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Laura Hall and Sarah Bush - Columbine Survivors 

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@iamthepapi6251
@iamthepapi6251 Год назад
The world is blessed to still have you two beautiful women. Your so gorgeous.
@extra_ice_girl
@extra_ice_girl 5 лет назад
I feel like if I were a parent and this happened to my kid I wouldn't make them go back to the same place where they experienced their trauma. Return to school, yes...but not the campus where it happened. This could be part of why Laura had a more difficult time healing from it than she should have. Being trapped in the same school for another 3 years must have been hell.
@lialove1751
@lialove1751 5 лет назад
Yes most people left to go to Chatfield but others stayed to graduate or finish the school year
@kingatheist7231
@kingatheist7231 4 года назад
I disagree. Avoiding a place won't help you heal. Fears have to be faced in order to move past them. If everyone stopped going to Columbine, then the killers have won even moreso than they already have.
@amirashanell9503
@amirashanell9503 2 года назад
@@kingatheist7231 maybe but when a person has trauma and ptsd it isn’t exactly a good thing to revisit
@kingatheist7231
@kingatheist7231 2 года назад
@@amirashanell9503 I refer you back to my previous comment.
@MsBayley
@MsBayley 2 года назад
@@kingatheist7231 flooding is not a good method to overcome PTSD
@emikoautumn4295
@emikoautumn4295 5 лет назад
Two years ago, Sarah Bush talked at my first Girls camp about being a Columbine surviver. It was so heartbreaking and made me realize how horrible this world is.
@blindsidexv6244
@blindsidexv6244 3 года назад
@2423 6585 stfu loser
@hopies8533
@hopies8533 5 лет назад
I don’t ever leave comments on videos, but for this one I feel I have to. I clicked on this video, after watching a few other short videos about the Columbine shooting, with the intent to just watch a few minutes and go to the next since it’s 30 mins long; however, once I started watching, I had absolutely NO desire to move away from it. You two girls are so absolutely beautiful and amazing, for your courage, strength, for your loving hearts. Im 34 years old and have never had to go through anything even remotely close to the horrific tragedy that you two, along with so many others from your school & community, had to face & overcome, but listening to the both of you speak, I felt some of what you experienced just by your words and voices. Bless you two for being so brave as to relieve those moments in order to speak to others so as to help them get through similar situations. I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you each time you do, yet you continue to do it. That in itself takes such courage, compassion, love, and selflessness. I know that if you two beautiful ladies moved me the way you did, someone who has not been put through an experience of anything like yours & dealt with the magnitude of sorrow, pain, fear, etc that you have; then the times that you have spoken & will speak in the future to others who HAVE been through similar situations..man, you guys have helped, are helping, & will help so many people this way- of that I have absolutely no doubts or questions!!! Thank you so much for being brave, for having such compassion for others, for your kind souls (I mean, they shine so brightly that just listening to you speak shows through to see what great people you are). Y’all are an inspiration. I’m so sorry for everything you were put through, but as you said- you made something great come of it by being so open and helping others. I wish I could know you guy in person bc I just know to have people like you in someone’s life is a true blessing!!
@iamthepapi6251
@iamthepapi6251 Год назад
They are too, These two girls are absolutely beautiful, they are a blessing to this earth.. I'm glad they are still here. 🙏🙏🙏
@kevins9785
@kevins9785 5 лет назад
I live a mile from the school now. It’s an odd feeling knowing if I’d been here 20 years ago I’d have heard all of this happening
@DG-zu5fm
@DG-zu5fm 5 лет назад
Kevin S is it still open today?
@peeoncarl6
@peeoncarl6 5 лет назад
Daniel Galifi yeah it’s still open but since the shooting a lot of stuff has changed. The library where most of the murders happened, was demolished and a new one was built near the west entrance.
@lialove1751
@lialove1751 5 лет назад
Danny 96 yes I will be going to columbine soon and it is very exciting , but it is so sad being the daughter / niece of columbine survivors. They have a new library that remembers the people who died in columbine. It’s so crazy knowing this happened 20 years ago. Also the middle school I go to has a garden called the columbine memorial garden it’s so devastating.
@Bizarro2024
@Bizarro2024 5 лет назад
@M Detlef Calm down, trigger
5 лет назад
Great. Now move back to California.
@lancemilliken9078
@lancemilliken9078 5 лет назад
Two defining moments in my life: columbine and 9/11. Columbine seemed to be the genesis of mass shootings and 9/11 the catalyst for the worldwide terror that has plagued planet earth for the last 18 + - years
@sabercrosby8128
@sabercrosby8128 5 лет назад
there was plenty of terrorism plaguing planet earth before 9/11
@lancemilliken9078
@lancemilliken9078 5 лет назад
Saber Crosby of course there was terrorism, but not on this grand, organized scale that we see now. Isis and the taliban did not have the organizational depth back then that it does now
@sabercrosby8128
@sabercrosby8128 5 лет назад
@@lancemilliken9078 if you're only talking specifically about USA then thats true, 9/11 was first attack on american soil since 1941 but there has been lots of organized large scale terrorism for decades in many western countries
@pezcore2142
@pezcore2142 5 лет назад
the good ole days, when people didnt scream FALSE FLAG at grieving people...
