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Laguna Fusion F2 Table Saw Unboxing and Deep Dive Examination 

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Laguna has introduced a new table saw in its Fusion product line; the Fusion F2 Table Saw. Laguna provided a demo unit of this saw for evaluation purposes. This saw has 1.75 HP, integrated upper and lower dust collection, standard mobility kit, cast iron wings and lots of other goodies. Watch here as I unbox the Fusion F2 Table Saw, assemble it, and run a bunch of tests on it.
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Комментарии : 293   
@andyjame5608
@andyjame5608 9 месяцев назад
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice ru-vid.comUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
@christiannorf1680
@christiannorf1680 2 месяца назад
@@ToolMetrix Funny thing I noticed while gathering info on the laguna saws, as they are now available in europe. This is a bot. I have seen this exact comment in literally every video on the fusion saws.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 месяца назад
Wow that is interesting! Thanks for the heads up.
@ozymandias6743
@ozymandias6743 4 года назад
What a review.... Just wow. So in-depth and helpful!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks so much!
@joshweaver8806
@joshweaver8806 4 года назад
Just ordered my f2 today! Can’t wait to get in and get to work. Thanks for the vid, you just reaffirmed my decision to go with this saw!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Awesome, Josh. Enjoy your new saw!
@tomklein6494
@tomklein6494 3 года назад
Thank you for the deep dive into the Fusion table saws. It was your input that helped me decide to upgrade to the F2. I ordered mine this week and it will be a long 2 months to wait for delivery.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Tom, Glad I could help! Let me know what you think when you get it.
@watermain48
@watermain48 4 года назад
Nice introduction to what appears to be a great piece of shop equipment. Thanks.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks, Bill. I appreciate your feedback. Cheers, Paul
@ar15gator
@ar15gator 3 года назад
Awesome review, just watched shop nation’s vid, and to see your video afterwards was great, very informative with real world use techniques. Thank you! I am now a subscriber 👍🏻👏🏻
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks 🙏!
@JJAH28
@JJAH28 Год назад
I'm considering this very saw and your review was fantastic. Thank you. Great job!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Год назад
Thanks for sharing your feedback. Cheers, Paul
@mytrant
@mytrant 3 года назад
Nice review, very informative and yes that fence design caught my eye...well done
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks 🙏!
@jeffsmith4110
@jeffsmith4110 3 года назад
Funny how years ago people blasted the Delta Unifence, and it had a lot of the same functionality. I had one. Loved it. You did a good demo on this saw.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Jeff, thanks. Yeah, the Unifence was definitely misunderstood. When I bought my Unisaw in the 90s I had the option of Biesemeyer or Unifence, and I went Biesemeyer without doing much homework. It wasn't until I used the F2 that I regretted my decision on the Unisaw fence. I appreciate the feedback. Cheers, Paul
@garyknable1155
@garyknable1155 4 года назад
Nice seeing that up close and personal. 2 down 1 to go very nice. Also nice to see below about the lathe.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks Gary!
@aral2dmax
@aral2dmax 3 года назад
Excellent presentation. For those who are concerned about dust, I think there is no saw in the market that can completely rid of dust.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback. 🙏
@DJExcal190
@DJExcal190 4 года назад
I get my F2 in two days. I appreciate your video it certainly was a major factor in my choice of saws! Thanks!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks for your feedback! 🙏
@martinaguilar4270
@martinaguilar4270 4 года назад
Who did you order from? I am seeing alot of sold out from many vendors
@jimfeaster4837
@jimfeaster4837 4 года назад
Built really nice impressive !
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks Jim. I’ve been working out. 😉
@koreywilliams4570
@koreywilliams4570 2 года назад
I was looking at the saw stops untill I ran across a video about the laguna fusion f2. Now im considering one of these bad boys.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
👍
@donaldjones4693
@donaldjones4693 3 года назад
Thought that wasn’t a good great review keep up the good work looking forward to your next one thanks
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks Donald.
@paulwest4888
@paulwest4888 3 года назад
Two thumbs up for an excellent informative video. I have subscribed and rung the bell. Plan on buying the F2 this week. I was surprised you did not mention the built in castors.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks Paul. I’m sorry that I missed the built in castors. I had definitely intended to cover that as it’s an important factor when comparing the F1 and F2. It’s a nice feature. Thanks for subscribing and ringing the bell! Cheers, Paul
@NomadMakes
@NomadMakes 3 года назад
Thank you for a great in depth and informative video. You have a new sub. Cheers.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks Nomad! I appreciate the feedback and the sub. Cheers, Paul
@rigorhead01
@rigorhead01 3 года назад
Wow! Great review!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks, Hollis! I appreciate the comment. Happy new year. Paul
@1averageamerican
@1averageamerican 4 года назад
Ordered an F3 yesterday. Replacing a 16 year old Delta contractor saw. Can't wait to get it.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Great! I’m looking forward to tearing into that one, hopefully next month. I saw one and it looked pretty sweet.
@pf5658
@pf5658 3 года назад
You forgot to mention that it’s one beautiful looking saw too. Wow! I must admit I didn’t know much about this brand or saw until I came across another video about this saw. Price seems pretty darn reasonable too. Thank you.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Great point PF. It’s definitely a beautiful tool. Looks like a BMW.
@glenpaul3606
@glenpaul3606 3 года назад
good review, I would definitely consider this saw if I decide to upgrade. looks like a quality product at a competitive price.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for your feedback, Glen. Cheers, Paul
@rjbathurst566
@rjbathurst566 3 года назад
Great video! Thank you sir
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
My pleasure. Thanks for watching, RJ. Cheers, Paul
@angelopierri3568
@angelopierri3568 3 года назад
Thank you, very nice vid.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for watching, Angelo! Cheers, Paul
@michaelkaye4998
@michaelkaye4998 3 года назад
Nice video. I’ve told the family I want gift cards so I can put them towards this saw. I drool when I saw you cut those short pieces. My last two projects required this and it was a nightmare 🤦‍♂️
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
thanks, Michael. Cheers, Paul
@jimfeaster4837
@jimfeaster4837 4 года назад
Very nice video
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks Jim! 🙏
@michaell7877
@michaell7877 4 года назад
Great vid! I like the saw.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks Michael!
@michaell7877
@michaell7877 4 года назад
You deserve it my friend. Please check out my facebook group. Middle Tennessee Woodworking for fun! Would be glad to have you, and you can put any video doing with woodworking in there. Even advertise anything to do with woodworking or your channel. You don’t have to be from Tn. LOL! God Bless...
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks, Michael. I just applied to the group. Cheers, Paul
@michaell7877
@michaell7877 4 года назад
ToolMetrix Are you coming in under toolmetrix or Paul? I don’t see your request.
