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Land Rover Defender 2020 Front Bumper Winch Installation - Part 2 

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@deltafoxtrot2
@deltafoxtrot2 3 года назад
Great video, very clear and concise, I can see JLR making your videos a workshop reference for their dealerships of "how to install a Defender winch without damaging the loom".. :-)
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Well i just got to the part where the JLR instructions tell me to damage the loom... and you think I am joking !
@deltafoxtrot2
@deltafoxtrot2 3 года назад
@@L663 Good luck! no pressure... :-)
@brianphelan74
@brianphelan74 3 года назад
Really enjoying the longer videos. Better to over engineer than under engineer . What i like about your videos is that you are showing as a layman and not a so called professional. You show your mistakes which anyone can do. Which greatly helps when someone comes to fit their own winch. As an engineer ( now retired ) I find it interesting how people interpret instruction . Distinguishing left and right for instance. Simple eh. But is it as you look at the car or if you are sitting in the car. Your suggestions for improvement are valid and I do hope Land Rover take it onboard. Keep the videos coming and good luck.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Thanks for the comments
@chrispig7748
@chrispig7748 3 года назад
Shows how complex modern cars are and the engineering that goes into them. Love the videos thanks
@beto12345
@beto12345 3 года назад
You are doing way better and more job than any dealer right now as far as i know, brave thing beacause apart of the car to be "new", the try and catch (sucess - errors) you are really good, and show us more than I can even imagined.
@mikeclark4416
@mikeclark4416 3 года назад
The Workshops of JLR must be watching you demonstrate how to fit a Winch right now . - No Pressure Simon
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Hi Mike... is starting to get more tricky now... JLR are telling me to cut connectors off the loom and cut wires in the fusebox..... seems crazy so my have to design my own method.... studying the wiring diagrams tonight "for fun"
@mikeclark4416
@mikeclark4416 3 года назад
@@L663 Do you think thats what happened to Denver JLR ? - Cutting the wrong bits off ? . This is really interesting to watch
@alanottley
@alanottley 3 года назад
Well done! I must agree with you on the engineering of the kit - that is one heavy duty unit. Looking forward to tomorrow!
@stevenmoran4060
@stevenmoran4060 3 года назад
Another great video. Although you have removed the flaps the cleaning problem will still be present for those who do not fit a winch so your idea of a cleaning mode via the app would be a very good thing. Looking forward to tomorrow’s episode!
@chrisarnold4709
@chrisarnold4709 3 года назад
Colouring with Simon - love it! This is becoming my favourite entertainment 😀 I am also amazed at how your ideas flow just from looking at one part!
@HQBProductions
@HQBProductions 3 года назад
Phew!!!...What a job but then Simon, your bursting enthusiasm carries you and Tylor through all the obstacles...but tomorrow...does the loom..loom?? Worrying stuff..if something goes POP is Mr Skywalker ready to provide STIG 2??? It’s a cliffhanger!...rest well...tomorrow is a challenging day!!! Good work men!!😀😀😀😀😀Richard.
@kevinthorns6238
@kevinthorns6238 3 года назад
Well done. Alot more effort than putting a winch on an old landy
@jvd8698
@jvd8698 3 года назад
The Loom Angels have been kept at bay yet another day!
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Angels.... its the demons i am worried about
@christopherlamb9838
@christopherlamb9838 3 года назад
I have been kept on tenterhooks by the looming doom of a blooming loom error...
@AlbertoLozadaC
@AlbertoLozadaC 3 года назад
#tfl you should probably send this to your LR dealer
@manx1630
@manx1630 3 года назад
Thank You very much, You are making me feel like a kid ,again, in front of a Meccano made in Liverpool. Well Done.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@markarmstrong6176
@markarmstrong6176 3 года назад
Great video, when I was serving my apprenticeship I was told always torque the nut in a nut and bolt fixing, as it was more accurate.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes that is true...otherwise part of the torque is the friction on the bolt turning !
@johnwillett4086
@johnwillett4086 3 года назад
Excellent videos - thanks. Notes as I watch - you will STILL need the open-flap option for vehicles without a winch, so they can pressure clean it properly. So PLEASE still ask Mr. Skywalker for this. I am surprised that JLR dont supply a pre-cut L633-W as part of the winch kit - especially as there is precision cutting involved - it would also save a lot of time for the dealer for a dealer fit (saving probably bore in time than the L633-W would cost). Your microphone problem ..... this is my area of expertise - make a small loop in the cable and trap it behind the mic. clip - this will decouple the cable from the microphone and prevent the rustling noises from the cable getting to the microphone (this is what all the broadcast sound engineers do when fitting people with a radiomic.) - I hope this helps. Great - now I wait for the next video.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Hi John - i think the Mic was rubbing on my unshaven chin so i moved it down my shirt. What do you think of the new camera / mic... ? Thanks for the tip !