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 5 лет назад
Lance Milliken: exactly as it was desired and planned by the damn Govt.
@SeanWayne-rl3qq
@SeanWayne-rl3qq 5 лет назад
I was 11 years old when this happened. Our elementary school which is not even in Colorado talked about it for weeks . I'm glad you guys are ok that's some gnarley shit .
@JBthree24
@JBthree24 5 лет назад
Sean Wayne 1988 a week later in our school we had a mandatory assembly on bullying and what to do if we hear threats etc.
@SeanWayne-rl3qq
@SeanWayne-rl3qq 5 лет назад
John Michael dame were you at this school when this happened ??? I vaguely remember that happening at my school after this and I'm all the way in California . Most my child hood was a blur but now that you mention this I do recall that . I remember hearing about it for a while .
@gracielakeffer5629
@gracielakeffer5629 2 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing your story. For some reason, the tragedy at Uvalde has affected me more than other tragedies we hear on the news. I needed to listen to your words, and I know it is not a coincidence I came across your video without searching for it. I am currently a junior at BYU-Idaho, my major is Family and Marriage Studies, and I plan to obtain a master's in counseling. I wish you the best and thank you again for your testimony.
@sheresejames-grow1779
@sheresejames-grow1779 2 года назад
God bless you! May you be a great help to families and marriages!
@ZeeGeeBee
@ZeeGeeBee Год назад
Wishing you all the best
@TraumaSurvivorCynthia
@TraumaSurvivorCynthia 2 года назад
RIP to my Stepdad Dave Sanders 😇 who was murdered at Columbine High school on April 20, 1999 along with 12 students!! ✝️ Enough is Enough of school shootings!!✌️ #davesandersstepdaughter
@CatalinaFOIA
@CatalinaFOIA 2 года назад
I'm so sorry 😞 this has been just heartbreaking 💔
@bacaworld7095
@bacaworld7095 5 лет назад
Oh you can see the pain in their eyes still. It still hurts, it’s still scary. It still haunts them. So sad. I hope all Columbine students can keep going and keep finding peace. So sad... I feel deeply for them. Not sure if mom made a good choice making her go back. Sounds like that was horrible.
@jennasittler3142
@jennasittler3142 Год назад
Really crazy they let them back in the state thr school was in: wow
@CT2507
@CT2507 5 лет назад
swat team came 4 1/2 hours later?! wow, i did not know this!!
@lisatucci6100
@lisatucci6100 5 лет назад
They were rescued from the closet 4 1/2 laters, the SWAT team was there well before that....They had to make sure the threat was gone before they helped those that were hiding inside as to not endanger themselves or the survivors and then they had to secure the scene
@CT2507
@CT2507 5 лет назад
@@lisatucci6100 ok, i'm not entirely sure that makes sense. 4 1/2 hours seems way too long. swat teams are like 6-8 people. they go two by two, or three by three. should take them no more than half an hour to secure the entire school. unless they have to stop for lunch and coffee along the way. what do u mean "They had to make sure the threat was gone before they helped those that were hiding inside"? the only way to make sure the threat was gone was to go through the entire school, floor by floor and room by room. there are no other ways. even in the case of booby traps.
@dope3618
@dope3618 5 лет назад
The police and swat (since they were more prepared) were highly criticized at the time for not going in sooner
@nikkilovesualot
@nikkilovesualot 5 лет назад
CT2507 It was the first time something like this had happened I think they really just didn’t know what to do and were in shock,which is quite a shame because some people bled out waiting for them to come help them.
@CT2507
@CT2507 5 лет назад
@@nikkilovesualot yea, it is possible they were waiting unsure what the type of action should be.
@RhiUrso
@RhiUrso 5 лет назад
I was a Senior is High School when Columbine happened and I still think about it often. Thank you for your courage and guidance to others.
@vinny8195
@vinny8195 5 лет назад
Its so creepy I just had a terrible and very vivid nightmare last night about a school shooting and now this pops up in my feed...
@Lalala4whatever
@Lalala4whatever 5 лет назад
It’s so painful just hearing what you went through, I can’t imagine what it is like to have actually gone through it. You two are so strong, and brave and resilient.
@briaunamari
@briaunamari 5 лет назад
The police let these kids down. BIG TIME
@natalieeubank4533
@natalieeubank4533 5 лет назад
You dont think they know that?
@Kwildcat13
@Kwildcat13 5 лет назад
Are you a police officer ? Do you know exactly what happened and why? other then the media ? If not have some respect for the officers .
@briaunamari
@briaunamari 5 лет назад
Kellie Rohleder if not, mind your business. wasn’t talking to you 🙃 But were you there? do you know exactly what happened outside of the media? why hours was waited? Ok✋🏽
@girlfromsouth214
@girlfromsouth214 4 года назад
This was the first mass shooting at at a school you oaf.
@ChaiKarl
@ChaiKarl 4 года назад
@@girlfromsouth214 Except, it wasn't. This was the first very mainstream talked about shooting, sure. But it wasn't the first.
