Ladies of the Lakes, case two: Margaret Hogg 

I don’t understand why people don’t just get divorced

The real mystery to this story is how did he cover such a distance in a 70s alfa without it breaking down or falling apart.

I know this might seem like an odd thing to point out, but as a graphic designer I appreciate your design choices (typeface, etc) in both videos and thumbnails. Most thumbnails on RU-vid are outre garbage. Yours are clean and professional. Well done.

When you think of the odds of finding a body in Britain's lakes, these must be the tip of the iceberg.

Apparently Salisbury has a very interresting Church - in fact, it's so interresting that Russian Intelligence Officers will travel all the way to Salisbury, just to go on a sightseeing....

A disturbingly light sentence for killing a person, tampering with the body, concealing the crime but basically only confessing when caught. Good grief!

I'm impressed with your level of research and citations, great video!

Good to see part 2 of this series. Also, thank you for not forgetting about Veronique at the end, as I would have asked about her otherwise.

A good story well told. There is a clear and precise narration here, told with sympathy and clarity, but without sensationalism. You have some great films here on your channel.

I lived in Penrith at this time and remember this and the Veronic the French student case as many of us volunteered to go out and search for her. The search was concentrated on buildings and close to them at first as it was genuinely believed she had been abducted. I rode out to the lake on my bike on the day body was found in the lake as we believed it was her and wanted to pay our respects, the body was still there as we heard very quickly as we where coordinated search parties but where informed immediately it most definitely not her as it had been in the water too long. Thanks for posting these I've only watched this and the first one which I also remember very well. Peace Charlie 🇬🇧

Thank you for clearing up the second missing woman's case as well. Very respectful. 🙏

Really enjoy your stories. I'm surprised at earlier divers lack of curiosity.

It's interesting how whenever there's a trial about violence against a woman, be it rape or murder, the subject of the trial is always the woman's character. There seems to be a deeply ingrained, subconscious societal belief that violence against women is justifiable if she somehow "deserved" it.

Thinking about how deep lakes are is just an eerie thought, and who knows what is really at the bottom of these behemoths of nature.

No nonsense, straight-forward narration. Good job.

3:40 body comes out of lake with mascara still on, girlfriend wants to know which brand of mascara she was wearing

How the hell does one get only a manslaughter conviction when the crime gets covered up in the aftermath?

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK YOU PUT IN AN THE HOURS OF RESEARCH JUST TO ENTERTAIN US, YOUR CHANNEL HAS NEVER LET ME DOWN, PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! GOD BLESS YOU AN YOURS!

Look at all the cheat shamers but they aren't excusing her murder ...sounds like it ...he could have just left her isn't that what they tell women in abusive relationships? Leave or allow it?

She is dead so can't speak for herself. There's always two sides...we will never hear hers.

Probably the creepiest part of the story is the fact that the divers had been using her body a training tool for years before one of them thought "Hmm.. you know, this rolled up carpet seems kind of suspicious to me..." I would guess that this has lead to a change in procedure in the diving community.

Well, hell. Have you ever attempted removing mascara? And with water no less?! Lol

This production is very well researched and produced. I look forward to exploring your channel for more stories of this caliber.

Thanks for this, I hadn't heard about this before.

Superbly produced documentary! Narrated with dramatic effect, and great case analysis. Thank you for this, Curious.

I remember watching a documentary programme on TV many years ago about the murder of Margaret Hogg, but (until this week) my memory was at fault in thinking that it had been about the case of Gordon Park. Now I realise it must have been the Hogg case, because I remember the detail about the perjury conviction as well. I can't help thinking that if this case happened now, the jury would be very much less likely to accept his defence on the grounds of being "provoked" by his wife. He would probably be convicted of murder. Even a conviction for manslaughter now would result in a much longer sentence.

Thanks for such a well presented, clearly told and well researched story. For some reason I can't help speculating on what a diver might find on the bottom of Lake Michigan, around Chicago, or other lakes in that general area.

Found out today that I do work for one of the main police officers involved in this case. He has told me a bit but didn't want to go into much detail about the case itself. Ill see if I can get him to tell me more over time.

judge pigot and peter hogg, odd coincidence

These two people were messed up...the wife freely cheating on the husband and the husband sticking around to take the abuse. Didn't anyone tell either one of them that they could leave? I mean, if you don't love someone anymore, simply go away and set them free and if someone is disregarding your feelings and disrespecting you, like the wife did, just leave. Everyone deserves to be loved, so if someone ain't loving you, let them go....crazy shit happens when you keep living in shitty situations...just saying...

