@@itsoutnow honestly, say fuck you to my old self, and thank you cfs for fixing me up, it’s legit a wake up call. LOOK AFTER YOUR SELF . FUCK WHAT ITHER PEOPLE THIBK IF YOU.
Thank you so much Kyle and Raelan! I’m working on a Long Covid recovery and have had similar experiences to Kyle. It’s been many months and ups and downs for me but, like Kyle, I know I’m going to come out on the other side a better person for having made my way through it. Thank you both again so much. I have been watching other videos by both of you and by Miguel of CFS recovery and you’ve all helped me so much. God is also helping/healing me. Many blessings to you all ❤
I really resonate with the point about resisting, after a year with long covid, I'm now at the point where I'm tuned into my body and can really feel the resistance in it. I will also try welcoming and embracing it and being more comfortable with the uncomfortable. I think I was there a few months ago, but then I made progress and forgot - and now that my symptoms have flared up again, stress and fear kick back in, with the feeling of going backwards. It's not a linear journey and I'm working on letting go of all unhelpful beliefs. I'm learning so many things on this journey, that will make me better off going forwards - so I'm also very grateful 🙏🏽 Thank you very much Kyle and Raelan! ✨
I'm in early remission from CFS/ME right now, and it doesn't seem like it at the time, but the fear + stress response is definitely playing a significant role. Everything in CFS/ME feels exaggerated, like all of the symptoms are magnified x1000, including the stress response!
This is an inspiring and empowering conversation, but I think it could be confusing for many people who remain stuck in illness. Here's how I think about it more from a mechanistic or physiological view, in case that helps others. The nervous system and the immune system are deeply inter-connected. Much of LC is caused by excessive on-going systemic inflammation which is mediated by the immune system. If you calm the nervous system (using all the strategies Kyle used in this YT), you also calm the immune system which in turn quietens the inflammation which in turn reduces stress on the body which in turn allows healing to happen and symptoms to abate. It's absolutely NOT all in the head - the symptoms are real and terrible for many of us. BUT it really is the power of mind over matter, because the mind has control over the nervous system, including the autonomic nervous system. Obviously, some unfortunate people have organ damage from Covid, say lung or heart damage and that is something more serious that will usually show up in standard medical tests. But so many of us suffer this ongoing systemic inflammation, and we do have a choice over controlling that, but only if we take action as Kyle did. I'm not saying it's easy. It takes time and perseverance and it's not a linear process. Some days or weeks will be better than others. But overall healing will happen if you let it. Don't rush or push. And try to learn and benefit from the experience, just as Kyle did. I am not a medic but I have lived through it and recovered so I suspect what I have said isn't very far off, and I hope it helps others. Wishing you all the best.
The point where we begin to be grateful for this even during a flare up cause it does make you question what we were,a typical TYPE A people pleasing being too hard on self.resonate to the tee on a lot of levels
Raelan, your video’s always come at a time when I need them. I’ve been questioning myself for awhile now. Thank you Kyle for sharing, that was really powerful. I’m think it’s like you said, evolving all the time. I’m at that point where I’m dropping the sickness identity.
Raelan A great interview! Kyle touched on a place where I am at right now, that whole identity thing, and being afraid of exercise, etc. these interviews are just so helpful!
Great interview. I've been watching your RU-vid channel Kyle. The meditation app you suggested has been quite interesting as it has changed my view on what meditation is. I have found it really useful so far. Thanks for all your hard work guys. I'm getting better gradually over the last 5 months sinse finding Raelans channel. 😁👍🏻
Absolutely amazing interview, this is very similar to my LC journey, thank you some helpful tips Kyle, I’m nearly there and feeling happy with the new calmer me. Thanks again Raelan these recovery stories are so uplifting 🎉❤
@@adamjackson6002 yes I've recovered now, thanks for asking, my tip would be to surrender to what is at this moment, & work on the nervous system. I did lots of yoga nidra, hours every day, you can find it here free on RU-vid and also did a vedic meditation course. I think by watching lots of videos from Raelan you can find what path suits you in this moment. Please let me know how you get on. Hope you find your path 🤞🏼😊
@@nickywellman594 Hey Nicky, thank you so much! That gives me hope for sure. I’m currently doing lots of meditation and yoga too - though not nidra yoga but will check that out now! Glad to hear that you’re doing well now. Thanks again 😀
@@adamjackson6002 Thanks Adam, I can recommend Ally Boothroyd & Kirsten, from the living school of yoga. Yoga Nidra is a powerful guided meditation to calm the nervous system. I know it’s a tough place to be & wishing you all the best on your journey 🧘🙏
@@nickywellman594 Hey Nicky! May I ask you how you organised your sessions? Like for example 1 hour in the morning, 1 hour in the afternoon and night etc?