@graycryptosporidium6974
@graycryptosporidium6974 Год назад
This whole thing was tragic, I dident even know these kids but I visited their graves anyway, the one that drew me close was Rachel joy Scott. Now she has a movie and a challenge set at all schools. Very amazing how everyone came together to pay respects. Please heavenly Father watch over our children in all schools around the world and give peace and grace to those who need! Amen
@Glassbak6923
@Glassbak6923 5 лет назад
So proud of your frankness and resilience I am in the uk and don’t really have this sort of thing to deal with, but listening to you both you are strong beautiful women take care and love to u all xx
@emmanoneofyoursdontfuckwit8802
Columbine forever sits with me....Same for Sandy Hook....I have to find ways of getting through both anniversaries.....This is the time to really be there for each other more now then ever
@libra42ful
@libra42ful 5 лет назад
PTSD is such a long-term disorder to endure for individuals that have experienced such a surreal, traumatic, situation, it's a relatively new diagnosable condition.... we've learned so much about how to treat/deal with it nowadays..... it's never going to be easy but I'm so thankful that it's better understood now, and help is available for it....can you imagine what the survivors of the Titanic had to deal with, no one even knowing what it was back then, or very few, it affects everyone so differently, and they had no "name" to put on the feelings they were having.. survivors guilt, I'm sure, was a mind, gut wrenching emotion to feel on a day to day basis for those survivors to deal with, basically on their own....I applaud these two women, they carry themselves quite well when discussing their individual experiences that fateful day, they're very articulate in expressing where their minds were during, and after the experience...I hope they get better and better each day, along with the others also, who lived through the experience that will always be known as "Columbine".....may a higher power guide and comfort you all...all your days ahead
@nankidd3050
@nankidd3050 5 лет назад
There is healing for ptsd..19 years later.yeah not buy or try.l think the dummy they dragged across the frontlawn probably had pfbas.post factory body abuse syndrome .
@charlenegibbons8616
@charlenegibbons8616 5 лет назад
I remember this day like it was last week. I sat in my recliner pregnant with my son, wondering what I was bringing him into. I'm not sure what kind of parents would make their children go back to a school that such trauma happened at but I am very proud of these two women.
@saraschneider6781
@saraschneider6781 3 года назад
Fantastic parents. That's what kind.
@Sassyglbeauty
@Sassyglbeauty 2 года назад
That’s how I felt when 9/11 happened. I was pregnant with my daughter (who was born on 9/27/01). I had gone to see Pearl Harbor that summer and talked about how no one would ever be able to hurt our nation like that again. On 9/11 one of my first thoughts was how very wrong I was. It was such a terrifying time t9 bring your child into a world that surely would be forever changed.
@stephaniegremillion7547
@stephaniegremillion7547 2 месяца назад
I was pregnant with my third child, and it was my 3rd year teaching when Columbine happened. I was pregnant with my 4th on 9/11. I remember just praying that this was the worst our world would experience because I couldn’t stand the thought of my children living through this or even worse events.
@Rose_of_Kent
@Rose_of_Kent 5 лет назад
This tragedy was made so much worse by the inept response RIP Dave Sanders.
@natalieeubank4533
@natalieeubank4533 5 лет назад
You're comment isnt going to help make it better they did the best that they could have at the time
@ChaiKarl
@ChaiKarl 4 года назад
@@natalieeubank4533 No, they didn't
@andreamartsolf356
@andreamartsolf356 4 года назад
I was 14 at the time. I remember seeing on the news and feeling physically sick.
@clicketysplit1817
@clicketysplit1817 5 лет назад
You gals are beautiful. Thank you for this. Recently while on vacation I was compelled to drive through Parkland in South Florida to get a better sense of what happened because whenever I hear of these atrocities they seem all too surreal as they are widely publicized through the media. As I approached the school I felt a sinking feeling of despair wondering how something like the shootings could have happened in such a beautiful Florida town and wondered how young people that are still enrolled there get up in the morning knowing that they are returning to the very place where they lost friends, classmates, neighbors and others to something so horrific. When I was in high school in the 1980's there was a lot of loss and tragedy of classmates loosing their lives to stupid senseless things like suicide and drinking and driving that made my high school years very depressing. Hearing you share your stories of strength and hope really touched me and helped me. Thank you.🙌💖👍
@michaelkennedy8303
@michaelkennedy8303 4 года назад
Nobody but them, and sadly now many other select groups, will ever know what they felt and experienced. My honest love and best thoughts to you ladies and your families.
@oceanstaiga5928
@oceanstaiga5928 3 года назад
The fact that she was ready to go to chatfield high (which is Columbine’s rival) really shows how much she didn’t want to return there. Honestly I’d understand kids changing schools after, being in that school could be very traumatising..
@donnawoodford8145
@donnawoodford8145 5 лет назад
Thank God these two women have each other. No one wants to be a member of this club. One year ago yesterday Parkland, FL school was similarly hit. I wish that mental health was funded more than weaponry in this country.
@katherineleonowski7289
@katherineleonowski7289 3 года назад
What beautiful young women!!! I'm so sorry for what u went thru... Both girls r lovely but the red head with the glasses is gorgeous but looks so sad still.... Wow! What a powerful message of hope... Thank u both... 🕊️
@thtoneguy0321
@thtoneguy0321 5 лет назад
Amazingly strong thx you for your courage telling this story
@TheHeavensFellen
@TheHeavensFellen 4 года назад
These kids were put up on a stage pedestal and leered at by adults below in a crowd as if they were up for auction, and what kind of order or plan was it to separate traumatized children from there parents, isolated at the neighboring library? Not only courageous, but as this testimony is so revealing yet has a similar ring , it corroborates such a dark profiled view of the core of this case, and this info is so important, perhaps its better it is hidden away in a kind of Christian recovery channel.
