Late 14th/Early 15th Century Timurid -Persian armor. 

Very well possible.

Checkout Tod's workshop, he does experiments with archery and armour...

Thank you , Not to mention Iranic People continued to use them While in the service of of those people.

@@baytal-asad Exactly, persian nobility fought side by side with the Mongols/Turkic elites. I have to admit, I imagine the persians/iranian being much better at close combat, given the persian tradition of using heavy armor, the mace, and just the fact that white people are larger than the Asian Yurkic warriors, who epecialized in mounted archery.

@@user-zs2vt5yw3d most of the Timurid Iranian conscripts were heavily armored because of that very traditional. Granted, when you look at Sassanid Cataphracts who were heavily armored they too did shoot bows , however by this time Turko-Mongol horse archers won out because of thier favoritism by Timur

Turco Mongols wore armor before Iranian influence too

@@RandomGuy-df1oy absolutely, never said they didn't, but I'm commenting on how Iranian armor gets attributed to other cultures more than the other way around.

From what I am aware, it could vary, however the most common I am accustomed to have chain sewn into upper arms, torso And upper legs

@@baytal-asad I see. Thank you!!!

On average from around the Iranic world many museum examples have such a broad bladed head. This signifies the weapons cutting as well as thrusting abilities.

I noticed that too. I guess they helped deflect downward cuts away from the eye slits.

It is because Europeans imitated the Parthian and Sasanian cataphract armor

Thank you, I agree that it's sad when people can't accept cultural origins of pieces and allow their pan nationalism to erase what years of archeological and Historical research has proven. I have labeled this as *Timurid - Perisan (or Iranian) as I have chosen to interpret what an Iranian warrior serving Timur could have looked like. I have never denied that cross cultural influence hasnt had thier way both ways, but this is interpreted from an Iranian position and not Turkish. It is the erasure of the Iranian aspects of arms and armor and the people who served Thr Timurids during this time that is academically dishonest. The fact remains, native Iranians retained aspect of cultural identity through arms and armor throughout the times when they were ruled by others. Just because Turko- Mongols ruled Iranians doesn't mean Iranian material culture is suddenly theirs. Claiming a helmet with Eyebrowm motiffs , found in a region (north west Iran) that was largely isolated from centralized control is of Turko- Mongols is sudden " Turkish ' is as about as obscene as saying the Mambele is a Dutch weapon because they controlled that part of Africa.

And no Lamellar did not fall out of favor until the mid 15th century where it was phased out by Mail and plate. Countless miniature paintings dated from the end of the 14th century still show Lamellar in use. Thank you for your questions

Nationalism really did a number on people. It's a shame since it ends up being so reductionist. A place like Central Asia was a melting pot of peoples and cultures, including of Iranic, Turkic and Mongolic peoples. Now you have keyboard warriors refusing to accept even the least bit of nuance. It's even sadder when they're completely wrong. There's a comment on this very page where some guy claimed Chinggis (Borjigin) and Timur (Barlas) were Turks, when both were Mongols! 😂

Iran is the name of land coming from Arian as everybody knows. This name has given to that place by ancient Greeks according to their so-known mithologia. The people living on these lands named as arians or iranians by westcentric approach. The origin people did never called theirselves as Iranians. The term Pers or Persian is another subject. Sahipkiran Timur was Turkic, but because of his eras political needs, by his queen, he had to join himself to Chengiz Kaan's bloodline, who is also known as Turkic-Mongol. Even if you ask todays Mongolian living in Mongolia, they would say what I am saying. Why it is important? What would change whether Sahipkiran Emr Timur's ethnicity? Even in this channel it is called a part with a ethnicity Pers, in the other hand the other with his name Timur, just to hide the frightened reality. Timur was a Turkic figure. Another thing is from 11th century to 18th century the ruller class and at least 1/3 people of the today's Iran were talking in the exact Turkish which was the mother tongue of Ottoman Turks and Turkistan Turks ( todays Turmenistan, Ouzbekistan and Azerbiajan). Still there are 30 million Iran citizens living in todays Iran has Turkish-Oughuz tongue. When it comes to 14-15th centuries armores. First the channel had to write it as Persian-Turkic or Timurid - that era's shah's name. This is an open discrimination against the most warrior people of Turkistan steppes. When it comes to armors, both heavy and light armores of 14th century used by Turkic-Mongolian forces. Because as of 11th century to 15th century the 6 crusade waves have been stopped by Seljuk and Ottomans whom were also Turkic. The steel and black smith art has known as Oughuz-Kipchak arts in Asia, whom were the two biggest branches of (western-eastern) Turkic people. Persia or Iran is the name of place, it is not meaning all people lived on this place were today's Farsi's ancestors. Safevids for instance were not talking Persian, and since the Memluks to the end of Safavids in middle east the army and high bourocracy language has always been Oughuz or Kunman-Kipchak Turkish language families. From Chinese wall to Hungary.

