The fact that when Greg Lemond, a legend in his own right, tried to expose doping in cycling. Was completely ostracized in the cycling community because of Lance. Truly shows how much influence he had in his prime.
Agreed. Like many Lance fans at the time I condemned Greg Le Mond as a bitter resentful man who felt overshadowed by Armstrong’s dominance, but now he’s been fully vindicated with his accusations against him and now stands as America’s greatest cyclist.
Lance didn't have the influence. The people behind the sport or his team had an influence. Surely, Lance couldn't do and maybe didn't want to do the doping if it weren't for the people behind it.
Had Armstrong quit after the seventh tour win, no one would have found out his cheating ways.....But his hubris, arrogance and sense of invincibility brought him back one more time, and because of that, he paid the price...And rightly so.
The biggest problem wasn’t the doping. It’s what he did to silence the people who had the truth. He did all that knowing he was lying to the world the entire time, and destroyed peoples lives to protect his lies. That’s what separates guys like Lance and Alex Rodriguez from other athletes that used PEDs. I don’t feel sorry for what happened to him at all.
Man I’m watching the documentary right now. And I came straight to the internet because I’ve never heard this guy speak. Jeez what a self centered douche this guy is. Definitely don’t feel bad for him at all now. I’m not one to comment because who cares but damn this dude has a horrible character.
Charlie Sheen says he met Lance once and Lance was apparently a total jerk. And it means a lot when Charlie Sheen of all people actually thinks somebody else is a jerk.
Nope, you're wrong, you couldn't be more wrong. Overall he helped millions of people get on their bikes, not only that, he increased the bike industry by huge margins, no one in the history of cycling has done so much for the sport.
@@tushfinger Eddie Merckx did more for the sport than Lance could have ever dreamed of. At any rate, Lance's "popularization" of cycling in America was straight off the heels of Greg Lemond popularizing cycling in America during the eighties. Lance simply recharged the momentum Greg had already started. Thanks to Greg, films like Breaking Away and American Flyers brought cycling to American households a decade before Lance was anybody.
In the 'Lance' documentary Armstrong explains how he forged his birth certificate to compete as a 16 year old when he started out in triathlon. His rationale was - quote "Forge the certificate, compete illegally and beat everybody." Interesting how that seems to have set the tone for his future.
Exactly. It’s one thing to dope. On one hand his cancer survivor story was inspirational. But once it was revealed how he treated people who knew he doped the inspirational side was overshadowed by his narcissistic and antisocial traits.
@@plantbasedanalyst6263 - No, if he had that knowledge, he should have taken it to authorities and WADA to become part of the solution rather than being part of the problem.
He probably would have been great without the doping, but we'll never know. IF he would have been a nicer guy and a better team leader his team might have closed ranks around him (as other teams did) and the story might be different. I think his behavior with his teammates really did him in.
@@le0nz sure he may have had more money and better doping, but you cant seriously tell me that you believe anh of the top riders from that era were clean
I was definitely a Lance Armstrong fan. He always stated that he was the most tested man on the planet, which proves he was clean. I was heartbroken when he admitted everything about his doping.
It's both astonishing and annoying how Lance is STILL the only cyclist that most American non-cyclists are aware of. What about Lawson Craddock? Neilson Powless? Brandon McNulty? Larry Warbasse? There's plenty of American pros right now. How about people join the modern world and spread cheer for one of those guys instead? But nope. It's still all about Lance.
@@michaelstratton5223Thats because they are American. Americans need simple black and white stories, they need two extremes, two opposites, to choose one camp and then hate on the other camp. Thats entertainment for them. Lance is to this day the only cyclist that did that. His cancer survival makes for a great hollywood style introduction, then you could pick the he cheats or, cancer made him a super human team and speculate and bash the other side. The cycling isn't important in this, if he did another sport he would have had the exact same fame in America. Its the same way their movies are, always a clearly good guy and clearly bad guy. Their politics are always just two options, both a bit extreme and no one is a centrists who looks at the good and bad in both. Just a different culture i suppose.