@odonata9838
@odonata9838 5 лет назад
THANK YOU!!!! This video has been one of the most honest and helpful discussions about trauma and adolescence. I will make sure to recommend that parents and youth watch this for encouragement. I do believe this is the bravest generation. Blessings to you both.
@wonderlessyetwonderfulme8531
@wonderlessyetwonderfulme8531 5 лет назад
Thank you for sharing .This video found me and I am so lucky it did.Love and hugs to you Sarah and Laura x
@johncogburn2590
@johncogburn2590 5 лет назад
God bless you both and your friendship.
@spenserwilkins1381
@spenserwilkins1381 3 года назад
These two girls are very strong💪🏿. To live with something so traumatic. Wow there are very brave to go back into that school . That takes a lot of courage. And they're absolutely right about not letting evil and hate win
@luckydog5200
@luckydog5200 4 года назад
You ladies are so strong!
@GoAskYourMother11
@GoAskYourMother11 2 года назад
I so needed this today. Thank you for sharing your stories.
@siluxkhan6544
@siluxkhan6544 5 лет назад
This is great video. Very interesting.
@wilmalinkous2474
@wilmalinkous2474 2 года назад
God Bless you all. I really commend you all for your courage and strength. Just watching these videos, my heart sank. I truly don’t know if I could survive seeing and going through the horrific tragedy that all of you endured. God Bless you all from Columbine
@THOMASCOGHAN
@THOMASCOGHAN 5 лет назад
thanks for sharing your stories
@eviem70
@eviem70 5 лет назад
I don’t think any of the survivors will ever be truly ok. What a tragedy and it breaks my heart what all these poor kids went through, especially their parents wondering if they’ll ever see their children again. Coward sob’s!!! May they rot in hell for eternity
@debbydoes1
@debbydoes1 4 года назад
@@alexfriedman1255 Sorry but Dylan doesn't deserve to rest in peace, hope he is in hell
@alexfriedman1255
@alexfriedman1255 4 года назад
Debby Blanchard sure. But its like the lords prayer. Forgive them for they no not the real damage they are doing. I personally feel bad. Hes got a ton of bad karma wherever he went to....
@debbydoes1
@debbydoes1 4 года назад
@@alexfriedman1255 They did not value human life and decided to kill innocent people. So not only did they kill, but they also caused unspeakable pain and suffering to so many families. I feel for all the victims but have no sympathy for soulless cowards like this. JMO. I am curious, do you also feel bad for people like Gacy, Dahmer or Bundy?
@alexfriedman1255
@alexfriedman1255 4 года назад
Debby Blanchard not as much because they were literally children 17 y o with demons. Idk what your experiences are but there r demons that drive people. I feel bad for all of them. They will suffer 10 fold with bad karma while the innocents get grace and forgiveness. Feel bad for all of them.
@Pt0wN973b0iI
@Pt0wN973b0iI 5 лет назад
They both grew up to be VERY Beautiful young women!
@standup2982
@standup2982 5 лет назад
They both grew up to be very STRONG women.
@sah7456
@sah7456 5 лет назад
endmisogyny now omg shut up 😂
@standup2982
@standup2982 5 лет назад
@@sah7456 what's your problem?
@sah7456
@sah7456 5 лет назад
endmisogyny now people like you. Get a life, “end misogyny now” 🤣 oh boy.
@standup2982
@standup2982 5 лет назад
@@sah7456 go fuck yourself 🖕
@constantine7953
@constantine7953 2 года назад
When I was in the shooting that happened at the school I went to we also had a very busy intersection right outside it.. in the chaos and panic a group of my friends and I laid out in a ditch by the school and after a few minutes we were convinced that the shooter was going to follow us out the back doors because the person he was going after came out badly injured asking us for help.. we didn’t know what to do but we called 911 and paramedics came to take care of her but we ended up running across the busy road into an apartment complex to get away because we didn’t know if the shooter was following us still and everyone else was heading that direction. The people driving on that road had about the same reaction to us running haphazardly through the road… they honked and were angry at us until they saw the chaos.
@traceyszostek6264
@traceyszostek6264 2 года назад
These beautiful girls are using their traumatic experience and turning it into a giving and helping hand to ones who need healing strength within.
@amberw.8229
@amberw.8229 5 лет назад
My daughter is a freshman at East Aurora High School in Aurora Illinois and someone wrote a threat in the boy's bathroom which said that the shooting will b worse than Columbine😢on May 10th. So only half of the students attended school on that day and there were a lot of police officers walking around in and outside of the school. They're going to b on high alert until the end of the school year hoping nothing happens🙏🏼
@honiotes1
@honiotes1 3 года назад
6 older siblings of mine went to East Aurora H.S & me & my oldest brother went to Aurora Central Catholic H.S.
