KZ HBB PR2 Full Review & Comparisons 

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Thanks. DC03Pro is a 5 Star dongle for good reasons

It's no surprise two ibasso dacs on the 5 star list. because ibasso power output is true when measured. even though it's small.

Can you confirm DC03 PRO settings that worked? I found that Bass lower in all filter modes high gain etc giving me impression insufficient power. Truthear SHIO 4.4 is giving me the best frequency response and soundstage. VE Abigail Pro ok.

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Thanks so much Angel!

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​@@donglemadnessplease tell the minimum and recommend mw power for running these iem , i have hiby fc4 and now i do have jcally jm80E but its just 45mw but i purchased this one because this one having adc hd chip also with 24bit/48khz recording and its working well.. please answer 😊

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My pleasure, knowing PR2 sound really well, I will say that I prefer PR2 more with BTR15. KA17 will be a bit more colored but nonetheless crisper sounding (a bit more than BTR15), but BTR15 has more transparent and airy presentation for PR2, while KA17 will emphasize more on crispy edged macro/micro details

Thanks. PEE51 is as powerful as Ovidius B1, so no worries at all there

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Thanks Isaiah. To me PR2 is definitely superior compared to ZEX Pro and CRA in every way that I can think of. Tuning, dynamics, technicalities, resolution and value, PR2 is a clear improvement over both ZEX Pro and CRA

@@donglemadness awesome, thanks again!

Thanks. Yes those high tiered high priced dongled like RU6, FC6 etc are worth the price. You paying a bit more for immaculate tuning and balance of sound, also technically superior too. At the most minimum budget wise, I would say that something like iBasso DC03 Pro or VE Megatron made the cut, both priced well under $60 now

@@donglemadness Perhaps I will go for one of those, and keep checking the prices on the Cayin ,Hiby... Impresed with the Hiby app on your rec . cheers

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As always with new IEMs or headphones, the user will need to attune to it as well. Such is the case with everything that I own. Finding the right tips can make or break the experience too, and just as you mentioned it, foam tips works best for me, I would never use PR2 on anything other than medium bore slow rebound tips

Thanks Isaac. Yes as I mentioned PR2 like any well tuned planars, will always scale better as the power goes up. In this case, from Abigail you should aim for something like $50 Megatron and you will then hear expanded dynamics with openness that offer good sense of soundstage. Cheers

This or D-Fi, can't go wrong with any one of them, both excellent in their own ways

Thanks. I would not know because more drivers not necessarily equal quality, the very best IEM to exist is a single driver. But hopefully I can try Kiwi Ears Quartet and find out how it is

@donglemadness Thanks for your time replying. Which is the best IEM with a single driver you mentioned?

@@Heliumbomb1945 It is not even a single DD, it is a legitimate Electrostatics single driver of Shure KSE1500, practically peerless in every sense of sound superiority. For single DD for me now is Final A5000 and followed by Etymotic ER2XR Micro DD, not forgetting also the illegally cheap Tanchjim ZERO. The only hybrid that I like are Kinera Idun Golden and BQEYZ Winter

Thank you!. If you aske me then DC04Pro gets my vote for sheer power and synergy. You probably can get DC04Pro at $110. Otherwise definitely DC03Pro at under $60. For 4.4mm BAL cable, it would be best to look for high quality OFC cable and I would suggest NICEHCK 16 Core High Purity Copper

Hello I just wanted to ask you if you think the PR1 Pro is worth getting after having the PR2? Am I losing or gaining anything in terms of technicalities and tuning? Should I just save up for a better planar like the Heday, Timeless, Timeless AE? I prefer usually neutral tuning and is okay with both bright and warm neutral

@@roviccastillo9087 PR2 is surprisingly hard to drive. For example I needed to raise the volume to 44 on my RU6 while PR1 ‘only’ needs 38. Strangely even at that volume PR2 sounds muffled. It’s only when I pull out Topping G5 that it starts to sound like it should. I find the PR1 Pro clearer and more balanced overall. But if you want the best from planar, I’ll personally recommend AE (very musical), then P1 Max (smooth smoooooth) and PR1 Pro (balanced).

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You should be good, Q5K are supposed to be high powered

Ditto

I have a k5pro too, and yeah I agree.

PR2 really needs a lot of power. With Fiio K7 4.4mm the sound is great

What about dc03pro?

