Labor Day Special Featuring Howard Zinn & Voices of a People's History of the United States 

Where is he involved? Not in this clip..

@@seansmith3058 he does a reading in this performance. He can be seen in this clip sitting in the row behind the podium.

@@benzell4 Is the whole thing found on RU-vid (or elsewhere)? Would love to see it.

@@paulgibby6932 this production is from 2003 and apparently difficult to find- probably my favorite which also includes Marisa Tomei, Howard’s son and James Earl Jones reading Frederick Douglas. Many other year productions are searchable with also great casts- keep searching!

uh, I doubt (especially in 2024) that's gonna make a difference

Soldiers, like the police, are not workers. They are the protectors of capital.

Why's that ?

Write a history book

@@jjareal23 I am.

@@ttvrevolversmoke9214 With regard to the Philippine American War, Zinn is special pleading but gives the reader just enough to come away from the text with a false impression of the war. It is a polemic. Works penned during the Vietnam War Era had a tendency to focus on the atrocities, using them to make the Vietnam comparison when the wars were more dissimilar than similar. For example he wrote that 70,000 crushed the rebellion. Brian Linn wrote that only 25,000 combat troops fielded on average. Zinn also wrote that dead Filipinos were stacked so high Americans used them as breastworks, but he didn't cite a source for that. He deployed all of the most sensational sources that he could, such as a letter from a soldier that appeared in an anti-imperialist newspaper that was unverified, or Smith's famous order to kill everyone over 10 and turn Samar into a howling wilderness, without verifying if those orders were carried out. That's why it is a polemic. It is not as if he didn't have access to more sophisticated works, he just chose to ignore them. By 1980 there were a number of journals and monographs on academic presses that began to resist the notion that the war was a First Vietnam, or could be typified by isolated acts of torture. The late John Gates brought up the "policies of attraction" that won over a portion of Filipinos to support the Americans, and that the post-war and post-colonial relationship wasn't one that was indicative of abuse. The Philippine-Based Eugenio Lopez foundation published the US Government's official history of the war penned by John R. M. Taylor that was suppressed for 70 years which demonstrated that it was a far more complicated, regionally specific, evolving counterinsurgency making it impossible for any blanket policy to be implemented. Taylor’s works have been the basis for all of the military histories of the war that have been published AFTER Zinn’s sloppy account. Richard Welch and other historians had refuted a lot of the dubious claims about the frequency of atrocities that occurred. Historians in a later historiographical period took many of these counterpoints to task, they just didn't attempt to reintroduce exaggerations about atrocities that occurred that Zinn and others repeated ad nauseam. The later scholarship is simply more credible. We can talk at great length about US atrocities without having to pen bad histories in order to do so. In the end, Zinn wasn't a Philippine Specialist, but it doesn't take one to treat the subject honestly and accurately.

@Rhythmicons o shit, this was way more articulate than I expected from a RU-vid comment. I really really really appreciate you taking the time to write in detail on why it should be taking with a grain of salt.

He wrote that over 100 years ago…it’s not present-day language. 🤦🏽‍♀️

@@samaraisnt ooooooh my bad then. I thought it was written today 🤦‍♂️

Russian Republicanism

Russian Republicanism or Chinese propaganda I wonder...

at pooping the bed. Collective, stream of zeitgeist consciousness poem then said

😂

Chinese propaganda or Russian Republicanism?

Chinese propaganda

Interesting criticism: "endless circles". Maybe a few examples might turn your comment into a scintilating, piercing, enlightening point

Sounds like BS to me.