@amyfreeman3276
@amyfreeman3276 5 лет назад
Beautiful strong ladies! ❤️
@spike16965
@spike16965 4 года назад
I so remember this I was 14 in the 8th grade and it was just crazy. Seemed all school went haywire after this catastrophe.
@danielbaugher826
@danielbaugher826 5 лет назад
The world needs Jesus 🙏🏻😇
@rolandherenow3134
@rolandherenow3134 5 лет назад
Maybe, but it also needs free healthcare, less weapons and warfare, and an education system that teaches people to think for themselves.
@samanthakoutny2711
@samanthakoutny2711 5 лет назад
🤦🏼
@erickt8732
@erickt8732 4 года назад
Amennnn my brother!!!
@spike16965
@spike16965 4 года назад
If anyone says those boys weren't bully is flat out lying. Kids get bullied and they snap. Bullying needs to stop. It doesn't justify what they did, but it could have been prevented
@eej1983able
@eej1983able 5 лет назад
This is so horrific. God bless you two
@shineefive
@shineefive 4 года назад
bless these women. hope they're doing okay
@MrScabtree
@MrScabtree 4 года назад
I was 17 at the time, even in England us goths got accused of being in the trench coat mafia
@jkephart4624
@jkephart4624 4 года назад
Yea accusations got out of hand. Most people didn't realise that trench coat mafia wasn't really a gang . I had people try to tell me they were in the tcm. I was like I'm from Denver just don't lol
@keypatterson6770
@keypatterson6770 Год назад
I was in 8th grade when this happened. I remember watching the news in class, just crying. I wanted to just hug everyone.
@dnv1225
@dnv1225 3 года назад
i was a freshman when Columbine occurred. in the aftermath we had officers stationed in the school. we had bomb threat drills. I remember all the news coverage of April 20, 1999. It was scary realizing that I was the same age as some of the students
@destin-e.blu3rainsinthefac37
@destin-e.blu3rainsinthefac37 3 года назад
Faith over fear. The battle of the mind over fear must be overcome with faith.
@thegamingkitchen8429
@thegamingkitchen8429 3 года назад
They look like sisters. Hope for more healing.
@gvtimj
@gvtimj 5 лет назад
Very difficult circumstances for so many psychologically as well as physically. The police/SWAT whatever failed miserably on that day. Their insistence, for lack of a better term, on perfect circumstances IAW their written tactical procedures of SOP is a horrible excuse for lack of effort. Having a person (teacher Patti Nielsen) inside the school on a 911 call already risking her life as it all transpired feeding critical information and the police with their terrible excuses for lack of effort. They knew right away it was students. They knew exactly where they were. They stood outside and did nothing. No one wants to die but courage is absolutely necessary in these situations. There is no sure 100% thing. Standing around outside doing nothing shows lack of courage and also costs lives. About the best thing I can say for the police is they played it safe. Hooray for them! It is the single factor that cost lives under those circumstances. Being a police officer or even a soldier is not for everyone. Courage makes a lot of difference. Yes, I was a soldier for over 20 years.
@paulaschroder2076
@paulaschroder2076 5 лет назад
Timothy J.. You wrote that you were a Soldier. I would like to thank you for your service. I believe you have insight with the tragic occurrence. You are absolutely correct with your comments.
@aneemal15luvr
@aneemal15luvr 5 лет назад
Playing devils advocate here, but to be fair this was the first major school shooting, and protocols were different as they had no insight as they would today. Yes the did fail, and could’ve done much more, however that can’t be fixed now, and can only be used to help shape the following and future tragedies. Also, it wasn’t just active shooters, there were bombs as well, which can change the way they approach situations.
@gvtimj
@gvtimj 5 лет назад
Understand and you have valid points. But they had inside communications. What I guess bothers me is they seem to feel they have a written SOP plan for every situation encountered. Not true and not even close. Sometimes a plan comes about on the fly because lives are at stake. These officers took absolutely zero risk and responded in manner where what they truly believed what they THOUGHT would happen was actually going to happen in reality if they just waited around. "Sure we will just wait until they give themselves up and everything will happen IAW our biased plan we rehearsed." No, the real world doesn't work that way then and certainly not now. Bombs? Perhaps, but there was also helpless innocent kids and teachers in those buildings and they eventually did go in hours later. The bomb threat did not scare them then did it? They were not even sure what the status of the perpetrators was when they eventually went in hours later. So what was the difference between going in later and right away? Time, precious time was the difference. They had communications, they knew about Mr. Sanders too. Nobody was asking them to send in the entire police force they had outside either. About 10 right away could have went in and made a huge difference. You are right, nothing can be done now other than lessons learned for future encounters. Many of our young men and women in the military took their sworn oath and attacked objectives without fear of the unknown. With courage and integrity. Courage is as old as time itself. Gathering the best possible intelligence and taking action, same thing. Unfortunately the price that is paid for taking no action is often twice as bad from taking immediate action. We thought those planes on 9/11 would land and make hostage demands as scripted. Did not work out that way either did it? America waited and more lives were lost.