@gregghernandez2714
@gregghernandez2714 3 года назад
Just great! Now I have a big decision to make this December. I was going to get the SawStop Job site saw for my garage, but this appears to be a superior saw for the price. Sure the SawStop has the ingenious safety feature, but I am always very careful around all my power tools. Great review, thanks!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for watching, and for sharing your feedback, Gregg. Please let me know which way you end up going, and what the deciding factor was. Cheers, Paul
@gregghernandez2714
@gregghernandez2714 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix I will gladly get back to you on that. There is another woodworker here on RU-vid who just couldn't justify paying trice as much for the SawStop. I am beginning to agree with that point of view. I absolutely love that Fusion 2 fence system!
@errolpereira8292
@errolpereira8292 Год назад
@@gregghernandez2714 did you end up choosing one over the other? If so, I’d love to hear your rationale. I’m looking at the sawstop compact saw or this.
@kennyc388
@kennyc388 Год назад
I did the same . Saw comes in the morning and is the only new saw I have ever owned. Better late than never !
@propatriabellum
@propatriabellum 10 месяцев назад
Sorry I’m a couple years late to the party. I’m looking at the F2, the Harvey Alpha, or a SawStop if I can find a deal. I really don’t want to spend more than $2500, so…. F2 or Harvey? How is the power of the F2? Seemed fine I’m this video, but other reviews have said it’s lacking. Thoughts?
@corey6393
@corey6393 3 года назад
Just bought an F2 last week. Getting it all set up now, and looking into a dust collection system. So far, I really like this saw. A big upgrade from the various contractor and portable saws I have been using over the years. And the price is right for the features included.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Great to hear. Thanks, Corey. Cheers, Paul
@celticwoodworking8706
@celticwoodworking8706 4 года назад
This is the old F1 Fusion, now repacked as the F2. I have had the saw for a year now and it's meets or exceeds all of my expectations. i have been woodworking for over forty years and used many styles of saws. For the money, you can not find any other saw out there with these features. The new features are the Euro style fence and the upper dust collection, that is really needed.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Interesting. Thanks for the perspective. I wasn’t aware of the History on this.
@glenthearling4534
@glenthearling4534 4 года назад
F2 also has caste iron top wings
@AnthonyDelleCave
@AnthonyDelleCave 3 года назад
What a fantastic review. Exactly what I needed to make the final decision to buy. Curious how easy it was to remove the top, then reinstall it and get it all aligned properly. I have a shop in my basement with only access through my house so getting it down a narrow set of stairs (with a turn) will be impossible without a little disassembly first! Anyone experiences would be greatly appreciated.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Anthony, Thanks for your feedback. It's easy to remove and replace the table on the F2. I'd say that you can probably go from the top being removed to it being fully installed and dialed in for square in about 30-40 minutes. I would not have any hesitations in removing the table on the F2. It's trickier on the F1, but no problem on the F2.
@harryshaw3813
@harryshaw3813 4 года назад
Years ago I watched the New Yanke Workshop with Abe Norman during one of the shows he polished his top so I started doing that and not only didi the wood ove faster but it didn't let it rust.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Norm Abram was the best! One of my great inspirations. I’ve tried a lot of different coatings on cast iron surfaces but haven’t found one that is both slick and prevents rust.
@mattheww7280
@mattheww7280 4 года назад
Thanks so much, I have been looking for a review on the new 2020 model. This is my next saw wondering if you tried wiring for 220V? I have a 220V line in my garage from a dryer which I would dedicate for the saw. Also wondering if you assessed the included mobility wheels integrated in the cabinet? Not planning on daily moves, just occasionally.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
The F2 has wheels preinstalled. They work great. I didn’t try wiring for 220. It works fine under heavy load on a 20 amp 110 so I would not bother.
@robertjames-life4768
@robertjames-life4768 4 года назад
Looks great. I’d love to see a Fusion vs Sawstop comparison. I realize the stop is unique to them but the other features compared would be helpful.
@celticwoodworking8706
@celticwoodworking8706 4 года назад
Sawstop will run you about another 1,000 for a saw. Don't get me wrong, I love my Laguna table saw. It's in the best saw for the price out there.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion. I would like to get a SawStop in my shop for a Deep Dive Exam.
@mytrant
@mytrant 3 года назад
I liked this review even tho I own a sawstop pro cabinet saw, I still like to keep up with new tools. I think outside the safety they run a close pair
@adriansteer33
@adriansteer33 3 года назад
Shop Nation just did a review on Sawstop v Laguna Fusion F2
@oliverreedslovechild
@oliverreedslovechild 4 года назад
Looks like a nice tablesaw. It makes a nice change to find a US tool co. selling their large tools like tablesaws etc. into Europe. The Fusion F2 retails here in the UK at the equivalent of $2485.00, which when considering the shipping costs for heavy or large volume frieght, compares pretty well with some good quality UK and European brands. Grizzly & Sawstop won't even consider shipping over here. Now I want one too!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
That's an interesting perspective in the price point. I wasn't aware the Grizzly and Sawstop weren't over there. They are heavily penetrated over here. Really surprising to me. Who are the table saw leaders over there? Also, I wonder if the incorporation of the European style fence system is specifically to gain traction in Europe. After spending some time with one on this saw, I'm really puzzled why this is not the world-wide standard fence design. It's better in many respects, and I really can't think of a downside. I remember seeing this fence style as an option when I bought my Unisaw 20 years ago. If I would have taken the time to understand it better, I would have chosen it over the style that I have.
@celticwoodworking8706
@celticwoodworking8706 4 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Most of the saws in Europe are sliding table design. Not a after thought , but designed as a slider. The major saws are Felder, it's lower price point brand Hammer, and Axminster has there own brand of saws. Felder is $7,000 and Hammer is $5,000 , that's why it's a very smart move for Laguna to enter the European market.
@martinoamello3017
@martinoamello3017 3 года назад
Very appreciative. I'm definitely in the market for a new saw to replace my ancient crapman aluminum top sawdust spitter and finger eater in one. Don't get me wrong. I've been able to earn a living with it, but it's time to say goodbye to my old crapman.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks Martino. Maybe hold a retirement party for your Craftsman saw. 😃
@martinoamello3017
@martinoamello3017 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix I think it's retirement party will just be getting rained on if nobody buys it first..
@jayedelson3789
@jayedelson3789 4 года назад
For those of us who purchased the F2 prior to some of the improvements, I would hope Laguna would make them available in some kind of accessory kit. I purchased my F2 for approxamately the same price as the newer model, without the above table dust collection, which is sorely needed, and the upgraded fence.
@LagunaTools
@LagunaTools 4 года назад
Jay, the add on kit will be available in a couple of months, you can give us a call. Thanks!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Awesome. Thanks!