In my opinion, the man is a psychopath. In addition to his biking "escapades" check out how he conducted himself vis-a-vis relationship with Cheryl Crow. The behavior is of a part
Yeh it's in Hamiltons book the secret race I think he mentioned it happened in 2000 or 2001 it would of destroyed armstrong if they'd banned him like they should that's where it should of ended for lance
The moral of the story, or the tragedy was Armstrong turned a humbling and devastating experience of cancer at 25 into a weapon of revenge and malice (this was always in him) that winning at any cost was the devil's bargain. Sure he won 7 tours, but if he'd not turned to drugs and became that 1 day rider he would have (today) the admiration and respect of both the public and his peers, today he has nothing. A salutary lesson if their ever was one.
He has millions of dollars. Plus there are many people who don't care about the doping. Is that "nothing?" (I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. To me any sport at a high level is simply entertainment. The fact that people get paid such huge sums of money to play games is enough for me not to put much stake in having much investment in this.)
This crap is rampant. When Ben Johnson was stripped of his gold medal for the '88 Olympics, the gold went to American Carl Lewis who later admitted to be doped, but nothing ever happened. Lewis has become a poster child for great sprinters and has said many times that they were all 'helped with chemistry'.
I don't believe any professional sport is clean (and therefore by dictionary definition, sport does not exist). I knew a body building coach that worked as part of the drug testing programme for the olympic committee, and they were even having to regularly test synchronised swimmers as they were all taking beta blockers in order to reduce their heart rates.
I remember being annoyed that people were trying to bring him down with rumors of PED use - I wish I’d paid more attention and kept an open mind then and I wish more people would pay attention and keep open mind in 2023 to any public figure who is repeatedly accused of cheating/crimes
And he bought into Uber when it was starting up, I think he stuck in 200,000 bucks, that's a tidy little earner.... I knew pro riders back in the early 90's mostly MTB guys, who rode for a major US team, They used to openly laugh when they'd hear about Armstrong's latest victories and thundering denials, 91-92 they all told me he was full of prep, everyone knew. When I contradicted anyone is some of the new formed online chat groups, I had so many threats of violence against me, several said they could track where I lived and come and beat me, it was ridiculous... The other side of the coin is he did train hard, my French mate used to see him going up and down this one climb near his house near Argeles Gazost, part of his 7 hour training rides, even full of prep you have to train hard. Millar said you can't just have a injection and instant power, it still hurts like hell, but in your hell, there is no one left chasing you.... The man is a charlatan and he doesn't care, he made it, lost it and still made it... best if he's forgotten forever
Interesting story, thanks. I’ve also heard that he had been doping from early on. Just became more systematic in his approach after his return from cancer. In a completely clean cycling world, he may not even have been a competitive one day racer, but we’ll never know because doping was so widespread back then.
I was a competetive cyclist in my youth. I admired Armstrong for his achievements after fighting back from cancer. I bought his book. I celebrated every of his wins of the Tour de France. Then his doping scandal was revealed and that killed my interest in cycling for good. Sad, but true.
Yes I too have similar history and sentiments but after a decade off the bike and also 4 years after a bone marrow transplant I am happy to ride almost daily for exercise and fun. Cycling can be a pure and empowering sport.
Yep, me too. I work in healthcare, and did a bit of very local criterium racing. When a 'friend' asked me to steal/obtain drugs to help them cheat, I realised that the stench from pro cheaters had reached into the heart of the sport, right down to the roots. I still love cycling. But these days I admire the folks who ride around the world, or produce beautiful travel documentaries. Not the circus of pro racing.
You will never know if after being caught cheating, that there is contrition. The only way to subvert, and protect those not yet competing, is to punish the cheaters. They had their glory days by displacing other hard working individuals, let that be a lesson to the next person who is considering cheating. I have very little respect for Lance and can also see his great potential. Unfortunately for his fans and others, we were denied to know his true abilities because HE chose to cheat. He should be accountable if he was always wanting the accolades. Why this is confusing is beyond me except that I'm surrounded by people who want to cheat but can't. I have no other explanation for defenders of this man.
