I’ve owned a disco from new with ACE and apart from a bolt on the pump coming loose after about 5 years it’s been faultless! Even the suspension drop links lasted for 170,000 miles and I’ve only just replaced them all again after the first set I fitted were rather crap in quality! It really does make the car feel planted on the road and makes it much safer.
Back in 2002 I had a Disco 2 as a company car and the ACE failed on a sweeping motorway bend, at 70mph, and I ended up veering across all 3 lanes and barely avoided hitting the central armco barrier. Made me SERIOUSLY concerned about ACE. Bought a Disco 2 of my own in 2008 and promised myself that I'd remove the ACE and replace it with normal ARBs. Here we are, in 2021, and I still haven't quite got around to it yet. I guess ACE isn't that bad after all. ;-)
you can tell land cruier owners are obsessed with land rovers. They are always in the comment section of every land rover video, but no land rover owner is on a land cruiser comment section xD
I owned a 2000 D2 for many years, and I had a very good experience overall. Mine did not have the ACE suspension, but it still out-handled pretty much every other SUV, and its overall abilities were incredible.
Indeed. There is an information video on this very channel about it (I think). Pretty nifty system. There is a sensor in the roof, and suspension actively counteracts any roll being sensed. Only available as of the D2. The D1 didn't have it.
@@mcmcolm I don’t think the model of D2 they’re using is a correct representation of the UK standard spec. It’s a face lifted model and appears to be the base model E spec which I have myself. A 5 seater with unpainted bumper (no other model had this), no roof rails or sunroofs or wheel arch mouldings etc. This model was not available with rear air suspension or ACE. On coil springs without ACE it rolls like you’d expect a top heavy 4x4 to. I guess that silver Discovery may be a mixture of models straight from Land Rover. Bit naughty!
It's the same size as a Discovery. They all competed in the same class in Europe, US different story. X5 & ML not really intended for much off road use.
Don’t know about the X5, but the disco 2 with ACE is really good on road in terms of handling for a 20 year old car. The sistem keeps the car really flat, so easy to turn anf keep the speed. It’s not a beast brakingwise when you are “rallying” as in a small car, but not bad to say the truth. X5 should be better, as they had the discos and ranges under they ownership to know them and improve them. But in this video we only see cornering angles or stability, and I’m not surprised the disco keeps better angles to a point. Being faster would probably put tyres and center of gravity into the ecuation. The X5 would probably begin to outperform the disco, something completely understandable being a design 10 years newer…. Cheers
Wtf 😂 who thought putting an x3 and merc vs a d2 would be a good idea 😂 even putting that jeep against it was a bit optimistic 😂 I liked the down hill test though as the d2 is the only one with HDC 😂
I have an original 96 D1 and 2001 LC and the LC will last for 50 years and 500K there is no way the D1 will do the same - of course the LC was 2x the money new
Always amazes me how the soft roaders are competitors?! I know most of the time they are on road, but the merc and BMW (as today) are jokes off the tarmac. Additionally, it’s about the capability too, and again the German SAV’s are pretty hopeless The X5 - the looks of a 4x4, the capabilities of a 1 series 😂😂
I drive the X5 daily and I have to say I love it for what I use it for. Mostly driving around town, and dont care about any high pavements and other stuff. When I go to the forest i never have to worry that i will get stuck in the sand or mud (because it's not that extreme, but it would be for a normal car) so i think it is good depending on what you expect from it. Of course its not on a level of a Range Rover (or Land Rover) when it comes to off road, but the point of this car was to make an "SUV" thats more sporty and people who drive it wont take it off road
@@Mcmerc01 10/10 for humour 😂😂 On both the reliability front and off the tarmac capabilities - I mean if you go to an off road course you’ll never see an ML nor would you see one at any shoot or country event (unless it’s one of the beaters from town). Just saying.
@@Offensivebeast reliability sure, although the old series were a pretty simple dependable beast. Payload definitely not though. Defenders have much better payload than 70 series and handle it much better. Put so much as a brick in the back of a 79 and it’s dragging the arse on the ground lol
@@luke12689 TD5 always felt like it was running on 4 cylinders and the heads would crack not to mention the head gasket issues and other itty bitty problems but when they did work they were brilliant although they do need a tune in my opinion
@@Offensivebeast Fortunately TD5s are very responsive to tuning and you can get up to 240bhp with a good tune. You can also buy EGR delete kits to make the motors a bit more responsive - highly recommend.