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Changing the headstock oil on a Harrison Lathe

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21 мар 2015

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@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 3 года назад
My Harisson 140 came today John, can't wait to get it running up in the morning man
@phooesnax
@phooesnax 9 лет назад
That was beautiful inside. You had to be very pleased seeing that. Say HI to Debs!
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
It was great to see I will pass on your message to Debs
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 9 лет назад
Glad to hear your love for your tools. Taking good care will help them to last a long time! When I went from regular 15w-40 to 0w40 syn on my MB diesel I picked up 1mpg american.
@swarfrat311
@swarfrat311 9 лет назад
John, Thanks for another important video. Your headstock wouldn't last very long without oil in it! I hope Debs is doing fine. I'll comment more after your Sunday Night Nitecap. Thanks again! Have a good one! Dave
@jamesjinks8080
@jamesjinks8080 9 лет назад
John, Smart... I would love to revisit this in 3 or 6 months or so (open her back up) and take a look at the oil and gears. Best to Deb! Jim
@andrewnoblett9510
@andrewnoblett9510 Год назад
Thanks John I just ordered some for my Harrison lathe
@jeffknight9030
@jeffknight9030 5 лет назад
I wonder how this is 4 years on. I really need to clean my lathe more. Nice vid' keep 'em coming.
@codprawn
@codprawn 4 года назад
I have been watching loads of lathe videos recently. I thought my old Colchester Triumph round head lathe was noisy. After seeing this I have realised I have one that is extremely quiet. Not that yours is noisy at all - just mine is like a ghost!
@BourneAccident
@BourneAccident 8 лет назад
If I had a lathe that nice, I'd be putting in Royal Purple synthetic racing gearbox oil too. That lathe rocks and I'm jealous.
@CJ_LEGAN
@CJ_LEGAN 9 лет назад
Harry likes the new juice. That should make him Happy Happy Happy!
@andrewhills6535
@andrewhills6535 6 лет назад
Top job 👍🏻
@TheInfoworks
@TheInfoworks 9 лет назад
You know that yellow protective foam they put around scafolding in public places. I used a small piece of that over the microphone on my mx20 and it reduced that focus on backgound noise, did not effect the general sound, and also cut down wind noise. Cheers
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
I will give it a try I need to upgrade the camera so I can use a separate mike
@mfletch392
@mfletch392 9 лет назад
I put a small magnet in the oil way to the front bearing as I had problems with my gear box on the L6 just to catch and filling's
@VoidedWarranty
@VoidedWarranty 9 лет назад
At one pointing did a bit of research into gearbox oils for an old car I had. I discovered that sulfur based gear oils for rear diff's shouldnt be used with bronze, but anything without sulfur is OK. Which includes most ATFs. What atf doesn't do for me is a high enough viscosity for my lathe. Thanks for the video, I think I'm going to do the same with my noisy lathe, get some good modern oil in there. Your description of that top oil channel made me think I better go check the leveling of my lathe to make sure the oil can flow to the front bearing right.
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 9 лет назад
the old EP oil, used for diffs, is a good thick oil and fine with bronze bushings, i know ive seen it at 150grade which is pretty hefty
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
jusb1066 The headstock bearings need a very thin oil Hypoyd 75 / 90 would be better
@VoidedWarranty
@VoidedWarranty 9 лет назад
I found many hypoid gear oils to contain some sulfer. I think your call to go with a high end synthetic was a good one. See here, #8 for more details. www.morrislubricants.co.uk/lubricants/company.asp?wp=91
@jhareng
@jhareng 9 лет назад
Chris Chatelain Mine didn't sound right with fully synth 75/90, soon drained it for ATF that ran for 9 years.
@VoidedWarranty
@VoidedWarranty 9 лет назад
My lathe is specced for a 5-10w oil in the headstock, a 40w gear lube made it noisy and the bearings heat up. All returned to normal with an ATF.
@ckvasnic1
@ckvasnic1 9 лет назад
John, NASCAR gear box oil... Be sure and keep an eye on your lathe... It might start going in an oval and only turning left. All the best... Chuck
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 9 лет назад
"oh, you wanted right hand threading? Bastardt, ill have to change the oil" says john.
