KXNG Crooked on Slaughterhouse Drama, Not Trusting Joe Budden, & Why He's Ending The Group For Good 

Same

Man I’m with you on this one really … that shit gon be awesome …

Em is VERY OK

That would be amazing!

Call it Shady & Crooked

🤣🤣

Facts lol

It's crazy because as a fan I REMEMBER when Joe announced that he signed with Amalgam digital before he released Halfway House (which I believe the og Slaughterhouse track was included on) so how was his signature ever forged?? 🤣😄🤣

😂😂😂

That embarrassment of a clown jb. Sad 😞 guess.

That’s a fact!!!

Should be up for verse of the year

That was genius

Crook on some bs. Why in the hell would you give up your ownership when you only had it for 1 year??? Hes clearly on some shady bs.

Royce deserve a shot. I think he has morals and principles he stands on but when what you stand on tears you between two people, or two sides, you tend to make wrong decisions at some point. Don't think royce a bad dude at all. I just don't can't agree with Joe. My opinion of him has changed over the years. Music or not.

STFU... FU for not shouting out Joe B...

@@joeadkins338 royce has done and said some questionable shit in the past tho. Like with the whole lupe fiasco and Micky facts situation.

Exactly

That album was ass

@@BigFishTheory fuck outta here that shit banging

@@BigFishTheory your ears are azz

@@BigFishTheory what was ass about it?

Man stop lying

100% , I started hearing his raps only 6 years ago, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I always am on the lookout for new Crook ish

@@smonster9807 you are really working hard in the comments. It’s ok that you can compare Crook and Budden and then come out on that side but it says a lot about you.

Wrong crooked is always looking for the clout and money and has sold out for it with this album . Nope crooked want to exploit and use the fans

@Fionn McCausland nope crook is not the man and he lies and betrays people all the time . Crook sold out for money and clout with this album and can sell records or be relevant without the slaughterhouse name

Facts.

Super Facts

Yup. Both joe and Royce move like punks.

@@FollowerOfChrist144 nope joe & Royce move like bosses and people who don't need slaughterhouses name to sell Records and to be relevant like Crook and joell

@@jamesroy9657 shut up joe

@@nara8989 I mean… he’s right

The album is out already

You can listen the album on spotify now

Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WUbWCpEz6TA.html

Or he is trying to cause problems and drama still. Just be honest he didn't like joe, he did the same thing. They both acknowledged they have no relationship and both felt comfortable talking to royce. Royce being able to mediate is a general not a foot soldier quality

Royce put together the Eminem interview that Crook did, he produced an album for Crook's brothers, and he was helping Crook with his solo album but Crook stopped answering Royce's calls when he knew he was putting this out.

@@TheLight859 when royce and Joe saying they are lying. They are talking about this part. Notice crook still ain't give a month for the release from shady. Crook acting like a martyr burning it for the fans out of pain all caused by joe...

@@jonathanaragon5819 I never said anybody was lying if anything I'm saying Rouce had been the plug and glue for the whole group, if anyone is putting him in the mix as a foot solider then that's fucked up.

@@TheLight859 ya we are in agreement. The facts you pointed out to me is the truth I think joe and royce are upset about

This is his perspective and his “truth”, not THE truth. Each member has their own story and THIER OWN truths to share. 💯

@@BallerBrownsWorldMusic1 Complex Situation, Slaugherhouse, Rory and Mal, His Issues at Def Jam...it seems like Budden is always the problem in all of these situations, I think Crook is telling the truth

@@BallerBrownsWorldMusic1 bro.. Joe, on camera, said he doesn’t feel like he owes his friends respect Lmao. Then, on camera, said he told Crook he’d call him about the album but didn’t plan to. Joe, on camera, admitted he signed the shady deal never intending on seeing the shit through. So… I’m gonna take that as confirmation

@@PHOENIXQ2024 mic drop

@@BallerBrownsWorldMusic1 The phrase "his truth" (and any variation thereof) needs to fuck off a cliff. There is one truth: objective truth. The real, actual, absolute, irrefutable, objectively true truth! You even said the right word there, it's his and Joell's 'perspective', their side of the story, which is what the album is. Outside of the four of them, there isn't anyone that knows what the actual truth is because it's an internal issue, it just so happens that from what we can piece together from what we know of them (mostly Joe), the truth most likely lines up with Crook and Joell. Joe is the problem because Joe is always the problem, he's a self-destructive, self-sabotaging asshole who doesn't give two shits about anybody that isn't Joe Budden.

