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Lagom Mini vs. Varia VS3 vs. Comandante C40 Coffee Grinder Comparison 

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Thrilled to bring you an epic showdown in the Option-O Lagom Mini versus Varia VS3 vs Comandante as we compare these three incredible grinders side by side. Shop Grinders: alternativebrewing.com.au/col...
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00:00 Introduction
00:32 Context of Comparisons
01:47 Espresso Tasting Intro
06:53 Espresso Tasting Results
07:46 Filter Tasting Intro
11:48 Filter Tasting Results
13:00 Firsthand Comparison Observations
We're going to put them to the ultimate test with a blind tasting session, evaluating their performance for both espresso and filter brewing methods. It's going to be a caffeine-fueled adventure!
In a recent review video, I had the opportunity to explore the Lagom Mini in-depth (you can find the link here). And as I delved into its features and capabilities, I couldn't resist bringing these two grinders into the mix as well.
First up, we have the Varia VS3, a compact single-dose conical burr grinder that comes in under $650 AUD. With its 30g capacity and impressive low-retention design, it's a contender worth considering. I've equipped the Varia VS3 with the 38mm Hypernova burrs for reference.
And let's not forget about the iconic Comandante Hand Grinder, which has earned a stellar reputation in the coffee world. With its red-clix upgrade, offering enhanced dialling accuracy, it's a force to be reckoned with.
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Комментарии : 71   
@bowieknife
@bowieknife Год назад
Thanks for doing this review! I have the C40 for the longest time... Enjoy it for filter and although capable for espresso, it was too much work for me. So glad I got the VS3 for espresso workflow only!
@ianburton9030
@ianburton9030 Год назад
Great review. Appreciate your honest (and earnest!) struggles in trying to separate the brews. Love your channel, keep it up. As an aside. Have spent a couple of $k with AB over the last 18 months in large part because of your honest reviews.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
wow! thanks so much appreciated! 🫶 glad i can help
@user-vd2wv1rz4l
@user-vd2wv1rz4l 6 месяцев назад
Great review as always. I'm thinking about getting de Varia and I always resort to your channel when I need an in depth review. Thanks a lot for your work! :)
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much ! 🫶
@jslanfranchi
@jslanfranchi Год назад
Thanks for your review, and vids. Love the vibe you put into them. Although I have plenty options, I do have to admit that the c40 is one I always go back to for filter (and espresso on the go).
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
🫶 Totally agree
@benho5736
@benho5736 Год назад
I have the lagom mini (Obsidian burrs) and my work flow involves using the palm of my hand as a makeshift bellow.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
oh nice! Ill have to try that 👌
@amitmargalit4551
@amitmargalit4551 11 месяцев назад
Same here
@Matanzm
@Matanzm Год назад
Beautiful comparison, thank you so much for it
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
My pleasure! 😀
@coreycannon4511
@coreycannon4511 Год назад
Thanks, Josh! I guess I was premature with my ask for a comparison on yesterday’s video. It looks like, to me, the VS3 v2 is going to be my next grinder.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
haha! all good. Made me work extra hard to get it out sooner 🫶 You won't regret it !
@TC_Prof
@TC_Prof Год назад
Love it Josh can’t go wrong Dante and VS3 🎉🎉🎉
@amitmargalit4551
@amitmargalit4551 11 месяцев назад
Nice review! We have to address the build quilts of the Lagom vs Varia… And I personally appreciate the mini’s 0 mess on my bench
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 11 месяцев назад
Totally agree! There is a different feel to the Grinders. The Lagom is much smoother - and is more obviously more compact, and minimalist. The build quality from a UE would be the Lagom having a better build - however the latest varia VS3 gen 2 grinders are very good! I still prefer the Varia VS3, however - my biggest gripe would be the mess :(
@pdinio
@pdinio Год назад
Ah yeah. You made it happen! ❤️ nice work.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Thank you! 😁
@TheJolam80
@TheJolam80 Год назад
Nice work as always Josh 👍 It's obvious you put a lot of time in your videos, especially when you compare burrs or grinders. It's super informative! Well done!✌️ After watching this video, I was curious to know why is the VS3/Hypernova your main grinder for espresso? You have a bunch of other grinders, notably the DF83 and DF64V. Is there something that the Hypernova burrs bring to your cup that the others don't or is it related to workflow or ease of dialing in? Cheers!