As a simple reply: no. The long answer: his cancer just didn't kill him (like many others who survive cancer) and then he created the greatest cheating machine in history, incl. legal and media strategies. And it worked - gullible people like you remain convinced even today he is 'great'.
@@rg31404 lol. He for sure is one of the greats of cycling and that’s not even debatable. Doping, no doping, he still had to put in the work, ride the miles, keep on top of nutrition etc. those things aren’t deniable. Accept it. He was untouchable in a world full of doping
If no one else cheated as well as him I think he would have won anyway. its just hat he let us down.I didnt know the ins and outs of bike racing like i do now...jus' sayin'
At about his 5th Tour de France win, I had an argument with my office mate -- a distance rider. "If Armstrong is not taking dope, I said, he is the greatest athlete in any sport of all time." After he won a couple more times, I knew he had to be cheating. Everyone knew by then. It was just a matter of time before it would be proven. He still has his defenders, even today. "Everyone was cheating back then." Uh, no. Armstrong destroyed the lives of so many riders and non-riders because they spoke the truth. LeMond for one.
@@HAL9007 no it’s not. He knew EVERYONE was doping, it natural for him to lash out when he is being singled out. The Europeans hated him because they considered cycling their sport. They targeted him because of it. No one was awarded the titles they stripped from him because EVERYONE tested positive. No one talks about that they just talk about Lance. It was an even playing field, it’s not cheating if EVERYONE is doing it.
Had he’d not made that unnecessary comeback in 2009-10 than I don’t think the forces that be that brought him down would have happened. But Lance’s own arrogance sadly sealed his stripping of the 7 wins. We all know other past winners took substances to enhance performance but Lance went one too many to let him get away with it. Greg Le Mond was unfairly cast as a resentful villain against Lance’s success but he now stands vindicated as he certainly never went down that route.
I felt betrayed when he admitted using EPO.... But when I overlook that, I remembered how inspiring was his Cinderella story, well... I still miss the late 90's to early 2000's, it was an exceptional time to be a cyclist. Now with the new era of Tadej Pogačar, I'm here thinking, please, don't be another Lance to us.
"You'd have to be an imbecile or hypocrite to imagine that a professional cyclist who rides 235 days a year can hold himself together without stimulants". "You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water". "For 50 years bike racers have been taking stimulants. Obviously we can do without them in a race, but then we will pedal 15 miles an hour (instead of 25). Since we are constantly asked to go faster and to make even greater efforts, we are obliged to take stimulants". All quotes by Jacques Anquetil Tour de France winner 1957, 61, 62, 63, 64
Nope. You have no idea wtf you’re talking about. Believe it or not, many top athletes refuse, and are vehemently anti doping. It goes against their values. Just bc you’re an athlete doesn’t make you a liar and a cheat.
@@JohnDough-yr2zt to be the top of any sport you must take PEDS. You think it’s only the legit competitors that are able to break world records and beat other athletes that are taking PEDS. Come on bro, use your brain. They all cheat to compete at the highest level on the world stage. If they don’t cheat they don’t win. Simple as that
@@JohnDough-yr2zt ask yourself this. All these world records that have been set in the past by proven drugs cheats. How can those records be beaten by completely clean athletes? Not possible right?
Armstrong was doping all along even as far back as the early Triathlon days. He would never win at the TDF, he was poor at the Time Trials and he could not climb to save his life. He chose EPO for a reason and it was for the climbing stages. He was probably on EPO most of his cycling life and steroid supplements. His reaction to EPO was his downfall since some people react to EPO more than others. He would not be able to win 1 TDF without the EPO, even if had been blood doping ( which was confirmed) without the EPO he could not dominate the climbing. This is identical to 2022 and 2023 they are all doping, but this time in Hyperbaric chambers to increase their Hematocrit levels, this is why see all the dominance from the top riders not only on the TT, Flats but also on the climbings.
