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Laurel Canyon Episode 6B - "The Frank Zappa Conclusion" (with Tom Mix/Houdini) 

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The conclusion of the sixth episode of our Laurel Canyon miniseries, by Wolf River Music Television. A Journey Thru History and Song 1965-1974 explores the inner workings of the music scene that seemed to explode out of this area north of Hollywood in the mid-1960's and featured legendary musicians and groups such as: The Byrds, The Mamas and The Papas, Buffalo Springfield, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, CSNY, The Doors, Frank Zappa, Carole King, The Eagles, Gram Parsons, Love, Jackson Browne, The Monkees, etc. plus music industry giants such as David Geffen, Elliot Mintz, Jim Ladd, Ron Stone and Paul Rothchild. See the famous Canyon Country Store, Love Street, the Tom Mix Cabin, the Houdini Estate, and all of the other places made famous by the likes of Jim Morrison, Cass Elliot, John Lennon and others. We'll even touch on some of the darker elements that were lurking within the shadows such as the Manson Family and the inevitable evils of cocaine and heroin and they crept into the scene, causing havoc and destruction. No matter how many times this subject of music coming out of Laurel Canyon has been repeated in other documentaries, there's always something new to learn and discover. The stories are endless and some of it can be surprising and even downright shocking. Please be sure to watch all ten episodes. Each one has a different theme and a different set of characters and events. www.wolfriverm...
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@Genjo_N_Mojave
@Genjo_N_Mojave 2 года назад
*I cooked a Steak for Frank, his Wife and Don Van Vliet when they arrived in town here in Lancaster, in a Rolls-Royce Corniche, to shoot a cover photo for their LP Bongo Fury. Frank ordered his steak blood rare 10-seconds each side. He then watched me cook it to ensure it was to his specifications. That album cover to Bongo Fury was shot in the old Fosters Freeze ice cream parlor. I imagine they probably frequented Fosters in their days in high school together. A few years later Captain Beefheart befriended me, and I used to drive him to go drinking and listening to music.*
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow that is an awesome story. Thank you for sharing it! I can only imagine how intimidating that must have been to have Frank Zappa looking over your shoulder like that while you were cooking for him. And the conversations you must have had with Capt. Beefheart must have been truly remarkable. He was an "interesting" fellow, from what I have read.
@Genjo_N_Mojave
@Genjo_N_Mojave 2 года назад
@@memoryfield A year after the steakhouse incident, I went to work at Denny's. The first time I saw Don in Denny's, was around 2 am when the bars closed. He carried an artist sketch pad, every time all the time, and He drew incredible eccentric pictures with a wide tip magic marker! He was kind of gruff, said very little in a deep voice, which intimidated all of the waitresses, but yet he had a very kind gentle soul. He was a bit drunk, and for some reason did not care for the hamburger I cooked for him, because he tossed the entire burger at my head but missed, and it splattered against the wall. I laughed hysterically, and turned to see see who tossed it, and Don laughed in return. I went to the counter seat where he sat, and kindly asked him if something was wrong with the burger, and would he care for something else on the house. He said no, it just didn't hit the spot, and I wasn't hungry after all. He had only taken one bite out of it. An hour later I took a break and made two hot fudge sundae's, one for myself and a complimentary one for Don. He said why did you make me this, I told you I wasn't hungry. I introduced myself and explained I was his cook when Frank and himself came into the steakhouse a year earlier, and since you guys shot the Bongo Fury album cover at Fosters Freeze ice cream parlor in town that day, then I assumed you liked ice cream. He said "don't assume anything in life". I agreed with him, and mentioned how neither You or Frank seemed very overjoyed with your ice cream on the LP cover, I may of made a bad assumption about your choice of ice cream, but I guaranteed him the Sundae I made for him was superior to Fosters, and there was not a collection of expended gum stuck under the counter or tables, and no chewed gum stuck all over the floor, like there was at Fosters. He laughed again and I made a good friend that night, and turns out he enjoyed the ice cream and thanked me, then he left. Don never said much and I never pressed him either. I knew he needed to draw and didn't try to bother him either. I told him anytime he came to Denny's during my graveyard shift, he would have a free meal waiting for