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
thanks for the kind words! 😀 & Great question! You're right - I do have pretty much any grinder at my disposable to use daily, including 2 x Eureka Mignons (Manual & SDG) a Niche Zero & Niche Duo, DF64, DF83, and currently playing with the P64 ... and a pick of any hand grinder - but the Varia is that perfect balance of value for me. It is reliable when it comes to brewing - the grind adjustment is super easy to use and dial in an espresso. The workflow is comfortable, albeit occasionally a little messy around the catch cup - no more than a Niche 😂 -- it's very quiet, nicely compact - and the flavour profile just blows my mind away - for how juicy, bright and clean the coffees are - and I could be chasing these exact qualities in a DF64 or DF83 or P64, but I find there's more of a knife edge to the consistency of these grinders - and whilst they may provide the better ultimate shot - the Varia brews a consistently great coffee without too much fuss, and going back to my original point - it's a relatively affordable Grinder - and that value is hard to beat.
@SMspazzle
@SMspazzle Год назад
Really awesome review.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Glad you think so!
@decky1990
@decky1990 Год назад
Thanks for the review! Have loved my Comandante for the longest time, but recently upgraded to a Niche Duo - looking forward to tasting the differences.
@SarntAKluss
@SarntAKluss Год назад
Keep us posted please
@decky1990
@decky1990 Год назад
@@SarntAKluss no problem! Will do 👍🏻
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Good choice!
@coreycannon4511
@coreycannon4511 Год назад
@@SarntAKlussditto
@bluemystic7501
@bluemystic7501 Год назад
I used the Comandante for about 10 months before switching to a flat burr electric grinder for espresso. The only difference I really noticed was that I could perfectly dial-in on the stepless electric grinder and that's where the principal difference was between the two grinders. I'd be surprised if you could tell them apart in a blind test.
@jcsibal
@jcsibal 6 месяцев назад
Great review, like your no-nonsense style a lot. Hoping for a comparison with the Timemore 064s vs Varia 3.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 6 месяцев назад
Noted!
@chriswyatt5303
@chriswyatt5303 Год назад
Does your Varia VS3 shifter the grind setting while grinding? That was a common problem with the first model which I’ve found with mine. There is a new version that just came out and have you heard from Varia if they’ve fixed the shifting and the problem with stalling while grinding for espresso. Great revue as always.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Mine does not no, never had an issue either - but can confirm it was a thing. Yes, the newer version is a better design - improved materials in the motor as well. Thanks so much 😀
@perdiddlepanskew8018
@perdiddlepanskew8018 8 месяцев назад
Got the D3 coming as a Chrissy prez… very excited!
@Buddhanatur3
@Buddhanatur3 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for nice a review! When you say your go to grinder is the Vario vs3, is that with the stock burrs or did you upgrade these? I'm thinking purchasing the grinder with the new Hypernova Ultra Plasma Coated burrs, but not sure if it's worth it. Hope you can answer this. Thanks.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 9 месяцев назад
Both! Yes. I had all the additional burrs - and after tasting the difference with the Hypernova Ultra Burrs - it's a no brainer. Not a huge difference between Supernova coated and default burrs - but the Hypernova are much much better 👌
@jackgtravis
@jackgtravis Год назад
It’s RDT man, every time haha 😂 Another great review 👍🏻
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Indeed it is! 😂 I think I need to make t-shirts up !
@helenburns2186
@helenburns2186 11 месяцев назад
👍🏾😄 I'm pretty sure it's, Ross The Droplet.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 11 месяцев назад
lol 😂 @@helenburns2186
@felixhoklay2377
@felixhoklay2377 Год назад
how about SD40 ?
@SeanGordon-ym4yf
@SeanGordon-ym4yf Год назад
Nice comparison! 3 great grinders for sure. My biggest gripe with the VS3 is the tiny catch cup. If you grind more than maybe 18g at filter settings, you can expect a lot of mess. With an advertised 'hopper capacity' of 30g, you should really get a catch cup to match.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Great point!
@ToddParker
@ToddParker Год назад
Have a lagom mini and love it. Seems to me with the moonshine burrs this grinder is in a sweet spot dealing up a balance in espresso and filter having given comandante a run in filter and Varia a run in espresso for both of your taste tests. For what it is worth, the only thing with workflow I wish was better with lagom mini is the bean chamber holding more than 35g. Some times I want to filter for the family and do a batch of 55g and in that I do two bean pours. How much does the Varia hold?