@@mangodoy1144 DC03Pro is probably the best you can hope to get for under $60

Unfortunately no. I didn't keep a tier list for IEMs. But at the end of this year I will probably sum them all up

Close enough I would say.

Thanks Agung. Fullt potential at minimum? for iPhones? then I can only think of iBasso DC03Pro, And if you want to scale it up on soundstage expecially, DC04Pro then. FiiO KA5 is also another great iPhone/PR2 solution

Please watch my review on AKLIAM PD4, that dongle is more than capable to drive full sized Magnetic planar of Fostex T40RP MK3 and at least 4x harder to drive than PR2, so yes PR2 is peanuts for PD4

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My pleasure Narrendran. You see not all 2VRMS dongles are created equal. For example something like Ovidius B1 despite capped at 2 VRMS, offers 410mW of wattage, while most others are at around 75-120 mW. For example, iBasso DC03Pro is rated at 98mW, yet the output is rich and wholesome. The difference between DC03Pro and B1, when subjected to driving PR2 is that the headroom felt more open on B1 and DC03Pro felt more intimate - so the impression of soundstage is wider on B1. On the other hand, when connected to something like Megatron or DACport HD which is both very high both on mW and VRMS, the headroom gets improved a bit more and the widest from VE DAC Prime+RUNABOUT 2B-FE at over 4VRMS 3000mW. So yes scaling is legit on PR2, it will already sounded good on DC03Pro frankly and I don't feel it lacks in terms of dynamics, just that when you start scaling up the power, PR2 will continue to expand, if that makes any sense lol. Q11 will also have that effect due to over 650mW of power on 4VRMS (4.4mm BAL)

@@donglemadness Alright, I'll put the Q11 in my wishlist and get it as soon as possible

​@@donglemadness I want to disturb you once again. If you could possibly compare PR2 with Moondrop dawn and Q11, I'll be thankful. Because in your review, you didn't like the soundstage of Q11 very much. Though it was for hd650.

@@narenap PR2 sounds open and spacious with Q11, no worries

Three different tunings between those IEMs you mentioned. PR2 is definitely closer to Diffused Field Neutral while EA500 is a bit more boosted in the lower frequency. HEXA on the other hand is more on Harman neutral sort of tuning. I liked all three equally so it is hard to say which one will be better over the others. But if I must choose one between the three, I will grab E500 because it offers swappable nozzles and relatively easier to drive

i hope u are not getting the revision version of PR2.. (which is most likely the case)

@@faisalfirdausiinn4708 whats the difference?

You are looking at VE Megatron or VE Prime DAC, the only two "portable" DAC/Amp that supports MIC and yet great with power. Most MIC enabled dongles are ultra compacts

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Thanks Norberto. As always with me, I simply describe what I hear. In this instance, more power refers to higher mW offered by the likes of CEntrance DACport HD, Megatron, Ovidius B1 and ultimately Prime DAC+RA2BFE exhibited more open and spacious staging. For example B1 is rated just 2VRMS yet it has 410 mW of power at 32 Ohm making it the most powerful 2 VRMS dongle to exist. Many other 2 VRMS dongles hover around 95-240 mW in comparison. So even if you have 2 VRMS KA3, it will not sound like the sort of authority like what 2 VRMS B1 when it comes to feeding highly scalable partners. Power is of course not limited to just loudness, it is the ratio of "torque" applied at the same threshold. So something like Prime DAC at the same volume level is in fact churning out over 3000 mW of sheer power that benefits planars or any other non sensitive partners. I hope I am making some sense here, lol

lots of headroom means more dynamic range and quicker response, even at lower volumes, is the way I see that..

@@Whit-mh9nt I guess that could be true if you're powering the headphones really close to the DACamp limits. When using a dynamic driver the effect is enhanced since impedance isn't uniform across all the frequencies, but in planar drivers impedance tends to be extremely flat, so that is discarded. And (max) dynamic range is already determined in the song itself, which commonly is below 12 dB. In orchestral or jazz music it can be up to 30ish dB. That shouldn't a problem when being far from the real limit of amplification of the device, given that digital signals max are -0dB, that means that anything contained in the signal is less than the maximum peak. That may not be true if external EQ is applied and the gain compensation isn't done

