so it really makes sense that he killer himself
@@Nathan-xt6gz damn long stage of grief. I don't believe he committed suicide because of the information we have. I would be well over that stage of grief if there was nothing to it. Kurt was in a miserable marriage that he desperately needed to get out of which he was in the process of doing. He was also being pressured by managers and others to keep performing and making money when he wanted to take a break. And he was still addicted to heroin. Those were things going on in his life at that point. All things he was strong enough to overcome and straighten out.