@dwoodog
@dwoodog 3 года назад
I just bought a similar saw under the Magnum brand. Haven't even set it up yet as I'm also renovating my shop first. My one foreseeable "con" to this saw will be the "knee stop switch" Flimsy plastic is not going to take too many knee jabs to turn it off. Think I'll just use my hand. My saw came with both the 120 volt and 240 volt switches. I'm just gonna use the 240 volt.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Interesting. I've never heard of that brand. I can't even find the manufacturer's web site. I see them sold by a Canadian dealer KMS. Maybe their house brand? Yeah, I think the idea is that you can turn it off with your knee in a panic situation. Hopefully that doesn't happen too many times. :)
@daboat2
@daboat2 2 года назад
Excellent presentation I would like to see video of your technic of truing the saw.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
Thanks. Good suggestion.
@randyp2500
@randyp2500 4 года назад
Thank you for the great videos of the different Laguna Fusion models. So you were running the F2 on a 20 amp circuit, correct? I see Laguna recommends a 25 amp circuit for the F2, but I'd prefer to stick with the 20 amp I already have in place if it won't be problematic.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Yep, I didn’t have any problems with it running on a 20 amp circuit.
@paulbaxter5377
@paulbaxter5377 4 года назад
Thanks for great reviews f both the F1 and F2. I am moving to a basement shop and I am struggling over which saw to purchase because of the logistics of moving it to the basement down stairs. I was leaning toward purchasing an F1 due to the weight. However, I really like the features of the F2 and would prefer it to the F1. You stated that the top of the F2 could be easily removed. Do you have a feel for the relative weights of the top and the cabinet when separated? Do you think removing the top from the F2 and moving it in pieces down the stairs would make it easier or as easy as moving the F1 down them? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Paul, sorry that I missed this previously. Yes, I'd rather take the top off of an F2 than an F1. I don't have a feel for the relative weights of the components when the top is removed, but my hunch is that the two pieces both become pretty manageable for two people when they are separated from one another.
@rickbratto6167
@rickbratto6167 4 года назад
Thank you for the professional review! Very helpful. I just ordered a Laguna Fusion F2 and also ordered a thin kerf riving knife, a dado insert, as well as the insert that is solid so I can make an insert for a particular blade. (I have now 1/8" blades, and the thiner kerf blades.) Is there anything that I should maybe order also from Woodcraft via Laguna? Like any spare parts, etc. that you may think would be a good idea? I would very much trust your opinion here. Thank you again for taking the time to provide such a nice video. I can tell you... it is very helpful to me as a nervous new purchaser! Have a great day! Hello from Detroit!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Rick, thanks for your feedback. I'm glad that you found the video useful. I can't think of any spare parts that you should order, and it sounds like you are getting a nice setup right away. If you don't already have one I'd consider making or buying a crosscut sled or at least a panel cutting sled for your saw. Those are very nice. Best of luck and enjoy your new saw!
@mikeciarimboli8220
@mikeciarimboli8220 3 года назад
On the F1 and F3 videos you tested for decibels and also the amperage under heavy load. Do you have these for the F2. I'm about to pull the trigger on either an F2 or F1 and would like the comparison. I have a 110v 20A dedicated line for the saw.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I ran the F2 on a 110V 20 amp circuit with no problems at all. Amperage draw as shown in the video was 19 amps with that piece of thick oak. Decibel level was just a bit lower than the F1 as I recall but I don’t have the number.
@user-jy8ku2nq7l
@user-jy8ku2nq7l 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review! It was very helpful. I saw in another review that the fence deflects if you push on it at the furthest end about an 1/8". Have you had any issues with that? This would be my only issue to keep me from purchasing this F2. The F3 seems to have a thicker fence and I'm sure it's more stable/rigid but also more expensive. Do they give you an option to buy the F3 fence with the F2 saw?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 7 месяцев назад
I did not have any issues with the fence, but I do not recall doing that specific test. I do not believe that they would upgrade just the fence as the saws are boxed as complete kits from the factory.
@edl1957
@edl1957 4 года назад
I am trying to determine if this saw would fit into a space in my garage while it is not in use. Can you tell me what the width and depth dimensions are without the fence, i.e. table + fence rails but the rip fence itself removed? The Laguna F2 manual specs suggest the overall depth is 39.37 in. Reading further, it would seem that the table depth is 27 in, and the fence rail width is 2.92 (about 3 in). So would the depth be something like 27 + 3 = 30 or perhaps 27 + 3 + 3 = 33? Looks like the overall width is about 67 in. Thanks.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Ed, sorry but the saws are no longer in my shop. I’d suggest calling Laguna or one of their dealers and asking them for this information. Cheers, Paul
@jameseconleyjr7868
@jameseconleyjr7868 4 года назад
Great vid Paul. The unboxings are very informative. Seems you get a lot of saw for the money with the Fusion2. I'm trying to determine if I can get the saw in my basement. Can the wings be removed and re-installed without too much hassle? Or the whole top, as you did?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi James, thanks for the feedback. Yep, it’s easy to remove the wings and the table top on the F2. The wings have some goop holding them on so you have to give each wing a smack after the bolts are removed. Not a big deal. And as long as you have a good straight edge you can easily get the wings installed flush with the main saw top. I actually got the wings installed a bit flatter than the factory when I removed them and reinstalled them.
@jameseconleyjr7868
@jameseconleyjr7868 4 года назад
@@ToolMetrix That's great Paul. I think I'm ready to pull the trigger. Big thanx!
@unclebob8746
@unclebob8746 2 года назад
Liked your review. I was kinda on the fence between the F1 and F2. Makes the extra $600 worth more thought.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your feedback. Cheers
@thediveranger
@thediveranger 2 года назад
Thanks for an amazing review of both the F1 and F2 saws. I very much appreciate the effort you put into making such an educational video. Your information has convinced me to purchase the F2, particularly that you were easily able to remove the cast iron table top. As with so many other hobby woodworkers, the saw has to somehow get downstairs to the basement. Is the tabletop attached to the base with four bolts and is the entire top one piece or is it three pieces (there appears to be two seams separating the top into three pieces). Thanks very much!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
Thanks. I think it's attached to the base on the F2 using 3 bolts if I remember correctly. The manual will show whether it's 3 or 4. The top is 3 pieces, and will be easy to haul downstairs if you take it apart.
@thediveranger
@thediveranger 2 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
@mikeciarimboli8220
@mikeciarimboli8220 3 года назад
Other than the cloth did you use any cleaner to remove the manufacturing grease/oil from the cast table.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Nothing else was really needed to remove it. It came off super easily. But I wiped it down with mineral spirits just to be sure that all the residue was gone.
@michaelkaye4998
@michaelkaye4998 3 года назад
Concerning 220 conversion; is this something I can do later if I can see the need or do I need to specify prior to order?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
You can do it later, but ask Laguna about what you will need.