@johnwillett4086
@johnwillett4086 3 года назад
@@L663 Sounds good and keeps you on mic. - but misses what Tyler says, of course.
@bdhogg
@bdhogg 3 года назад
Simon - really enjoy your videos, especially as I am a 2020 Defender owner too however, for the love of god ... get a workbench solid wooden table instead of that glass number. I'm just waiting for the day something goes straight through it!!! Keep up the great work!
@kevinwyatt9771
@kevinwyatt9771 3 года назад
me too! kersh!!!
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes its just a matter of time - in the defence of my super glass tables... there are 2 of them... they do give a sort of back lighting when i have parts on them making the parts on the table easier to see.
@paulmcgrath3159
@paulmcgrath3159 3 года назад
Can see how JLR can justify the price of these now, they do look plenty skookum and a nice looking kit. No way could I have a dealer fit it though that would be all the fun! Loving watching these can’t wait for the next one!!
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Hi Reece its looking good and so far not too tricky... try and get the last part done today...
@GuyLangevin
@GuyLangevin 3 года назад
Good call on the L &R on the crash cans, I was going to ask if that was looking at vehicle or from vehicle.
@martinhawkes2823
@martinhawkes2823 3 года назад
I think the last winch i fitted to a series 3 took about 40mts all wired up, this look's a total ball ache, can only imagine the time/expence if you wanted bull bar's/diff guards/rock sliders fitted, plus the fact the warrantee would of run out by the time you'd finished doing it😤.!!
@jamieklb
@jamieklb 3 года назад
Copper grease isn’t the best thing for aluminium due to galvanic corrosion. I’d recommend using molybdenum paste instead. Great vids by the way, I’m locked in a hotel room in Angola for 2 weeks quarantine so I’m watching them all back to back.
@stephenr6427
@stephenr6427 3 года назад
Lads another great video much appreciated and thanks for stopping the ads not many people will do that can't wait to see how it looks
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes I could actually do a whole video on the subject of ads on RU-vid... I wanted to have no adverts as we run a business selling parts and this should be our focus but RU-vid did not promote my videos when i had no adverts... I switch ads on for a trial and our exposure doubled overnight, so it makes sense to have the adverts... but we have to opt out of the midroll adverts every time after upload...
@adamknight6752
@adamknight6752 3 года назад
I pay for youtube premium, no ads ever. Never looked back! !
@stephenr6427
@stephenr6427 3 года назад
@@adamknight6752 I can't afford it at the moment
@jhwalter968
@jhwalter968 3 года назад
I'm really enjoying your videos - the new camera is working very well. I've got a white P300 110 S over here in the Southeastern USA so I'm following your adventures closely.
@davedyer3654
@davedyer3654 3 года назад
I hope you didn't damage the loom, the TFL Defender was damaged beyond repair by a dealer in Colorado
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
If you listen carefully there are some loom comments added in to our discussions..
@paulgeaton
@paulgeaton 3 года назад
I think he knows already, he sort of mentioned it in Part 1.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 3 года назад
@@L663 I wonder whether the American dealer did actually cut through a loom or whether they are using it as an excuse to cover for another major fault, like another 'check engine' warning light or dead infotainment system, like they had on the first one? I just can't see how or why they would cut a loom from your very detailed video.
@elliot330
@elliot330 3 года назад
@@hedydd2 After watching Simon fit this kit, I am wondering the same, there is no cutting on the body that we've seen yet. Maybe the wiring of the winch will reveal all?
@mvirdi2333
@mvirdi2333 3 года назад
Hi 🙋‍♂️ good 😌 hard working I enjoyed this 2nd part as well you have done ✅ really good step by step for people to get a chance to upgrade without going to garage. Thanks 🙏 🙏
@patrickgriffin7987
@patrickgriffin7987 3 года назад
Great videos guys- how many hours do you think a shop should take to complete this job? I am taking mine in soon for the install. Also, did you ever get an answer from LR about what part numbers are needed- The only part number that comes up for a search of Winch Mounting Kit is VPLEP0427? Thanks!