Maybe we will make them but our focus is more medieval and that is going to modern era.

Sassanid is on my list for sure

It's sewn in-between layers of quilting. Sorry if that was not clear

@@baytal-asad OOOH that makes so much more sense! I mean, I've worn chainmail over thin cloth when it's hot, but it can still dig in if you are hit. But sandwiched between padding is totally different.

We would be glad to assist. If you would like to email baytalasad22@gmail.com, we can supply you with trusted armorers as well as primary sources to help guide you Additionally we can provide professional consultation to build a kit. There are many unique and diverse cultures that lived in the middle east and we can help be sure your kit is not a stereotype or generic representation of armor from region you chose.

@@baytal-asad thanks, will e-mail you soon

Yes indeed!

@@baytal-asad I knew I recognized the background. Just went today too. Hope to see you at the Vermont or Maine one!

Very good question! Please give me a minute to give you a thorough reply

Essentially, depending on the campaign or engagement they served as both. Timur prefered his central asian horse archers to any other form of cavalry but that didt not omit the use of Iranian heavy calvary when needed . But during other engagements such as the Battle of Anakra , Timur employed many heavily armored infanty to counter the Vasallized Serbian Knights and Sepahis use by Beyzazid. Gear for each my vary but both Iranian infantry and cavalry were heavily armored. Timurid era paintings from Isfahan the from 1390s show both footsoldiers and cavalry wearing similar armaments.

@@baytal-asad What source's are there regarding the ethnic composition of Timur's armies, as well as the way in which they fought. Is there any good books or something regarding that sort of topic?

This was my first starting point , then I followed the work cited in this book for other information www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-att-us-rvc3&sca_esv=c049acb6f0d1f7df&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIJVbniTfFhKxyiZLxudPkKQGMXXcw:1716210526695&q=the+age+of+tamerlane&si=ACC90nxka2Fvqm8pF4Tj4sQ1t1xO-n5mL9EQvXIYzLfHrbD7tIq1s331WYXRg7A2dFZ5w0-CueVL3L6-znoCfEPxlwe5xVew7Pczz5e7vFrXFAGf3y2cxsxqZUSXXhq-ydYwhnl9WYOw&uds=ADvngMjX9Nw0Knqf4QQ3FLaIN5swWkwqOqwhH13ovPapInN8Ye7zqyDspjIuhVb6AChWZHVY6ZSgt38V2gZNFwmVQj1bdnHIGp-IDjeCQDoRD4GH4hnuUmSamtkVmAtgUuvbchlWem733kMotDFV_3Iteq9hDIvrOo6pedbkqqhEKcSid0zH5bjdn6NkOIodyhwgEIFLWpS62__kSXjxqrweeopGlHQl5AbGg_wVhgNt7ZwB-Dz4DW7U-eu8Ul0MJdXYlhXynbuGJN-DxtI-xQmHFHxnWh0RR8rWlfL_lTmq-2YHxxwfmSk94IRh6gu2IR_HPZC4yhzNxVaEn2TXN2AKmv29rOXHq2t_v3BWkHhr-RUTBNsfwLd_9ND7X4k0hkNmeabnqqClhMrXOQh19-XlVxzUyP-2X_1nk9IJN2BWb8Szf3V4ANoDexflLr5rajifEyUQHPBnlXGewT59fFiqLWi9ceF_ubYhavcbSa80vcIIlSuHYkQs0IfPOXVJXXPOBptfSwLf4EuEN_iWMg6AgJ2ANbhTWo6Vy761-Ol7ewV-llqMbDfA8fazhVKU19RnpqDF1vUXUFkrU4iwIGK1jjo6ndkNSC8vezkXWGLgcw226FfXv-Q&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwilq7a2ppyGAxV-jYkEHYlSBxEQk8gLegQIERAD&ictx=1&biw=360&bih=649&dpr=3

@@baytal-asad Thank you very much

Yes! So many cultures used it. But what I'm addressing is the notion that somehow the Mongols introduced it to Iran.