@hutchabodefarms126
@hutchabodefarms126 3 года назад
What a great review of all 3 versions of the Laguna saw. Trying to decide between F2 and F3. Small 1 car garage hobby shop with dreams of making furniture. In your opinion is the F3 Worth the extra cost?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Randy, Thanks for your feedback. I would never try to talk anyone out of a more powerful saw. That said, the F2 is a great quality tool and I think it's a good choice for a serious hobbyist. It can do anything that the F3 can do, but the F3 can do it faster. I'm guessing that you might have to tune the F2 more than the F3, but since it's such a low vibration saw I don't expect that you'll have to make adjustments very often if you leave it in place. So, the question as to whether it's worth it to you is impossible for me to answer. Hopefully through the videos I've conveyed enough about the differences to help you make a good choice. Either way, enjoy your new saw, and have a blast making furniture!
@SVTll67
@SVTll67 Год назад
Cost to buy Laguna 2 tablesaw
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Год назад
1800 at Rockler now
@g.m.forsythe9626
@g.m.forsythe9626 3 года назад
Suggestion: The crate comes off much more easily from the bottom by simply unscrewing the Phillips Head screws at the bottom and lifting the box off. This is covered on the Laguna website in their video. Unfortunately, persons who do not watch this video will do exactly as you did because the manual is inside the box.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion. It came apart easily and I’d have to disassemble the crate for disposal anyway so for me I don’t know if that would have been better. But if Someone wanted to keep the crate intact that’d be a great approach.
@rkdazet
@rkdazet 3 года назад
Thank you, Paul! Very nice tool review. The F2 seems like it would be a nice cabinet saw, especially for hobbyists in a small home shop who may only have 120V. Nice price too. I couldn't help notice the Delta Unisaw in your shop and remembered watching your review of the Shark Guard on that saw! Also an excellent review! So, it would see that like many modern saws, this F2 will have better dust collection than the Delta? How does this F2 compare to your Unisaw? I'm still using my old Delta Contractor's saw. Probably could have bought the F2 for all the mods I'm made to that contractors saw. Something to consider for others doing upgrades to their old saws (i.e. Shark Guard). BTW, I may be mistaken, but that fence that you call European design, seems like a copy of the old Delta Uni Fence, which had the same features, but was probably more "heavy duty". Before Delta bought out Biesemeyer, the Unifence was what high end Uni Saws came with -- an upgrade to the standard Jet Lock fence. Thanks again, Paul!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Kelly, thanks for watching and for the nice feedback. Yeah, I still use my old Unisaw. It's not as smooth running as today's saws, and I don't like the 3 belt system very much, but other than that I love the saw. Part of the reason that I love it is nostalgic, because it is the same saw that Norm Abram used in the final seasons of New Yankee Workshop. :) The dust collection on my Unisaw is horrible. It's basically a hole in the back of the saw, and nothing more. That said, I removed the 4" port, and I run 6" to the saw with lots of CFM, and the inside of the cabinet stays remarkably clean. But the approach that is used by modern saws such as Laguna, Saw Stop and others, where the duct is extended through the inside of the cabinet to a shroud around the blade, is far superior. It allows you to get good collection with less CFM. That said, if I were to keep an F2 in my shop I would upgrade the 2.5" hose inside the saw and run 4", which would allow much better air movement and keep things cleaner inside the saw. And I would replace the 1.5" hose up top with a 2.5" for the same reason. The out-of-the-box setup is fine, but if you have a large dust collector like mine you want to open things up on the saw to take advantage of it. You're right, the Unifence is also a hi-low fence design, but I don't think they were the first ones. I could be wrong about that concept coming out of Europe, but that has been my impression. When I bought my Unisaw in the 90s I had the option of getting it with either a Biesemeyer or a Unifence, and I didn't do enough homework before making the decision. In retrospect I wish that I had gotten the Unifence, but I like the Biesemeyer fine. And you're right about the sneaky costs of upgrading a table saw, and at some point it makes sense to just upgrade the entire saw. But I really like the older Delta contractor saws. Great build quality, plenty of power, etc. Dust collection is tricky with them but other than that they are really nice. Cheers, Paul
@rkdazet
@rkdazet 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Hi Paul, thanks for your reply! Of course, FWIW, your Delta Unisaw and my old Contractor's saw were made in the USA! :-). I enclosed the back on my Contractor's saw which has helped some with dust extraction. Did you ever try to dust port on the Shark Guard? Dust thrown forward is the biggest problems with my saw. I wonder is the Shark Guard helps with that? I'm kind of curious, I see some resemblance between the Laguna machines and similar Harvey models and wonder if there is a relationship. Do you know? Thanks again!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I haven’t tried that yet with the Shark Guard but I think it would help a lot as long as you have at least a 2.5” hose running to the SG. I don’t know if there’s a relationship between the two companies but I doubt it. More likely they use the same manufacturer in Taiwan. You see that a lot with tools.
@1chemtech
@1chemtech 3 года назад
I am really considering this saw. I have seen some issues with dust collection though. What size dust collector did you use for the test? I have watched your video twice now and really like your detail and presentation. Thanks!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hello and thanks for your question. I used my 5 HP Oneida cyclone in this video. The F2 is set up with dust collection that is optimized to give "pretty good collection" with a SMALL dust collector. It has a 4" inlet, and splits that into a 2.5" going to the blade shroud, 1" going to the body of the saw, and 1.5" going to the blade guard. With a 1.5 HP DC, that gives you some collection in all areas, albeit not perfect in any area. Here's what I would do if I was going to keep this saw in a shop environment. If I only had a 1.5 HP -2 HP DC, I would not use the blade guard collection. I'd seal that off. I'd replace the 2.5" internal hose with a 4" hose (and eliminate the 1" hole going into the cabinet) and maximize the collection below the table, and just deal with the minimal amount of dust on top of the table. If I had something larger, 3-5 HP, I would run 6" duct to the back of the saw, reducing to 4" at the main inlet (which I would replace with my own) and running a 4" flexible duct to under-table shroud. From the 6" line I would pull a separate 2.5" branch to the blade guard. This would give you near-perfect dust collection above and below the table. You could even go 4" to the blade board, but that can actually provide too much CFM and actually start pulling small cut-off pieces up into the DC system. 2.5" should be about right. Or, you could go 4" and dial in the right air flow using the blast gate.
@1chemtech
@1chemtech 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix I have a garage shop and connect a 2HP dust collector to each tool when I use it. I may have to just see how it works out. Thanks for the great detailed answer. I might need the info.
@billwilliams4453
@billwilliams4453 3 года назад
In the video, it appears the bottom of the saw housing is open to the floor. This would seem to allow dust not picked up from the blade shroud suction to fall to the floor. Is this correct? I and many others use fence jigs. I have a tall fence jig I have used. It can be used for cutting tenons without using a dado blade. It can also be used for cutting angles on the ends of boards to make a ramp for rolling tools in/out of a garage. How can such devices be used with this style fence?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Bill, the bottom of the cabinet is sealed, so if dust manages to sneak past the shroud, it won't land on the floor. On the older Laguna models I believe that the bottom was open. The easiest way to use this style fence with a jig as you are describing would be to remove the sliding portion of the fence. Otherwise, you could design it to form around the entire fence, including the sliding portion, but it would make the design more complex.