@1thehandyvan
@1thehandyvan 3 года назад
If Land Rover were any good the front of the vehicle would be all ready from the factory for a winch so you could plug and play
@ianwynn9962
@ianwynn9962 3 года назад
Great video guys, looking forward to the next exciting instalment
@cdelaine
@cdelaine 3 года назад
How much would a dealer charge to do this. The Jeep dealer charges like $300 to do a winch install.
@jorgeguilherme
@jorgeguilherme 3 года назад
Another excellent vídeo. All the explanation is just superb. Very well done 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@adamknight6752
@adamknight6752 3 года назад
Any luck with the new camera frame rate boys? 1080p 60? Great videos.... More Disco 3/4 x
@MrPutman
@MrPutman 3 года назад
Andrew from 4xOverland youtube calling you from AUS about the winch fitting...
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
No Sir.. its was the guy from NewDefenderMods on instagram !
@sjw811
@sjw811 3 года назад
😂
@nickjennings8317
@nickjennings8317 3 года назад
Great video guys. It would be handy to know the hole pattern dimensions for the winch mount so that alternative winch units might be fitted please. I do want to fit a winch to mine Defender but would never have a Warn Winch. Cheers Non Stick Nick.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Hi Nick - hope you are doing OK..I can check that for you no problem.
@robholloway5935
@robholloway5935 3 года назад
Excellent guys, looking forward to the next instalment cheers 😁
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
One will be along shortly.... but it could turn into several episodes
@robholloway5935
@robholloway5935 3 года назад
@@L663 more the merrier Simon/ Tyler/ George 😀😎
@darrenrobinson781
@darrenrobinson781 3 года назад
Good work chaps... Really coming together and looking very robust.. Will be interested in how much the winch kit would be to purchase from landrover, plus how much they quote to fit it vs do it your self.. I.e hours, hassle and saving. Could you add this into the last vid of this series please Simon..
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes good idea ... I will get onto this now..
@darrenrobinson781
@darrenrobinson781 3 года назад
@@L663 Brilliant, thanks v.much
@rjl110919581
@rjl110919581 3 года назад
wow wow what job put a winch in new land rover defender 2020 what got do fit bullbar on the front?
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
It is much the same as this..
@gordonbarclay6106
@gordonbarclay6106 3 года назад
Need to beef up the front suspension to take all the extra weight. Or will the air bags be able to cope with it.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
I am guessing the airbag will take it / adjust pressure etc... but its a good point..on the coil spung one you need to change the springs..
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
We are rolling out the "Barclay Hinge" on the templates !
@gordonbarclay6106
@gordonbarclay6106 3 года назад
@@L663 superb glad to help.
@gordonbarclay6106
@gordonbarclay6106 3 года назад
@@L663 That's great what the chances of seeing it in action. Or even a picture of it.
@ChukIGek1
@ChukIGek1 3 года назад
Thank you for your videos! LR requires the cooling active grille to be striped down when installing the winch, however I see you did not do it. Any reason behind it?
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
There are 2 active grilles - the lower one which needs to be removed and the upper one which can remain
@ChukIGek1
@ChukIGek1 3 года назад
@@L663 so you removed the lower one only, correct?
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
@@ChukIGek1 Yes correct.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 3 года назад
A powered hacksaw like the Milwaukee Hackzall would make short work of any panel cutting, any metal sheets or bars and wood of all kinds. Just as good as that tool shown but more versatile.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
An excuse to buy more power tools.. excellent !
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 3 года назад
@@L663 I find I use it almost as much as a drill. If you have a battery system already, that brand might have a similar saw. But the Milwaukee 18V is the best ;-)
@4fourjaw
@4fourjaw 3 года назад
Hi guys, I wonder if those front "flaps" or louvers are there to help with wading through water? Ask your friend from landrover.....
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Well when we went through the water they clearly stayed open as i guess that is how all the mud got there !
@timstanton1314
@timstanton1314 3 года назад
OMG I'm the first to comment!!!!! Gosh I don't know what to say.....errrr... love your videos. Managed to 44mpg from my 2.0 deisel 2020 defender today on a motorway run. But school runs are awful...I wonder if that can be improved?
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Hi 44 MPG has got to be good... I need to get some mileage on mine but poor old STIG has either been in being repaired or pulled apart over the last few weeks !
@timstanton1314
@timstanton1314 3 года назад
Hi, that was the best ever mpg. On just daily run around it’s averaging 28mpg and I’m driving like my grandma definitely worth looking in to how it can be improved 😪 still love it though!
