KYKEON | The Drink of Greek Heroes

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A healing potion in The Iliad & The Odyssey, and a drink to commune with the Gods in secret Greek Mysteries, Kykeon has a fascinating history. But my questions is, how does it taste?
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KYKEON
ORIGINAL "RECIPE" (From The Odyssey)
"...and made for them a potion of cheese and barley meal and yellow honey with Pramnian wine."
MODERN RECIPE
INGREDIENTS
- 1/2 Cup (100g) Barley Meal
- 1 Cup or more (235ml+) Dry Red Wine
- 1/3 Cup (50g) Goat Cheese crumbled
- 2 Tablespoons Honey
METHOD
1. Add all of the ingredients to a small sauce pan and mix together.
2. Set pan over low heat and, stirring continuously bring to a simmer until thickened. (If the kykeon has thickened too much, stir in more wine until you achieve the desired consistency.
3. Remove the pot from the heat and pour into a glass and allow to cool a bit. Then serve. (The drink can congeal if allowed to sit too long. If that happens, reheat the drink.)
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@TastingHistory 3 года назад

If you are hero enough to make your own Kykeon, please share a pic on Instagram and Twitter with the #tastinghistory

@unexpected2475 3 года назад

inb4 the "how did you comment one day ago" comments

@sheenachristina2385 3 года назад

TastingHistory- you ever look at some of these recipes and think, “this had to be a dare...or a joke that was taken too far?” Your face said it all. Thank you for taking one for the team. You are now among the Gods and Goddesses. 🤪

@Telenaus 3 года назад

im wondering if it could be better if the cheese & barley were finely ground i mean really fine ground

@ericwilliams1659 3 года назад

@@unexpected2475 I have seen that before, I assume they can upload the video but have not made the video public yet.

@lairdcummings9092 3 года назад

This looks like what you'd feed an invalid, or someone recovering from nasty wounds. Protein, carbohydrates, sugar, in a reasonably sterile suspension - in an easily digested form. Proof that hospital food has *always* sucked.

@erikn6765 3 года назад

Trojans HATE this. Try this ONE DRINK that ACHILLES drinks EVERY DAY.

@ariss3304 3 года назад

Achilles died to the Trojans :)

@aitorfanderomeosantos8558 3 года назад

@@ariss3304 that's what the trojans want you to believe

@nicolecampos4153 3 года назад

@@ariss3304 but he still killed their bestia soldier and they still lost the war, lol

@64standardtrickyness 3 года назад

actually on that note was the drink just for injuries for also everyday consumption?

@jacksonp2397 3 года назад

lmao this is so good

@Hoi4o 3 года назад

I have the feeling this was meant as a medicinal calorie bomb, and not like some recipe to enjoy drinking.

@jgkitarel 3 года назад

Yeah, pretty much. It was the kind of thing you gave to those who were severely injured or were ill to give them calories. It is also the kind of thing that would work in a pinch when cooking a proper meal was not something you had the time for so it was also likely something that Xenophon's army probably consumed more often than they liked during their march across Persia during the Anabasis.

@JensVanDeAarde 3 года назад

bruh the Kykeon used to be a psychedelic and very visionary drink ancient greeks only had one chance in their life to drink it and if they didn’t got enlightened they had to wait for their next life

@jgkitarel 3 года назад

@@JensVanDeAarde Wouldn't surprise me if some, like the oracles and temples, added something to it to engender that effect.

@JensVanDeAarde 3 года назад

@@jgkitarel ergot-fungi from barley used to be that „magic“

@DeclanMBrennan 3 года назад

@@jgkitarel With the added advantage that's there's no chance of anyone malingering. "Still feeling rough ? Have another Kykeon. " "I'm good. Take me off the sick list."

@javbooficial 2 года назад

In my country, Chile, we have a similar "drink". Is called "chupilca" and is made with wine, toasted flour and sugar (optional), no cheese, no cooking. It was really common until the 90s and it was mainly drank by poor people and rural farmers. Its main purpose was to get drunk and a full stomach, because it was really cheap. So if you don't have the money to buy lunch, you might aswell drink a thick, sweet chupilca

@Blueshirt38 Год назад

Eso suena como tanto para emborracharse. Tienes la historia de por qué la gente chileno hacía chupilca? Cuando se puede beber vino y comer pan, por qué hacer sopa de pan feo? Por cierto los agricultores tenía un horno.

@jiazhenwang7494 Год назад

@@Blueshirt38 I guess because making liquid, mushy form of bread soup will make you fill your belly easier than just eat bread, at least they use less flour. It's what ancient Chinese farmer will do when they don't have enough grain. Instead of eating rice they add a lot of water into it to create a kind of rice soup...

@homerc9101 5 месяцев назад

You are an idiot if you think is anywhere near the same. What you are describing has existed since roman times

@homerc9101 5 месяцев назад

@@Blueshirt38 No tiene idea de lo que esta hablando. En ningun momento de la historia de chile el almuerzo ha sido mas caro que el vino, en especial en areas rurales.

@alexs2195 4 месяца назад

really similar, has wine on it :)

@julscatten2640 Год назад

I am rewatching this much later, after the iconic fish pudding episode, and thinking Max should make a playlist of “Oh God No”.

@lightawake 2 месяца назад

Please yes. I would watch it lol

@tsm688 29 дней назад

hahaha. he likes nearly all of them, I was beginning to wonder if there were any he didn't. Fish pudding? I guess that makes two.