@ballet07
@ballet07 5 лет назад
Amen brother
@aneemal15luvr
@aneemal15luvr 5 лет назад
@@gvtimj I do see every point you're making, and agree with most as well. However, I personally cannot feel immense hatred for the officers, as I know the intensity and uncertainty of the situation caused utter chaos. Also, I'm sure there were responders who did want to immediately run in, but regular deputies are not trained for situations such as these, and probably wouldn't have helped the situation severely, as they could've been easy targets themselves, going in unknown. Originally they thought there were 8 gunmen, and that amount of threat calls for a larger operation. Thats where SWAT comes into play, and when they arrived, they pretty much immediately got into a shoot out, while Dylan and Eric shot from inside the building at the team on the lawn. So I do recognize there was some sort of immediate response. But going back to my bombs point, I also forgot to mention much of the doors were also booby-trapped, and a large percent were chained or blocked. So there was a significant amount at play, during an already unfamiliar and unexpected situation. Finally, regular police officers do not receive as much training as soldiers or special tactical teams unfortunately, and thats a problem with America itself, not just the officers who participated during Columbine. I am not American, but as a human being I appreciate you for your service and bravery to fight for your country.
@Greencloud8
@Greencloud8 4 года назад
I was 17 when columbine high school shooting happened. I have lots of family all over Colorado and high school age at that time. A cousin of mine went to college with one of the students he always smoked the same brand of cigarettes that he did in high school.
@stephaniemullins8114
@stephaniemullins8114 5 лет назад
I remember the story of the columbine shooting on the news, I cried
@bobbieandrews7032
@bobbieandrews7032 2 года назад
I am so sorry this happened to the bouth of you God bless you both and all the victims and all the Family's just wanted to God bless you all.
@buckit099
@buckit099 4 года назад
Awesome
@burner1499
@burner1499 5 лет назад
❤❤❤❤
@giannacosto9587
@giannacosto9587 Год назад
I remember that day. I bought a remberance bear to help the school rebuilt. These girls are so brave to share their story.
@chass5438
@chass5438 4 года назад
My first Cousin was a survivor.
@mes7moon
@mes7moon Год назад
Thanks for sharing girls. I wasn’t even there but watching it unfold on tv, I have been afraid of guns ever since & vowed to never shoot one again, even tho I had hunted with my Dad when I was younger, after that, I just couldn’t do it anymore & had an experience while hunting without a gun, after that, hearing those shots took me right back to that & my Dad saying I looked white as a ghost coming out of the timber after that. I don’t ever want to be around guns again. I’m not even sure why it affected me so much, maybe because it was so tragic, first school shooting, & cousins living close to Denver too, not sure but it affected me states away living in Iowa.
@amberhennessey66
@amberhennessey66 5 лет назад
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Rara-pr9wg
@Rara-pr9wg 3 года назад
Just imagine being there for hours not knowing
@Ro6entX
@Ro6entX 5 лет назад
I was out of HS few years (different state) but had the same kind of trench-coat the shooters had. Once i found out their group name, i threw it away out of respect for the victims and their families.
@jujuonps5636
@jujuonps5636 4 года назад
Eric Harris why are u acting like eric harris lmao
@mollierainbow3486
@mollierainbow3486 3 года назад
@Eric Harris your behavior is childish and disrespectful to say the least. Grow up.
@ImagesofJosephSmithJun.
@ImagesofJosephSmithJun. 5 лет назад
Are these girls LDS? Just curious... (edit-- then I watched all of this and found out that they were, we definitely have our own language and terminology). I wasn't in a school shooting, but UCC was in my hometown and had a brother, many friends were attending that college when it happened and it tore me up... I couldn't imagine the horror of being a student and having your security blanket, your sense of safety ripped out from under you. I really appreciated everything these girls have said... It IS okay to have emotions, to have anger, sadness and JOY... Love you gals!!
@juliadunne
@juliadunne 5 лет назад
Hahah I totally thought "these girls HAVE to be lds...." until she said she went on a mission. It's funny how you just know. Things like "count your blessings" and stuff like that made me think they were! :)
@zx9green791
@zx9green791 5 лет назад
Yes they are i know them personally.
@johnny1963ify
@johnny1963ify 3 года назад
What's lds?
@mars6855
@mars6855 2 года назад
@@johnny1963ify latter day saints
@johnny1963ify
@johnny1963ify 2 года назад
@@mars6855 OH!
@baileyhi7290
@baileyhi7290 2 года назад
P.O.V you are having an obsession with columbine right now
@akex2563
@akex2563 4 года назад
I watched a couple columbine videos now I’m being reccomdnded columbine and other school shooting videos
@mariekatherine5238
@mariekatherine5238 3 года назад
No way would I send my child back to that school.
@lindsaysaunders7346
@lindsaysaunders7346 3 года назад
Agreed! How uncomfortable and terrifying
@AmyMorales0712
@AmyMorales0712 2 года назад
Here we are in 2022 talking about the same atrocities in different decades 😔
@ZeeGeeBee
@ZeeGeeBee Год назад
Ugh it’s so sad and ridiculous
@jjones6503
@jjones6503 5 лет назад
Sara Bush...grew up to be super beautiful
@kimberlymartin4528
@kimberlymartin4528 5 лет назад
Alligator tears? Weird description. But you two are very brave women. I wish u all the best.
@truthsmith1752
@truthsmith1752 5 лет назад
My family says it all the time!
