Last appearance of the classic TARDIS console on television! 

Yes... it was also reminescent of early Tom Baker's spookier TARDIS (see Pyramids of Mars) with the bigger, flatter and clean-cut roundels). I loved it at the time!

The Doctor didn't pay his electric bill !!

It's going in the same root once again but this time it's a woke and this time Fans cancelled the show and BBC still don't get it

The darkest time is the time of New Who.

@@DavidTyler No they didn't and the BBC get things better than you do: "It’s obviously undeniable that the ratings are down this series compared to Jodie Whittaker’s first adventures, which attracted a huge number of viewers. However, it is worth noting that these ratings were themselves a big step up from Peter Capaldi’s final series in 2017 (you can see the overnights for all four most recent series in the handy graph below, created by TVZone), and were bucking a general downward trend in recent Doctor Who. It’s not like for like - Capaldi’s series 10 was in the spring on Saturdays, a tougher slot compared to Whittaker’s two winter series on a Sunday night - but if this latest series had come right after series 10, the ratings drop would be significantly less noticeable (and in fact, the overnights are generally healthier in the Whittaker era, possibly due to the move to Sunday nights). Maybe, really, Whittaker’s first series was the blip - a big influx of people curious about the new casting of the Doctor - and now things are settling down again to about the level you’d expect for a 15-year-old reboot of a nearly 60-year-old TV show. It’s not as simple as saying that “clearly fans don’t like the show any more and have stopped watching it” - this has been a gradual decline since 2015 or earlier. And in a landscape when fewer young people than ever are watching BBC shows and audiences are being eaten up by big-budget sci-fi dramas on platforms like Netflix, Doctor Who was always going to struggle. The glory days of David Tennant et al were in a different TV landscape, and if the Tenth Doctor touched down now it seems unlikely he’d command anything close to the ratings he did over a decade ago. In fact, arguably, for Doctor Who’s latest series to be almost maintaining the ratings set three years ago isn’t a bad achievement considering what a drop there was between Capaldi’s 2015 and 2017 series (see above). Then again, the fact that the consolidated ratings are dropping could be a concern, as it goes against the common defence we hear for lower TV ratings as a whole - specifically that more people watch on catch-up or on-demand, so overnights are an outdated measurement. For Doctor Who the overnights are actually telling a slightly more positive story, which could be interpreted as uncertain viewers no longer being tempted after the fact. Alternatively, the fact that the show is on Sunday nights now could suggest that people are less likely to miss the show when it airs compared to when it was on Saturday nights, meaning overnights stay healthy even as viewers depart, with the shortfall more evident in catch-up. But what does this all actually mean for Doctor Who? It’s not as simple as “the ratings are down so Doctor Who will be cancelled,” as for the publicly-funded BBC there’s an interesting question about exactly what ratings are for beyond bragging rights. Obviously they need to make TV that people want to watch - but which people? At a recent event, BBC Drama boss Piers Wenger made the point that Doctor Who fulfils a need for family programming that is part of the BBC’s charter, and said they were far from wanting to rest the show. “I worked on Doctor Who myself, I produced it for many years, and I can honestly say that I don’t think it’s been in better health, editorially,” he said at the time. “I think it’s fantastic and I think that, the production values obviously have never been better.” “It’s also not just funded by the BBC, it’s funded by lots of international partners, it’s an incredibly important show for younger audiences, still watched by families in a world where there are fewer and fewer shows that have the power to do that, so it will always be an important show for us and I think we’re a very long way from wanting to rest it.” 6 Top BBC Dramas 2019: 16-34s (Out of the top 10 dramas across all channels) Line of Duty (1.4m/39.0%) Luther (1.4m/33.3%) Peaky Blinders (1.2m/36.0%) Doctor Who (1.1m/29.3%) His Dark Materials (1.0m/32.0%) Call the Midwife (0.9m/25.8%) Notably, in terms of attracting 16-34-year-olds to BBC Drama Doctor Who was the fourth-most successful show, jumping ahead of series like Death in Paradise, Silent Witness and Call the Midwife despite their higher overall ratings. Different people are watching Doctor Who than are watching these shows, so why wouldn’t you want to keep this broad church? More practically, as Wenger also pointed out, Doctor Who’s funding comes from other sources beyond the BBC alone - for example, the commercial arm BBC Studios - and compared to most other shows it has a dedicated fanbase keen to buy DVDs and merchandise and attend events. From these avenues, Doctor Who as a show offers opportunities other BBC series with bigger ratings don’t. At time of writing, you can’t buy a DS Steve Arnott action figure, no matter how many millions tune into Line of Duty every week. Doctor Who fans are engaged in a way few other shows are, so it’s not as simple as saying there are fewer of them watching so the series should be canned. These days, people like to say ratings don’t matter - and in a lot of ways they don’t. While some shows do still command big audiences for the most part our viewing is fragmented and split across multiple channels and platforms, while TV also competes for our attention with the attractions of the internet. The power of overnight ratings has diminished, and there are other ways to judge a show as a “success,” particularly on the non-advertising-based BBC. With that said, though, ratings do tend to start to matter if a show is doing well in them - for example, in Jodie Whittaker’s first series, when the big leap in viewers was well-publicised by the BBC - and the bad PR of making a show that fewer and fewer people are watching is the flipside to that, even if you’re not losing money on the show itself. But I don’t think this is the case for Doctor Who, and in my opinion it seems unlikely that this dip in ratings is anyway close to the end for the series. Maybe in a few years, if the trend continues, we’ll be having a different conversation - but for now Doctor Who is still in pretty good health, even if it’s not the top show on the BBC in terms of eyeballs onscreen. There’s at least one more series on the way, and I’d be very surprised if there weren’t more after that. If nothing else, it’s hard to think of any sort of replacement that would still bring in millions of viewers, attract young audiences and create a whole world of commercial opportunities at a stroke. For a while yet, the Doctor seems safe from extermination." www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2020-03-10/doctor-who-ratings-explained/

