Larry And Janet Move Out: a documentary about the Heygate Estate, Elephant and Castle 

I’m glad they are both doing well what a lovely couple

NICE PEOPLE

Are they Irish? Their very likable.

Pleased to hear it!

Hi, hope Nan and Grandad are doing well. Such a lovely. jolly, loving couple

Heart breaking, these people would have had Secure Lifetime Tenancies. It’s awful that this can happen!!

But the estate looked terrible before no amount of refurbishment could have made that place look better

@@ilovegot7754 people were living in it not looking at it

@@alexbartsch I LIVED IN IT, so please be quiet. I hate when ever I talk about this estate people instantly assume ad if I'm talking like an outsider, I moved to the new nice side of the estate but my mum still lives In the old part. Inside is horrible and falling apart, the building are infested in wvery house. So don't tell me about what I know

I lived in London for a decade but I left when I had kids and (like most people) recognised that it was unaffordable to buy a house, simple supply and demand, too many people wanting to live in a geographically small area. I moved further out because it was cheaper and I honestly don't understand why many people in London think that it's their 'human right' to get subsided housing in central London paid for by UK taxpayers across the rest of the country. Actually I find it offensive that I work hard, earn a good salary and pay a lot of tax, in part so that others can live in that same area for less per week than when I lived in County Durham. I think most people would support a change in the law that at least gave protection to people who had historic ties to an area. Except that a high proportion of these council estates are made up of people from overseas who were given the flats in the past 10-20 years. Electoral politics dictates that the left would rather lose the social housing war (but win re-election!) than do the right thing and defend the rights of the people who've lived on the estates - in many cases since birth.

@Calvin's.. You just don't bloody get it do you. What about those that have purchased their flat under the Right-To-Buy scheme? It's their very own property. It was taken away from them and in return they got offered 50% of what the newer flats were costing which were starting at half a million (or more). Those that are/were council tenants were promised like-for-like. The idea of regeneration (or so people are led to believe), is to knock down the old buildings and replace with new thus re-housing the original tenants in those new buildings. Only the rich can live in London now. Social cleansing!!!! Just because you moved out of London doesn't mean you should feel justified in not letting existing tenants who already live there remain. Your situation was different. Many of them are elderly, many of them have kids who are settled in school e.t.c. Their world has been turned upside down for the sake of money grabbing oligarchs.

I get that entirely, perhaps if Labour had made a point of sticking up for long term or right-to-buy residents then things might have worked out differently but they persisted with an argument that everyone was the same and that there'd be oodles of cheap housing if only it weren't for the evil tories; it makes more political sense to appeal to the financially illiterate. The only ways you can reduce London property prices to what they were 30 years ago are [1] reduce 30 years of migration and remove the extra people that have moved to London since the 80s or [2] increase supply by about a million flats by leveling vast swathes of London and constructing about a thousand high-rise tower blocks.

I was born and grew up in that area 64 years ago Calvin. I enjoyed your post. That Estate and The Aylesbury next door formed the ( then ) largest housing estate in Europe in the late 1960's and our terraced houses were demolished , ironically, to build thee damned estates. What destroyed Inner London was the Council's change of Policy from " Sons/Daughters" to Homeless as , by definition, almost everyone from overseas were deemed " homeless" so The Jamaicans etc back in the 1970's- got priority and to seal the deal the other new priority was becoming pregnant and so many uneducated young girls killed 3 birds with one stone. Having a child meant a Council roof over their heads for life and an income from the Govt and a Career as a Homemaker so by 1983 I new I had no chance and like most South-East Londoners I moved to the very edge of London and Kent. It has been a wonderful 35 years ( 9/5 ) next week but I DESPERATELY miss that old Community spirit and i lived over a very busy market with endless people on my doorstep every day. I miss the hustle and bustle terribly but next week is my final mortgage payment :)

Only the very rich and the very poor can live in London. Most people, who are in between, aren't able to live there.

If you think owning your own home is safety and won't get you kicked out, you need to learn about compulsory purchase orders.

@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 For the majority of people that will never happen.

@@starquant In NY State they tax you out of your "home". If you fall behind in your real estate taxes they penalize you with interest and eventually they will auction off your "home" so, in essence you own nothing you always pay rent to the government, most of that is essentially your forced tithe to the school district which in essence is from the school teacher union which then uses forced dues to fund the politicians who make the laws, and of course pay the union higher ups, so you are a serf. Your real estate taxes have nothing to do with your income, savings, or ability to pay. The remaining 1/3 of your forced rent goes to the county budget where much of the same circular funding of corrupt politicians also takes place. Essentially in NY State there is one political party at all state levels of government and that one party is controlled by public employee unions, There are 2 private sector jobs in NY State for every government job. So, 2 people essentially pay for each government job and all welfare services. The leadership of NY State is exceedingly corrupt. The giant part of the majority of the state budget is derived from taxes on Wall Street in one form or another. Without Wall Street the entire State budget would collapse. Industry was driven out of the state long ago. Deliberate policies did that.

