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Lathe Restoration And Improvements - CVT (Reeves Drive) 

The Hobby Machinist NZ
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This is the third video in the Lathe Restoration And Improvements series. In this video I build the CVT or Reeves Drive mechanism for the lathe. I also make an adjustable motor bracket so that the belt can be easily adjusted. I run it up and take measurements of the low and high speed range.

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31 янв 2023

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@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Год назад
I know you didn't Invent the CVT, but you're still a genius for making one yourself, and putting it on the 'tube.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for your comments. There is not a lot of info on the net for these CVTs. Well, not much in building them anyway. I thought it would be useful for others if I recorded the build and made it available.
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop Год назад
Gday Jon, well this works a treat, definitely lots of work involved but certainly well worth it, your really doing a brilliant job mate, cheers
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks Matty. I cant wait to get it finished so I can turn some wood.
@Xynudu
@Xynudu Год назад
Interesting build Jon. I have not seen a CVT on a wood lathe before. DAF used rubber CVT belts to drive a small car, so they should be up to the task. Cheers Rob
@glennwright9747
@glennwright9747 Год назад
My wood lathe has a CVT! Works well. The lathe was purchased as a complete assembly.
@Paul-FrancisB
@Paul-FrancisB Год назад
yep my Wife's Kity 664 wood lathe has a CVT also, much nicer and easier than changing belts works a treat
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching Rob. They are common on Jet Wood Lathes.
@Vandal_Savage
@Vandal_Savage Год назад
Ingenious design! Well executed too. I can't help thinking that motor is going to fill up with sawdust in next to no time, at the very least I think it'll need vacuuming at every usage...
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks. I might need to add some type of shield over the motor.
@Vandal_Savage
@Vandal_Savage Год назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz probably won't need much, just some kind of deflector skirt to stop dust being sucked into the motor as it drops to the floor. Although there might be a trade-off between proper air circulation (preventing overheating) and dust shielding, perhaps run the lathe a few times and see how bad the dust is?
@berniesr
@berniesr Год назад
I think that this is all very clever. I'm looking forward to teh next installment of the Lathe Restoration
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for your comments.
@37yearsofanythingisenough39
Outstanding! Have never seen anyone attempt this on RU-vid.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
There are not many videos out there of people making these CVT/Reeves drives. And, the videos that are there don't have much detail in them. I kind of had to work it all out by trial and error, but I got something half decent in the end. Thanks for watching.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop Год назад
That kind of drive is always interesting. Well done.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks Ben.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop Год назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz No worries. Even went back and corrected the typo.
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 Год назад
I think itis an excellent beginning. I would consider a screw on the arm to adjust the RPM. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks for bringing us along.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
No problem, and thanks for the suggestion re the screw on the adjusting arm.
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 Год назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz We used Reeves drives on high pressure mono pumps and they all had cranks. The particle size we were spraying was critical, so we had very good control with the pumps. I have a similar drive on my Clausing 5913 lathe, but it is hydraulic controlled sheaves. I also have an old Clausing 100 MK that I would love to adapt this to. I've been thinking about a Jack shaft with cone pulleys similar to a drill press except quick change ratios.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 Год назад
We made springs in shop where i worked by drilling the trough hole on a rod that we used as a mandrel.Then make a v groove in a peace of wood(teflon plastic is even better but wood is cheap).Put wire in a mandrel hole and in toolpost v groove wood goes down and another peace of wood(without groove) goes on top.Wire gets sandwiched between wood ,which gives it a tension.You can put a dab of grease in groove to make things go easier. A right depth of groove is slightly smaller like 0.1mm than a thickness of wire. Tension in wire is what makes difference between birds nest and a good spring.Also gap between tool post and a winding rod is way too much when you made that spring.Depending on thickness of wire 2-3cm is enough for wire sizes up to 5-6mm. Spring always winds up a bit so take that in consideration when making a mandrel.If you need to get it dead on measurement best thing is to wind it on mandrel and then while under tension heat it up until its red hot and let it slowly cool down .Best thing would be to wind a red hot wire (but thats hard to achieve in a home made shop with small diameter wire that looses heat quickly -maybe a induction coil heater?).After this method you need to harden and temper the spring thou (thats why mostly DIY people tend to avoid it).
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for your detailed comments on making springs. I have not heard of this method of making springs before.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 Год назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz Well if you ask 10.000 machinists to fix the same problem you will find 12.000 solutions to a same problem :)
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Год назад
DIY CVT, nice.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thank you.
@plkahl
@plkahl Год назад
So you outbit me on Kevin's dental chair plates! Great work on the cvt
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
It is hard to find good small pieces of plate steel for projects. Kevin sells them occasionally so I guess the demand is there which drives up the bidding. Thanks for watching..
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Год назад
Nice machine.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching.
@gbspikyfish
@gbspikyfish Год назад
Always been fascinated by Reeves drives, so to make a DIY version is really impressive. BTW the reason by the background is white at 15:58 is down to the camera's dynamic range; it was metering on the lathe, but at that point there was so much light hitting the floor that those pixels/cells on the camera sensor ended up saturated and appear as pure white.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching and the info on the camera sensor.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Год назад
That's a nice build. I'm sure you will make it run quiter. Go for it.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks Michel.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Год назад