@ponkkaa
@ponkkaa 9 лет назад
He's in Great Britan so they'll be turning right. Right?
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 9 лет назад
Very important to change the oil. That it increases mileage is simple, it has less change in viscosity with temperature rise, so they can make it a lighter weight oil while still having it be a good lubricant at running temperature. The hot oil is as viscous as the regular oil, but when cold it is still the same unlike the regular mineral oil, so it absorbs less energy in the box to churn it, and thus the box runs with less losses. Your car box would be running about 10C cooler after a long drive. Less heat generated by the oil churning in the box is less work done by the engine and thus less fuel used. Impressive that they put in the swarf magnet, and that it is still clean. I have found that they will grow a thin film with time of wear particles, so your lathe looks like it did very little work, and not much high speed operation, which would have generated the highest force on the gear teeth.
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
the lathe has done very little the paint is original it is indeed a great find
@keithammleter3824
@keithammleter3824 3 года назад
Sean, your first paragraph has some basis in theory, but in practice you won't notice any change in mileage - see my other post. Power loss in lathe headstocks is quite unimportant - it's not as if it will reduce his electricity bill by anything other than an entirely negligible amount.
@glennedward2201
@glennedward2201 6 лет назад
Royal Purple? That’s actually some excellent gear oil although I would never imagine it used in machinery. How’s it working? I’ve used Lucas in my bandsaw gearbox and it seems to work decent so far.
@johnmcdyer3315
@johnmcdyer3315 9 лет назад
Glad to hear that John I have a spare clutch assembly for mine in case parts get scarce cheers but I don't have the brake items
@vajake1
@vajake1 9 лет назад
Did you make a new work light for this lathe?
@WAVETUBE84
@WAVETUBE84 9 лет назад
I bet you love your new lathe! Royal Purple is some super good oil! Though not cheap. You are correct: synthetic oil does improve gas mileage! In any car. Not much, but worth it over a few thousand miles. By saving just a few gallons (or liters) of fuel pays for the extra cost of the synthetic oils. It's more stable over temperature ranges than organic oil. It also increases the lifespan of the moving parts. No gimmick, it is true. The only negative issue with synthetic oils is: it's expensive and it finds any small crack or pore to leak out of (because it is so "thin").
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 9 лет назад
wonder what his lathe will do to the gallon now!
@jhareng
@jhareng 8 лет назад
+jusb1066 Should be a bit more due to the thinner 10W oil used. Theres many other equivalents to the purple and not rip off pricing.
@tonyfalloon3710
@tonyfalloon3710 9 лет назад
Hi John. Did you manage to get a quick change tool post for you Harrison 140? If so does it have a manufacturer and model number on it. Regards. Tony
@andymandyandsheba4571
@andymandyandsheba4571 9 лет назад
sounds nice that john . i dont think ATF would harm bronze bushing they used to use in nearly all rover and quite a few Austin gear boxes from what i can remember i know my SDi run it and it was manual
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
They had the same box in the early discos and landy 90 / 110 s lol There was a pump inside them that fed the main shaft
@andymandyandsheba4571
@andymandyandsheba4571 9 лет назад
my landy was a bit before then mid to late 50s boy do i miss the old cars
@petessite
@petessite 8 лет назад
hello John , good videos , you mentioned you had a colchester Bantam which had a noisey ol gearbox , well my tripumph lathe is just the same , get it in high gears an doesnt she go to town !!! keep up doing the videos , all the best ........
@Godscountry2732
@Godscountry2732 8 лет назад
excellent,using a good grade lubricate can save $$$$$$$
@smolville
@smolville 6 лет назад
Do your chips bounce off of that old door? I have some painful memories of that.
@Opinionator52
@Opinionator52 9 лет назад
Cool John, a racing lathe, or,,,, a lathe to make racing parts with! Spotlessly clean too! ;o] O,,,
@johnmcdyer3315
@johnmcdyer3315 9 лет назад
John I noticed that the chuck takes a while to stop was it like that before you changed the oil ? Or could it be the brake is worn , regards to both of you
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
Hi John The brake / clutch needed setting up Working fine now
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 лет назад
I hear royal purple gear oil shears easily and turns into a watery viscosity.