him. He thanked me, and he returned almost every Friday and/or Saturday nights. A few months later he quite coming into Denny's and I ran into him again shortly after that. (**Story continues below). The waitresses who felt intimidated gladly allowed me to wait on him and serve him too. I think because Don was a known local celebrity, eccentric didn't know how to read him, or treat him. He smoked alot too, and at first he wouldn't respond to them when they asked him if he needed more coffee. When he was entranced in his drawings they didn't understand to leave him alone, until he asked for more java. One night I ran into him at a disco night club of all places. I sat down beside him at the bar bought him a drink, and he said- it's you again, have you been hit with a hamburger yet? When the bar closed he asked the bartender to use the phone to call a taxi. I told him I'd be glad to give him a ride home, which I did, and I wrote my name and phone number down and gave it to him. I told him whenever he needed a ride anywhere, to call me on my days off, and I'd be his free personal taxi. He took me up on that offer quite a lot for a couple of years. He called me the cook more than he ever did by my name. The only way to stay in his grace was by reading him, by only speaking when he initiated the conversation, and most importantly to never interrupt him while he was drawing. At the same disco one of my friends had his car stolen out of the parking lot, and wound up in a fist fight. Don said- the shit people do over fucking material possessions, and shook his head. He was truly an incredible mind, artist, musician and friend. The eye through which he saw life itself was truly unique and one of a kind.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@Genjo_N_Mojave All I can say to that is.... wow. I hope others take the time to read what you wrote here. Thanks so much for sharing so much with us here. Rock on!
@Genjo_N_Mojave
@Genjo_N_Mojave 2 года назад
@@memoryfield Truly my pleasure, and yes with Frank looking over my shoulder he appeared like a giant, and I was shocked I could even count to 10!
@Dzanarika1
@Dzanarika1 2 года назад
@@Genjo_N_Mojave looks like you had constantly been on his tail 😁 I would have been very much annoyed by your kindness.
@mrnobody3161
@mrnobody3161 5 месяцев назад
Frank Zappa was reportedly to have had an IQ of 210. He was a Rhodes Scholar and a self taught musician. Frank didn't drink or do drugs, but he was a cigarette chain smoking maniac. Frank's Son Dweezle, who also plays guitar, regularly tours playing Complete Albums of his Dad's Legacy. My wife and I went to one of his concerts 4 years ago and it was Fantastic! Dweezle spoke about the the arrangements of many songs with lots of personal memories of growing up as Frank Zappa's Son. 🎶✌️👉🇨🇦🎶
@charleslehner7521
@charleslehner7521 4 месяца назад
Dweezil
@charleslehner7521
@charleslehner7521 4 месяца назад
Zappa Plays Zappa😮awesome player of difficult music...
@pjbear8656
@pjbear8656 2 года назад
I lived in the log house in the basement, next to the bowling lane. It was communal living in the late sixties. I was there the night the huge (oldest) eucalyptus tree in the front yard fell from days of rain and blocked Lookout Mountain Road. We all had to move after that.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow, what a time to be alive. So much personal history in that place. I'm learning more about these houses from the comments section than I would ever learn anywhere else. Thanks!
@johnpatrick1086
@johnpatrick1086 2 года назад
Did you ever see any of the Manson family at this house?
@JIMLAS65
@JIMLAS65 11 месяцев назад
For more in-depth information about Zappa and other artists in Laurel Canyon please read Dave McGowan’s book “WEIRD SCENES IN LAUREL CANYON.” All is not as innocent as it seems
@charleslehner7521
@charleslehner7521 4 месяца назад
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@patrickpeel3374
@patrickpeel3374 2 года назад
A friend of mine and I. Took LSD And tripped out at the Houdini‘s mansion across the street from the Mix house. A bunch of Mexican gang members showed up and were throwing rocks at windows and remains of the burnt out house that Houdini used to live at. We ran across the street to the log home and knocked on the front door. Frank Zappa answered the door. We told him about the gang that was following us up the driveway. Zappa told us to come in his house. He then confronted the gang. He told them to leave. Or he would call the police. They ran away. Then he offered some tea and we spent some time talking. He was really cool. I grew up in Studio City. And had many bazaar experiences in Laurel Canyon and Hollywood in the 60s
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow. Almost sounds like Zappa may have been part of the trip! LOL.
@harri7416
@harri7416 Год назад
Care to share some of those stories?