@rachad66
@rachad66 3 года назад
it's good they didn't complicate things
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes all nice and simple...
@sodbury6426
@sodbury6426 3 года назад
A little anti-seize grease on all the nuts/bolts would be useful - I hope JLR watch your videos and learn :)
@sodbury6426
@sodbury6426 3 года назад
later you got it...
@johnspear3452
@johnspear3452 3 года назад
You shouldn't put copper grease on aluminium, dissimilar metals, effectively creating a battery. Electrolytic corrosion. If you wish you put something on there a weak thread lock will create an isolation barrier.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Interesting point... but the inserts that had the threads in the aluminium cans were steel so we are OK but its a good point to make... although i am not sure the copper and ally would be an issue... steel and ally probably more of an issue ?
@mattsewell8949
@mattsewell8949 3 года назад
@@L663 I really enjoy your videos so keep them coming but does your mechanical engineering qualification help with the point that you should change the torque when doing up bolts with anti seize on? People seem to have opposite strong opinions on that!
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
@@mattsewell8949 So here are my thoughts...anti seize will reduce friction... yes... but friction only happens when you have movement... when the final torque is reached the nut is not really spinning or moving so there is no real impact of friction on the torque setting..... Simon J BEng CEng Eur Ing MiMechE...
@rayanderson921
@rayanderson921 3 года назад
Well done, its looking good
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Thanks - I know you guys are wishing us on....
@Defender3d
@Defender3d 3 года назад
Love it! Well done guys.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
I think it will be a 5 part series...
@Defender3d
@Defender3d 3 года назад
@@L663 all the more enjoyable! Don't let us down, this is for Queen and Country Simon! 🤣🤣🤣
@southernboi21
@southernboi21 3 года назад
Does it not say “missing” in green marker on the package ?
@robertsegura6451
@robertsegura6451 3 года назад
Wait, are all winch installations this involved, and can you install an aftermarket winch that's not from LR, will it even fit?
@martinhawkes2823
@martinhawkes2823 3 года назад
Now,now, you really must believe in miracles, do you really expect land rover to let you fit an aftermarket product that (actually work's) lol, for probably half the price without them having the privalidge of screwing you for a king's ransom and after watching this video hopefully be able to fit it without turning your truck into a right off😂,if i was you I'd keep the winch and run from the car, probably easier to bolt it to the space shuttle😂.!!
@JohnDoe-ef4fm
@JohnDoe-ef4fm 3 года назад
TFL should watch these tutorials :)
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Or their dealer.... but its getting more tricky......
@chrislant4829
@chrislant4829 3 года назад
Suppose easiest rad clean would be to do it when engine is warm and flaps open ?
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes i need to study when the flaps open / close a little more.. someone had a good idea of putting the aircon on.. that may force the flaps open..
@NigelsModellingBench
@NigelsModellingBench 3 года назад
Ford USA even put L + R on their front fenders!!
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 3 года назад
😂
@rogerwilkin9220
@rogerwilkin9220 3 года назад
Which is the right hand side and which is the left hand side as you face the front of the car. Is the right hand side the same as the off side and the near side the same as the left
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes i messed this up....LH should always be the nearside... and RH offside...
@MrTnsLvr
@MrTnsLvr 3 года назад
at 26:17 - I see the Disco 3 sagging close to the floor. Is that what happens when the air suspension 'deflates'? does it fill up again when you start the car?
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes the D3 has been left to one side as we have had to reduce workshop staff to just the 2 of us ( trying to reduce risk of covid etc ). She will re-inflate when we start her again !
@gadgetphilosophy8290
@gadgetphilosophy8290 3 года назад
Legend
@nickkrueger2804
@nickkrueger2804 3 года назад
Why no really discovery videos ?
@christopherlamb9838
@christopherlamb9838 3 года назад
You labelled the brackets L and R. I guess L is for Land, and R is for Rover. Otherwise why would you offer up the one labelled R to the left-hand-side of the vehicle at 15:24? 8-) Ok at 33:43 you try and wiggle-out, but I am not convinced 8-)
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
I messed up !
@TechnikMeister2
@TechnikMeister2 3 года назад
JRA will not be offering the winch on Australian delvered vehicles....one of the worlds biggest markets for proper off road vehicles. Why you may ask? Its becuase the front airbags will not work with one fitted. You have been warned. That prevents it from being registered. Its a stuff up of epic proportions.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
No offense but who are JRA ?
@TechnikMeister2
@TechnikMeister2 3 года назад
@@L663 Jaguar Rover Australia...the distributor.