@robincox8902
@robincox8902 8 лет назад
Where do you get the royal purple old mate.
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 8 лет назад
+Robin Cox Advanced Automotive Systems (use my name)
@normanstivala3875
@normanstivala3875 9 лет назад
What sort of speed does one use for a wiggler, and for an edge finder. I cannot find a speed that works well with me. The fault might lie in the wiggler or edge finder quality. Norman
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 9 лет назад
I use 150 rpm usually
@Davidthomasv8
@Davidthomasv8 3 года назад
Pain all night but its eazzing now
@dieselengines1760
@dieselengines1760 4 года назад
That oil looks thick, we use tellus 68,
@Ketis1985
@Ketis1985 Год назад
32, 46 and 68 all of them will work. Hydraulic oil 46 is what i use In my bernardo 500 lathe.
@paweisyn7446
@paweisyn7446 5 лет назад
Pozdrawiam z Polski ! -Paweł.
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 лет назад
whats that noise 6:54
@oilburner225
@oilburner225 6 лет назад
Anyone know where I can get this product at a reasonable price? Best price I can find is £34.94p per litre including p&p. As much as I love my lathe this does seem a bit steep.
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 6 лет назад
google "advanced automotive systems" speak to Stuart and use my name
@oilburner225
@oilburner225 6 лет назад
Thanks John, I'll give them a call.
@ralfgottfridhansson3127
@ralfgottfridhansson3127 9 лет назад
What do you think of treating gearbox whit www.ceramizer.com/content/view/38/45/ works grate on noisy old cars gearbox makes it less noisy
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 Год назад
Is this available in English?
@gwkdad
@gwkdad 4 года назад
Is there a version of this video in english???
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 года назад
Well I won't be putting funny oil in my lathe ! It'll be proper oil from a proper oil company - Shell or Esso/Mobil. All oil will lubricate but that's not the real issue. The real issue is compatibility with rubbery compounds as used in oil seals - and using an oil that keeps them supple so they keep working as a seal. Folks like John should know there are about 4 different automatic gearbox oils (Type G (Old Fords) and Dexron II) are the two that come to my mind and I can't think what the real difference is other than caring for oil seals. Apart from viscosity.
@BourneAccident
@BourneAccident 8 лет назад
I wish this video was in English.
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 8 лет назад
+Bourne Accident Me too Regards . John
@michalrimmerak1646
@michalrimmerak1646 6 лет назад
Me too, I did not understand shit. But I´m not native speaker.
@Kyokunek
@Kyokunek 5 лет назад
I am not english too but if someone wants it can be understood after careful listening.. very good channel with loads of very usefull information. Keep up the good job sir! regards from Poland!
@jorgeg.d.5983
@jorgeg.d.5983 5 лет назад
Wait...isn't that Ivan from Russia??
@drd1924
@drd1924 5 лет назад
it is ....its in old english
@Davidthomasv8
@Davidthomasv8 3 года назад
OK love been in pIn all night but its eating now u and alin and kids OK xx
@sleefox
@sleefox 7 лет назад
Bugger off, Dude, you must add captioning.
@burlatsdemontaigne6147
@burlatsdemontaigne6147 7 лет назад
Lee Fox Why?
@sleefox
@sleefox 7 лет назад
Burlats de Montaigne I have traveled extensively inside the US and abroad. So I'm used to communicating with people with difficult accents to understand. In your case it's impossible as you speak too fast with way too deep of your local speech pattern. I doubt if slowing your delivery down and he will do much good so what you need to do is think seriously about captioning your videos. What you have to offer is valuable but I don't have time to replay this a dozen times in order to find out what it is you're actually saying. in addition you need to check these comments more often as it's been some time since I placed this shity remark.
@bargeutube
@bargeutube 6 лет назад
only an American would expect the rest of the world to speak like them.
@burlatsdemontaigne6147
@burlatsdemontaigne6147 6 лет назад
Quite. Breathtaking arrogance.
@chrishill6276
@chrishill6276 5 лет назад
Lee Fox the reason you yanks cant understand is you dont speak english. Im oz. I understand