All I can say is unless you have paid a mortgage right off the bank owns your property. Don't lose a job or get ill or disabled then you should be okay.

@@johnjon1823 On going property taxes are a hassle. In Australia, they're known as rates and yes they are expensive.

We were treated really badly and the initial regeneration team were awful!

Jackyblue67 Same you get up there that is all you have is each other and more often than not it's your spouse most children go their own way and you only see them on holidays or if they need something. I never lived in these places but they were around when they were new in the late 60s and early 70s when I was a child one of the best times of my life. Sense both my parents are dead it makes me miss these times bad. I can't seem to get enough of videos like these and abandoned house videos.

Janice Bowman I'm pleased for you and I hope you'll be very happy in your new home.

social housing in Britain is/was a very different model based on different values than in the USA where public housing is seen as a stepping stone here in the UK it is on a much more permanent basis in the old days when the council ran the housing stock we used to get lifetime tenancies.. since the housing associations took over and privatized everything they no longer exist we just get secure tenancies now days

Of course it wasn't but the 'b******S' weren't yet in total control as they are now.

"Architecturally, the Heygate Estate is one of my favourites". Just... no. Brutalist architecture as a means of housing human beings: no thank you.

@@annalisakingston-smith2721 sorry. But I’m very stupid at illustrating my feelings about architecture. I like modernism and Idk why I put the Heygate as a good example.

@@taiterobinson793 you’re not stupid, you’re just expressing what is your favourite and you’re quite entitled to have a favourite, whether it’s brutalist architecture or not, don’t put yourself down or apologise just because someone else wants to be patronising in their putting their opinion above your own.

Architecturally it was an ambitious scheme, I thought it was beautiful also. Such a shame it wasn't maintained.

Shane Wims Thanks Shane, glad you liked the film

Love your avatar Anagenia ☺

they never the flats now built on the land are private flats costing over a million £ and that's the basic ones

they didn't.. its all expensive luxury living round there now days..the original tenants were all LIED to!

Only 10% was allocated to social housing units

Thanks for your comment, and for watching the film. Yes, it seems Lady sensed the mood, it was tough to film that.

@@fattoadfilms it was just a really good film and captured the mood / moods perfectly. Things move on but you can't help feel sorry for some of the people.

The recent people moving have finished London communities they don't socialise!!!!! Pubs closed down!!!!!

I hear that things in that area have improved slightly since 1991.

@@ajs41 they moved in the 70’s. Once the kids grew up the neighborhood changed apparently.

Lived down the road in camberwell. High crime zone all round there when I left..

monika madrid Heygate Estate is being torn down. They had to move. So sad for all who lived there.

You are EXTREMELY NAIVE . What a ridiculous and ignorant comment. They had a great COMMUNITY spirit back in the day like I did and I was born and grew up 1/2 mile from them. I have a "better place with a lovely garden" but you can NOT recapture that community SPIRIT....

Not really. The irony about this is that they pretty much got a similar place to what they had before. Their Heygate place had a garden too. It's not nicer, it's just another council home that will have the same fate as Heygate someday, which is why they say they hope they don't get pushed out again before they kick the bucket.

scalpelli no they didn’t u stupid fuck

ANOTHER HELL

East dulwich

Harold Hill

He was upset because they had to move, but weren’t able to move a mattress they had spent over a thousand dollars on, for his wife’s health. Don’t be so hard-hearted

EFing and blinding , the worst thfing in British lives , compared with mugging stabbing shooting , Raping paedophiles , not to mention government and police corruption local and otherwise , where did you grow up in a MARY POPPINS MOVIE , YEP ! YES A LOVELY LOVED COUPLE ,

You are such an ignorant person, if you can’t see that they are a nice couple dealing with high level stress then you must also me a bit stupid. He said the f word, so what?? He had hurt his hand and was worried about his £1000 bed that helps with his wife’s health problems. They don’t look like they have money stacked up in the bank so that would have been a costly thing for them to save hard for. They are being forced out of a home they loved and had fond memories in. I suppose you have never swore in your life? Perfect Pratt. Can I just add that having an Irish family myself (Dublin) that the f word is not used in a way that the rest of the world use it, go and do some research about Irish culture, you dummy. They have Irish accents and I’m sure they don’t mean the f word in a vulgar way like what you’re implying