@michellenainkristinabusch1221
It's a term for very large tears.
@theaoffrink1650
@theaoffrink1650 5 лет назад
My middle school just this year had a threat written on our bathroom wall. I’m not surprised there were high schools too. She thought it was funny. Anchorage ak is a mess
@dxp96
@dxp96 5 лет назад
I forgot this happened on 4/20, that cant be a coincidence, they had to have chose that date for some reason.
@jodythompson1969
@jodythompson1969 5 лет назад
I want to hear the stories of the survivors, & knowing what they went through makes me understand what they went through It's Soo sad know a days it's become much worse Parkland survivors said their peace saying enough is enough!!
@dxp96
@dxp96 5 лет назад
@@psalm5175 also forgot that's his birthday, most likely reason
@tracy4019
@tracy4019 5 лет назад
Hitler’s birthday
@Choices2aa
@Choices2aa 2 года назад
Laura Hall & Sarah Bush are survivors of April 20th Columbine Massacure and they managed to heal through that ordeal and The police could have saved more kids and those kids saved themselves. Its one day at a time. The Library got the worst of it and 12 Students died and one teacher. Dave Saunders was a hero and he saved alot of people. Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold were the two shooters that terrorized Columbine and they killed themselves in the Library. That school was never the same again and Columbine High School was the school everyone talked about. If I heard loud booming sounds in my school I would ran out of there. The survivors were never the same when that happened in Columbine and the only reason why everyone was talking about Columbine was b/c there was 2 shooters not one. Then years later Columbine High School received another threat and then a bomb threat. These ladies managed to deal with alot and they survived. Now these people are all grown up and they have kids of their own. They still bring their kids to school even though school shootings are going on and some of them are even teachers at Columbine. The colors of Columbine are White & Blue.
@3376855
@3376855 5 лет назад
Are they sisters?
@shizzenshiz
@shizzenshiz 2 года назад
How common was it for high school kids to have cell phones at this time period?
@ZeeGeeBee
@ZeeGeeBee Год назад
Not very common, I am around their age .. early 2000s in when cell phones became more prevalent
@michellenainkristinabusch1221
It wasn't. Cell phones were very expensive and still pretty rare for anyone
@emt7887
@emt7887 5 лет назад
Cringing at all the young people commenting on this video. Have some respect for the tragedy and educate yourselves, jfc.
@RLucasReviews
@RLucasReviews 5 лет назад
The sickest part is the killers wanted everyone to still be talking about their killing spree 20+ years down the line. They wanted people to copycat them so, in this really sick way folks honor them by memorializing the horrors they caused. I remember when this first happened, we were concerned with the amount of coverage and footage that was available on the event. Everyone said it would help us identify the behaviors so we can avoid this type of thing in the future. Well, all of that footage turned into just what we thought it would...fuel for copycats.
@intuitivegoddess1525
@intuitivegoddess1525 Год назад
4 hours of agony im sure. Feel horrible for that girl. Id be traumatized.
@orphanrafferty1955
@orphanrafferty1955 4 года назад
4 1/2 hours... Try 30 something years. We're up to 4 or 5 about now.
@honiotes1
@honiotes1 3 года назад
why was the swat team even there! These kids saved themselves.
@brianlast9832
@brianlast9832 5 лет назад
Kids don't bully those kids meant business
@WaffleAssasinX3
@WaffleAssasinX3 4 года назад
That's not why they shot up the school tho
@83prettyblack
@83prettyblack 5 лет назад
Basically these kiddos had to fend for themselves,with this you had no idea who would survive and who would not
@alexanderh9878
@alexanderh9878 Год назад
Who knew this act was going to become a fixture in American society.
@sololuisvlogs
@sololuisvlogs 2 года назад
I think what happen that day was the first mass school shooting. Today we see school shooting like it is a normal thing . Sad but true.
@tinaandersen3270
@tinaandersen3270 5 лет назад
I am only watching to watch a different point of view
@tinaandersen3270
@tinaandersen3270 5 лет назад
WOW!
@cykadelic
@cykadelic 5 лет назад
nah
@spike16965
@spike16965 4 года назад
This could have been prevented thats the sad part
@Choices2aa
@Choices2aa 2 года назад
I remember Columbine April 20th 1999 and where I was and it was unreal and 9/11 . Columbine was tip of the ice berg and then 9/11 blew everything to hell in September 11 2001 and the world hasn't been the same since and everything went to shit everything. I was called names like a terrorist and a bitch and it was bad. I was afraid for my life. I still am.
@Choices2aa
@Choices2aa 2 года назад
The police could have saved those kids earlier instead they waited for 4 hours and did nothing! WOW! Those kids saved themselves and it was scary during that time on April 20th 1999 and it was big news when Columbine High School was shot up by two teens and it wasn't just one it was 2 shooters and everything all went down in the library and I remember hearing the story of Rachel Joy Scott and Isiah Sholes and how he wanted his mom. 12 Students and one teacher died thank god the bombs didn't go off there would have been more deaths. These ladies managed to go through alot. God be with them.