He won the Tour 7 times against 2nd and 3rd place winners who were all, also, busted for doping at one time or other. He didn't cheat without the support of the UCI. Unbelievable athlete who took advantage of every training technique used by all of the teams.
@@ronwhite8503 Vilified is fine and deserved. But stripping the 7 titles was ridiculous as we now have 7 years of no TDF winners on record. And his ban was exponentially worse than any of the other dopers. His actions off the bike are the domain of civil lawsuits.
He had a better planned, more sophisticated drug's regime than others, and clearly his body responded very well to PEDs. Add to that the best team around him with the best strategies, a ruthless mentality, UCI giving him a hand here and there, and you get an unbeatable combo.
I knew that Lance, like most pro athletes used PEDs. They help with stamina, recovery, body building, hemoglobin production. I appreciate what Lance has done in inspiring cancer patients, in their recovery. Speaking from,experience, Lance inspired me to thrive through the adversity pain, sorrow and loss with my own cancer, and losing others to cancer.
My wonderful Father-in-law had Cancer, Lances comeback was a beacon of hope to him and he wasn’t even a rider. When Lance confessed it cut my Father-in -laws hopes down as he was a man of honour and integrity, he assumed Lance was too. For many, Lances actions cost them the will to live, to hope for a miracle or to simply hang on for another day. Lance had some pedigree for sure, but his ‘second is the first loser’ mantra is hollow, self centred, and Narcisistic, his teams doping and lies for 7 tours showed just how deep this Narcissism ran. May he enjoy his 50 million, yet I wonder if he realises that money will never buy him a peaceful heart.
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I was racing even before Lance. I didn’t care for LeMond and Armstrong because it seemed to me they ruined the traditional European racing. By spending millions and millions to win one race and almost forgetting about the rest of them. Almost like Dale Earnhardt race in the Daytona winning and then taking the rest of the season off.
Yeah, Dale Earnhardt, one of only three people who have won 7 championships, definitely took the rest of the season off after Daytona. The year he won Daytona he had a rough start to the season but ended up finishing 8th - not exactly taking the season off.
I dont understand why people continue to bash Lance, he was a Hero to the US and he was and still is a cycling monster, read below before bashing me. What they should have done is to condemn the whole Tour de France for 10 years, everyone doped, and had doped for years. Look at Pantani. I still do not understand Americans going after Lance, he brought cycling to the USA, the US did not care about the Tour the France before Lance , not even Eddie Merkx was able to do that. And lance was a monster , doped or not doped, he was focused, determined , he trained like hell and he had the right physiognomy. Doping increased that base by maybe 10/15%. Doping alone is not enough to win. Since all the peloton was doping, not doping was not an option. I dare anyone to just dope and try to finish 1 mountain stage of The Tour. I am 55, I cycle regularly, I trained hard to the Stelvio Santini Grand Fondo, finished in 8:30 hours, the guy that won did it in less then 4 hours. Top level cyclists are monsters. Lance was the Monster of Monsters, he still has my admiration and respect any day of the week.
Im curious, what is the accent you chose for your auto-narrator? (i assume its auto-narration bc of the mispronounciation of HUGE brands like Nike and names of pepole like Hincapie)
Try winning a grand tour clean. Even finishing one is brutal for the body. Doping gives you a ticket to possibly win but it's not a guarantee. Lance still worked hard for those wins and deserves his titles. The sport will never be clean. It's just the reality of it.
Agreed indeed. For example…moving to Europe to train on the direct terrain, riding the Swiss Alps, getting the best support team assembled, having a sponsor with deep pockets…friends in the UCI…he was THE CHAMP.