Nah he wack as fuck for using the name

@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs PhD

@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs FOH. Joe said he's retired. Why does he fucking give a fuck? smh

@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs Album is under the name of Kxng Crooked and Joell Ortiz as recording artists tf u talking about

@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs he 1/4 he can share his side of this story goofball

FACTS!!

Yes sir

Never thought of that, fire 🔥

Take my money

Add king push and I'll retire to I'm to old too listen to rap music

How is this clarity? It’s just his side of the story

You just gonna take one person's side as truth then? Lol

Me too fam

That is cap 🧢!!! getting one side is not clarity. This is not the way it works!

These is these people can shut up, getting anything from them when two aren't even speaking on it is clarity enough! Joe talk every damn day and hasn't said anything about slaughter house. All I know is this album has instant play in my truck!!

He’s a sell out

All he did was talk in circles. He also admitted that he knew Joe wasn’t going to do any deal he negotiated, and that when Joe sent word back that he wanted to see the contract he said there was no need to get lawyers involved.

Great comment only thing I might disagree with (a little) is Royce being way cooler with Joe. I think Joe is in zone by himself and Royce is the only one that really messes with him, whereas the other 3 have a relationship of sorts. That leaves Royce being the middleman, and honestly on the lives he just seems chilled and cool with whatever happpens..he just doesnt want to do Slaughterhouse as a 3 man crew.

We don’t know what to believe and basically the person you like more will be the version of the truth you choose to believe ..

@@bobbymendoza2938 wrong are y'all really following the whole situation or not?

Amen

Lool I was/is a big fan of Joe the rapper and when I saw he was uploading RU-vid videos back in the day I naturally started to watch and follow his uploads. Bit by bit, due to his treatment of Tahiry (who has her own issues) I realised he was a complete a hole. It got further cemented when he started doing Everyday Struggle and tried to backhandly son DJ Akademiks every episode, however because most people see Ak as a lame, people didnt have a problem with it or just thought Joe was a real one (most had probably not seem him before ES as well). After ES was done I really couldnt be bothered to follow him anymore, mainly because Podcasts take up too much time and I knew he was a toxic person so I didnt watch JBP like that. It just humours me that people 10 -15 years after my realisation are still struggling to see or come to terms with how destructive the man is. Imagine tuning in to your favourite musician and slowly coming to realise how fucked up they are as a person. It's hard to come to terms with and i think a lot of people are going through the same delusion I had to go through.

@@cnsmooth the Rory and mal saga was the end for me. I still watch bit and pieces now and then but being such a bad person and ALWAYS playing the victim is too much

Let’s not forget the Ransom/A-Team situation too .. everyone he ever works with something he does causes it to go to shit

@@dante6637 lol ransom was clout chasing to be fair

@@cnsmooth What ? How ?

Lucky youi hope one day imma be able to do the same

I think Joel should make it his own group of lyrical killers, you could tell the man still wants to create and do his thing I think he should create a group birthing a new generation of emcees into this game. I don't wanna see Joel go under the rug I want him to push in career to new height and new beginnings. When it comes to crooked I'll say this he has the best flow as a lyrical technician perspective. His flow is so technical and every syllable is attached to his flow. He's one of my favorite rappers; he's in my top 10 of all time

facts

You used an exclamation....but facts!!!

Definitely in the argument but I'd go with King Los then someone like Crooked.

@@Louis-uq2jc why you here then?

It’s not straight, it’s just his side of the story

@@bluupill do the maths

@@bluupill why y'all so mad? 🤣

@@JDean-oe1ux because fuckem!! That’s why lol

@@bluupill Oh no, you just can't handle truth. A true disciple of Joe Podcast.