@@LordZontar the reports of the ratings where not that huge for her at all she couldnt get the big ratings matt and david did or peter did there all over 10mill if you think doctor who in good health then you are blind

@@DavidTyler It is you who is blind. The entire television environment has changed in the years between David Tennant and Jodie Whittaker. Ratings for all television shows for broadcast nights are down across the board because viewing habits and platforms have changed and either you didn't bother to read the article or you have some trouble comprehending the material. I'm sorry if this contradicts whatever agenda you're running on, but that is your problem entirely.

It was falling apart

Agreed.

The console itself wasn’t falling apart but the lighting elements and crystalline structure in the column were needing attention. The walls of the console room set were falling apart and had been junked by that point.

@@danivarius As you say they actually already had been junked - apparently. *Greatest Show in the Galaxy* (the story previous to this) was the last appearance of the console room walls that were used from Tom Baker's time on. If you look closely the 'roundels' here are not the same as in *Greatest Show,* they are larger and flush with the wall and actually look more like they did in the very early version of the console room as seen up until *Pyramids of Mars* (and in my view much better - see: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3tyBYzeIJjI.html - and compare to this; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O08TLVuKpRg.html). This is apparently because they were made just for this scene (the only time seen at all during this season) and hung up on a curtain type of material. The darker lighting helped to make this less obvious. The plan was to create an entirely new control room (and console) for the following (and never-to-be-produced) season 27.

@@danivarius The studio was not very proactive (as in allocating the budget) in moving to actually fix or replace the TARDIS set pieces, which they probably could have been doing during the break between seasons. This might have been a very subtle signal that the show was going to be axed. The current BBC head was very anti sci-fi and despite all the plans and determination to do the third season of The Tripods, that got the ax too.

Peter Davison's line that is "Soon be there!" Is from the Five Doctors too if you wanna know.

Always annoyed me they used sound bites when a lot of the actors are still alive. It would have been so much better if they used the living actors voices and we heard them bickering with eachother.

@@thebobbrom7176 That would be great. But a lot of the actors are incredibly old now, so their voices are far different than they were during their times as the Doctor, so it wouldn't have worked very well that way either.

@@jaycorbin5361 They sound fine when they do Big Finish

@@thebobbrom7176 Maybe, When I see Big Finish it's usually impersonators not the actual actors.

And the console was almost blown up completely in Enlightenment.

Nicholas Dickens it was because the set walls had been found to have been thrown away in error. There wasn’t time to make new ones rather than budget problems in this instance.

God how badly did the bbc treat the last few seasons of dw?

@@emotionalsupportostrich2480 they still do treat it badley look at it now

@@DavidTyler - in what way do they treat it badly now?

@@DavidTyler why do they think no one actually cares about it?

Or 'a restaurant for the French..'! 😦

"Gonna lock onto these coordinates." "And for my next trick!"

Ah,I see. Wondered why I recognized that line.

Geronimoooooo !! Allons-y !! Oh for God sake Gallifrey STAND !!!

@@thebluetardis ANGRY EYEBROWS!