I competed in the same era as Armstrong & I NEVER EVER even thought about doping. There were many like me in those days & yet we knew we were competing against cheats. Imagine how it felt for us clean riders? It was sickening & sole destroying. Lance & other dopers had a choice, they chose wrong & so they'll always be cheats in the eyes of their competitors. It was them who made it an uneven playing field & made cycling the drug reputation it got. Us clean riders were cheated & so was the sport. For anyone thinking for a second everyone was doping back then or even now, you've no idea how wrong you are...& it hurts to the very core the respectful & principled clean riders, that you think so. Please consider such riders in your thoughts & blasting comments.
dude just bcuz u were in ur towns bike-a-thon, doesn't mean you're in any way comparable to armstrong lmao. every guy in the tour de france is doping. everyone anywhere near the top of any sport is doping. you were never anywhere near their league, so he didn't cheat you "clean guys"
@@johnwest7993 What is the incentive for cheaters or criminals to atone for their sins if there is no hope for restitution? If outlaws do the right thing by coming forward and serving their time, then society, too, should do the right thing by letting them back in the fold
Lance trying to polish his image, no matter how sincere, doesn’t change the fact he was the worst cheater ever and the fact he acted like a horrible person.
Lance attacked Greg Lemond and had Trek drop Lemond bikes. At the time I started believing that Greg was actually jealous. Until the VO2 max was pointed out, Lance was nothing close to Hinault's and Lemond's VO2 max. Until now I refuse to buy Trek bikes because of how they treated Lemond. I do agree with Lance though, that as a doper he did beat other dopers, Riis, Ulrich, Pantani, and so on.... So in a way, the playing field was even. Unlike Indurain, who was never a GC rider, suddenly started beating Fignon and Lemond. I hate Indurain more than Lance. And as big of an ass Lance is, I do have his autographed next to Lemond's and Hinault's on my wall.
Lance Armstrong almost by himself made the entire cycling world oust cycling legend Greg LeMond with the amount of distancing and covering up he led to cover up his tracks. I get Lance was trying to salvage his career but man he completely ruined the credibility and likeliness of his idol.
You can't cheat against brain, lung, and testicular cancer. He gave hope and inspiration to many cancer victims. People are so fickle, most cyclists were doping during that time.
It doesn't matter if NEARY all were cheating, (they weren't.) As a former clean pro rider friend of mine who used to ride against Armstrong explained to me, if even ONE rider in a race is clean, that makes cheats out of every single doper.
@@johnwest7993 You're right, cheating is cheating, and I don't support it in any way. But like I said, you can't cheat brain, lung and testicular cancer. He gave hope to lots of people, not just cancer patients. Sure when he was exposed many people were crushed with disappointment. But at the end of the day many people also overcame their struggles because his story motivated them to keep fighting. He is proof that it's possible to beat the unbeatable. In my humble opinion, playing a small part in saving even one life is greater than winning a bicycle race. By the way sorry for your friend who was a clean rider. Good for him sticking to his morals. That too I would say is more important than winning a bike race.
@ 6:26 according to Lance in his own words, He was not looking at Ulrich, He was looking behind Ulrich to see how many riders were left and who else was close to him in the overall.
When Lance was there the tour was sooooo exciting... he was simply the best... 7 years straight,.. everyone else doping...and 7 years straight.. he could talk and walk.. he could do everything...absolutely amazing....
You left out the fact that his testicular cancer was the result of the abuse of performance enhancing drugs - Ivan Basso is an example and several others blatantly abused the drugs. He is the worst example of what an athlete should be.
Nope, you're wrong, you couldn't be more wrong. Overall he helped millions of people get on their bikes, not only that, he increased the bike industry by huge margins, no one in the history of cycling has done so much for the sport.
Yes, so his «miracle» recovery from cancer was just the fact that he stopped using the drugs for a while…he was just the worst cheat in history from the very beginning😂
@@uberkloden of course ferrari would never had called it doping or lead to believe it was , it was nutrient enrichment or some other derision of the truth
Hahahha…”screwed you”? In what way did Lance’s action do harm to you, directly or indirectly? For me, he screwed me by getting caught. (Because of his success) We had races, tv coverage, and cycling became cool. After he got caught, we have spiraled back into relative obscurity and considered a dirty sport.