@khakimzhanmiras 3 года назад

In 2000 years people will be like “meth: the aether of heroes”

@aaronembry9692 3 года назад

Most famously used by the hero known as Floridaman.

@GNMbg 3 года назад

Walter White and the Argonauts

@josi4251 3 года назад

If it does make heroes, not for very long. I know some meth heads (both in recovery and not; I'm in AA/NA), and they don't hold up well.

@josi4251 3 года назад

@Usa mabaho Actually, I'd have suggested crack. It has better humor potential.

@williemays2 3 года назад

@Usa mabaho --- no shit --- where'd ya find antique dexamyl? and was it still potent --- asking for a friend ----

@stevenryan830 3 года назад

My grandmother used to make a version of this. The mistakes you made.... Dry wine (yuck) instead use a fortified dessert wine like Port. Second cook your barley meal separately... Should cook up like malt-o-meal.... Mix port and meal to desired thickness. Top with with feta and honey. A few toasted pine nuts goes well as a garnish.

@1963pipo 3 года назад

Steven Ryan That sounds a LOT better ! Thank you very much.

@saintwarsaw 3 года назад

I think it’s fitting that the dry wine is sorta gross. The point was to get a close approximation to the pramnian wine, which was described as very strong and sour. The way your grandmother prepared the barely is probably a good thing to try out if he ever re made this

@hcheng02 3 года назад

@@saintwarsaw Though he could have compensated for the sourness by adding more honey.

@anafegan6797 3 года назад

Was he was describing the wine used I was thinking to myself that port wine might make a suitable substitution. I actually like your recipe, I think I might give it a try!

@marshawhite6949 3 года назад

Thank you!

@1leon000 3 года назад

Farmer: *eats bread he made using barley with ergot* Farmer: *why am i seeing the gods?*

@DrNeonGaming 2 года назад

"Holy shit I'm blasting out of both ends! My heart's a'seizing! My lungs a'wheezing! The fucking walls are melting! I hear the voice of Satan, he's telling me to invest in Apple! What does that mean?! Why does Satan want me to buy apples?!"

@makkerfelix 2 года назад

Gods telling me to invest in apple, why does he want me to buy apples Congrats if you get the reference

@lordagthulhuguy7066 2 года назад

@BaxiTube I’ve always wondered how much religious history can be attributed to mental illnesses that cause hallucinations, like Schizophrenia or even trip-induced psychosis (or the other ones i do not know the name of)

@Levacque 2 года назад

Ancient Greek farmer tripping on bad grain: *you know, this shit would make a great basis for a really fun cult* (disclaimer: Greeks referred to specific godly worship as cults, like a cult of Athena being centered around her temple Athens as well as any other of her temples around Greece. Harmless stuff in context of their culture. But look up the Eleusinian Mysteries - it was a strangely all-inclusive cult that had "secret" parties that lots of people were aware of or attended, but nobody was allowed to talk about afterwards. Some people think they were binging on ergot wine. Sorry for the tangent hahaha.)

@Orrphoiz Год назад

@Theo Paidi yes there is. The burning thorn bush? Probably an acacia, it's native to this region and contains a fuckload of DMT. If you inhale the smoke from that of course god starts talking to you. Also multiple mentions of 'Manna' the 'bread from the heavens' that 'comes with the rain', like... Mushrooms.

@TheToddcole 3 года назад

As the "Max REALLY hates this" laugh reaches its crescendo, and his eyes fill with "no, really, max RRREEEAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYY hates this" tears, I somehow knew he was going in for a second taste.

@sagarroy8679 3 года назад

What I thought I would get: Delicious Greek Berry Smoothie 😁🤗 What I got: Ancient Alcoholic’s Oatmeal 🥴🤢

@REX-gq6ur 3 года назад

with cheese, goat cheese

@xasharchangel4445 3 года назад

I also thought it’s gonna be some delicious berry smoothie or grape!!! xD

@REX-gq6ur 3 года назад

@@xasharchangel4445 It would have been nice without the wine and cheese, replace them with just fresh goat milk

@dianastamatelatostheochari4430 3 года назад

Best comment ever

@julieb3996 3 года назад

I think it might be doable with yogurt instead of cheese, and chia instead of grains

@c-money9623 3 года назад

You should do a potions miniseries focusing on historical beverages that were considered magical potions.

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

Good idea!

@SEELE-ONE 3 года назад

Oooh! There’s a book written about that by the Borgias!

@Iampatrix 3 года назад

They were basically all just alcohol with a buncha opiates and herbs.

@afterwalker6773 3 года назад

I recommend rosa solis, a potion of everlasting life!

@alligatormonday6365 3 года назад

I would absolutely love to watch this.

@romankozak8728 3 года назад

The descriptions of Pramnian wine which you read make it sound like it was fortified, perhaps even distilled. It would likely have been sweeter. Barley meal, when added to drinks, like in Tibet, would have been cooked, popped in a dry pan before being ground. If you cook it longer it would be almost a pudding. The addition of goat cheese would then be quite good.

@soap9277 7 месяцев назад

Everyone has those memories of being a small child and just mixing random ingredients because you were bored. This recipe automatically makes me think of all the concoctions I created back then.

@Triumph2024. 5 месяцев назад

Did you drink any?

@soap9277 5 месяцев назад

@Triumph2024. Nah, I was always stopped before I could ingest any of my creations

@AlphaDingo990 3 года назад

The man just literally drank a cheeseboard, for culinary science.