That says everything imo

He actually was on a flight at that time. He went live shortly after he got off the plane

Check out my dope beats when you have time on my channel

no em verse for either of them ever again without that royce relationship

@@niiboiowoo4621 lol since when has Royce controlled Eminem? Just because the group ain’t cool with each other doesn’t mean Em isn’t, I mean except maybe with Joe lol

@@tacomanrocks5704 maybe you dont know the bond royce and em have from detroit, thats probably the only reason they were even on shady. I guess we'll find out if youre right tho, dont hold your breath

@@niiboiowoo4621 dude Em didn’t go on crooks corner and show huge love for crook as a favor for Royce

@@tacomanrocks5704 so true, em knows hip hop better than pretty much anyone and he for sure respects the fuck outta crooked

True. 2 chainz voice

@@SMAKSHADE 💀💀💀 I heard your comment instead of reading it bruh

Nawh that's still some bitch shit 100%. That's called doing something out of spite...its a female trait

All Royce ever does is talk and pace around his studio. He became a phony, that's why Lupe murdered him

@@kasamu735 the worst part is, Royce didn't respond back on wax and instead said he let Lupe and Mickey Factz live bc he gave them life, and that he'd end anyone. All talk no action what a fking 🤡🤡🤡 Royce used to be one of the goats but he been moving real sus since Lupe destroyed him

I disagree

not even close but that’s your opinion

Royce is imo, crook is a goat don’t get me wrong but Royce is just different.

@@MultiBluedog123 facts. those Prhyme albums with Premier are masterpieces and dare I say as good as Gangstarr albums

It's difficult cuz Joell is 🔥.It's a tie between him & Joell.

They are streaming on tidal if you looking bro

That shit ain’t selling 10K not like it matters but fuck them and their shitty clout move

It’s an unnecessary album honestly, 17 tracks that could be described in a 5 track EP. or not at all

@@tekkadawn6685 clout move?

It's a MONSTER-PIECE! LOL AND A MASTERPIECE!

Can you check out my beats that mad dope if not it cool

@@officialhb4794 okay. Check my music too lol

Joe's head didn't get big. He's always been like he is. And if you've listened to him over the year, way back from the start, that type of ego done always come through with him. I done always had a love/hate feeling about Joe over the years. He's one of my favorite lyricists, but I can see how he'd be a hard person to be around. He's got a big headed arrogant way about him I can see that would rub people the wrong way.

Crooked is not humble and he sold out for money and clout with this album

Exactly. If you ask a girl out, and give her your number and she never calls you, are you going out now? Are y'all a couple? FUCK NO! THATS A NO. ACTIONS SPEAK WAAAAY LOUDER THAN WORDS

@@nogrecords haha exactly bro… man joe n royce are acting like some females out here lol like just relax my dudes if you didnt want to do it then dont do it go do you wtf is the problem.

Bro you acting just like them. Entitled!! Business was bad and now they hurting for money so they decide to do this

@@BigFishTheory business was bad because of who?? N money was bad so they wanted to put out a album whats wrong with that? Cause i havent really heard them diss them at all.

Okay so just do an album without mentioning Slaughterhouse or burning the Slaughterhouse logo 🤔 how is that difficult ?

That's called stupid

He not stand up. Real niggas would have called the album something different. The group is over why is he trying make dollars off it? And it should just be called the Fall lol they been cold as the freezer for a decade

@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs It's the fall of slaughterhouse, that's the concept, telling that story...

Basically saying no is subjective, actually saying no is objective, which would you rather act on, subjective or objective?

@@periseanbaltimore4064 I wouldn't act on what someone said, i'd look at the actions to see what it really is, who said what is irrelevant

Say it loud so that clown can hear I’m disappointed in myself for being a supporter for so long but no more

@@justmy5984 the dudes personality is content for sure, but the way he handles relationships destroys everything he helps build

@@tcsprynce5748 yup and it’s bcuz of his ego

He ruined a-team as well if I’m wrong

@@bYz4rEel I think ur right

I’m glad you said this!

Copped it this morning, gonna check it out in the following days.