That was excellent u told the story really well with plenty of detail thankyou look forward to your next 1 👍👍👍💜

I live in lake district wonder how many bodys are in those lakes.

Sir, I applaud your skills at investigating these occurrences from so far in the past. THANK YOU for your efforts & for entertaining us all with countless hours of macabre & historical tales from both sides & indeed within, the vast waters that separate us. BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

I have been I'll with the flu and couldnt sleep. I found your videos and I have to say, your voice and piano playing are very soothing and I was finally able to sleep. Thank you so much for your videos and your content. I am really enjoying your channel

Thanks for another well presented report. I feel that the judgement was too lenient as he had obviously thought out the disposal of the body and carried it through with clarity and lack of compassion that is not the actions of someone acting in an emotional frame of mind.

Very good presentation as always - didn't know about this case, and you've done a stellar job in getting this all together!

I honestly feel sorry for the guy. I know what she did doesnt excuse murder..but jesus she really took cheating to a higher level and rubbed it into his face. Poor guy

curious world your narration and content of your videos is awesome. I'm binging today 🍿

Finally, a human being narrating rather than the awful robot voice. I have lived in the UK for 35 years and I have never heard of these crimes. Love the way you talk and can’t wait for another video

extremely well written, narrated stories. thank you. im a new sub. keep up the good work. keep doing what you do. everything is perfect.

Well researched and nicely narrated. Thank you for your hard work.

There's infidelity then there's strangling someone to death! The judge seemed to be justifying the murder, and it was murder after all. He got a light sentence in my opinion and should have done more time. Yes she was having an affair but did she deserve to die for it? Will we ever know the truth about this woman and the relationship she had with here husband? She's not here to defend herself so we only had his word for what happened. What about the fact that he took his son's mother away?

love the beautiful piano music in the background

Fascinating story, thank you.

Amazing case, amazing RU-vid channel, one of the best if not the best real crime channel that i ever encountered, keep on the good work Curious World :)

Sounds like there was a bit of an old boys club in play with regard to the sentence

Great job on these videos! Your narration style is perfect for the subject and the background music is just right. Murder is an exciting enough topic without making it into a high speed car chase with an over dramatic narrator. Can't wait for more.

I had to laugh that he billed the boyfriend for food eaten at his restaurant and he paid!

I find it disturbing how many people today here in the comments are willing to dismiss her murder simply because she was was unfaithful and flaunted it. Was she a good person? Maybe not; however, that doesn't excuse that her husband still choked her to death which takes a good amount of time. Then created an elaborate methold of disposal as well as a well thought out alibi. No matter what she did this man is clearly a cold blooded murder. The provokation defense is valid, but I don't think it's enough to reduce the charge to manslaughter given the amount of thought he clearly put into this and his demeanor in court.

I really like ur videos. Awesome

Murder 101: Always row out to the center of the lake! Geesh!!

You're opening shot of the moon through the trees is absolutely beautiful! ~ APRIL LIPKE

Wow! Your research is so professional. I am really enjoying your work,

A sad story very well told. Thank you.

I enjoyed this! Thank you for sharing these stories:)

This is the 2nd day i have been binge watching your videos because you reminded me of Obsolete Oddity (RU-vid);at first. Now i think both of you are individually good with your work.

I very much enjoyed the video, thanks so much for making it..

Great presentation. Thank you.

interesting stories, i've heard bits n bobs about them but never much in the way of piecing together the story. you got yourself a new sub keep up the great work

You tell a good story

Love this Chanel thank you for the uploads .

A dangerous time for women. She was a badly behaved woman, therefore she deserved to die, and her murderer gets off lightly. But this was a time when domestic abuse was not dealt with, and women didn't even bother reporting a sexual assault to the police because they knew they would get nowhere. I wonder if the press response today would be very different to what it was then?

Very well researched and presented. In this current climate of the year of the woman, I cannot believe the injustice this poor soul endured, society deeming her to be at fault and therefore it was acceptable for the husband to kill her, labelling this only manslaughter due to his character as a pilot and suffering husband! I’m 5inking that if this whole case was reversed and the woman killed her husband, she would never have seen the light of day again!

I enjoy your narratives very much!

Wow, yeah she seemed like she wasn't very moral and cruel, but for the courts to portray her as rightfully dying at the hands of her husband. Seriously? Wow. Not right.

