Potentially not preferring ‘she’ considering how it’s used/reacted to by Lake Every time a character says ‘she’ it feels pointed and Lake seems disgruntled by it
@@AN-ou6qu under the nb umbrella there are also demi-boy and demi-girls. Which are people who may be non-binary but also still slightly identify as male or female, just not fully
lake's reflectiveness is what made them be treated as less than human, but in the end reflecting is what made lake and jesse equals, not treating lake as merely a "lesson." oh god infinity train is crazy. it's a physical setting all about the structures of mental health, sometimes the train can help but sometimes the complex nature of dealing with those subjects can hurt. for every person with a supportive friend that helps them out, that friend might just be treated as another lesson or plot point. when book 2 was announced i was like "damn, tulip's reflection is getting a whole season??" but that's the point it's supposed to surprise you and show you that you treat lake, in some way, as a plot point as well. but lake's a PERSON.
I love stories that with each new volume (season, one shot chapter) you go from “where are the old favs who are these nobodies” to “OMG my children!” At least for me
I like that her story is very open to many different people, including trans people. It’s a story for anyone struggling with identity in some way. I, for one, before finding out about my transmasc identity, related to Lake heavily for something else.
I may have cried. Seriously though, as someone who is heavily contemplating identifying as nb or something androgynous lake is a very relatable. I know a lot of people are debating what Lake represents whether it’s Transmasc, Transfem, or nb, but I think Lake just... represents. Lake is anything and everything and I think that they’re a character that is meant to be anything you find comforting or relate to.
@@clickpause8732 its true though. Ask any random person on the street, the average janes and johns who work hard and keep society functioning what any of what the op said means and they'd have absolutely no idea what was said. These made up terms just fetishise gender confusion. Humans need to struggle, so people latch onto the ideologies because it gives them that very meaning in life. Must be a coincidence that the collapse of community and organised religion, individuals are latching onto predatory online groups that espouse this stuff. You want meaning? Go out, work a job, get a hobby, exercise. Conquer yourself you conquer the world
Lake is the most they/them person I know. just, fully androgynous and I relate to them so much, I mean... I literally look like them, shaved head and even the single eyebrow slit on one side. I just can't not see them as myself
The creator basically said "corporate said you can't use the word. So you either don't get the book or show made, or you make it obvious enough that the people who need to hear the message hear it."
I kind of agree but disagree. In a way, Lake ends up representing a lot more than just pronouns( not daying they don't its just everyone sometimes draws attention to that when there's really more going on here; one of those being that Lake us being labeled, treated as less than human, etc.); the whole feel of that character is like representation in general (in general meaning that Lake's struggles can represent a lot of different things to a lot of different people); along with the big themes: representation of identity and change. But explicitly giving that character whatever pronouns that they have wouldn't hurt either. ( this is just a side note but I think the show is a good show to watch with family members that may not understand people who are struggling with identity. It gets many points across and on the bright side of how they do this season, family members can't judge off of something in the beginning and then just stopped watching it idk how to explain that portion if it)
Im really proud of this viz cuz here theres Cavetown fans who don’t know what infinity train is, or infinity train fans who don’t know who Robbie is, or people who don’t know who those both are and this video is mixing this two types of people
I didn’t know infinity train existed until this got recommended to me because of my obsession with cavetown and I cannot stress how much this story means to me now. I keep revisiting this video every couple of weeks and I’m so grateful it was recommended to me. When I first watched season two I legit cried because it was the first time I’d ever seen something at least vaguely resembling transmasc representation in media and I felt like I saw myself for the first time.
Imma be honest, if my reflection feels like living their own life at any point they can leave man. I don't need to look at myself in the mirror, I don't even like doing it. Go out bud live your life however you want, I ain't stopping you
I sincerely hope that they hear you, and that mine could hear me too. After Season 2, I always hope that my reflection’s doing well. If they could not afford freedom, then the least I could do is give them kindness from the other side and hope that they’d feel me.
Even though she's probably easier to read as transmasc due to her presentation, I still heavily related to her as a trans woman. Her story is just very trans, period. I wish I'd had stuff like this to watch growing up, and I wish that my parents had let me watch more cartoon stuff without making me feel embarrassed about it...