Hmmmm interesting point

artist should NEVER let fans dictate what art they should or shouldnt out out. crooked and joell are dope rappers but boy can they not move on

@@paulelroy6650 what are you taking about. This is their way of moving on. Their music , their art. You don’t just do it for the passion and the love you also do it for the ppl who support you , the fans

@@Zenquis FACTS

@@Zenquis so what your basically saying is do something you don’t wanna do because your fans want them to do it

@@Zenquis they are doing for the fans before themselves though thats the problem

Yo wiz kid I think this only the beginning my guy peace

yes joe walked away because he was done with music yet crooked and joell couldnt move on and were pissed they wouldnt making much money. this album is just filled with them complaining that they arent a group anymore what the fucks so fire about that

@@paulelroy6650 he’s telling the world what happened and that’s what you got out of it? Joe wanted to make all the money and put the album out himself.. that’s insane lol and people definitely are fucking with the album

@@chopon1902 budden been pulling the same act his whole life .. def jam ,complex, Rory and MAL now this ? Who’s the common denominator ?

@@chatta718 joe didnt want all the money for himself what the fuck are you on about

@@chopon1902 you taking it the heart and it’s hilarious. Your daddy is a snake don’t be mad at the messenger.. he was talking shit about Nikki her husband showed up ,pressed him and now she got a pull-up ? Be mad at your daddy not me 😂

It is over so why didn’t they get a new name or logo 🤔😂 dame ain’t still saying he with roc a fella

i didnt get the royce part why royce wanna joe that much

Of course you don't speak for every SH fan, but you DEFINITELY speaking for me, personally. That is EXACTLY 💯% HOW I FEEL

Nope

@@xavierxero4091 you are mistaken, the idea of slaughterhouse started with the fans, they all got together on a track on Joe's mixtape then the fans went crazy for that shit and said they should start a group.

Exactly they didn't diss Royce or Joe and they could've but they didn't that's some grown man shit

@@thebiggerreality18 while royce and Joe are on the socials with the drama gossip shit.. I was a big buddens fan I lost a lot of respect for him after the rory mal podcast situation. Joe always has been a sicko did you know that Joe's son Trey made a diss song targeted at his own father its called Trey Budden - Thoughts after the courtroom

@@NIO4LIFE exactly I was a joe budden fan as well man now glasshouse is gone but I guess they had to burn the pig now

SERIOUSLY!! That's 💯%

Doesn't come off that way at all, if anything it comes off as nobody really cares about Joell, and that impression is given by Joell himself as well. But I won't say anything beyond that, I don't know the history like that.

@@Dezzyyx Yeah. Things changed. It’s been over a decade. The problem started with Shady. Joe had beef with eMineM. Crook took eM’s side which Joe found it to be disloyal. Royce stayed neutral. Joell was on Joe’s side. There are interviews where Joell implies this. Still, time passed, and they didn’t release music. They all went to their separate corners. They all did their thing. Crook found a lot of success but nothing major. Royce got a Grammy nomination. Joe making several millions, most money he ever made. Joell, found success but not without the cost of constantly being asked about SlaugherHouse. This happened to Crook and Royce as well but it’s different. Crook was always planning on moving forward eventually. Royce had the luxury to vent his frustrations to Joe. Royce and Joe yelled at each other over the phone because Royce had to go to every interview and deal with not just the SlaugherHouse question but also, whose side are you on, eM or Joe? Royce had the blessing of talking with Joe and letting him know how he thinks he fucked everything up. Joe at the end apologized for making him go through that. Joell never got that. Crook never got that. Crook and Royce stayed in contact. They kept their bond strong. Everyone forgot about Joell. What makes it worse is that Joell was the only one who was on Joe’s side when it came to his beef with eM. Joell burned a bridge with eM while Royce and Crook built on it. Then Joe is talking smack about Joell behind his back. Nothing too negative but enough to let everyone know he doesn’t view Joell as a peer. I had no idea Joe wasn’t talking to Joell. If I would’ve known that, then I wouldn’t have kept my hopes up for SlaugherHouse. Joell was the one who kept everyone cool with each other. Once everyone forgot about him the group was doomed [x]