@DJDarling 3 года назад

Culinary history my friend *

@justjunkmale 3 года назад

I laughed so hard at this

@angelwhispers2060 3 года назад

@@justjunkmale me too

@heatherstauner1827 3 года назад

It actually sounds like the end of the night results of too much wine and cheese board.🤢

@jackbeach942 3 года назад

It's not culinary science it's a hazing Ritual from an old club that died long ago and just so happened to have its records survive

@Leviathis_Krade 3 года назад

homer's ghost in the distance: "it's just a prank bro"

@milonkill 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@lucianon.carvalho6929 3 года назад

Maaan I laugh my ass out with these comments HHAHAHA

@archonhalcyonvking4315 3 года назад

Homers Big Brain Business Move: How to increase sales for your failing Pramnian winery.

@juannata6415 3 года назад

imagine onions...

@prcervi 3 года назад

that or "I didn't say to not cook the oats with water..."

@alexanderhood8993 2 года назад

My mythology teacher mentioned you and this video in particular when talking about Ancient Greek mythology and talked about how this is like those ancient smoothies and is the ancient equivalent of those drinks you drink instead of getting up from your gaming chairs to grab yourself a complete meals. Basically a meal replacement drink similar to Soylent which my mythology teacher happened to mention Soylent as modern day equivalent of this drinks.

@skatiarhs007 Год назад

your teacher teaching you the same things as every school in this earth,based on research by historians and archeologists the only exception is the schools from turkey albania and skopians-monkeydonians . Uneducated people from these countries commenting in every youtube videos about Greek history trying to steal the Greek history.

@WalkingFarFarAway 10 месяцев назад

Omg that is the ancient greece whey protein

@alexanderhood8993 10 месяцев назад

@WalkingFarFarAway fascinating, isn't it how we still do the same exact thing as what our ancestors did back in days? we just reuse the same exact thing, but in a new way, like same old tricks or items, but in a new way, we simply repeat what our ancestors did, like, for example con artists that offer a brand new car for winners online in order to steal people personal information is the same exact tricks con artists use when offering car to winners in shoppers malls to steal their personal information just reusing the same exact tricks but applying it in new ways likewise we make the sane excuses as our ancestors did when you read up on mythology and their jokes especially jokes teenagers back in dsys make is same exact jokes teenagers make today and that your ancestors most likely did the same exact thing you did back in days for the same exact reason you have for doings those things just with different technologies they have to contend with but doings pretty much everything we're currently doing showing we're no different from our ancestors.

@mechwarrior5727 7 месяцев назад

@@alexanderhood8993yeah I took an ancient literature class a while back and the biggest thing I learned was along the lines of "humans never actually change we do the same shit for the same reasons just in different ways"

@genghiskhan6809 4 месяца назад

@@mechwarrior5727A conversation between Cassidy/McCree and D.va from Overwatch “Cassidy: You know, I used to be alot like you when I was younger. D.va: Uhh, I’m way cooler than you. Cassidy: that’s exactly what I would’ve said! Now you just need the hat and cigar.”

@LeagueOfGaming1000 Год назад

It doesn’t sound overtly bad, you know? It’s kind of like putting a charcuterie board in a blender.

@DanteTorn Год назад

It honestly just sounds like wine with the snacks you'd eat it with.

@lillyv9340 Год назад

@@DanteTorn Yeah, but like it's been chewed by somebody else and spit in your glass? Sorry...

@Zeltron_1804 Год назад

Charcoochie*

@LeagueOfGaming1000 Год назад

@@Zeltron_1804 We love a good shartcoochie board

@RonJohn63 Год назад

It reminds me of Cream of Wheat, but savory and with barley.

@drewrobinson9120 3 года назад

Literally wine fortified protein shake, is what this is. Or rather in modern terms a wine fortified workout recovery shake.

@scouttyra 3 года назад

The perfect thing to share with your "best buddy"/"cousin" when he is sulking in his tent and refusing to fight

@erick8246 3 года назад

and they were roommates ;)

@mikieswart 3 года назад

help me step-spartan i have become stuck under the chariot please step-spartan help me

@Bandajify 3 года назад

although, you might be dead by then.

@dylanchouinard6141 3 года назад

Eric K oh my gosh they were roommates

@CannabisDreams 3 года назад

Well they took his woman that he captured from him

@chasmosaurskickingcretaceo7836 Год назад

The look on Max's face after he took a drink! LOLOLOLOL Love this show, love the history, and love the laughs.

@wrennewman6868 Год назад

"I cannot in good conscience have anybody else make this. " Your expression pretty much sums that up. Wow. That bad!

@ColdNorth0628 3 года назад

KYKEON is basically "hey you want a brunch smoothie to heal your wounds?" Like it is literally just a smoothie of brunch type of stuff

@MM-my8yt 3 года назад

Smoothie with wine & healthy party herbs to help you see visions

@wu1ming9shi 3 года назад

@@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 More like, Kykeon: "NO!" XD

@harktheheral 3 года назад

An ancient Greek bloody mary.

@anodyneghost 3 года назад

I was literally thinking while watching it that some barley cakes with goat cheese and honey, served with a glass of wine was like an ancient brunch alternative to this. This is like the ancient world making Instagram milkshakes or bloody Marys with all the weird nonsense garnishes that make them impossible to consume.

@KraftyKittenz 3 года назад

"It smells like wine..." *makes skeptical face* And that was the extent of the emotional preparation. *dissolves into giggle fit* ("I made chewy cheese wine,") "...It's not good, it's not good."

