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Lala Kramarenko 2020 - Who wins the difficulty? 

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Who wins the difficulty so far?
This is me trying to figure out how much a routine could worth if it was executed perfectly.
0:58 CORRECTION Only 2 rotations not 3 here
2:20 Could be "transmission without hands / unstable balance (without visual control)" for 0.3 point
2:54 ''rotation'' and not ''without visual control'' in the text duh
MISTAKE with Kramarenko's ribbon details 9.0/6.5 and not 8.8/6.7
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@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
0:58 CORRECTION Only 2 rotations not 3 here 2:20 Could be "transmission without hands / unstable balance (without visual control)" for 0.3 point 2:54 ''rotation'' and not ''without visual control'' in the text duh MISTAKE with Kramarenko's ribbon details 9.0/6.5 and not 8.8/6.7 These videos are from GP Tartu Miss Valentine 2020 from @Estonia RG AGG. Lala Kramarenko has special routines in the sense that DB and DA are not distributed as usual (34% - 66% of points among top gymnasts VS Kramarenko 55% - 45%). She realizes few elements but all have high values, in particular the pivots. She does 5 per routines: 2 360° fully rotated backscale pivot often combined with AD, 2 combined pivots and 1 Split pivot. Therefore we see less AD, and in particular less large catch - throw combo (with walkover in extra). So far she doesn't seems to show weakness in body her difficulty, expect in 2 cases : - the Attitude/Ring combination that cause her a lot of problem (hops, form deviation, basic rotation incomplete) - the Side split pivot: the form present a (at least) a medium deviation. She has perhaps more weakness with the apparatus. She's still a bit green in apparatus handling with hoop (which is normal for a new senior) and she's often sticking her ball against her forearm. Finally her unstable balance with ball are very very similar during several pivots (especially side pivot and backscale pivot from the floor) :/ She also repeat the large throw for two BD (turning split jump / backscale balance). Hoop 15.8 (8.4 7.4) (with correction, see above) Ball 15.9 (8.3 7.6) Clubs 16.0 (8.4 7.6) Ribbon 15.5 (9.0 6.5) (with correction, see above)
@FranBlasco
@FranBlasco 4 года назад
COP 2017-2020: *isn't very favorable to pivots since it reduced the value of most of them* Lala: let me introduce myself
@rhythmicmusicswap4173
@rhythmicmusicswap4173 4 года назад
during the Rio's CoP she could ahve gotten 10 in D only doing pivots XD
@bayupermana31
@bayupermana31 4 года назад
What I see from other gymnast: AD, throw, catch, AD, AD Kramarenko: pivot, pivot, pivot, BD, AD 😂
@lf9286
@lf9286 Год назад
lol
@osbonecosdamirnita
@osbonecosdamirnita 4 года назад
I love her so much. She is powerful!
@celinegandalf1583
@celinegandalf1583 4 года назад
“Only” five turns here Haha I can’t even do 2 :) And it’s so cool how her ribbon BD is ,ore than her AD
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
"only" is taking another dimension here ahah! All of her routines have high DB than DA. PS: You can do one turn that's a good start ;)
@estoniargagg2518
@estoniargagg2518 4 года назад
Thanks so much for using our channel (@Estonia RG AGG) videos! Excellent and professional performance analysis!
@Wiserwords25
@Wiserwords25 3 года назад
Thank you for providing the videos!
@dododimitrov9657
@dododimitrov9657 4 года назад
I live for these combo pivots
@ТатьянаСуркова-м6м
Это фантастика!!! Пируэты на грани!!!! Это обворожительно!!! Вас не догонят! Ещё лет 20!
@mariyangeorgiev7675
@mariyangeorgiev7675 4 года назад
What can we say... last year we thought that 6+ in DB is a lot and now here is Lala :O She has the whole year to prepare for the next cycle where she is bound to be very successful, or so it seems for now
@user-gf2pw1kf8r
@user-gf2pw1kf8r 3 года назад
Лалочка - будущая олимпийская чемпионка 🥇🏆🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@celinegandalf1583
@celinegandalf1583 4 года назад
Ahhhh you’re so fast and amazing!
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
You're fast too ahah! I'm trying my best to finish before the end of next week with Halkina, Salos, Nikolchenko, Kaleyn, Harnasko and Pohranychna 😊
@silviakasper2314
@silviakasper2314 4 года назад
What a powerful athlete! And she is literarly a contortionist!