@jeremysmith9694
@jeremysmith9694 5 лет назад
I don't wanna make light of this at all but i was totally thinking, they seem kind of LDS. then when the one testified of what her sister said, i was like oh wow, that's so sister missionary. And then you are! That's awesome. Thanks for the video. I just watched another survivor video of columbine and he was LDS too. Makes me believe God really knew what was happening then and had strong ppl go through it.
@juliadunne
@juliadunne 5 лет назад
I SO thought the same thing. The whole time I was like, wow, these girls just have to be LDS, and then she said she served a mission. I am so grateful that God was there for these girls
@megaazy07
@megaazy07 5 лет назад
What does LDS mean
@zx9green791
@zx9green791 5 лет назад
The church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
@kingatheist7231
@kingatheist7231 4 года назад
Repeated blatant prior warnings... unresponsive law enforcement... still easy to get nearly any gun... gee I wonder what the problem is.
@stefansnellgrove
@stefansnellgrove 3 года назад
Are they sisters or friends
@kevinmcdonald951
@kevinmcdonald951 11 месяцев назад
Sisters.
@Otonosekai
@Otonosekai 2 года назад
When US Americans agree to possess weapons and not to alter their gun laws , their mentality and their attitude the violence will not decrease. I am so glad that the most countries in Europe especially Germany have very strict gun laws, I am so glad that Germany is one of the countries with high standards of inner security because the German government takes good care of its citizens. Germany has a very low crime rate and a low rate of incarcerations, death penalty was abolished after WW II and later in whole Europe (with the exception of Russia). I don't feel pity with the US because the Americans create their own reality. Greetings from Europe, Germany!!!
@spaceboyhappy
@spaceboyhappy 5 лет назад
Worst policework EVER
@antihackergrlnow
@antihackergrlnow 5 лет назад
I feel bad for you girls, why did they prop the library door open? They could have snuck them out that way. Rather then just sit out there and listen to what's going on. They waited around, why for? I think I even read an article that said one of the shooters was cornered behind a shed, why didn't the guard stay with him and take him to psych or jail;? Maybe I read it wrong but I was also 14 when I heard about this, but I was in texas at the time. Ironically I was also at lunch hour.
@sabercrosby8128
@sabercrosby8128 5 лет назад
there was actually an exit door at the back of the library, the students escaped through there when the shooters left the library. I believe if teacher Patti Nielsen hadn't of told the students to get under the tables, the kids would have exited through the back of the library when they heard the gunshots in the hall getting louder as the gunmen were approaching
@paulaschroder2076
@paulaschroder2076 5 лет назад
@@sabercrosby8128 No! Really?! I didn't know that!! The students should have escaped. I don't think hiding under a desk gives much protection!
@sabercrosby8128
@sabercrosby8128 5 лет назад
@@paulaschroder2076 its natural instinct to flee but they listened to an authority figure Patti Nielsen who then opted to hide in a safer place than the kids. Unbelievable
@LauLauWF
@LauLauWF 5 лет назад
Saber Crosby I can never understand why Patti ran, after being shot at, and didn’t bother to close the library doors behind her? Even if she thought they were running after her, locking the library door would still seem the best idea to create a barrier between you and the shooter. I’m sure she feels terrible about that even now, but it just seems like the logical thing to do, to close doors as you go.
@lauranorwar
@lauranorwar 5 лет назад
The person they cornered behind the shed was not one of the shooters, though it was originally reported that he was.
@kevinmcdonald951
@kevinmcdonald951 11 месяцев назад
I hope they find Jesus and leave the mormom cult
@Otonosekai
@Otonosekai 2 года назад
PS: In the history of the Federal Republic of Germany only 3 amok runs on schools did happen: one in the 1960s in an elementary school, One in Leipzig and one in Winnenden. America gave a bad example to the world!
@kellymcdonell9687
@kellymcdonell9687 2 года назад
Well, Germany is the size of just one of our states, so it’s not fair to compare all of the United States to one small European country.
@Otonosekai
@Otonosekai 2 года назад
@@kellymcdonell9687 It is fair to compare: 1.) The amount of the German population (82 million people) is a quarter of The US (330 million people). Germany is one of the biggest economies in the entire world (1. USA-2. VR China-3.Japan-4. Germany). and at last: In Germany exists very strict gun laws ( like the rest of Europe). Nice greetings from Germany, dear Kelly!!!
@HanHanMC
@HanHanMC 5 лет назад
So are you guys related in some way or just good friends? Kind of confused
@eltwilli
@eltwilli 5 лет назад
They're sisters.
@lemongrass4387
@lemongrass4387 5 лет назад
both
@paulaschroder2076
@paulaschroder2076 5 лет назад
@Phil Roach How do you know?
@tinaandersen3270
@tinaandersen3270 5 лет назад
Sounds like they are sisters
@amberhennessey66
@amberhennessey66 5 лет назад
Sisters
@IEMac6
@IEMac6 5 лет назад
polka dot shirt girl looks like Wynona Ryder
@rolandherenow3134
@rolandherenow3134 5 лет назад
Yeah, that's why they put the video up: so you could pass the Wynona Ryder recognition test in case it came up as part of your higher education.
@haleyalexis7453
@haleyalexis7453 5 лет назад
No she doesnt
@steveevans4299
@steveevans4299 2 года назад
For sensible suggestions on Gun Control in the US, see also: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7dGaLRsgofQ.html
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