@Glowstick__juice 2 месяца назад

I made kykeon the other day for my class on Ancient Greece, and it truly is... an experience drinking it. It made my professor cry a little.

@mikerichmond7973 Год назад

Brave man. Very brave man. Thanks for taking one for the tasting team.

@Cypherwraith001 3 года назад

Max, you burst into laughter after drinking it, and I have it on good authority that laughter is the best medicine. That potion was a resounding success

@MarioMastar 2 месяца назад

I was going to say, "one sip and the man's red face wasted! XD" I think THAT may be the real reason the greeks felt "energized" if it makes a man tipsy THAT easily.

@mikebaker2436 3 года назад

"Oh, wow, um... uh... mmm... that is a... thing... I have drunk just now... thanks, Hecamede, for this... potion.... I don't need any more. Look! I already feel much much better!" (Mysterious healing properties of Kykeon solved.)

@plantpants8950 3 года назад

Clever! 😁

@clothar23 3 года назад

Seems like as a likely a story as any.

@bonniepugh4818 2 года назад

Your reaction is absolutely priceless. This is the first time I've seen you make something you didn't like. When you said Greek Pepto Bismol I almost spit my drink across the room. Too funny. Loved it. Thank you for such amazing videos

@karenbarnes3506 Месяц назад

LMAO

@BigboiiTone Год назад

I laughed more in this episode than I had laughed at anything in the last week. Great stuff and I agree that etymology is fun as heck

@beautifulcolors7123 3 года назад

“It tastes like what you’d think it would...which isn’t good.” 🤣🤣🤣

@ViolentAurora 3 года назад

This seems like a "hangover remedy" kind of crazy drink lol

@bumblebee560 3 года назад

It really does, lol!!!

@MtnNerd 3 года назад

Simple carbs and hair of the dog, that might actually work.

@user-ut9ln4vd5m 3 года назад

That's probably the only real "healing" it does... worth a try?

@katevgrady 3 года назад

This is exactly what I thought. Or something you give someone sick/injured enough to be on bed rest

@meilinchan7314 3 года назад

Or an ancient Greek milk shake.

@Strictly_Jake Год назад

I made it using pomegranate juice. I also added dates. Best thing I ever had

@martindang7333 Год назад

thats just desert

@shirleyannconfer9651 Год назад

Hmmm, this sounds like a great way to skip or circumvent the alcohol.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Год назад

Innovative.

@maeve4686 6 месяцев назад

And the Nomads were at their Oasis, eating their dates... What? No wine?

@thatzerogirl Год назад

i wonder what would happen if you made this drink with retsina. Retsina is wine with roots in ancient greece, it's not referring to the variety of grapes, but the way it was stored. Ancient greeks didnt really have wooden barrels to age wine in, so they used ceramic amphora, and to prevent the wine from being ruined or spoiled, they mixed pine resin into the wine before storing it. This basically coated the inside of the amphora with a layer of resin, and that preserved the wine, but it imparted a very heavy spruce flavour into the wine, which is why most outsiders hate it, because it kinda tastes like turpentine. They still make retsina today (albeit in glass bottles) with the historical methods- I imagine that this pramnian wine would have been stored as a retsina, so it would have tasted very heavily like spruce. I imagine that kykeon probably would have tasted like you'd eaten an entire charcuterie board including the plank it was served on, which i imagine might have been more of a vibe. Still not *good* to modern palates, but a vibe.

@tsm688 29 дней назад

the ancient greek jagermeister

@carolynholody9281 28 дней назад

Retsina wine is gross!

@Scum42 3 года назад

The absolute, hands down, best reaction to anything you've made. Even Garum didn't make you squirm like this. I was laughing for several minutes. Thank you, Max 🤣

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

🤣

@JohnLeePettimoreIII 3 года назад

@@TastingHistory I could tell that you were _REALLY_ struggling to get that down and keep it there.

@Ajehy 3 года назад

Your pain is our entertainment.

@skeletrix_ 3 года назад

This was exactly my thought. Even garum wasn't this degree of unpalatable. 😂😂😂

@athelwulfgalland 2 года назад

@@TastingHistory It looked like someone regurgitated in your cup and not lying; I thought you were going to refill it! 🤣

@JohnnyK3886 3 года назад

11:14 - The sad, sad, sound of a man who knows, in this moment, he should have done the grilled flamingo episode

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

🤣

@billhanna2148 3 года назад

Or the screaming Viking 😂😁😉

@M.M.83-U 2 года назад

The old "silverware" for banquets found in tombs include: 1 cheese grater, one or more strainers and some ladles/dippers. I do not think it was intended to be drank whole. Great video, both funny and informative.

@silentsnooper3307 6 месяцев назад

Ha! That immediate look on his face when he dipped the drink spoke volumes instantly.

@AnthonyGamerFan101 3 года назад

Alternative Title: You won't believe this ancient protein shake!

@Nell-r0se 3 года назад

How to get Heroic GAINS??

@sadiemcc9363 3 года назад

HAH that's great

@M3au 3 года назад

or .. "Max takes one for the team"

@Pokemaster-wg9gx 3 года назад

Top magic goddess shares magical secrets gone wrong gone sexual gone pig

@dimiaraujo90 3 года назад

My Grandma (which was a Greek -Albanian lady) used to cook a dessert very similar to this, using a mix of a bunch of cereal meals with wine and milk or yogurt, till the point of a starch, but she would rarely sweetened it with honey, it was usually regular sugar, and even with all the cinnamon and cloves added later, I always hated it. Especially because it doesn't feel like a dessert, and more like the type of porridge or mash, you're obliged to eat when you're feeling sick/ill.