Excellent work, as usual.

I don't think death is a proper punishment for cheating on your spouse. However, I do believe this was an accident fueled by pent up rage and years of emotional pain, that exploded when she first became violent during the argument. She sounds like she was an arrogant, self-centered woman. It's funny - you often hear of pilots being the ones who cheat. The proper thing to do would have been to contact the police immediately after her death. But I agree with his reason for not doing so - he wanted to be there to raise his children. And if he had turned himself in immediately, who knows? Maybe he would have received a life sentence, and his children would have lost both parents. Considering he was a good man aside from this one horrible indiscretion, I think it all worked out for the best. (Except for the fact that a woman died, of course.) Edit: Thanks for the love, Curious World! Love your channel!

Excellent presentation as usual. Please keep up the good work. Cheers Pat

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Omg I love these. Can’t wait for the next one:)

I have been to Wastwater and although a beautiful place and I love the Lake District it is also a very daunting place. Spooky to drop a body.

great research, thanks for a great video

Really good stuff mate.

Wastwater is a really bleak and desolate place. I wouldn't be surprised if it was found to be the last resting place of scores of people who got there by fair means or foul.

These are well done and keep your interest . 👍

No one deserves to be murdered, even though some come close.

Re Hogg: Where did that dinghy come from? He couldn't possibly have just wandered around the shore looking for a loose dinghy, with oars. Big hole in the tale there.

Great series. Really appreciate the absence of editorializing in your videos. Well done.

Awesome video. Keep up the amazing work. 💯 ✌

How could she cheat on him, she was no beauty but he was handsome. I usually don't t side with the killer but in this case I honestly think she drove him to this breaking point and he just snaps, he's only human.

Really interesting, appreciate your research . Thankyou ☺

What? And they just take his word for his wife's behavior? Sounds one-sided to me. Even if it was true, it was still *cold blooded murder* And the bastard got away with it. The media should also be shot because they always change people's opinions to whatever it is they write. They helped him get away with it.

Really love the piano in the videos. As much as I wanna ask for the title and artist, finding it and listening to it over and over again will lose that beautiful, haunting feeling I get from it. EDIT: Never mind, it's at the end of the video. Still not gonna look it up.

Poor woman had no friends, and was tied to a man she didn't love.

Can't feel bad for her when even her friends say she's horrible. He should have divorced her instead but i can see why he snapped.

Basically this guy Hogg planned this murder. 1. the lover was let to go on, it would later show provocation. 2. The dinghie. 3. the date of the autopsy/arrest: allowed ample time to prepare defence 4. the Judge was lenient, because in the 80s women were generally seen as a threat to men's masculinity, and 5. Hogg was a Lockheed pilot so he probably had the goods on the British Establisment anyway. There's more but never mind. 😎 good doccie though.

Nicely done.

What a poor sense of justice.

Impressive research. Well done.

Peter had never heard of divorce, apparently. If affair was a good excuse for a murder, there wouldn't be many men left alive. But of course, women rarely kill ppl. Men do.

Another very well researched and narrated documentary,although Keswick is pronounced 'Kezzik '

Sad but wonderful video.

Found your channel a couple of days ago. Binge watching over the holidays:) Excellent presentation of cases. Happy New Year 2020 CW!

Great video. Thank you for your great works.

"I almost went in with her.." Ha! Yeah, I'm sure.😒

Very well done video, sad story!

i love wastwater.. i visit regular.. such an eerie place. but lovley.. people should go here and remember these stories and watch the diving clubs in the water.. eerie scenes i can tell you. if you ever go and see a guy parked up on a silver yamaha motorcycle.. his name is duncan.. people say he murdered his wife there too and she is at the bottom of the lake.. he visits rtegular. duncan lives just off the main road at wastwater.. a loner and a bit of a hermit. his wife went missing 4yrs ago

Wow fabulous, great work thankyou

I certainly do NOT agree with murder, however I believe this man had been shamed, humiliated and his masculinity was stripped due to his wife's actions and complete disregard for the man she MARRIED and had children with. He gave her everything trying to make things better and obviously she was just a cold hearted person and her husband was pushed to his limit after all the years of neglect, abuse and humiliation he just snapped. The whole situation was and is sad. Great vid, nicely done.

3+1 years for murder? And due to his exemplary character? This is absurd! Where is was that exemplary character when he executed his sinister plan to kill his wife and obstruct justice??