@Edward-vs4hz
@Edward-vs4hz 3 года назад
Thinking about upgrading to this saw, but I would probably want to transfer over my Incra TS-LS positioner fence. Anyone have the Incra installed on their Fusion? This saw looks pretty mobile in the video, which is also important for me because I regularly have to move my saw around to have enough room for cutting. Any issues with mobility?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Edward, sorry about the late reply. Mobility is fine, although the wheels aren't super big so you'd want to clear a path before moving it. Some of my tools have larger wheels and I can roll over pretty much anything. Not a major problem, however. I didn't try an Incra on it.
@Ramsdl52
@Ramsdl52 4 года назад
with the euro fence having the wing nuts on the right hand side does that eliminate the possibility of being able to mount a router table on the right side of the table? Also, is there a blade brake? you cut the video every time you turned the saw off.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
The motor has a brake to slow the blade down when it’s switched off but there’s not a blade brake like you’d find on a sawstop. You would have to do something if you mounted a router. Would be easy enough to build a router table fence that slipped over the stock fence.
@sumosprojects
@sumosprojects 3 года назад
Thanks, I chose a Baileigh Industrial over this one as it was cheaper & exactly the same
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
@EugeneBentz
@EugeneBentz 4 года назад
Paul, Thanks. For a new hobiest do you feel the F2 would be a good dependable saw. I remember my father's 40 year old saw that I had to adjust the fence just about every cut. I've seen other reviews where they state that is an issue with this saw. Also, comparable saws for the money? Do they exist?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Eugene, I feel good about the feature set and quality of this saw. I wouldn't expect to have to make adjustments to the fence on a regular basis to maintain accuracy. It didn't vary at all while I had it in my shop, although I didn't have it very long. For a comparable saw, you could look at this one from Jet: amzn.to/2KHSuYj. For a bit more money, this PowerMatic would be worth comparing as well: amzn.to/3bNkiGx.
@JoeLazzara
@JoeLazzara 4 года назад
@@ToolMetrix I'm looking to get this saw. Your review was excellent, but I had a question. How come you don't have the Laguna saw any more?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Joe, Thanks for the feedback on the video. Also, thanks for the question; I get that one a lot. I'm a tool reviewer, which means that I need to have a steady stream of new products coming through my shop for evaluation. If I like them overall, I make a video or two. I wish that I could keep them all, but I have a small shop that is getting crowded. I moved out the F1 and F2 after making those videos to make room for the F3. Now the F3 video is posted and the saw is moved out to make room for a DeWalt table saw, and one other. I haven't decided on the brand of #2 yet; I just know that it will be a portable unit so that I can have a point of comparison. The odds of me keeping either of the new portable saws is slim as well. So, you shouldn't interpret the fact that a tool is no longer in my shop as any form of indication that I don't like it. Cheers, Paul
@armstronga23
@armstronga23 2 года назад
Thanks for putting this review together! I watched it awhile ago and again today as I'm finally going to upgrade my table saw. now that you have had the F2 for awhile are you still liking it? Have you run in to any problems?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
Hi John, I’m a tool reviewer and I look at a lot of tools, and I can’t keep most of them. I only had the F2 in my shop for about a month so I can’t give you any perspective on longevity.
@armstronga23
@armstronga23 2 года назад
@@ToolMetrix no problem thanks for letting me know.
@TboneCO1
@TboneCO1 3 года назад
You mention having a 20amp breaker (mark 10:30); however, Laguna doc states to have a 25amp circuit for F2 at 110v. Any idea how to have a 25amp breaker on a 110v receptacle? I pinged Laguna on it and no response. BTW, the F3 states similar, 25amp breaker requirement for 3hp, which sucks as rules out my 220/20amp outlet in the shop. Laguna did confirm F3 requires 25amp breaker for me, but nada on the 25amp 110v requirement.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi TBone, I ran the F2 without any problem on a 110V 20amp breaker, and I pushed it pretty hard. To have a 25 amp breaker on a 110V circuit you should have 10 guage wire. I'm guessing that less than 1% of F2s are running on 110V/25 amp circuits. Most are likely running on 110V/20amp circuits, and some are probably running on 220V circuits. I ran all of my tests on the F3 using a 220V/20amp circuit, and didn't have any problems there either.
@matthewisaac9670
@matthewisaac9670 3 года назад
thank you ToolMetrix for another great review!... how does the dust collection on this compare to others in this category?...assuming a solid 400+ CFM dust collector as recommended in the manual. Is it just average? or fantastic? Also, for table saws in the $1100 - $2k price range, what other recommendations would you make? And lastly, how does the fence on this guy compare to others in this price range? I plan to make my move but given this is fairly new, I don't want any regrets. Thank you so much in advance!!!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Matthew, thanks for the feedback. On the dust collection front, I think its tricky for a manufacturer to provide a one size fits all solution, because so much of what makes a perfect configuration depends on how much air flow you can deliver. It's unique to include above table collection, and it's neat that they did that, but in order to get decent collection from both above and below the table, you will need a dust collector that is larger than 400 CFM. If I had just a 400 CFM collector, I would remove the above table collection and focus all of the air flow on the below-table collection. If I had 600 CFM, I'd use both upper and lower collection. With 800 CFM I'd expand the internal ducting to 4", all the way from the outside of the cabinet to the blade shroud. And if I had 1000 CFM I'd expand the upper dust collector hose from 1.5" to 2.5" and I believe it would get much better collection. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about the theoretical maximum of the dust collector, I'm talking about the actual air flow at the connection to the tool. In that price range I'd also consider a SawStop contractor saw, or stretch your budget a little bit to a SawStop Professional 1.75 HP. No question that is a more expensive saw, but the safety feature is nice and quality is good. I think the fence on the F2 is a huge winner. Functionality wise there's not a fence on a table saw in this class that I like as well. Quality wise, I'd say that this fence is comparable to the SawStop Professional or the Jet ProShop.
@matthewisaac9670
@matthewisaac9670 3 года назад
ToolMetrix This is exactly why I am such a big fan... informative and very helpful. Thank you! I am costing out a Contractor SawStop with the upgraded fence.... yes a bit more $$... I may go this route and just forego the stellar dust collection for the time being. Thanks again! And good job.
@robertcathcart2560
@robertcathcart2560 4 года назад
Does the blade guard accommodate full-kerf and thin-kerf blades?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
The blade guard is fine but you need to swap out the riving knife for thin kerf blades.