As sad and shameful as his story is, the reality is that he made Trek Bicycles what it is today. The other sponsorships like Nike and Oakley were already big players but Trek was a different story....
trek may be big in your parts of the world but its just another bike brand here in NZ...nothing special about it. everyone knows of nike and oakley....ask them name a bike brand...they'll be stumped.
Trek also bought up original, unique and big names and destroyed them. Klein, Bontrager, LeMond, Gary Fisher and other smaller brands were liquidated by Trek. Ironic that they're now owned by Dorel, no, wait, Pon, nope, it's Roth Distributing, still wrong, now INTREPID owns them. Who are they??? Friends don't let friends ride a tRek.
gee, after only he was stripped of his wins, why did the UCI not award them to other riders, what was in other lab tests? Your criticism lacks perspective.
No, they don't "all dope." That's a pathetic excuse. I have a friend who used to be a pro rider who rode against Armstrong. My friend was one of many clean riders. As he pointed out, it only takes one clean rider in a race to turn every doper in the race into a cheater.
@@johnwest7993 That's true, and commendable of your friend. Unfortunately, with the drive for competition and the nature of our system and sketchy doping agency loopholes, it's almost impossible for a natural athlete to compete at the very top. Ironically, the very best who want to win essentially have to cheat. As an example, a natural bodybuilder winning Mr Olympia is never going to happen, even if they are the greatest natural bodybuilder of all time.
@@insinty his case demonstrates that cheaters actually prosper. Cheat 150 million and give back 100 million. Anyone would take that deal. If he ended up in jail for life time then i could say no matter how much money he made, he in the end couldn't use. But as it stands cheaters prosper.
People saying “Everyone else was doing it too” completely miss the point. If it wasn’t a big deal Lance was cheating, why did he ruin the reputations or threaten the livelihoods of anyone who tried to expose his cheating?
Lance Armstrong didn't bring drugs into cycling they were there when he got there all the top cyclist used them and probably they all did. One of the riders who won 2nd place refused the trophy and said he was proud of getting second place. In other words Lance won them all fair and square
Its not human to win 7 years straight, and even his doped up competitors did not think it was fair that his doping allowed him to dominate the sport. Now he becomes the poster boy for why you shouldn't cheat by doping in competition. That he forced the ITA to purge its corrupt practices and become harder to fool, and for the sport to recognize the problem of doping, was more important than his attracting attention to the sport.
The fact that he bullied teammates and retired cyclists. Filed lawsuits and cheats at the same time. Shows his character. Lance is the definition of a cheater and doper. What a legend....one of a kind. Definitely a top caliber douchebag.
That not a single rider has ever come forward and asked for one of his jerseys tells you all you need to know about the era. Armstrong was/is the greatest Tour rider ever, fact.
It was Lance's bitter attacks on those that accused him of doping that saw him despised by many in the the cycling fraternity, not that he doped per say. He viciously threatened to drag these people (who were telling the truth) off to court, when everyone knew he was a doper. He is no hero to me.
For those wondering what he's upto today, he's making shows about awful it is that trans athletes are effectively 'cheating' in womens sports and how awful it is to be cancelled for saying 'cheating' is happening.
I mean, he is obviously right that biological males competing against biological females is in no way a leveled playing field, but that he uses this fact to legitimize his own cheating, is pretty disgusting.
Should have been titled "Rise, fall and resurrection" Lance has come a long way since his admission on Oprah. Lance is human, as we all are, and thus deserving of grace. Go Lance, go ♥️🙏🏽
I have a friend who is a former pro rider who always rode clean. He used to ride against Armstrong. Armstrong deserves nothing. He cheated against clean riders. He did it for money, millions of dollars. And he forced others to cheat, too. And he destroyed the lives of honest people who told the world the truth of Armstrong's cheating. It sickens me that you can respect someone like that.