@@deferguard7748 “Gonna lock onto these coordinates*”

I wonder if he would like the fact The Doctor redecorated.

@@SKINNYGINGERTOP Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart probably would. like the redecoration of the TARDIS console room.

@@SKINNYGINGERTOP Youve had this place redecorated havent you? Dont like it. That is one of the top quotes of the Doctors. Classic Who had the best lines one could use in real conversations.

@@diracsea4590 My favourite is _"There's no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."_ The 4th Doctor said it.

This was the last time he was seen in Doctor Who period. Although he did return in The Sarah Jane Adventures as well as in the fan-made spin-off Downtime.

What appeared on New Who was crap.

@@fjccommish and he's allowed to like it

@@fjccommish Well personally I prefer the New Who console rooms, the classic interiors were all monotone except for the 4th Doctor's alternative wooden console room, but everyone is allowed their individual preferences.

​@@commenterjosh2428 I thought the console room introduced during Matt Smith's tenure and used during Peter Capaldi's entire run was a good compromise between Classic and New Who design principles. I never liked the "coral" console room and the one that replaced it looked like something out of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". The latest version seems like a step backward.

@@icemachine79 Personally, I prefer the coral console room over the metallic console room, but I respect your opinion. I also like the metal, but it comes in at a close second behind the coral. I suppose it's because my favorite Doctor is Tennant, but Smith and Capaldi were great too. And of course Eccleston was great too, don't skip Nine! As for the classic Doctors, I don't really have much opinion to give, but I've seen clips of them all, and all the actors were great, the 80s Doctors just needed higher budgets.

Absolutely.

In my opinion looks kindof cheesy ngl

Certainly the console

@@wisteela Agreed. Perhaps I went overboard with the console room bit, as the background was just a drape at this point in the show’s history 😂

Surely you don't mean these roundelle drapes version? :)

That is true. The only time we really see him proper pilot the TARDIS was Delta and the Bannermen

@@user-vf9qc6io9i And briefly in the movie.

Thats because it was destroyed and so they had none to film with so did a mock up version hence why its dark in this scene so you can't tell.

Or maybe they thought that it was stupid. Not every button needs to make a noise, other than the actual noise of being pressed.

It was the central column, not time rotor 🙄

@@danivarius The central column is the time rotor.

Every season 24 story had a console scene but they were pretty brief.

I thought the walls of it were thrown out in Error

what do you mean

The 1983 set was damaged and cheaply/hurriedly replaced for this scene, and it's really obvious.

@@SciFiAssasin ahhh wdym by bbc trailer though

The trailer for the original 1989 broadcast.

Now to Over analyze this comment! if die electricians left because of of awful then you will surely see the error in your deduction!

I'm pretty sure we didn't even see the interior for Tom's first season as well

@@thestigmister And Jon Pertwee's first season had the console outside the Tardis. I think the first time the third Doctor is seen inside the Tardis is a few serials into his second season - Claws of Axos.

We only saw the tardis interior once in season 25 as well

We didn't get to see the TARDIS interior much during Jon Pertwee's run, only in a few stories. We also didn't see it much during Tom Baker's first 2 seasons, nor during Sylvester McCoy's run.

The set was falling apart by that point and they had no budget to rebuild it- the reason why it’s dark in this scene is to hide the fact the Wall behind McCoy is cardboard

Shhh you're not allowed to say that anymore... lol

Huh?

@@diamondaxe4133 he trying to mock the m coy fans and missing the point

Yes! Around "hand of fear"

The wooden control room was last used during Leela's season in the episode Horror of Fang Rock,the episode before K9 mark 1 joined the series in The invisible Enemy.

It was technically last seen in Robots of Death as the TARDIS interior was not seen in Talons of Weng-Chiang and Horror of Fang Rock.

Lol I noticed that just now too!

Even the set was worried about being cancelled. 😉

What’s wrong with the description? I’m always open to constructive criticism!!

@@dj5819 The Five Doctors was the 20th anniversary, not the 25th and the show did indeed run for 26 years, but that puts its end in 1989, not '87 sorry to sound so annoyingly nitpicky; I've grown up with the show since my formative years, so the details like that are things that are ingrained into my brain xD

The console wasn't that bad really, just the set was thrown out.

