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Lambretta & Vespa scooter exhausts - tuning speed performance - Expansion vs Clubman - which? 

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@widdowshinstv4843
@widdowshinstv4843 3 года назад
Even I understand it now... Cheers Dan.
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
Then I have achieved my goal... :)
@widdowshinstv4843
@widdowshinstv4843 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969 And you know how dense I am re: anything more complex than a pencil
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
@@widdowshinstv4843 lol :)
@davidminton2661
@davidminton2661 Год назад
Hi what carb should I use with the new casa x1 200 sport kit with a jet 200 gearbox and a jl3 exhaust 25mm or 28mm
@anthonyhudson8378
@anthonyhudson8378 3 года назад
This explains a lot about what was happening to my P225E back in the day!
@gavinevans4711
@gavinevans4711 3 года назад
Already smashed the like button before it had finished. Wish I could go back and do it again.
@benreadings
@benreadings 3 года назад
Very very cool video. Brilliantly made and brilliantly explained. Cheers Dan.
@neuralyser
@neuralyser 3 года назад
Really interesting, graphic depictions are worth a thousand words
@craigdowding1256
@craigdowding1256 2 года назад
Brilliant video, very informative and interesting 👍🏼
@charleswatson7281
@charleswatson7281 2 года назад
Tremendous video and vital information- thanks
@richardshipman8399
@richardshipman8399 3 года назад
very informative thanks for taking time to explain , now i've to measure my port timings n scratch me head some more
@reccerat4446
@reccerat4446 3 года назад
Great info Dan, I have an SX with a Mugello 225 kit on it and a stirling expansion exhaust and quite honestly love it. Is it the fastest, nope, but it has endless grunt and sits around 70 nicely not getting hot at all.
@mattlight7363
@mattlight7363 3 года назад
Excellent video and for a brief moment you mentioned the black art of port timings, will there be a vid on that cos that's where I have absolutely no clue!!?
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
It's all in the pipeline! :)
@brianlazzar1
@brianlazzar1 13 дней назад
Just stumbled across this, very well explained with graphics. What would you recommend for a standard px125 ( looking to get a kit on in the future 💰
@VespaPhil
@VespaPhil 3 года назад
Interesting and informative, thanks!
@billsmith1545
@billsmith1545 3 года назад
Well explained Dan. I've always said it's a waste of time putting an expansion pipe on a std engine 😊
@dancycles2079
@dancycles2079 2 года назад
Iv just brought a px 125 with a stupid pipe ... Won't pull 4th gear 😂 you answered all my questions.
@kevinhagen7808
@kevinhagen7808 Год назад
I've toured on my TS1 225 Annihilator, Li150 Italian gearbox with Franspeed Race on 4.8 : 1 final drive ratio (17x48) and it does quite well, it still pulled 4th no problem but with a bit of work between the gears climbing the Austrian mountains though it had no trouble accelerating upwards in the right gear. I'll be changing that to 4.9 : 1, mostly because the new clutch kit I've got is 46 teeth and I've got a 16 tooth front sprocket. Hopefully better acceleration but still tour-able.
@vespasandengines
@vespasandengines 3 года назад
Great topic to know about...
@user-ts8vt8qy8e
@user-ts8vt8qy8e 2 дня назад
What’s Best exhaust for a 185 scootopia kit?
@nickmassey9104
@nickmassey9104 3 года назад
Great explanation Dan .
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
Cheers Nick, there's actually so much more to say on all of these topics, but you have to draw the line somewhere. This video was 20 mins long and I left so much out! lol
@vespasandengines
@vespasandengines 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969 keep telling us about it
@user-ts8vt8qy8e
@user-ts8vt8qy8e 2 дня назад
Can we do same vid in a 185 scootopia kit?
@simoncollins6219
@simoncollins6219 3 года назад
Good video Dan, what was the final drive ratio recommended for the Clubman with the TS1, you mentioned it for the other pipes, not the Clubman. Cheers Simon
@Jackintheshed
@Jackintheshed 5 месяцев назад
Hi, have you ever wrapped a pipe and tested it on the dyno ? Would you recommend wrapping expansion chamber exhaust? Cheers Jack
@robryde4854
@robryde4854 Год назад
Yes nice video when did you get into scooters ?
@exsoulagent
@exsoulagent 3 года назад
So what brand was used on the expansion exhausts ? Good informative vid 👍🏻
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
These were the old Chiselspeed ADS pipes, but i think they have been superseded by the CST range now.