@gpdoyon
@gpdoyon 3 года назад
Sir, first, thank you very much for the well-done review! I only need to know one more bit of detail...is the fence consistently accurate? Having an accurate fence is my #1, #2 and #3 priority before I buy a new table saw. We have Rockler nearby and I can buy this saw from them locally. But, the fence is a make or break deal for me. I am so tired of spending more time adjusting the accuracy of my saw fence. Thank you in advance for taking the time to respond!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Gerry, yes in my testing the fence was dead on at any location and it locked down solidly so it held the accurate position over multiple cuts.
@gpdoyon
@gpdoyon 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix That's great! I'm going to place an order for this saw. Thanks!
@Dan-iy2ww
@Dan-iy2ww 6 месяцев назад
Very much enjoyed your helpful review. I have one concern. Is the 1-¾ hp motor a bit underpowered for 6/4 or 8/4 hardwood? Apologies if this has been asked and answered previously. Thanks.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Dan. It doesn’t feel underpowered for occasional cutting of 8/4, when using a thin kerf blade. If you are cutting a lot of that stuff every day you will want more HP.
@Dan-iy2ww
@Dan-iy2ww 6 месяцев назад
Thank you. Just cutting boards which I only do one at a time. So thick stock ripping only a couple times a month. Buying the F2 after the holidays!
@jimhorner67
@jimhorner67 2 года назад
How does the back of the fence secure and travel along the guide?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
Hi Jim, unfortunately it’s been a couple years and I don’t remember.
@drewfalkenburg6808
@drewfalkenburg6808 3 года назад
What "tweaking" did you do to get the left to right tolerance so low? Mine's pretty bad out of the box.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I removed the wings and filed off the factory goop that was in the joint, and deburred the surfaces. After doing that everything went together nicely and the top was flat.
@johncole9964
@johncole9964 3 года назад
Interesting, the thing that is keeping me from buying this saw is the fence. While it does have some increased functionality over a Beismeyer, it is very difficult to make over the fence jigs and accessories. Until Laguna offers a Beismeyer fence for it I'll be looking for one of the other Manufacturers to put out an equivalent saw with a normal fence.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi John, Yeah, I get your point. If you pulled off the sliding piece and the mounting hardware, you could attach panels to the side and have effectively what you want.
@scottsanders6867
@scottsanders6867 3 года назад
I don't have room for a dust collection system in my shop. Would it be a problem to use this saw without any dust collection and just let it fall into the cabinet below?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
No problem. Just remove the dust hose from the shroud underneath the blade and don’t install the panel at the bottom of the saw cabinet. If you do those things you should be fine.
@TetraCNC
@TetraCNC 4 года назад
Ok you officially suck, I wanted a new table saw when you did the F1 unboxing, now I really want a new table saw. LOL nice job
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
HaHaHa! 😃 thanks Richard.
@barrybortnick7999
@barrybortnick7999 2 года назад
Does the inability to move the fence to the left side limit you? How easy is it to clamp sacrificial boards and jigs to the fence? My current table saw fence has slots in the fence so sliding bolts can be used without clamps, allowing unlimited vertical clearance from the fence for running tall boards.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
You'll want to confirm this but I believe that on the F2 you could use the fence on the left of the blade by removing the screws that fasten the euro fence. It would be a pain to do this if you did it frequently, but if it was a once or twice a year thing, probably no big deal. If it works the way I'm remember, no, it wouldn't bother me because in 25 years of woodworking I have maybe used the fence on the left 1-2 times, and that was back when I had a saw with a right tilt blade. I don't know if I've ever used my current saw that way, and I've owned that since the late 90s. I think the way that I'd probably attach a sacrificial fence would be to drill screw holes through the Euro fence and attach by just running screws through there. Simple and quick. Jigs would be different. I think I would make a tenon jig, for example, to ride on the upright of the Euro fence. If that worked, it would be super easy. And I think it would work fine. I like the design of your current fence. That's a thoughtful design.
@barrybortnick7999
@barrybortnick7999 2 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Thanks for the thoughtful reply; I suppose there will be a way to make a jig fit... Same here, I move the fence to the left side maybe once a year.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 года назад
I want one of these saws, but I would need to hard pipe the upper dust collection instead of the flex hose. What about a different mobile base? Is there something with larger wheels that doesn't require lifting?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Yeah, hard pipe would be better for sure. 2.5” while you’re at it. I haven’t looked at third party mobile bases much but I think you can find one that doesn’t add much height.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Thank you for the quick reply. I have been looking at this saw or the Powermatic PM1000. The only requirement I have is the mobility. I need it to roll around without lifting it, so I'll weld up a mobile base if I have to.
@mekahami
@mekahami 3 года назад
I have this saw and like it but I cannot figure out how to adjust the blade tilt. When I have it fully tilted to 45 degrees it is actually 45.6 degrees. I can’t find anything online about how to adjust this. Do you happen to know??
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Sorry; I’m not sure about that. Might have to give Laguna customer support a call.
@khoabui1984
@khoabui1984 4 года назад
How did you remove the the table saw from the bottom pallet? Can it be done by one man?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
I just removed the bolts and walked it off the pallet. Yep, I did it by myself. No problem at all.
@barrychandler826
@barrychandler826 3 года назад
Can a router be added to F2 on the end with support legs
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I wouldn't see any reason why it couldn't. I would suggest providing some supports underneath the table where the router will be mounted to avoid sagging, but other than that, I think it should be great.
@Githy1378
@Githy1378 3 года назад
hows the Dust collection thinking about this saw. I know this is a older video but i would like to know
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi John, thanks for your question. The F2 is set up with dust collection that is optimized to give "pretty good collection" with a SMALL dust collector. It has a 4" inlet, and splits that into a 2.5" going to the blade shroud, 1" going to the body of the saw, and 1.5" going to the blade guard. With a 1.5 HP DC, that gives you some collection in all areas, albeit not perfect in any area. Here's what I would do if I was going to keep this saw in a shop environment. If I only had a 1.5 HP -2 HP DC, I would not use the blade guard collection. I'd seal that off. I'd replace the 2.5" internal hose with a 4" hose (and eliminate the 1" hole going into the cabinet) and maximize the collection below the table, and just deal with the minimal amount of dust on top of the table. If I had something larger, 3-5 HP, I would run 6" duct to the back of the saw, reducing to 4" at the main inlet (which I would replace with my own) and running a 4" flexible duct to under-table shroud. From the 6" line I would pull a separate 2.5" branch to the blade guard. This would give you near-perfect dust collection above and below the table. You could even go 4" to the blade board, but that can actually provide too much CFM and actually start pulling small cut-off pieces up into the DC system. 2.5" should be about right. Or, you could go 4" and dial in the right air flow using the blast gate. Cheers, Paul
@101411726
@101411726 3 года назад
So.. the fence can’t be adjusted to dial in to a dead 90? Seems like a HUGE oversight on laguna’s part. I currently have a table saw with a fence that isn’t 90 degrees vertically, and cannot be adjusted.. it’s a great paperweight!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks for weighing in on this. Cheers, Paul
@101411726
@101411726 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix I sincerely hope I’m wrong about this. Thanks for the overview of the saw!