I disagree. The fact that they completely cut their hair and changed their style would make them a trans *man* to begin with, but honestly? I believe that they are actually non-binary. I don’t believe they ever really specify what their sexuality or gender is, I suggest just going with they/them. ^^
@@stoopid_shoes9914 I don't recall which pronouns they use in the show well, but I thought they were she/her -- it's also very important to note that non-binary people don't universally use they/them, many use she/her, he/him, or neopronouns
Lake is confronted by so many people trying to force her to choose between categories and in the end chooses to be none of them and that in and of itself is very trans
@@ap0llogetic427 I just looked into it and the main source said that it’s not cancelled. Only the fans are saying it’s been cancelled. The creators say that it’s in an uncertainty hiatus, meaning that, it hasn’t been renewed or cancelled... yet. The thing that could change this is if it got more views on HBO Max. Something that I’m uncertain will happen or not, but I certainly hope that those with HBO Max watch it and stream it (aka leave it on in the background to rack up the views).
As a trans woman, when I watch stories about transmasc people I feel a weird sense of dysphoria. Like I know what they're going through is different but it's weird to see someone hating what you've wanted your whole life
We are all different strokes. Rather than focus on the dysphoria of people being different, focus on the similarities of a shared euphoria of people being able to be who they really are. Not to in any way lower one's recollection of their own experiences, everyone is valid.
Just watched the whole thing. Honestly not very long since episodes are like 10 minutes and each season is around 10 episodes each, but Its incredibly impactful and heartfelt. It’s some of the best writing I’ve ever seen and I cried quite a lot. BUT IF YOU CAN watch it on HBO max so they get a record that people want to watch the show. It helps in proving that people really want to see more of it
jesus christ of course this song gets to be associated with infinity train because it just fkin hit my trans lil heart like one XD like, I've heard the song before a few times and was fine, I was fine listening to it this time too but a friend on a skype call with me asked about it and i went to sing them just a little of it like "here this is the vibe" and i didn't even get through the first line i just fkin broke and cried like excuse me what in the fresh hell was that emotions we were ok a second ago
i wish cavetown put this song on spotify. but honestly this works so well for lake, i love them so much and relate to them even if they arent trans. i actually got my hair cut like them :^D
I still have yet to watch Infinity Train, so I had no idea this was the same person. I thought they were two different characters. Now I really have to watch it.
is this character canonically trans or is it a coding thing? not to say their fanon identity isn't important, i'm just bored of representation always being implicit at best lmao.
It’s never directly stated, but hoo boy is it _obviously_ what the creators intended. Less fanon and more what probably would’ve been explicitly said if the show wasn’t being produced by a massive corporation who refuses to let their shows step _too_ hard on anyone’s toes.
oh no i feel like i should watch this now. i wish i had more shows like this when i was a kid, and i hope younger trans peeps get more support bc of how vids like this exist ♥
the most painful part in the story was watching Jesse mistrust lake because of the wanted poster. I know the feeling they felt. everyone is willing to trust anyone but you when you are trans, because society has dimmed your behaviour criminal while you get no choice in the matter. and the sense of betrayal when a person you want to trust does this to you hurts so much more than anything else.
Can you imagine what she would look life if she was human like if she actually looked like tulip but with a shaved head and black T just a whole different look it would be wild
i am seriously wondering if i could be a demi girl or if i just want a flat chest and shorter hair (look more androgynous) and i really just figured out my sexuality man
I’ve been seeing Infinity train all over my recommended section but I haven’t been able to find the actual episodes to watch... anyone have any tips? 🥺 edit: grammar, sorry, English is not my first language
Have no idea what this show (if it's a show) is, but i feel like i gotta search all the corners of the internet for any bit of information on it.. also probably watch it.
It's people relating to the message of being something when everyone only sees you as another (Lake is a person but no one acknowledges it because shes not a passenger) Lots of trans/nb people relate to her story, so they like to relate to her is most of it ( sources: I'm nb lmao)
MT is technically female if she is a reflection of tulip. But in mirror world terms she doesn't have a gender??? Idk its confusing. People shouldn't care about a characters gender honestly tho
@@Squeak-df8px That and also the fact that trans people ESPECIALLY afab trans people are so underrepresented that some of us would accept fan theories as good enough representation.
@@mcflopkin8434 there's no reason to assume mirror people dont have genders afaik... lake, sieve, and mace never say anything about them not having gender. i think you're thinking the mirror folx dont have a gender bc they're not technically human, which is just... not really applicable? people can care about a character's gender, it's not a dumb thing to care about. saying people shouldnt care about a characters gender is annoying to a lot of lgb and especially t people