@Dilworth-vj9nj
@Dilworth-vj9nj 3 года назад
So much plastic in the front makes me want to wait until there is an aftermarket steel bumper before buying a new Defender
@GutoFontana
@GutoFontana 3 года назад
not to mention the underbody….
@FJUH
@FJUH 3 года назад
You’ll be waiting. ARB, TJM, Ironman, etc have no plans to make anything for the Defender. They have nothing specific for the rest of the LR range either so I can’t see them producing anything. The complexity of design and the potential profit from smaller sales means it won’t take off.
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Keep an eye on newdefendermods instagram
@Dilworth-vj9nj
@Dilworth-vj9nj 3 года назад
@@FJUH The guys at Lucky 8 are working with someone to create one. They already have a prototype of a ladder for the rear door.
@Mr_Cruisin
@Mr_Cruisin 3 года назад
To put a winch on my landcruiser took 1 and a half hours and 4 bolts.......
@harveysmith100
@harveysmith100 3 года назад
So you must have stopped for a cup of tea then?
@Mr_Cruisin
@Mr_Cruisin 3 года назад
@@harveysmith100 Haha, nah first time on my own. And a beer or two
@simoncasis1
@simoncasis1 3 года назад
@@Mr_Cruisin s%żż
@nnoddy8161
@nnoddy8161 3 года назад
Sorry, but this is seriously too bloody hard. It is meant to go offroad! It is only a winch for God's sake. How are ARB/TJM or any independent 4WD shop going to be able to fit a bullbar and a winch to this thing?
@FJUH
@FJUH 3 года назад
They’re not. None of them have any plans to make anything specific for the Defender, they don’t have anything for the rest of the LR range either. LR have made a car that is excellent off road rather than a 4wd that is excellent on road. It is going to be difficult and expensive to customise this vehicle for off road use.
@Phos9
@Phos9 3 года назад
The car might have a car wash mode, it might do something about the flaps
@justinhowarth9211
@justinhowarth9211 3 года назад
Should have marked them n/s and o/s 🤭
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
Yes indeed !
@Justkevin377
@Justkevin377 3 года назад
The statue in back is freaking me out
@TheDarrenc1973
@TheDarrenc1973 3 года назад
In the true spirit of Land Rover ownership I'm all for giving it a go.... but.... any idea what a main dealer would charge to fit this 😂😂😂😂
@chrisarnold4709
@chrisarnold4709 3 года назад
An effing fortune.....
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
I am sure it would be a "a snip" at the price.... loom joke !
@stephenhepworth3393
@stephenhepworth3393 3 года назад
WINCHES Remote Control Electric Winch (1) VPLEP0426 £3,162 Winch Mounting Kit (1) (2) Air Suspension VPLEWMT001 £2,412 Winch Accessory Kit STC53202 £352 Prices for supply and fit according to JLR accessories brochure. Don't know if there is a difference between standard coil or air suspension but would doubt it. So unless you are a serious off roader with spare ££££££ you wont be asking your local dealership to fit it.
@thiscocks
@thiscocks 3 года назад
@@stephenhepworth3393 coil is more as you have to change the front springs.
@josepinto9093
@josepinto9093 2 года назад
Coño quiero escuchar el video con la traduccion en ESPAÑOL
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 3 года назад
I want fully exposed metal radiator flaps, instead of the grill 😂
@L663
@L663 3 года назад
I see where you are going... an active grille !
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 3 года назад
@@L663 Yea, like o moving version of the older Defender grill finns... but less flimsy. Been waiting to do it on my series but the grill scape is a bit to complex.
@rustandoil
@rustandoil 3 года назад
I suggest that you don't buy a left hand drive car..... 😉
@underthelibertytree712
@underthelibertytree712 3 года назад
Dear Lord, send Land Rover some engineers with common sense and a belief in Keep It Simple Stupid! I can install a winch in a couple of hours on a Jeep Wrangler. The Defender is so ridiculously over engineered it is nearly impossible to work on.
@alantd44
@alantd44 3 года назад
It also scores 1 star in crash test ratings. I’m guessing LR didn’t make this complicated for the sake of it - not least because it’d cost them more to manufacture. Old Defender and Wrangler definitely much simpler to work on (and more satisfying) but they have their limitations WRT modern standards.
@sjorsboomschors7165
@sjorsboomschors7165 3 года назад
Fuck my life this was hard to watch. This bloke has a face for the radio and a voice for the news paper.
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