@Trytec96
@Trytec96 Год назад
Does the fence actually stay true when setting up for a measurement? My current table saw when I set my fence to say 8 inches, the place closest to the fence handle will be 8 inches from the blade but the far end will be 1/16th of an inch off or so. So I have to constantly measure the front and back of my blade to the fence and keep taping the fence over and over again to make sure I'm perfectly parallel. I'm wanting to upgrade my saw and love the SawStop but the Laguna F2 seems perfect for my needs, with a lower price tag. I just don't want to have another fence with this issue
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Год назад
Yeah, the fence is solid and stayed accurate. It's a standout feature on this saw, IMO. No tapping necessary, just lock and go. Nice motorcycle btw.
@Trytec96
@Trytec96 Год назад
@@ToolMetrix okay well that's a little more reassuring hearing that. Thanks.
@walterplaessmann5865
@walterplaessmann5865 3 года назад
Really informative and helpful, thanks for going in depth. Did you test amp draw on thinner stock, say 3/4 to 1 inch thick using hardwood, softwood and plywood, rip vs. crosscut? Looking to avoid calling the electrician if possible ;)
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Walter, thanks for the feedback. I only tested the amperage draw on a thick piece of oak (approx 2"). Thinner or softer wood should be less stressful on the motor. It hit 19 amps when ripping the thick oak. I did a lot of ripping and cross cutting of all sorts of materials and never blew the 110V 20amp breaker. Nothing else was running on the circuit. So, my experience suggests at a 110/20 amp circuit is fine. That said, not all circuits are created equal, so I hope that I don't lead you astray. But the material that you are describing is a lot less likely to cause problems than the thick oak I was testing with.
@paweg1157
@paweg1157 4 года назад
In EU F3 is something between f2 and f3 - they give you f3 with f2 fence system but its cheaper than US f3
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing that, Powel. That’s interesting. Wonder why? I’m really looking forward to trying the F3 out.
@paweg1157
@paweg1157 4 года назад
ToolMetrix i really don’t get it Why. I would really want to pay more but have the F3US fence And rail. How do You feel about the f2 fence - is it sturdy enough? Is the rail straight? It’s made with aluminum?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
@@paweg1157 I loved the fence on the F2. I haven't had a chance to play with the fence on the F3, but I would say that the F2 fence is better than anything in it's class. The fence frame is made of steel. The removable/flippable side piece is made of aluminum. The one that I had in my shop was perfect flat and straight, as were the aluminum rails. As to whether it is sturdy enough, for my shop and any hobbyist shop, I say yes. I wouldn't have any reservations about the F2 as a primary table saw for my needs. For a multi-user maker space or production shop, I'd say probably so, but it's tough to speculate. Some environments can be very tough on tools and aluminum is aluminum.
@dnetter9322
@dnetter9322 3 года назад
Thank you for this review. One of the things I found was my table is .006" out of alignment with the blade. The instructions don't match the table. Did you find a table alignment bolt anywhere? I can't seem to locate it.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
On this style saw the blade aligned to the miter slot by loosening the bolts that attach the table to the saw cabinet. On the F2 I believe that there are 4 bolts; one in each corner. Loosen three of them completely, and one of them just barely loosen it. Then tap the table into position and tighten everything down. It's a very easy adjustment on the F2. In this video, you can see where the bolt holes are on the portion of the video where I have the top removed.
@hussainyaq
@hussainyaq 4 года назад
Can you use dado insert on this tablesaw ?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Yep. Has an optional dado insert and supports up to a 3/4” dado.
@hussainyaq
@hussainyaq 4 года назад
ToolMetrix thank you so much 🌹☺️
@peterhkoller
@peterhkoller 2 года назад
Hi Paul, I am in the market for a new saw and looking at the Laguna F2. I watched a few videos about them fence, and I am really concerned about the fence, there is no support on the other end of the fence, how much play is there, especially if you are cutting large boards the inaccuracy will exacerbate the problem. Whats your opinion.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
I didn’t find any concerns about the fence. I think this aspect of the F3 fence is a pretty common for a cabinet saw fence. It’s the same in that respect as the Biesemeyer fence on my unisaw.
@peterhkoller
@peterhkoller 2 года назад
Thank you
@peterhkoller
@peterhkoller 2 года назад
@@ToolMetrix thank you
@jonathanmathews7673
@jonathanmathews7673 3 года назад
Can someone tell me where to purchase an F2? I have been looking for a week and everyone is out of stock, back ordered or tells me "pre order now!" I desperately need to upgrade my terrible ryobi 🤦🏽‍♂️
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi Jonathan, Unfortunately I've been hearing that a lot over the last couple weeks. It's a popular saw. I've gotta believe that they have more on the way, but I haven't heard any ETA.
@carstenduffin4323
@carstenduffin4323 Год назад
Hi, I was wondering how complicated the removal of the cast iron table is. I would nee d to carry the saw in the basement and would like to strip it for weight. How much does the base of the machine weight without the table?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Год назад
It’s pretty easy on the F2 as I recall.
@carstenduffin4323
@carstenduffin4323 Год назад
@@ToolMetrix ok, sounds good. any Idea how much the machine body weights withour the table?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix Год назад
Don’t know but it should be manageable for 2 healthy men. Web says shipping weight for F2 is 265. Subtract some for pallet, and the top, rails, hand wheels, and everything else you can carry separately must weigh 100ish (wild guess), im guessing that you will be carrying 130-150 pounds. Easy peasy.
@dusbus2384
@dusbus2384 4 года назад
I'm torn between this, grizzly g0899, and jet pro shop. Seems like the grizz is best at that price point
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Jon, those are good comparables. What are you basing your assessment and ultimately your selection on?
@dusbus2384
@dusbus2384 4 года назад
ToolMetrix best bang for buck. Grizzly ran a sale so I got one to the house for $1300. I liked the full cabinet and steel rails vs the aluminum rails on the fusion. I’m waiting on shipment now
@stankolodin5586
@stankolodin5586 4 года назад
Why is cast iron good for table saw wings?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Stan, it's generally preferred for stationary saws and other woodworking equipment due to its resistance to flexing, flatness and added stability from its weight. You can certainly produce great results using a saw that has stamped steel wings, however.
@marcusoakes9502
@marcusoakes9502 2 года назад
How do you keep your table surface so pristine? Mine has rust… I don’t want to take a scotch Brite to it though…
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
Well, that's a brand new saw. But my main table saw is 25 years old. In my previous garage shop, rust was a constant battle. I tried many different products and nothing prevented it. The only thing that worked was to cover it with a tarp when I wasn't using it, and that worked perfectly. To remove rust I use 0000 steel wool and WD40. The coat it with car wax. Some people will warn you against car wax because it can mess with wood finish, but I've never had any problem as long as remove the car wax before you use the saw. :) But the wax itself offers very little resistance against rust.