@@norbertoillan2255 let me put it this way. I have about 3.6 Vrms on double ended output and 2.2 on single end. Same volume in double ended output sounds more open, more responsive and bigger soundstage. Response is quicker. Bass is more sharp, due to response speed. I dont compensate gain except 2db in DSD recordings and I don't eq. My assumption is that, for example, in a dr12 recording its fast enough to pump out the full 12db sharpish, mind you its an assumption. Now if I plug into my phone which has 0.8 Vrms, at the same test volume again, it sounds like mud. Same volume in each instance. On the phone its mud. On single end its nice but missing something, on double ended output it suddenly opens up with natural timbre and big soundstage, its a big improvement. This effect is not really so noticable, if at all on my dd's. Less power less volume thats it. So far with the pr2 its really the first time I have noticed this. I can only tell you what I hear and speculate as to the cause. I am not an expert but I am old and have owned a lot of good gear over the decades. My dap uses a voltage controlled rail amp if its helpful.

GoVibe Mini Box as I recall will be amply powered for most partners. PR2 would not be an issue, my point being, PR2 will already sound good with most sources, but it will scale beautifully with superior power. So if you want richer dynamics and more headroom, usually a 2-4 Vrms DAC/Amp will suffice

can they be bought seperately? You mean like from tanchim tanya right?

​@@Whit-mh9ntsure, or any other around 400 grade damper. U need only one of them, but its handy when u already have tanyas for instance. Try also 350 grade damper and choose what suits u better.

@@matusjurcik6974 Ok thanks I will go to my IEM repair guy get him to do it.. cheers!

It is pretty much as universal as I want them to be, but the truth is, I tend to be a bit more forgiving on those with lower price point, and in this case I would clarify that upfront. PR2 is about the most affordable magnetic planar money can buy now and yet it has qualities that defies the price, so if you already liking the sort of sound from Tanchjim ZERO, PR2 would feel at home for your senses

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Thanks Ferns. FC3 will have the power to drive PR. But I must say that FC3 limitations will be the soundstage width with anything that is scalable. natively FC3 is already not so open sounding with most other IEMs, on top of being bright too. But yes it will still have the power to fire up PR2

@@donglemadness thank you for responding, I appreciate it.

My pleasure. as mentioned in the comparisons with PR1, I only have tested both PR1 and PR2 so I have no idea how does it compare against PLA13

@Gavr Because CCA and KZ are sister companies, they often share the same models, just with a slightly different shell and rebrand. Because of this and the time that the pla13 and PR1 were released, I would assume that it’ll have a similar tuning and sound quality of the original PR1 (non-pro). Just speculation though! 👍

Thanks!. This was the early release with black cloth mesh

@@donglemadness I recently bought the PR2, probably I will receive the one without the mesh. Maybe I will try to open and mod it with a cloth mesh of my own. 😬

@@RafaelTosto Or you can play with nozzle filters instead. Safer that way, there's a lot of 4mm filter nozzle you can get in AliExpress and you should look for cloth version, they came in various density

@@donglemadness I will take a look at it, thanks!

Thanks Protik. Yes it does bother me as well hearing words flying around mentioning about how the newer batch is different and potentially having issues. But I would say that let your own ears be the judge, that's what matters the most. And yes, for beginner with fairly easy on the budget, JM6 Pro is one of the most viable option to have for PR2, it has power and synergy to do it properly for PR2.

@@donglemadness Thank you so much, Andy!

Hi bro how is your pr2 and jm06pro doing? Is it ok or should i order more powerful dac like the tanchjim space lite? I ordered my pr2 with jcally ja3t and have similar chip as jm06 pro if not mistaken.

@@kamrankambang7953 Hi, thanks for the query, actually I ordered them from different vendors, yesterday I received the IEM itself but the DAC is yet to arrive in my country, so I can't say much as of now. However, as you mentioned about your DAC Jcally JA3T, despite it having the similar DAC chip as Jcally JM6 Pro, it lacks the extra amplifier chip than JM6 Pro has as an added benefit. So if I'm not mistaken it will underperform in terms of power output than Jcally JM6 Pro. As suggested by Andy and many others I would suggest you to go for something that is at least 2Vrms in terms of output power. Jcally JM6 would be the bare minimum having 1.6 Vrms. And if you are seriously into the hobby there are always better and powerful choices. Now, in my personal experience and the little time I already have had with the IEM itself, I used it with my Laptop's realtek built audio card/dac and my Galaxy S9 Plus. In my opinion the loudness is not an issue at all. At level 80 I can get the sound level I enjoy and cranking it upto 100 makes it louder than I would usually listen to. I think it has excellent possibilities. However I find the bass and mid not so prominent(clean though but not something special, as a normal person I find them lacking something I can't describe since I am less experienced in this hobby, I can be wrong though), I kinda not like the way it present the sub bass/bass. So I am waiting for the JM6 Pro to arrive, I hope extra power would make it the sound better, so I won't conclude about the sound now and suggest you to go for higher power output DAC according to experts suggestions. Once I receive my DAC I would give another update!