@constantinethecataphract5949 3 года назад

Wait i dont understand is she Albanian but lives in greece or is she greek but lives in Albania

@dimiaraujo90 3 года назад

@@constantinethecataphract5949 She lived in Greece but her dad was Albanian and her mom kinda half-Albanian (in terms of Ethnicity, not nationality)

@nomehuevis 3 года назад

any idea about the name(s) of that wine porridge in Greek or Albanian or another language?

@brontesegard8305 2 года назад

It is SO great that he really waited to taste it on film and showed his honest reaction.

@itisime423 2 года назад

Fun fact: ergot is the fungus from which lsd was originally derived

@patricioaroncastrillonross8372 Год назад

Was?

@i.cs.zamodits Год назад

@@patricioaroncastrillonross8372 Nowdays you synthetise it in a lab instead if extracting it from a fungus.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Год назад

Busy, busy fungi.

@isyeetboi2331 3 года назад

Wine in cheese: tasty, good, delectable Cheese in wine: gross, bad, why

@dlbstl 3 года назад

Wine and cheese, separately, is also tasty.

@Cymricus 3 года назад

I’d prolly like it lol

@icreatedanaccountforthis1852 3 года назад

Ratios

@tonyinbush2191 3 года назад

When you do fondue you melt cheese in wine and according to many it's quite tasty

@letsdomath1750 3 года назад

@@icreatedanaccountforthis1852 Exactly, it's all about the ratios.

@richardkenan2891 3 года назад

Healer - "if you don't heal up quickly, you have to keep drinking this stuff!" Hero - "OK, all better now, thanks!"

@Ajehy 3 года назад

We used to do something similar for kids at the girls’ summer camp I worked at. Most of the time, when a kid felt sick, it was dehydration or they were homesick and faking it... so we had them drink a whole (kid-size) bottle of water. Dehydration? Felt better. Homesickness? “Don’t make me drink any more water!” Still feels awful? Get her to the nurse.

@hannajoceline 3 года назад

@@Ajehy This is why I hate summer camps lol

@64standardtrickyness 3 года назад

Jokes aside I think it's a great idea. Barley porridge mixture aids digestion and the wine makes you forget you're wounded.

@sallycormier1383 3 года назад

Lol, “oh I can taste the cheese in that one!” Lol. How did you manage a second sip of that glop?!! Greek hero indeed sir! 🤣

@michellethong8476 3 года назад

I love that you just TRY things and that you're honest when you don't like it. I wonder if all the heroic stories related to this drink were a way of convincing people to eat/drink this when they were ill.

@MrAreallycoolname 3 года назад

"Hey Homer, think of some repulsing drink" "Why?" "So someone in the future prepares it and thinks it will give him super powers when instead it will just taste like arse" "Haha, good idea, will do!"

@shq_main2853 3 года назад

U got a time machine?

@Crazyjn 3 года назад

Doh 😣😂

@joshjones6072 3 года назад

Haha!

@vincentpribish5103 3 года назад

I read that in Moe's voice.

@07laines07 2 года назад

😂😂

@warandpoetry9542 3 года назад

"Oh Gods I'm in so much pain!" "Here, have this chunky wine, cheese and barley smoothie, that'll fix you!" "You know what, I'm actually, I'm actually okay..." I mean that's my theory.

@Atlazuko 3 года назад

I legit burst out laughing at this. 'I'd rather suffer" indeed.

@wanderingcalamity360 3 года назад

Seems legit.

@tthappyrock368 3 года назад

ROFL!

@THEPELADOMASTER 3 года назад

Maybe they tasted it and it was so gross that the thought of having to drink more just made them heal out of sheer willpower

@hyperion3145 3 года назад

There was a joke in ancient Syracuse similar to this: a king of Syracuse demanded to be given melas zomos (black broth) which was a Spartan soup made out of blood, salt and boiled pig's feet that was supposedly a staple. He drank it, said it was ass, and said "Now I know why the Spartans fight. They would rather die than live a life eating this".

@johnreed3405 Год назад

The look he has after he tastes it is priceless it just says - I shouldn't have made this.

@karenbarnes3506 Месяц назад

LMAO

@JoshJNYC 2 года назад

You are, hands down, the cutest person on the entire internet. The way you delivered "Etymology is fun" made me SCREAM 😂

@BigPuddin Год назад

Why do you type like a teenaged girl?

@z2ei 3 года назад

It's the drink of heroes, because chugging this down *is* a heroic task.

@Slightscribbles 3 года назад

Haha, I was watching with subtitles on and I nearly lost it when you drank it and it came up with "X_X"

@PeachysMom 3 года назад

It’s true! LMAOOO

@greybeardcanadian1036 4 месяца назад

Your reaction to the drink makes this my favourite episode

@chadenright Год назад

Ancient oatmeal with wine and cheese. Your reaction was hilarious, but definitely more of a medicine than a feast. Can definitely see this beverage contracting the eyebrows and the stomach.

@JC-om7nr 3 года назад

I made a smoothie based of this drink. With modern substitutes. Greek yogurt for the cheese. Oatmeal for the barley. Cranberry juice for the wine. And honey. Put in a blender and mixed, it taste good and is good in the morning. 👍

@JohnDoe-wx2oo 3 года назад

Sounds reasonable

@davidlocker5725 3 года назад

Cheater, Cheater, cranberry eater.