@taniafoo9136
@taniafoo9136 4 года назад
her BD is crazyyy but i especially dislike her side scale pivot when her body is obviously not facing sideways
@agathad1
@agathad1 4 года назад
OMGGG! MAGNIFIC
@le_gouvernement_ouzbek
@le_gouvernement_ouzbek 2 года назад
It's crazy how lala only does 7 bd's in her ribbon routine yet it has the highest DB score
@robertouscategui2487
@robertouscategui2487 4 года назад
I only wish she can let her arms/hands more loose, she seems rigid while performing a transition or awaiting to do a catch, however I see her reigning the next 2 Olympic cycles easily
@irenagoverdovsky6764
@irenagoverdovsky6764 4 года назад
She’s good, but all programs looks like the same. All in the temp with same turns . Sorry if it’s off top.
@dododimitrov9657
@dododimitrov9657 4 года назад
all gymnast more or less do same body elements in different order in all 4 routines. It would be great change if they implement and element or combination to be maximum done in 2 from 4 routines. This would bring diversity.
@gloriaroy5488
@gloriaroy5488 4 года назад
Also, her face always looks the same. I hope she could have more facial expressions, even just some smile.
@GumGirl
@GumGirl 4 года назад
@@dododimitrov9657 I don't think it's possible, her routines are too fast and packed with difficulties. She doesn't get any space in them 🤷‍♀️ I love Lala, but they're burning her out and I think that adding facial expressions could be too much
@cherrychocoangel1323
@cherrychocoangel1323 4 года назад
please do salos!
@ludmilag2692
@ludmilag2692 3 года назад
За музыкальное оформление каждого вида - чумовое ....!!!!!!!и композицию !!! без сбавок !
@rhythmicmusicswap4173
@rhythmicmusicswap4173 4 года назад
Just gotta love you ❤️
@JosephTobinDance
@JosephTobinDance 4 года назад
Hey! I love your videos, and this had really helped me understand how difficulty works within the sport. I just was curious, you say she does 720° backscale pivots in the video, however she only does 1 rotation which would be 360° right? I'm sure there's an explanation so I'm just curious as to how that works :) Please keep up the great videos!
@saem_rg
@saem_rg 4 года назад
the base rotation for backscale pivots is 180°, so you get 0.5 for half turn, and additional 0.2 if the turn is completed (360° - 0.7 points). 720° would be two full turns worth 1.1 points
@Alice-hy6kj
@Alice-hy6kj 4 года назад
I calculated the partial "apparatus" in ribbon based on your analysis, but it results 6.5 instead of 6.7. Maybe I did just a mistake with calculation (math is not my strong point) but if it were right the total would be 15.3 and not 15,5
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
No, you're actually right! I mistype the details! The total is right, but not the details. 9.0 in DB and 6.5 in DA. Thank you for you're correction :)
@ГалинаБеляева-э3е
@ГалинаБеляева-э3е 2 года назад
Супер Лада !!
@solomonsolomonovich2464
@solomonsolomonovich2464 2 года назад
Лала, ты лучшая в мире
@Amelia-ui4uv
@Amelia-ui4uv 2 года назад
how do you make the things in the top left corner?
@user-ol6nw8zg5s
@user-ol6nw8zg5s 4 года назад
New generation
@aldiz1298
@aldiz1298 4 года назад
I give this girl 1 more year or maximum 2 before her trainers and novogorsk "style" ruin her body and her career. Her body is starting to change and they are not adapting the routines to this crucial change. Look at averinas, they seemed unbreakable robots in 2017 and now three years later they look like mummies all wraped in bands for injuries.
@lf9286
@lf9286 2 года назад
They are still winning golds
@Abby-ox3gf
@Abby-ox3gf 4 года назад
Isn’t 1:38 an ad? Roll out of sight, in a rotation 0.2? It counts in the uk
@dannyjq
@dannyjq 4 года назад
too easy for a top gymnast, especially with hoop. it's harder with ball because the radius is smaller (but i think it should still not be valid with ball even if judges count it). also it would be 0.3 instead of 0.2 (large roll across 2 body segments)
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
Judges didn't even dear to count roll of the hoop outside off visual control during a Split Arabesque Balance last year (Newsletter 1), so I think this one is out of question for hoop.
@dannyjq
@dannyjq 4 года назад
@@ClematisRGVideos i always thought that was funny, because out of all the ADs they would say shouldn't be counted they chose that one! in my opinion that roll is much harder than a lot of real ADs, because it's hard to put the arms horizontal in penché
@ahamedmusaf2185
@ahamedmusaf2185 2 года назад
Can someone break down the score at @2:32? Isn't it 0.5x6=3? How did they come up with a score of 6?