@@ProtikC thank you for the response. Will wait for the iem itself first. I was avoiding external dac because of the bulkiness added. But if it need it then i will order later. Thanks

I can only advise based on actual usage scenario. FC4 especially is already very powerful at 4 Vrms and more than enough for PR2, but JM80E may not be enough if you want to scale the PR2 with power (it may still work with adequate loudness)

For EA500, which is already an efficient IEM, I would personally use DC03Pro over Q11. DC03Pro is a bit more colored compared to the neutral Q11, but to me the dynamics handling of DDC03Pro being vibrant and smooth is something that I would enjoy more in this instance, especially if limited to 3.5mm SE

@@donglemadness thanks andy, very helpful answer 👍

DC04Pro has more than enough power to even drive much harder stuffs like HiFiMan HE400SE, Fostex T40RP MK3 full sized 91dB magnetic planars and a 300 Ohm Sennheiser HD650 as noted in my review of DC04Pro, so yes PR2 is peanuts for DC04Pro especially if you run it from the 4.4mm BAL port which offers the highest power output. On a dual port dongles, the 3.5mm SE is always tuned to be weaker by half the actual power, so it is a good idea to use 4.4mm side of it

@@donglemadness yeah I do have the HD650 as well seems to do the job and I don't want to have a dedicated dac/amp just yet for my setup so yeah I'll just try and get a balanced cable maybe

Both will still work to drive PR2, but JM10 will fare better because it operates in 2 Vrms instead of 1 VRMS for AP7. Fot as long as you run USB exclusive mode, then you get full power to the dongles

My comments keep getting deleted, for some reason... Anyway... *EDIT:* It's probably because I was replying to you directly. I've tried messaging three times, but it's only gotten through this time, without the @ tag. Thanks for the insight - the JCALLY JM10 it is - by the way, I'm sorry to hear about the website, it's a wonderful resource, especially for novices such as myself, and I hope that you, your channel, and your efforts, all get the recognition and praise they so deserve. Perhaps you would entertain the thought of using Sheets as a free, alternative way of keeping your compiled dongle rankings alive for everyone to see? Gizaudio has a setup where their videos have a link to Timmy's IEM ranking in the description; they use a link shortener which probably earns them some money per click, as well. If this is something that you would be interested in, I hope that you could look up one of Gizaudio's newer videos, check its description where the aforementioned Sheets link is, and see if it is something that you and your methodology could work with - that way, you could continue your migration to RU-vid, but still retain the overview of your rankings, and then some, without the overhead. Sheets won't be as comprehensive as your website, but "losing" such an easily accessible resource would devastate the community as a whole, especially before many get the chance to see it, as time goes on.

Sounds like you need KZ Castor Harman Bass version, that's what I would recommend

@donglemadness, I don't know how to say you thank you for suggesting unconditionally, kz castor was nowhere in my radar or knowledge. It turned out the way i wanted to start in this field ,, I am using it with jcally JM45. Again thank you ♥️♥️🥰🥰

JM6 Pro

DC04Pro works really well with both PR2 and S12Pro, it is a very versatile dongle that handles and synergize with many type of IEMs

A bit of combo of value vs performance, it is flexi in a sense that I will be less critical on something which is priced reasonably and a bit more scrutiny if the price tag is really high

@@donglemadness ooh i see, thanks for the review btw

Mine has cloth mesh

​@@donglemadness yes ur 1st batch as hbb intended. 2nd batch is way worse than u can imagine. With hi power amp still sound harsh because of removal of tuning mesh cloth.