The scene was always scripted to be darkly lit as the script editor and writers felt the set was too brightly lit (and they all generally hated writing for it anyway...). It's just a coincidence that it coincided with the lack of set. The set was away from TV centre for Greatest Show so it very likely got junked with all the other greatest show sets - and because the sets were generally handled with care it probably took a lot of bashing around to get it to Elstree Studios - every story usually saw the sets being patched up and repainted to cover all the dirty hand prints etc🤓

@@Darren79 obviously this was the beginning of the doctor’s grunge stage ;p

@@acwarrilow That was after his goth phase

Pertwee did alright without a console room for a time, and it was nowhere to be seen during Tom's first season. I doubt it made any difference.

they means these are thrown-together cheap replacements for the standard TARDIS walls used.

@@pocket-dimension I know really, I just find it funny

In this case they were just curtains, I think. So yes, literally what you said!

The one time The Doctor gets to drive her right

It was done on purpose as part of the 'cartmel master plan' restoring the doctor's mystery/dark side

@@TNJX it was done because they threw the real set away and wanted to hide the fake temporary set.

Great story with some really philosophical mystical moments. The Merlin future generation reference, and the direction is spot on

@@TNJX This first introduced me to Doctor Who.

@TheBobBrom I mean that would mean they'd have to make a bunch of individual contracts just for cameos. And it's not like they could use big finish.

I was going to say that this is from 1989. Because 1963-1989 is that 26 years.

It's because of Whittaker and Chibnall. Timeless Children was the final straw

1. Remembrance of the Daleks, 2. The Curse of Fenric, 3. Battlefield, 4. Ghost Light, 5. Time and the Rani.

ONE writer alleged in _2013_ that Turner was a sexual predator, with nothing to back it up. There's no reason to repeat these claims.

Jesus Christ, calm your tits, Mary Sue! Nobody deserves to be forced to endure unlimited viewings of Timelash! I cried at the end of the final episode. Those were tears of relief.

@@georgemorgan4217 that why no women should play The Doctor he is a grandfather to Susan and doesn't feel like Doctor Who anymore being played by her just like Master missy thing just takes everything that made that character in first place it be like making superman into a woman it just doesn't work all they doing it just using the name the name of the show.

David Lomax I do think Michelle Gomez worked as the master/missy because she is a fantastic actress and had some decent scripts whereas Jodie doesn’t work as the Doctor at all her scripts are awful and the acting is subpar and bland throughout both of her seasons

Agreed, it shows up all the wonderful flashing light:)

It reminds me of a big 1970s modular synthesizer or concert organ.

This isn't it damaged this is it gone Someone accidentally threw out the walls or something and they only had the console That's a painted curtain behind them

I love the round things…

What are the round things?

@@stevenduering7155 no idea…

"Merlin... Meeerlin" 🤓

@@Darren79 aaahhh, thankee :)

Nope - this is the last console of the Classic era. Sleek cream computer keyboards and a transparend tiered wedding cake rotor... in The Doctor's Wife they make a smaller grey console from junk including a shower head.

They can just about get away with it in the dark, but I agree, could have been better.

More like painter's plastic sheeting stretched onto a wood frame. And yes, it was a very quick, crude job.

Hey who turned out the lights

May the war begin

@@Everie What war? I loved twelve's.

@@DivineDefect a lot of people hate Twelve's... I thought they would come here disagree 🤣

@@Everie Whaaaaaattttttt it's the best one! We are talking about the same tardis right?! :0

@@DivineDefect yes my dear. But every have a person to disagree

The voice is calling for "Merlin" (the Doctor). It's a very magical story involving Arthurian Knights and legends... Oh, and they have futuristic laser guns, because it's Doctor Who.

The original console was used by Hartnell, Troughton and Petwee (up until Inferno). The 2005 console was used by 9, 10 and 11.

Concreteowl the 2005 one was not used by 11.

@@definitely_notme4112 How did he leave young Amy then? he clearly hasn't seen the copper interior before he and adult Amy entered the tardis.

Ville for one, i mean he didn’t use it as his main control room. Also, he did see it before him and adult amy entered it, he saw it when he took off for it’s quick break in trip to the moon that accidentally was 2 years.

Yes, it did. The Greatest Show in the Galaxy says hello. Seven & Ace have quite a long scene in the TARDIS before going off on that wonderful adventure. Probably my favourite of S25. Remembrance is objectively the best, but Greatest Show ticks more boxes for me.

Battlefield

@@CongaLineMonkey oh thanks

Battlefield was one of the 1st episodes of Doctor Who I ever watched.

You joke but that was almost the legit reason why it was so dark. The real reason was that the walls were just paper ones and not the real tardis walls as they had been thrown away as the show was being cancelled so they had it dark to hide the walls.

The Long Night was pretty dark, but eventually ended.

Battlefield.

Battlefield Part One.