@marcusoakes9502
@marcusoakes9502 2 года назад
@@ToolMetrix I’ve been using WD-40 to clean it… who knew
@harryshaw3813
@harryshaw3813 4 года назад
My F2 has been ordered. Hope it get's here before I die..... My question is what did you use to remove the anti rust junk ??
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Hi Harry, it wasn’t a problem at all. Just wiped it off with a dry paper towel, then one dampened with mineral spirits, then one more dry one. Done in 2 minutes.
@harryshaw3813
@harryshaw3813 4 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Kewl I live in Arizona so it'll evaporate before I get it...LOL
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
🤣
@tymonster183
@tymonster183 4 года назад
Laguna recommends WD-40 on their bandsaws (i just picked up a 1412) I used it and it worked great.
@parkerk7018
@parkerk7018 4 года назад
Will you be unboxing the fusion f3 saw?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
I’m hoping to get one in here. I’m not certain but optimistic.
@parkerk7018
@parkerk7018 4 года назад
ToolMetrix thank you! I really love and enjoy your videos!! Keep up the great work!!
@jrendt2157
@jrendt2157 3 года назад
How hard is it to swap the fence to the other side if you want to cut from the left side of the blade?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I didn't try it because I never cut from the left of the blade, but it should be easy. The fence lifts off the saw easily. You would just want to remove the three wing nuts from the right side of the fence that hold the sliding fence in place.
@rickwilson6023
@rickwilson6023 3 года назад
As mentioned in an earlier reply this fence is similar to the old Delta Unifence. I've used that fence since 1985 and almost always in the low profile/ layed down position which allows room for your right hand to be further from blade when pushing thru a rip cut. The Unifence can be mounted on either side of the sliding t- frame for left of blade rips and for extension table router guiding. Is the Laguna fence able to mount only on the left side? Thanks for the informative review. I'll subscribe and also look if you have reviewed Laguna's joiners
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Thanks Rick. Those unifences are awesome and I’ve heard they are hard to find and worth a lot of money these days. I’m hoping to get my hands on one of the new redesigned jointers from Laguna later this year.
@jimknowles5483
@jimknowles5483 2 года назад
Wish you would have compared the saw kerf scratches with your other saw? Using the same blade, it would indicate tolerance runout quality. Thanks for the review!
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 2 года назад
With a high quality blade the cut quality is outstanding.
@johnslaughter5475
@johnslaughter5475 3 года назад
I am not denigrating the European fence. It is obviously quite good. But, can I get a Biesemeyer fence instead? I'm really partial to mine. Other than that, I really like the F2. I will soon have enough money saved for one.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Hi John, I don’t blame you. I’m pretty accustomed to my Biesemeyer fence after all these years. I don’t think that they offer that as an option but you can ask Laguna.
@johnslaughter5475
@johnslaughter5475 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix As a matter of fact, I did. A suggested video by Laguna came up and I watched it and then asked the question. Thank you. I've been saving up for a new saw and I like the F2, except for the fence.
@jimfeaster4837
@jimfeaster4837 4 года назад
Is this unit belt drive
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Yes it is.
@glenthearling4534
@glenthearling4534 4 года назад
Can a thin riving knife be used at the same time as the blade guard?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
I’m not sure if you can swap the riving knife in the guard to use the thin kerf. I didn’t attempt it and I no longer have the saw in my shop.
@espinozamichael20
@espinozamichael20 3 года назад
How come on their site it says I'd need a 25 amp circuit. I have a designated 20 amp breaker will that be sufficient?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I used it on a dedicated 20 amp circuit without having a problem. I’m not sure why they state a 25 amp requirement. Circuit breakers vary in their trip point which might be one reason. It also depends upon how hard you push the saw although I pushed it pretty hard.
@espinozamichael20
@espinozamichael20 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix okay thank you very much
@espinozamichael20
@espinozamichael20 3 года назад
@@ToolMetrix would you say the saw is worth the purchase?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
It's an impressive saw, and I believe that they priced it about right. Watch for the 10% off sales if you can, because they seem to come around periodically.
@martinaguilar4270
@martinaguilar4270 4 года назад
I have been reading different opinions on Laguna's costumer service. I'd hate to commit to the the table saw if the company won't take care of me. What's your take on that?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
A lot of the tools that I get, including these table saws, are here for a short time so I don’t contact them much for support. But I’d suggest checking out the Laguna Woodworking group on Facebook as there’s lots of discussion there.
@martinaguilar4270
@martinaguilar4270 4 года назад
@@ToolMetrix thank you😊
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549 4 года назад
I agree with Richard.. "Paul, You Suck!" I'm freekin envious. LOL! That fence is one I have on My Band saw. Nice design and innovation.
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
Lmao! I’m feeling the love, guys! 🤣. Most kids grew up dreaming about being professional athletes or movie stars. I just wanted to play with new power tools...
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549
@thomastieffenbacherdocsava1549 4 года назад
@@ToolMetrix Me too. My dad said"learn your hand tools first, you'll make smaller mistakes!"
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 4 года назад
That’s great advice. Too late for me but I’ll pass along to my kids. 😄
@scharkalvin
@scharkalvin 3 года назад
Not all circuit breakers will handle their rated current long term. Many will slowly over heat at full current (19-20A) and will trip in the middle of a long cut! I have this problem with my air compressor on a dedicated 20A circuit in the garage. I wish I could rewire its motor for 240v (I have a 240 volt outlet in the garage).
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Good to know. Thanks for sharing.
@aaronthehandyman7714
@aaronthehandyman7714 3 года назад
Circuit breakers are really only designed to handle 80% of the face value load. So 16amps full time won’t hurt a 20 amp circuit. If you go beyond that it will trip with a constant amp draw it will trip. That’s why they recommend 25 amps
@scharkalvin
@scharkalvin 3 года назад
@@aaronthehandyman7714 really no such thing as a 25 amp 120 amp circuit. Common outlets are rated to a max of 20A. I guess you could wire those circuits with 10 gauge wire and use a 25 amp breaker, but you'd have to cheat on the outlet, or find an industrial 30A one and rewire the tool.
@aaronthehandyman7714
@aaronthehandyman7714 3 года назад
@@scharkalvin absolutely correct. Although once you change the cord cap you technically void any warranty’s.
@righthook27
@righthook27 3 года назад
Aluminum trunnion?? Why?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
Lighter for portability and probably lower manufacturing and shipping costs to keep the price point down on the lower end model.
@handy-remodeler
@handy-remodeler 4 года назад
Any one put a router table top in th F1?
@ToolMetrix
@ToolMetrix 3 года назад
I didn't try that, TJ, but I have done it on a similar saw and it worked really well.
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