Unfortunately I have never tried BTR5 so I would not know for sure. But if HD600 works okay, definitely PR2 would be a breeze

Got that exact set up. Sounds fine to me but needs volume up to 70-80percent. Balanced 2.5 is definitely louder maybe by 10percent. How was it for you. Did you get a 2.5 balanced cable for the headphone? I just used a balanced 2.5to3.5 adapter

It is easy for me to choose PR2 over Dioko, more balanced sound from PR2 and I have tested it extensively with Rock/Metal music as well as some Pop music. But worth to note that Dioko offer a bit more of bass versus PR2

@@donglemadness thanks for the response, I really appreciate it, I don't hesitate anymore to choose PR2 :) :)

Thanks. I can only compare with what I have personally tested and use

@@donglemadness which one? Balanced or hifi?

@@koningklootzak7788 I only tested the HiFi PR1

Sweet spot price for dongle to pair with PR2?, it will be iBasso DC03Pro or VE Megatron both can be had for under $60

@@donglemadness how noticable is the difference between those and another cheaper dongle like say Abigail or 7hz 71

@@a3per818 Not so much

@@donglemadness is it better to get a 10 dollar dongle and spend the extra 50 on a better iem? In my original comment the question I meant to ask was if I had say 100 dollars to spend, what iem dac combo would give me the best sound and technicalities if I don't care about anything else? Thanks a lot for answering my queries

No it is not thin sounding definitely otherwise I would have not rated it like what you see in my video with Note Weight & Density. EA500 is a classic dynamic driver and has that classic vibrant dynamics to it. PR2 being a magnetic planar offer faster transients and less vibrant. Either way both are superb for Metal & Electronic music. TE Zero, is an IEM that does not click to my taste so I would not say much about it

Hi Amanda. I can speak for ZVX , PR2 and Tanchjim ZERO as I have tested and owned all of those. But I would not know how ZS10Pro X is. Among all of the ones you mentioned, I personally use Tanchjim ZERO the most because I like it a lot. But really for the type of music you listen to, ZVX can do an excellent job at it and it is relatively efficient to drive. PR2 is great too, but since you said you are still new to all this, perhaps best not to get it because PR2 require power to sound the best. So, go for ZVX is what I would suggest

@@donglemadness Thanks for the helpful advice! 💕

@@donglemadness Sorry to ask again, but what does it mean with power? like I'm actually curious what is "power" to iem, I've read this word on articles or reviews of iem products.

@@amandaboquiren4601 All listening devices makes sound by the power fed to them from the sources. The measurements that you see in mW is power. The higher the power, it works best for power scalable IEMs or headphones. Some IEMs need less power than others

Space is already great with driving power. If you like why change? Space can even drive full sized planars with wholesale sound. At least to my hearing it doesn't sound inadequate

@@donglemadness Thank you for your reply. Just curious because I was looking for a source that can synergize with pr2 or hbb khan. And incidentally here there is no place to audition so I can only blindbuy. Because of that I am looking for dongle references that are quite reliable

Yes it is

Ys SHIO has the power to drive it properly, and use Hi Gain whenever possible with any planars

Volume loudness totally depends on the listener sensitivity to sound. Each of us humans have different tolerance levels. Some need it really loud and some really low, so there's no definite answer to this

Q11 is truthfully neutral and uncolored while Dawn spice it up a bit with dynamic vibrancy, that's how they sound like when used with a relatively transparent IEM like PR2. Both will synergize well with PR2 in their own way, whichever you choose, I doubt you will find them falling short

@@donglemadness I've got one last question on this topic. Why do you need another amplifier while using VE prime? RA 2BFE is costing about 300$. While prime alone is 100$. Is there any issue with volume control as it's too powerful? I don't see a single review for this DAC anywhere in the internet

@@narenap Prime DAC is a pure DAC solution and designed to be optimal at providing AUX Line-Out, so naturally the companion for Prime DAC is Runabout 2BFE. On it's own Prime DAC will not be able to churn out 3000 mW of power, I needed something that powerful because I have IEMs and Headphones that I need to test for scalability purposes, otherwise I would not know how they react to power (or lack of power). Power is not about loudness of volume alone, but rather the "Torque" of sound within the threshold of overall VRMS. So at the same proper listening levels, Prime DAC/R2BFE is pushing the highest possible to allow my headphone like Fostex T40RP MK3 which is designed to be optimally operated in excess of 3000 mW.