@@johnwest7993 You're wasting your time John. I agree with all you're posting. But it's like trying to convert peoples religious or political beliefs. I was a Lance fan (to be honest, I was always a Sean Yates fan and as such was a Motorola supporter before Lance joined the team). The only thing I can admire Armstrong for is his freakish genetic ability (though in testing he was on a fairly level playing field against other pros when it came to natural haematocrit levels) and his drive (though this seems to have come from largely sociopathic tendencies rather than a strong sense of sportsmanship). He's a difficult guy to like (the feeling was the same among the pro ranks). He will never fail to have loyal fans, though I'm not ignorant enough to now be one of them. Ignorance, as they say, is bliss.....
Lance even dumped his girlfriend (Sheryl Crow) after she got breast cancer. Among all his other despicable traits, he is even heartless towards the women in his life!
So many people defending an absolutely horrible person and the worst cheater ever. First of all, not everyone was doping in that period. Secondly, winning because you have the best dope is still cheating.
Not everyone was doping in that period? Are you kidding? Have you listened to interviews? They all knew everyone was doping. Landis said so in his interview. So far as your claim that Lance had the "best dope" something you probably don't know is all those guys get tested for their Hematocrit levels(Level of red blood cells). Anything over 50 is considered suspicious. They all try to get as close to 50 as possible so he couldn't have had an advantage over anyone else.
This was all a well constructed story line that everyone was involved in, however when Lance's head got to big they had to cut him loose! They were all involved people, Lance however was the easiest fall guy based on his attitude and behavior towards the end. This was definitely written by someone at Disney, it was the perfect feel good situation, everyone likes the hero and the villian.
You couldn't have said it any better, I've been saying the same thing as you for years now. Everyone loves a good happy ending, an ending where the villain goes down in flames and everyone cheers lol. Lance Armstrong did nothing wrong in terms of his doping program and winning all the time, but the sport had to make an example out of him to make people believe that the sport is trying to be clean lol. Lets just say that if Lance only wins the Tour 3 or 4 times, instead of 7, I bet my life that they would have left him alone and just allowed him to enjoy his retirement and rest of his life. To me it's so silly and hypocritical that they attacked him, they only attacked him because he just kept winning and never stopped. I also know for a fact that the reason Greg LeMond never liked Armstrong, is because Greg was jealous that Lance took over as the most famous and the best American Cyclist in history, and Greg was angry that people were forgetting about him. It's all about ego, and people were jealous of what Lance was doing.
@@justinexplainseverything1554 couldn't have said it any better! 👏 Lets be honest, all sporting athletes and teams look for an edge, the sporting bodies even know this. I would even go as far as saying Lance clean would have won at least 4-5, his training and mindset were upper level.
They all did it, the ones who won and they were pressured by their investors. They picked him out: 1. Because a lot of people didn't like him 2. Because they wanted to make example out of him. 3. Unknown political reasons or financial reasons related to the sport as a whole.
The truth will always ’out’ and stand forever in the end. It’s like an irresistible life force. Lies will inevitably collapse because they effectively aren’t ’real’ and cannot sustain themselves indefinitely.
@@johnmainwaring6556That's right the truth is that most of the top riders did it. Also the doping problem continues in Cycling and many other sport where there's lots of $$ and fame at stake. We all have a fallen nature.
Isn't anyone sick and tired of listening about this bull crap already? I mean, hasn't everyone figured out yet that everyone is doing what he was doing? Let's ask the question why he was made an example. That's what everyone should be concerned about.
@@anthonylarson7919 Please name the people whose lives were "ruined"? Please describe this so called "ruin"??? For fun?.........Do you mean to protect his image?
@@billkallas1762 Frankie and Betsey Andreau....Emma O'Rielly...Greg LeMond...Christophe Brassons...for a start. LA is a first ballot hall of fame POS. If one even considers otherwise, they need to make some better life choices. IMHO.
was better at it~ the top 30 riders of ANY year (YES…Gregg L as well…c’mon Stage 17 of his second win??? came back from a massive deficit and won??…and he said NOPE 2 DOPE???….nope don’t believe it.)
@Esteban de las montañas as well but Lance was very bad too and the star of the times (Festina killed it too and it doesn't put LA away from his responsibility)