@kbrock9146 3 года назад

What a magnificent onion hat.

@cripto130 2 года назад

coming back to this one

@cleanerben9636 2 года назад

sounds nice actually

@sarahgray430 3 года назад

This looks (and presumably tastes) just as appalling as some of the"smoothies" that some people try to tell me are SO healthy and nutritious even though they get most of their calories from sugar. Perhaps "kykeon" was more like a barley soup made with pearl barley, flavored with onion and wine and perhaps a few mushrooms (psychedelic or otherwise) and sprinkled with cheese?

@LukyRemington 3 года назад

I like this explanation.

@millenial90 3 года назад

A barley, mushroom, onion and wine soup sounds delicious, especially with a little beef. But this... not so much lol.

@nicolelawless2070 3 года назад

Yes! May I have some mushrooms, etc. with my wine soup? Cheese on top!

@leonamay8776 3 года назад

My smoothies are delicious, contain no additional sugar and hardly any fruit. (but heaps of vegetables....)

@SergePavlovsky 3 года назад

apple gets most of its calories from sugar. are you trying to imply that apple is unhealthy?

@MetalMarianne 2 года назад

Have you been told about "ulpo", with Spanish roots? It's red wine, sugar and roasted flour stirred together without cooking. It was an invigoring drink/soup for agriculture workers, common in Southern Chile, right above Patagonia, until the 80's in rural zones. It tastes yummy if you are familiar to it since you are a child.

@giraffesinc.2193 2 года назад

Max, you are absolutely amazing (and heroic) for making this ... yeah.

@jacobmoss2689 3 года назад

Me while seeing the thumbnail: "oh look a fun summery fruity drink to try" After the video: "oh nononono"

@starspeculation 3 года назад

Expectation: raspberries with honey and yogurt. Fun and full of nutrients. Reality: There is honey, but it's mostly bitter wine mixed with goat cheese and barley. Basically a medicinal protein shake.

@b0leg23 3 года назад

@@starspeculation thank god he didn't add the fucking onion

@jennahumphrey7973 3 года назад

Same! I thought it was a strawberry smoothie

@Southernbelle2978 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@prcervi 3 года назад

other people did comment with similar old recipes that actually do work well(still more a "was feeling under the weather" recipes), but the main thing it boils down to is "cook oats with water and a splash of wine"

@megkendev 3 года назад

the desperation in his voice when he says “i don’t know” after theorizing about the cheese and barley texture 😂

@stargirl7646 3 года назад

I noticed that too 😂😂😂

@jmak199525 2 года назад

First time i watch your videos. I am completely fascinated with the ammount of sources and the way you present them. Excellent work.

@ntvans Год назад

You are amazing! Such incredible reserearch and so well referenced! I never thought I would actually learn smth new about Greek history from a YT channel! My thoughts in contributing to the recreation of this recipe would be 1. Use a wine with very high alcohol percentage as the island of Ikaria is still known for a local variety of white wine with the insane 15% alcohol content that can get you drunk after two cups. Probably all wine in ancient Greece was too strong by todays standards and thats why they diluted it with as much as 3 parts of water to one of wine.I guess red could reach as much as 20% alcohol back then! So a fortified red wine could do today 2. Use a type of goat cheese called anthotyron (flower of cheese) which is very creamy and soft with yoghurty like texture, unsalted and not matured. 3. Powedered toasted barley or oats like the ones used for breakfast Thanks again and keep up the great work!

@debbielb2325 3 года назад

I love watching "Tasting History", but I've never laughed so hard as I did with this one! Ohhh the yuck face was priceless!

@rebeccashuford348 3 года назад

yes, I also enjoyed the little eyebrow raise right before the sip.

@letsdomath1750 3 года назад

Yes, he earned a new subscriber for it.

@trickvro 3 года назад

Max in most other videos: "Oh... Oh! Well this is delightful!" Max in this video: "Ummmmm..."

@danjirinnn 3 года назад

-nervous laughter-

@myhriahyoung6235 2 года назад

Your reaction was the best!! We have been using your videos as we walk through history as our guide to cooking, and my kiddos and I were cracking up on your verdict 😂😂 I think we’ll pass on this one 😂😂

@canalfavoritos 2 года назад

Boy have I had fun watching your reaction 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the demo. I always wondered what it would look like ever since I read the Iliad. Great channel by the way!!

@MementoMorituri 3 года назад

"Not quite food, not quite drink..." Sounds like an ancient Greek yogurt smoothie.

@dylanstandingalone 3 года назад

I bet it would've had a decent protein content!

@savantianprince 3 года назад

Yes indeed

@cj-seejay-cj-seejay 3 года назад

Honestly, if you replace the cheese with greek yogurt and blend it really well, I'm sure it's fine.

@ernstschmidt4725 3 года назад

except it's alcoholic, and salty

@DraculaCronqvist 3 года назад

If only it would taste like it as well.

@dislikebutton9571 3 года назад

YOU CAN'T HANDLE MY STRONGEST POTION!

@southernfriedmedia3968 3 года назад

in a perfect world, kykeon like this would not exist.....but this is not a perfect world

@LeGuyIncognito 3 года назад

You're a rascal with no respect for knights!