Lord please teach me nothing today😂. So good. I allways thought. Can I please learn through positiv experiences. I am done learning everything the hard way. But at the same time I was pushing myself to my limits every day😅.
It seems like I go through fazes of relapse or worsening of symptoms for a period of time,and then I begin to recover. Not a complete recovery ,but I'm a little better with each round of this relapse period. I've had LC for a year. I am still suffering, but I have made a lot of progress.i still have to rest a lot but not as much as the first 9 months. My shortness of breath ,and arrhythmia has really calmed.my core seems weak but not as bad as in the first 9 months as well. Brain fog is also much better.
@@JUANROMERO-kb8ng yes ,and they were terrible. They eventually stopped ,but my doctor put me on anti anxiety meds . They worked ,but I no longer need those. I did need them for almost 6 months. My long COVID is much better now,but I'm still dealing with some symptoms.
Thank you both for this, I have connected to much of this and feel it will really help:- sit with the symptoms, accept in order to not illicit the fear response, Symptoms can lead to thought that can lead to stress response- this is so me! Maybe it won’t be now that I have this conscious awareness be willing to be uncomfortable in order to move forward a little at a time. Great interview- this page is sooo helpful ❤❤
I’ll be honest; this one didn’t resonate with me. He seems like a great guy. But it sounds like he went from one extreme of avoiding to something almost sounds like the discredited graded exercise therapy in not listening to flare up symptoms. Maybe it’s just the way it was presented and there’s more nuance to it that I’m missing out on. But from everything I’ve read and watched and experienced, pacing and preventing PEM is key. And anything that disregards symptoms is potentially harmful.
I agree but it totally depends on the person. Some people dont have as much PEM and graded exercise seems to help them recover. Other people become bed bound by it. Raelan (the video creator) herself has another video where she says that in the end working through the sickness with careful excesise helped her. Long Covid is such a complicated mass of unknowns.
I found magic mushrooms let me see just how hard I was on myself as I felt I was getting nowhere with my recovery , I got such a huge wave of stress released.
So inspiring to hear how he was able to use this opportunity to become such an enlightened being and shed his ego. It really is a blessing in disguise looking at it that way, and it seems to be a recurring theme in a lot of recovery stories on here. Like Long Covid and CFS is showing us how our Western, self-centered lifestyle is completely not sustainable and causing us to hit a wall. And unless we learn to let go of our identification with thought, pain, and other sensations, we will stay stuck in this vicious cycle.
First off I want to say I love your channel Raelan and it’s helped me so much. But I have to say I have a lot of problems with the way language is used in this episode. First off, when he says that normal exercise symptoms like soreness could be what we are actually experiencing and we are blowing it out of proportion.. I can’t describe how invalidating that is. I’ve told myself many many times not to be afraid of exercising, and yet the symptoms I get are not even close to normal fatigue. I literally feel my nervous system go haywire and I feel like I want to die for days. It’s really minimizing our struggle and making us sound like people with mental illness to the outside world. Second of all, yes all these strategies do work over time. But whose to say it’s because of fear that causes them in the first place? The strategies like increasing over time could work for numerous reasons aside from reducing fear. We still don’t know what causes this illness and I really don’t think it was fear that brought me here. Fear makes it worse for sure. But I tried months to live a normal life before I even knew what CFS was, before I even had a reason to be scared. When I first started having symptoms of long covid my heart wouldn’t slow down for hours after I took a bike ride. I wasn’t focused on it and I wasn’t scared , even when I meditated it didn’t help. Something happened to my body and my system when I got covid and after 15 months it’s finally getting better. But I really disagree that it was just fear that got me here because even when I was trying to ignore my symptoms in the beginning they got worse.