That was very satisfying. The Bridgeport has a similar drive and the motor spring is crazy strong. There are all sorts of dire warnings about releasing the outer sheave without first clamping the spring. It must have been a bit of a blow having to go back to a cut off disc for that 12mm steel stock!
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks Mark. Yes, it was annoying that the plasma cutter did not work. I was looking forward to cutting out the circles. I have another spring coming from a scooter repair shop. It is 4mm so it will be a lot stronger than the 3mm spring which I made. We will see how that goes.
@jeffdenig705
@jeffdenig705 Месяц назад
Seems like a lot of work as opposed to mounting a 3 phase motor and a VFD - off you go!
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Месяц назад
Thanks for watching. Yes it was a lot of work. A VFD would be much easier and more practical. This Reeves drive is not practical for a machine like a wood lathe where you need to change the speed a lot.
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Год назад
Well done. This is almost identical to how my variable speed Bridgeport head works. I do wonder, though, if you will be adding any outbound support on the ends of those shafts.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks. I do plan to add some support at the ends of the shafts. I will likely work on that for the next video.
@eyuptony
@eyuptony Год назад
Brilliant viewing making the variable drive mechanism. Are you going to put a support bearing on the outer end of the motor drive shaft? I think that may help to reduce the noise when running at high speed. I've a old Tauco pillar drill, thought I recognised that badge. Cheers Tony
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching. Yes, I do plan to add some support for the motor and spindle shafts.
@TiredOfY
@TiredOfY 9 месяцев назад
I would probably drill a bunch of holes in both plates and put little shafts through them on the inner side to have them spin synchronized to cause less tear on the belt weld the spring at the bottom to a piece of metal and put a washer to cut the noise down and cause less wear on the spring...washers get thin...just replace the washers
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching.
@cosimosanfilippo9050
@cosimosanfilippo9050 Год назад
Almost forget. When drilling or machining SS of any grade, must use slow "speed" in other for the cutting tool not to rub on it's surface, and a decent pressure must be applied at first go. Idea is that it has to cut straight away in other to instantly remove the metal avoiding rubbing. So the drill or hand hacksaw, or motorised, must spin slow and in case of a hand axel, to be lifted at the end of each cut stroke. great work, I like the idea. Also I would had prepared the shaft while in the lathe to be welded, in other to leave some recession for some welding to be left in the joint for after grinding flat.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for your comments and advise. I think I should have slowed the speed down more as I went up in drill bit sizes. I will probably get back to the SS in another project so I will try a slower speed then.
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr Год назад
I like it a lot, but the bottom shaft needs an end bearing, it is too long and the belt puts too much side pressure on it, as it bends it starts to vibrate, if you support the shaft on the end it would make it much better.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for the suggestion. I think you are right re the shaft needing a bearing. That would provide some stability. I will take a look in to this when I build the box around the pulleys.
@user-fx7nq6jq7x
@user-fx7nq6jq7x 10 месяцев назад
Speed Selector makes variable speed pulleys that replace the Reeves, Hi-Lo pulleys and TB Woods. I think they went out of business or got bought. Most of them are in stock or they can make a custom if needed. They have an actual engineer who was very helpful.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info. I had a look on their site and there is a lot of info on their pulleys.
@richtes
@richtes Год назад
I've become less fond of Reeves drives over the years. 15" Delta drill press has and that seems OK, never change speeds on a 16" DoAll bandsaw (use for wood), but I dislike on a 14" Logan/Powermatic metal lathe. Seems like the machine has too much vibration. Going to order another set of belts and see if that helps, but I miss a 9" South Bend that was so smooth. Gear head lathes seem much smoother too.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching. Yes, gear head lathes would likely be much smoother.
@intjonmiller
@intjonmiller 4 месяца назад
My 12" Logan has a geared head but Reeves drive for initial power transmission and speed control. No issues with vibration from that drive. Substantially smoother than my old 10" Logan. Just FYI.
@ronaldnickell6110
@ronaldnickell6110 Год назад
Would it be possible to turn one of the pulleys over so that both of the stationary pulleys are aligned?
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Hi, thanks for your question. I don't know if that would work, but I have never seen that type of setup before.
@ronaldnickell6110
@ronaldnickell6110 Год назад
I just thought this would keep the belt more vertically aligned instead of moving it diagonally while changing speeds. Some of the cart variable drives have different angles on their belts from one side to the other, therefore the same shallow sides are in alignment. @@thehobbymachinistnz
@TiredOfY
@TiredOfY 9 месяцев назад
you can't this system is pretty simple...you close the plates on one side (top) the belt is just pulled up causing tension and the spring to close when you open the gap between both plates on the top side the spring at the bottom will push inwards causing the plates on the bottom to close basically what happens is when he closes the top plate he's literally pushing the plate out causing the belt to go up and left into the side he's pushing the plate that's why the spring is on the outside to adjust to the belt movement what you could have is an arm link joining both inner top plate and the outer bottom plate so they move together and the belt always be aligned centre this way you don't have to rely on the spring to adjust to tension of the belt and having the belt run crooked overtime when the spring isn't so good and just be on the top side to push the plates apart to bring the rpm's down, that way it wouldn't require as many tune ups to the spring strength as the system in the video would look at amazon for "GearWrench KDS2071" the shaft pushes in expanding the cylinder open you could have another one at the bottom with a spring the principle is exactly the same but again instead of having wear on the belt you would have wear on the shaft teeth that push those cylinder pieces in and on the pieces themselves for a system like the one in the video it's better to have the plates and just the belt wearing out than having to redo the metal parts when they get worn but for the amount of work and overall price spending 45 bucks on a cylinder for an open system like this would be 100 times easier so yeah...each system has it's pros and cons
@ucuy3706
@ucuy3706 9 месяцев назад
Đẹp
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 9 месяцев назад
Thanks.
@timmienorrie
@timmienorrie Год назад
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@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching.
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