@mikieswart 3 года назад

MY STRONGEST POTIONS WILL KILL A DRAGON LET ALONE A MAN

@HyTricksyy 3 года назад

Good meme, top KEKeon

@alanacastillo90 3 года назад

BUT POTION SELLER!

@chef1arjunaidi 2 года назад

I enjoy your show; there's always something to learn. Food and history, a nice combination

@newhorizonslifecoachcheers 3 года назад

This is my first time coming across your channel and I really like it.I like that you combine recipes and history together. What a fine concept! I'm learning a lot about history. LOL it will be great if history in schools was taught this way. The students will pay attention.

@MsSarahJosephine 3 года назад

What I'm seeing is that the ancient greeks attempted to invent alcoholic cheescake shake and with nothing before it to compare to this was the greatest alcoholic cheesecake shake created, thus seeing no reason to try and improve it. ...That or Homer just wanted to prank unsuspecting RU-vidrs several millenia later. You're a hero to us Tasting History. Thanks for braving Homer's terrible recipes so that we don't have to.

@kaity2775 3 года назад

Annistar haven’t you ever been like “hmm I know I hated that when I was little but maybe it tastes good now actually? Oh no no oh gods it does NOT taste good”

@marsoz_ 3 года назад

last time I was this early the Minoans were still relevant

@zeckenmeister6928 3 года назад

MarsOz I will eat your bull. Be careful my friend

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

Winning comment

@banditmc12 3 года назад

Still would want that, especially those female dresses of theirs

@shinuizabusa2180 3 года назад

Drink it or hide in that labyrinth.

@jaehaspels9607 3 года назад

This kind of reminds me of times when Grandma would serve you something and say, "Eat it. It's good for you." I always experienced some trepidation but I learned to gag down anything if I have to. The kykeon does sound like a potion.

@oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo 3 года назад

This is one of the best channels in YT. Amazing work!!!! I was curious about this one reading the Iliad and now I know!!!

@JessCLoreto 3 года назад

"All but Odysseus, who had really great plot armor..." had me cracking up 😄

@thiccnicc6848 3 года назад

“It tastes like what you think it would...” What a polite way to say it’s disgusting

@nevisstkitts8264 Год назад

Now you know why a side of raw onion makes it better. That or a side of potent psychotropics... IMO: pre-cook, strain and dry the barley grind in mortar (qtr cup max), more wine, darker and lots of body, grated hard cheese (kefalotyri), mix wine with equal part of tea made with mint, lemon verbena and saffron.

@agenaw2877 Год назад

The expression on your face and your response when you tasted it had me laughing so hard. You are braver than I am

@jaegerkrantzgaming5733 3 года назад

"Contracts the eyebrows and stomach" sounds like a wine that is about as sour as lemons, i read somewhere that a cup of hot water with lemon juice and honey mixed into it makes for a good natural remedy for various things, maybe this Kykeon is something along the lines of that except with some extra ingredients and made into a semi thick substance.

@dreamsscream 3 года назад

The hot lemon water with honey is awesome for sore throats. It of course has other uses but this is the most noticeable and is recommended by several choir teachers/private vocal tutors.

@virtualtrips1239 3 года назад

i want to try that wine, sounds amazing. i love sour drinks

@iivarimokelainen 3 года назад

Maybe it was wine+water+honey used as a dip for barley bread and cheese.

@leonamay8776 3 года назад

@@iivarimokelainen that actually sounds rather nice. Flour soup with heated cheese is a traditional winter/pre lent soup where I live. Cheese is sprinkled on top and it can be made with broth, white or red wine. It's actually really nice.

@cactusc9519 3 года назад

yea tbh this whole thing sounds more medicinal than anything

@griffithposgay792 3 года назад

He’s a chef, historian, and a gamer. A perfect being

@jgant6841 5 месяцев назад

Best episode yet sir, thank you!

@gabrielsanandres537 2 года назад

...I can already here Circe running in my direction with a cauldron full of this stuff. I'm an FGO player

@18chris0089 3 года назад

I mean, looking at it from a health perspective, if someone was in poor health for whatever reason, blending these ingredients would give you a good blend of potential remedies for a variety of ailments all in one, kind of like a cover-all-your-bases and cure-all. Honey is naturally antibiotic, I would assume ancient honey was not pasteurized (or heated) as most is today, retaining the health benefits. Ancient goat cheese would have had probiotic and bacterial cultures that would help with gastrointestinal problems. The wine would have a variety of benefits as well with antioxidants, polyphenols, etc. Barley could have been used as a binder and to help provide sustenance and energy. This may have been more of a medicinal drink with a variety of ingredients included depending on medicinal ingredients used by region and time period.

@opalaa5874 3 года назад

They pasteurize honey? good lord glad I don't live in the w*st

@leviosssa5843 3 года назад

I dont think lots of those compounds and probiotics would have survived the alcohol and vinegar levels of ancient (or modern) Greek wine

@bored1930 3 года назад

@@leviosssa5843 100% correct

@lactofermentation 3 года назад

All those ingredients were heated together though.

@prcervi 3 года назад

dilute the wine into the oats typical cooking water and this probably palatable

@catperson8695 3 года назад

Plot Twist: Machamp drank this drink that's why he is buff.

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

Exactly!

@gallowpole9455 3 года назад

The ancient greek in the Pokemon world used Liechi berry wine.

@FigureOnAStick 3 года назад

It's the same color as Machamp, so this checks out

@fernbrisot325 3 года назад

Or is this what Machoke drinks to actually gain his/her/their superpowers?