@goranrichert2605
@goranrichert2605 4 года назад
Chydo!!
@aishaizabekova1069
@aishaizabekova1069 4 года назад
In the hoop she also had a roll on the dance floor? 0,3?
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
This type of roll is considered to be part of the fundamental work of the hoop and not technically difficult synchronization like for ball.
@db-wv9jx
@db-wv9jx 4 года назад
I thought only 9 DB were allowed why does she have around 12 in ribbon for example? Are they all counted? And also, when gymnasts already have the limit for DBs but they add DAs with DB like passé for criteria does that still count?
@le_gouvernement_ouzbek
@le_gouvernement_ouzbek 2 года назад
I only counted 7 but if you counted 12 you probably counted combination BDs as multiple BDs and no the passe pivot does not count as a BD because there are other BDs with higher value that get counted instead
@user-nc5ny6nu1m
@user-nc5ny6nu1m 4 года назад
Please do Kaleyn
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
On its way ;)
@osyasa6255
@osyasa6255 4 года назад
Omg! Only watching it makes me sweat 🥵🤯
@Dadadadaetc
@Dadadadaetc 4 года назад
She is an excellent gymnast, but she lacks facial expression (I think)
@icebabyellen5495
@icebabyellen5495 4 года назад
Maybe who did this the best was Alina Maksymenko
@camilatakao5462
@camilatakao5462 4 года назад
i agree, no interpretation e no facial expression (i don't like her exectuion too).
@tachibanayu
@tachibanayu 4 года назад
@@camilatakao5462 i love lala's execution though😂
@annan583
@annan583 4 года назад
In an interview with the Olympic channel she says that she has a hard time focusing on artistry and facial expressions because she’s too busy working on technical skills.
@popaganda919
@popaganda919 4 года назад
lala for gold at tokyo
@Vip-COP
@Vip-COP 4 года назад
As I sayed...her body skills are terrific, but her execution is sucks... the apparatus handle is not that clear too. Very clumsy.!!
@dannyjq
@dannyjq 4 года назад
0:58 isn't it only R2, not R3? she only did 2 rotations at gp moscow and russian nationals as well. i also feel like she can only do the 3 attitude + 2 ring pivot at the beginning of the routine, if she puts it in the middle she can only do 1 ring pivot. but i suppose we can still count it here as possible. glad everyone is on the same page in hating- *cough* being suspicious of the validity of her side inclination pivots. also i really hope she gets some dance training to build her sense of artistry! her routines aren't so fast that it's impossible to have good choreography, she has a lot of time for it in between elements
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 года назад
0:58 Oh I though I remember it well that she did 3 rotations in Moscow an Nationals, but I should have checked! You're right about the combination attitude/pivot. I was more idealistic here, than for Raffaeli for example, where I clearly counted what she usually does. The side inclination is so cheated. She put in in combination with ring position to make the change more clear, but for me she's usually still in penche position (look at her legs!), only with a back slightly on the side, like a wrong penche position.
@icebabyellen5495
@icebabyellen5495 4 года назад
why she did that much kabaeva?
@ld8080
@ld8080 4 года назад
Icebaby Ellen what do you mean? Kabaeva’s energetic presence or her elements?
@icebabyellen5495
@icebabyellen5495 4 года назад
@@ld8080 backscale pivot
@ld8080
@ld8080 4 года назад
Icebaby Ellen well, I thought it was quite common among other athletes... but okay)
@giannimariasarraferraris1748
@giannimariasarraferraris1748 3 года назад
U always write 720 back scale pivot but these are clearly 360
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 3 года назад
Hello! You're right, it's because it's theoretical difficulty and Kramarenko showed she could do 720° backscale. However it's true I should have put them in orange and not in blue.
@giannimariasarraferraris1748
@giannimariasarraferraris1748 3 года назад
@@ClematisRGVideos anyway good job!!!!!!
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 3 года назад
@@giannimariasarraferraris1748 I obviously will be more careful when making the reviews ;)
@giannimariasarraferraris1748
@giannimariasarraferraris1748 3 года назад
@@ClematisRGVideos u have already done a great job!!!
@user-wd7lf8cg5m
@user-wd7lf8cg5m 4 года назад
I think it's dishonest, you take Lala's performings from Miss Valentine, Krystyna Pohranychna's performings, you take from diferrent competitions, where she didn't prepared.
@Maarjaanaa
@Maarjaanaa 4 года назад
this is not a perfection, I think this hard working girl doesn't have a good coach, sorry for her
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