@HighMileageOffroad
@HighMileageOffroad 3 года назад
What about jog pipes vs dirtbike pipes? I build motorized bicycles and am trying to get my 69cc 2 stroke engine to run with enough rpm to make 50mph I run a reed valve and mikuni vm18 carb. If you have any questions I'd be glad to answer them!
@nickbarber4222
@nickbarber4222 15 дней назад
That dip before the power band is a ball ache 😠
@ericwalker2172
@ericwalker2172 Год назад
Hi Dan I’ve got a SX 200 I’ve taken the old Indian top end out and the 22 jet x car out ,I’ve gone for a BGM 225 kit and on your recommendation fitted a 30 Dellorto carb what would your choice of pipe be , it’s running a Scootopia clubman at the moment I want to keep the classic look thanks 🤔🤔
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 Год назад
SIP club sport would suit it
@benhortonben9105
@benhortonben9105 2 года назад
Great video, great explanation but as a newbie just starting my adventures into scootering I have no idea which exhaust is which! I'll stick with stock for now! 🤦 For future reference is there any guides for beginners?
@SuperMonik
@SuperMonik Год назад
if you have Vespa, you can choose Polini Box or SIP Road 3 for stock engine.. It really pulls at low to mid RPM
@garybrown3880
@garybrown3880 3 года назад
Great video Iv got a rt 230 and have to use a 50 slide to sort bottom end have you ever had to do this? Cheers
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
Only when the atomiser is an AV268. What’s the rest of your carb settings?
@garybrown3880
@garybrown3880 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969 55 pilot 268 av X7 135 main
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
That’ll explain it then :)
@garybrown3880
@garybrown3880 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969 Cheers mate love the videos 👍🏻
@TheModernVince
@TheModernVince 3 года назад
Simple: choose your cylinder then your exhaust and finally the gearbox. In your opinion, Dan, is a basic and old school iron 200 stage 4 cylinder with Asso-Werke piston (without skirt) is tuned enough for an expansion or a clubman is a better option?
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
I know this sounds vague, but it depends on what gearing you run, what carb you run, how big you are, what passenger/luggage loads you may carry, etc, as to how you perceive the results of fitting it. It also depends on which expansion and which clubman you compare/use, the choices are huge. Engines are best built as a 'whole package'... everything else is a compromise of sorts.
@TheModernVince
@TheModernVince 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969: 70kg plus luggage, full frame scooter, Italian GP200 gearbox, 47/18 sprocket, either 22 SH2 scootopia or Mikuni TM24 carb, depends of exhaust but Scootopia or MBGM V1 clubman exhaust available in the shed for the moment.
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
@@TheModernVince that is a really good setup as is, I'd be tempted to fit the Mikuni carb, the BGM exhaust, and also try a 19 tooth front sprocket at that point.
@giuseppegreco5455
@giuseppegreco5455 3 года назад
good evening I have a px 200 with polini 210 gs piston 30phbh carb very well adjusted + reed valve vforce 4 with an Polini original box exhaust what do you think of this configuration, an expansion is not likely to reduce my current performance or should I go to a box of type BGM bbs or sip road xl viper thank you for your advice and your very explanatory video
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
It depends a) how it rides now, and b) how you want it to ride. Combining a 30mm and V-force with a Polini box exhaust seems strange... but does it work for you? If not, then yes you may have to change exhaust.
@giuseppegreco5455
@giuseppegreco5455 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969 yes it works but up to 6500 rev it stagnates, good torque below which arrives early but I feel that it could give more but I am afraid that with an expansion I will lose my current generous torque good for short distance but in a straight line and long road it becomes annoying. With a reed valve it is absolutely necessary to combine it with an expension thank you for your answers PS sorry for my writing I live in belgium and my english is a little eratic
@drunkmunkey6969
@drunkmunkey6969 3 года назад
@@giuseppegreco5455 I think with a reed valve and a touring-based expansion chamber, you will see the best of the engine.
@giuseppegreco5455
@giuseppegreco5455 3 года назад
@@drunkmunkey6969 ok thank you so i will try the sip road xl viper it seems to me to have better ground clearance than the bgm bbs again thank you for your advice a pleasure to watch your video
@neill4133
@neill4133 3 года назад
Used to laugh seeing scorpions and PMs on standard P200s, sound nice but useless in a breeze
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