@middleearthlover 2 года назад

I have to pop over every once in awhile to watch your award winning reaction. Thank you, Max, for making me chortle on more than one not so great days. LOL

@lenac7352 4 месяца назад

You are an absolute treasure! I’m so happy one of your episodes came across my feed! I’ve been watching other episodes but so far this is the absolute best funniest tasting reaction I’ve seen yet! 🎉🎉🎉🎉😂

@raynmanshorts9275 3 года назад

"There are no recipes." "There _is_ a list of ingredients." When dealing with historical recipes, isn't that what you have to deal with 99% of the time anyway?

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

It’s so true! And we are lucky to have that.

@saudade7842 3 года назад

That's a big issue with historical cooking. I've always interpreted kykeon as a barley porridge flavored with a little wine and sweetened with honey with a little cheese sprinkled on top but when it comes down to it no one could ever know what it was unless we found some ancient recipe.

@minamur 3 года назад

@@saudade7842 if it's aweful it probably wasn't the recipe they used.

@saudade7842 3 года назад

@@minamur People from different regions and time periods oftentimes enjoyed food and drink that people from other areas/cultures/time periods might see as revolting.

@sizzis2045 3 года назад

Even if cookbooks survived, the worst part about pre-modern recipes inside (Roman recipe books and Medieval cookbooks are just as guilty of this) is that most don't even give an indication about the proportions between the ingredients either, not just what order they must be put in, when even a little change is enough to change the taste and texture of the food significantly.

@theidiotzonexo 3 года назад

this recipe feels like when young girls make "potions" by just mixing stuff in a bucket

@gluttonousgoddess 3 года назад

Kinda sounds like how kids with alcoholic parents sometimes mix random innocent stuff like Coke and tomato sauce with their parent's alcohol to be like them.

@PeachysMom 3 года назад

Omg I forgot how my daughters made “potions!” Blast from the past! Ketchup, water, apple juice and chocolate sprinkles lol

@anesiaandrews214 3 года назад

Growing up I made so many potions😂😭

@lauriepenner350 3 года назад

Mine always had mud in them.

@jwoz8517 3 года назад

@@anesiaandrews214 I use to go into the woods with my best friend from childhood with a pot and spoons and we would take leaves and berries and shit and mix it all together. Those were good times I swear, not a care in the world

@jeremyday9056 Год назад

That was by far the best tasting segment on the channel.

@jessicamaldonado5683 2 года назад

Your channel is streamed 24/7 at my place right now and this is one of my favorite reactions of yours to trying food. You were so gentle in your review of something I can only describe as a bad joke from the ancients lol

@dizzym9554 3 года назад

"Today, I'm going to create ambrosia" *ascends to godhead, abandons youtube channel*

@communismwithgiggles2515 3 года назад

So he died

@pavelskrylnikov9658 3 года назад

[SwItChEs To TiKtOk]

@jangunnarrooth 3 года назад

I absolutely loved the taste test. Back when I was in my teens many decades ago and already a very enthusiastic cook, there was this program on PBS called "Cooking Cheap" where two guys would cook extremely inexpensive recipes sent in by viewers. At the end, they'd each taste the results. And every now and then the reaction would be "Oh my God that's awful. Don't cook this folks!" That really inspired me throughout my life to be unafraid of trying crazy things in my cooking. Sure there will be spectacular failures, but also wonderful discoveries.

@Devin_10k 3 месяца назад

Discovered your channel like 2 months ago! I listen to it every day at work! I love cuisine and cooking as well! 😊

@helpyourcattodrive 2 года назад

This is the coolest channel … can’t get enough. Amazing.

@alexandrabarnes8320 3 года назад

I’d love to see an episode where he cooks some of the “survival foods” from the siege of Leningrad- such as leather soup and sawdust bread. It’s not pretty history, but it’s certainly interesting!

@TastingHistory 3 года назад

I’ll put that on the list... a little ways down the list 🤣

@augustintacquet488 3 года назад

Did they actually eat that ?

@SH-rs6ow 3 года назад

@@augustintacquet488 Yes Augustin, it was a pretty desperate situation there

@thechameleon2636 3 года назад

S H 😂

@augustintacquet488 3 года назад

@@SH-rs6ow It sounds like something dangerous to eat, perhaps even more dangerous than not eating. Desperate situation indeed...

@zetanax1041 3 года назад

it might be better with some drugs, and an onion on the side

@Dr.ZoidbergPhD 3 года назад

GOTTA have that onion

@mayakaskinen888 3 года назад

My gods, yes

@jeffrusnack5673 3 года назад

Lil side of wormwood and valerian, but those dudes ended as bacon🙄

@angufuck 3 года назад

I think he should really try it with an onion, im sure that would make it better

@user-rn3tn5rf4u 3 года назад

Opium

@denarisnoctem4562 Год назад

I love your honesty!

@douglaswhite1624 Год назад

I love all the assassins creed references that show up in your videos - great channel!

@jefflemaster2850 3 года назад

That drink is a classic example of “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger “

@irimac1806 3 года назад

Or makes you trhow up XD

@leademi1387 3 года назад

This is probably the nicest “I hate it” next to emmyeatsjapan.

@hardwirecars 3 года назад

na bro go check out star trek data and his emotion chip takes a big drink of something face contorts i dont know what i feel... geinan chimes in you hate it? data: yes I HATE this it is revolting,... geinan chimes back in another? data:yes please!