@@baytal-asad who invented the oven to melt down the metal to steel step by step iam not sure if you can point as mongols of origin of such things

@@baytal-asad when you create a high quality trade route with high quality wares as the silkroad was than mongols are just the high quality bandits you will find forming hahaha sad but true its a culture yes but it was pirates of the roads

@@baytal-asad you can find great examples btw how banditry became nationhood and culture in many forms of civilization of course just look at germany

@@baytal-asad the famous "raubritter" has become the european high quality pirate

Because it's the against the advantage of lamellar armor itself, which easier to make, repair and flexible. Leather cords is easier to acquire and still strong enough against cut

In the later development, they add plates to the mail hauberk (Plated mail armor). Which significantly increase the strength while retain the flexibility. This type of armor were replacing lamellar and some extent brigandine in Middle East and Eurasia

Very little of Modern Iran Is actually extremely hot. It's a very temperate climate

basically create some form and layer them after another into it with the idea that the carbon fiber is just a case and the real hull and plate inside are the 3 metal plates welded on eachother starting with frontplate copper

its an armor for mass production by people not by government

it should be highest class for its weight class atleast

composite doesnt stand a chance for sure

Please friend. Read your comment, figure out what you meant, make it make sense, then explain it to the rest of us.

@@kilgoresandtrout stop trying to sound smart ass ! Didn't the persians cease to exist after antiquity... ? Err you know that specific period in time called antiquity don't you ? From 3000 BC to 476 AD ? So if those were the people called persians living in the Antiquity period... the ones Alexander the great fought and conquered and this is a reproduction of a 14th to Early 15th century armor then why is it called "Persian" armor ? The persian people ceased to exist long before those centuries and their descendents evolved into other people so why is it called "Persian" That's what the FUCK I MEAN... Now if you don't understand my question the way I put it the first time at least don't be rude or sarcsstic about it cause you don't know what the FUCK i meant or didn't mean. And I don't owe any explanation to you... My question ( the one in my first comment ) was directed to the author of this video so you can just go on your diddly day minding your own diddly bussiness "friend"

@@alinvid6098”Persian” doesn’t just refer to the classical era Persian Empire. In this case the video title tells you the era being discussed. “Persian” refers to Persian cultural features and linguistic connections in a fairly broad region. The ethnicity of the Iranian is people is Persian, regardless of their religion. Therefore, armors developed in the region, and are common in the Persian linguistic, cultural, and political sphere of direct influence, are Persian. Relax.

Because it extended past antiquity…. Like we refer to the areas by the ruling dynasty, kingdoms, etc. but it’s still Persia. The same for anywhere else in the world. If not that would make the Russo-Persian Wars of the 19th century really awkward

"Persia" was in use, frequently, up until after WWII. If you look at most museum exhibits, PERSIAN arms and armor are listed as Persian. When you read articles on historical matters in the region, they'll refer to Persians. The Abbasid Caliphate, for example, saw the spread of PERSIAN influences in the culture and fashion at the time.

ahh friend i think you dont need this channel for your wealth income you can do it the way i told you in fact this channel is your diary my diary is the most powerful persons postal address i guess from my country yours is the wide world it comes to the same thing in our worlds in the end we seek to register truths step by step

your truth is registered yours and your busy friends the iranian friend who is from my nation my family therefore it doesnt matter if it is seen by a million or by 1 the 1 makes a 11 and the 11 makes it 11 11 right since we are two and knowledge passes and truth is told

you will do just fine there in your america which is busy with war

i like armor what about you

you think you can fire at an armor designed by yourself and basically copycat design from a medieval armor or even one of antiquity just using the most modern materials methods etc pp if you think so why not create one and send it to the gun hungry guys on youtube for a testing the demoballistic hands and whatever

i mean if you wanted to catch a bullet with such armor traditions

rethinking is conceptual its even above intellectual workings and simple cognitive structure either way the one who does it he does it and its very simple in that sense be so it will be right iam so it is