I had the same reaction. It was not my fear that made me ill. For me it was the overstimulation and a hypersensitiv nervous system. But I loved the interview anyway. I think we have to differantiate between fear and stress respond of the body. Fear is in the mind and the stress respond is in the body. My fear grew over time and it put more stress to my nervouse system. So I agree that dealing with the fear is an important part of recovery. I think it is not easy to find words that are validating our experience and don't diminish it.
I have to agree, I find most of these long Covid videos frustrating to watch to be honest. As someone who was previously healthy four years ago and is now barely able to be comfortable in my body and on a slew of meds to keep me even somewhat comfortable these videos are actually very upsetting. I’ve watched so many of them and nearly every guest basically just relates their recovery to mindset. I do believe that mindset can help you achieve your goals but to have a dedicated video about someone beating a debilitating physical illness then say it’s all because of retraining your thoughts or overcoming “fear” is bs and actually so cruel to the people out there looking for actual help. You sit there and watch the whole video to see how they got out of this miserable place and they just tell you retrain your brain and stop being afraid, wow what a slap in the face.
The comments you both made about weeks before getting sick, you had a self reflection and wasn’t happy with who you were or where you were at in life. The same happened for me. I actually had done a video of myself talking about it! I have said it was divine intervention, bc otherwise without the hard stop of developing long covid I would not have changed. Of course I’m still in the trenches of it one year post covid, but at least I’m back to feeling hopeful that I will recover and it has given me a different perspective on my purpose.
PS. The book {The Power of Now " by Eckhart Tolle is really about what he is talking about and what we are all doing when we heal. He calls it the Ego but you realize he is really talking about the limbic brain!
So impressed with his insight and positive outlook about this opportunity to find himself, his true self, and find inner love. May just maybe that really is what this is all about? It was for me. Amen and God bless this man and all of us! xxoo Ava
Its a process of grieving but its a lesson on disidebtifying from the body mind as we sre all mortal abd have to face this eventually. Having a spiritusl context like ashtanga yoga, VERY gentle physical practice but focusing on the other 7 limbs or advaida vedanta has helped so much.
I have it. Yes some also describe it as blurry vision. It is usually the last to go. Jamesfrom Health Recovery on youtube had it. He recovered from all of it. It is just another symptom. Dont panic about it. Accept it for now.
@@justbecauseican1410 thank you for responding - sorry you’re experiencing it as well - It’s slowly getting better for me but boy is it one nasty feeling!!!
@@networthassoc2006 Interesting. I've spent several thousand hours looking into this and this would be the first time I've heard of such a thing occurring in the non jabbed. When exactly did that begin for you, if I may ask?
Definitely wouldn't recommend forcing it, sorry if it came across that I was implying that. For me it was more about accepting everything, stopping fighting and trying to change my experience and just facing what I needed to, that kind of thing. Definitely more of a surrender and acceptance than forcing :)
Very surprised to hear this kind of logic from someone who had long covid. Exercising promotes circulation of the monocytes carrying the spike protein around the body, that's where the inflammation comes from. And most people with long covid dont get better with just what is described here: slowly ramping up the level activity? And acceptance, meditation etc.. glad it helped you, but it never worked for the vast majority of long covid peeps i read about.
@@life.withkyle Hi Kyle, I liked your interview very much. Was it only what you're describing (surrender, acceptance, meditation, etc) or were there aother things you did? So glad you got to the end of this crazy disease.! :)
I've heard from countless individuals that regret getting the jabs, who stopped getting more. And I've talked to hundreds that have had zero, and not even one regrets their decision. All that I need to know, right there! ☝
@@joeblack7841 Vaxxer cultists like yourself so desperately want (and need) for all that you were so carefully conditioned to believe... and we get that. But quite obviously, it's just not. Cry us a river. Build a bridge. Get over it. 😿