Yes it will drive PR2, but UA1 will be a bit on the bright side for the sound itself

I would not know because I haven't tried ZX507. But really, driving for proper listening loudness is not difficult for PR2, the question is, does the source has the right juice to allow PR2 to scale for better sound, synergy element we are talking about here

Thanks. I just bought a balanced 4.4 male to 3.5 female converter and so I will invest a PR2 soon. And I believe the ZX507 balanced output of 200mW should handle the PR2 well. Btw I listen to Tsai Chin a lot. :D Thanks again.

Absolutely iBasso DC03Pro at under $60 now, no contest there. JM6Pro is fairly better compared to JM7 or other 1 Vrms dongles due to the added amp module, but really DC03Pro will offer the best results for something illegally cheap

@@Annabelle_UwU With JM7 you get at around 80% at best of the actual potential

JM10 would be more suitable due to higher output of 2 Vrms. If you can get iBasso DC03Pro for under $60 that would be perfect

@@donglemadness Thank you for your time andy. Seems like dc03pro is my endgame dongle then.

I am not a graph reader so I don't have anything like that. But my preference has always been Diffused Field Neutral of Etymotic ER4SR. I been an Ety user since 2006. And my TOTL reference is Shure KSE1500 which to me is the perfect sound

@@donglemadness thanks 👍 my pref is based on df too but with a little negative tilt & bass boost acc to my needs

I wouldn't be able to do it now as DS1 was given away as #donglemadness lucky draw prize. But I don't expect power issues with DS1 because it can already drive much harder stuffs like HiFiMan HE400SE and Fostex T40RP MK3

@@donglemadness Thanks!

Yes of course, 71 can even drive much harder full sized palanar of HiFiMan HE400SE. JM6Pro offers slightly different tuning as it has a bit more smoothness over the crisper sounding 71. You you need to decide between that factor, otherwise both are quite competent with PR2

So far I have only used this for FPS and TPP of Fallout 76 and Dead Space Remake, I can say that it is holographic with strong imaging to allow me to hear directional sound properly as well as immersive with ambient sound. Haven't tried it on PUBG yet

Should be, if your player has no less than 2 VRMS of power

I wouldn't know as I haven't tried ZAX

I have tested it with Abigail Pro which is CX31993 as well, same power to CX-Pro and I would say it performs better than directly from my phone. But these ultra compact dongles are capped at 1 Vrms and I get probably at 80% of actual potential of sound as compared to the more powerful dongles. But it is definitely still good sounding, just the headroom felt not open sounding enough and also note weight less dense

@@donglemadness thank you for the feedback dongle Zen, very much appreciated. I wanna purchase jm10 pro from jcally which is supposed to be rated at 2vrm at 600ohms, that'll be fine right?

@@joejunior4700 I would still recommend DC03Pro over anything else under $60. But if you must have JM10, then it is still a great dongle too. Ohm is not the factor for PR2 as you can see it barely touch 20 Ohm, it is the sensitivity of 94 dB that you should look at and it has been proven that 2 Vrms works really well with PR2

@@donglemadness Thank you very much for the recommendation.

@@donglemadness Thank you for the additional guide of Ohm vs dB sensitivity.

I never tried BTR5 so I can only guess it should be okay for as long as the power rating is 2 Vrms at least

Yes it is suitable

I never use R3 Sabre Pro so it will be hard for me to tell for sure. But if R3 Pro has more than 2 Vrms of power it is already more than enough

@@donglemadness rated 2.6 maximum 3.3 Vrms. 0.00002 thd + noise good enough to make them dynamic? I appreciate your answer thanks.

@@Whit-mh9nt More than capable definitely

I bought these, they are truly great with the right hi res files.. but if there is something wrong with the recording like noise or anything its a problem.. I really like them a lot, some of the grandeur of real high end audio is definitely there. Thanks for your input. Real happy with them.

@@Whit-mh9nt My pleasure

It depends on how you run it. If running USB exclusive mode, then you may have proper loudness and PR2 would already sound good, but just remember PR2 nature is to scale better with more power, so to achieve that max potential you can consider something like iBasso DC03Pro on High Gain

@@donglemadness I'd like to get something like that but I cant afford them, also they are more expensive than the iems itself and their whole point is them being planar at an affordable price, so I'd rather get something like Heyday and drive it easily instead of PR2 + DC03

PR2 all the way

PR2