@argomedoreds
@argomedoreds Год назад
30 gr hopper. Maximum recommended continuous grind time: 60 seconds grind time, +90 seconds rest. According to their website.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
Totally agree. Varia isn't much better - and actually has a smaller catch cup than full capacity - so as @SeanGordon-ym4yf mentioned - at filter grind settings - taking up more space in the cup - it can be a mess over 18-20g doses.
@alarcilam
@alarcilam Год назад
Josh.. my Mignon Manualle broke down and I am thinking on replacing it with a df64, Varias3 or another eureka. It is purely for milk best espresso nothing else and I only like medium, medium to light roast. Any recommendations there? Also.. do you have them in stock at the shop?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
het! I'm sorry to hear about the Eureka! 😥 IMHO, the Varia VS3 or the DF64... these would be my top 2 grinder under $1000 right now. They're spaced apart enough in price I'd say if you're happy to spend the cash - and have the space - the DF64 is the way to go - and it's likely to last a lot longer than the Eureka Mignon Manuale. The Varia VS3, is great - this is what I use at home for Espresso - but hold off on this purchase until we start shipping the Gen2 of the Varia VS3. (which won't be long) and it's every bit bang for you buck ... and in either case you wouldn't be disappointed.
@alarcilam
@alarcilam Год назад
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks mate.. already picked up the Df64 from your warehouse.. grinder looks better in person than in the videos :-)
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
@@alarcilam haha! Unreal, enjoy! and happy brewing 👌
@alarcilam
@alarcilam Год назад
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks Josh.. the grinder is well built and I just checked and happy that burrs are aligned ootb. The only question I have is wether burrs need any seasoning. My first shot ran very well though
@simoncook1778
@simoncook1778 Год назад
Hand grinder for camping like v60 is perfect electric grinder for espresso is the only way in my experience unless you wanted a quick turbo shot while camping then a hand grinder will do it BUT it’ll be hard work cause the burs are so close together it would be like trying to loosen a rusty bolt using a hand grinder to grind the espresso .so don’t drink espresso drink filtered & enjoy a long shot👍great vids man…
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
thanks so much! 😀
@tuandatn
@tuandatn Год назад
Great video! I've noticed in a few videos now that you tend to say "RTD"--I think you might mean RDT for the Ross Droplet Technique :)
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
You are correct 😳 hahaha gonna just say the whole thing out next time 😀
@robs1714
@robs1714 11 месяцев назад
1zpresso k-plus vs. VS3, what do you think? Currently using the varia hand grinder but I suspect there are better grinders that produce better tasting coffee
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 11 месяцев назад
If you've already got a hand grinder and chasing that clarity and sweetness you won't be disappointed in the Varia VS3 🔥
@eatsmokedrink
@eatsmokedrink 8 месяцев назад
I make one or two coffees a day. i eventually want to get a flair 58 I am gravitating towards the VS3 due to its low RPM, time is not an issue fo rme, i don't care bout an extra min to grind shit. good to hear a coffee obsessed with a vs3 go to. i will do both pourover, ap and espresso so want somethign that deals with all that
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 8 месяцев назад
Varia will do that No worries 👌
@eatsmokedrink
@eatsmokedrink 8 месяцев назад
Do you think the vs3 can grind turksih grind on the finest setting?@@AlternativeBrewing
@Mandragara
@Mandragara Год назад
What grinder produces the most espresso 'texture' I wonder
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Год назад
That's a great question! Niche does alright - but there's gotta be a real standout. Would be looking for Good texture, but not unbalanced body -assuming bitterness. I'm on the look out now 👌
@9abe9
@9abe9 Год назад
Maybe kinu?
@papec122
@papec122 5 месяцев назад
Which one is better? Varia VS3 Gen2 or DF64V?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 5 месяцев назад
Review coming 🔥
@papec122
@papec122 5 месяцев назад
@@AlternativeBrewing you could also add the DF64 Gen 2 to the pack as I believe many people try to choose between these 3
@friendlyghostkinda
@friendlyghostkinda Год назад
Varia motor and button lasted a week. Espresso
@wakeawaken430
@wakeawaken430 Год назад
Joshy I would like a review about kingrinder K4 and K6 and a comparison with C40
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