@larrymysliwiec6301
@larrymysliwiec6301 2 года назад
I was introduced to The Mothers of Invention in about 1967 when I bought the Freakout LP. My first concert at age 15 was in Chicago with the Mothers opened for Cream! I specifically came to see the Mothers, and wasn't disappointed as it included all of the cool members in my mind like JC Black and Ray Collins etc...They became one of my heaviest influences (I'm a drummer and drummed with Iggy in the early 80s) and I followed Zappa's music throughout the years afterwards. In about 1972 (I believe) me and a friend took a trip out to California, and we had to find the Log Cabin. We did, thinking Zappa still lived there. Fantastic to see even though we later learned he was long gone from there. Great series! Wish there was more.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Awesome stories, Larry. Thanks for sharing! Just curious if you remember what was going on there at the old Zappa place in 1972. It hadn't burned down yet ('81) but Frank was gone by that point. Who and what was going on there at that time? I don't think it had started to go downhill yet until about '78 or '79, but maybe it was before then.
@MissPerriwinkle
@MissPerriwinkle 5 месяцев назад
im so grateful i had some love affairs in laurel canyon......georgous and mysterious it is.
@shootfirst2097
@shootfirst2097 Год назад
I just can't imagine how great it would have been to live in Laurel canyon from, say, 1920 all the way to the early 1970s. Just a Shangri-la. Of course, there are tons of fascinating places in L.A. like Malibu, Topanga, etc, and California in general, but to be a teenager in, like, 1964 and living in Laurel Canyon for a few years during the music scene would have been fascinating. I worked for Zappa for a few years starting in 1989 up on Woodrow Wilson Drive and used to drive through the Canyon doing errands for him and marveled at all the hidden history I knew had occurred back up in those tiny roads and driveways.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
That's incredible that you were able to work for Zappa. Hopefully it was a great experience for you. What was he like on a normal day?
@shootfirst2097
@shootfirst2097 Год назад
@@memoryfield He was very wrapped up in his work. I would bring him lunch and he'd be dozing in the synclavier room and I'd just leave his Ernie's Tacos order on the table. I remember them having the company Christmas party at the practice studio in N. Hollywood. And Frank was just sitting by himself on a footstool against the wall by himself while everybody else was talking eating, etc. I thought, "Wow, here's my chance to have a conversation with FZ, but what can you really say to him? He hated those kind of forced social occasions. Even though he didn't do "drugs," he would have Margarita Night on Friday at the house and be drinking with people like Matt Groening and his engineers. I was just a gofer, but I enjoyed my time in L.A. Always wanted to live there since I was a kid.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Crazy cool information. Thanks so much for sharing! We love hearing inside information from the people who were actually there with these musical icons of the time.
@cathygiuliana9089
@cathygiuliana9089 2 года назад
In February 1973 my husband and I moved into an old mansion that was said to be built and owned by Tom Mix. It was a beautiful old place but in poor condition. We we re hippies back in the day and expecting our first child. When you walked into the mansion there was a large mahogany fire place that was breathtaking. The mansion had three floors and was divided up into furnished apartments that went for $45 a week. We moved out in December of 1974. The elderly owners died a year later and the place was sold and demolished a few years later and a high rise was built in it’s place. The address was 150 Summit Avenue, Cliffside Park, New Jersey. Tom Mix really got around. What a shame that all that beautiful woodwork in that place was destroyed. I hope that someone removed that fireplace before the house was demolished. Thanks for the memories! I love your channel and enjoy your content. I a 70 yr old widow with three children that grew up in the sixties and your videos bring back so many priceless memories. Can’t thank you enough!💕🙏🏻🌹☮️
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Hi Cathy. Wonderful story and thanks for sharing. I'm wondering if by chance that mansion you're talking about may have actually shown up in one of the photos that was included within this video (?) Take a look again at this video at the 4:40 mark and see if that's the place you lived back in 1973.
@cathygiuliana9089
@cathygiuliana9089 2 года назад
That’s the house! Even the windows are the same. When you walked through the majestic doorway there were ceilings that were three stories high with a winding staircase and rooms on every floor that were rented out as furnished rooms. We had a furnished apartment on the third floor. The floors on the first floor lobby with the grand fireplace were marble. The first floor was occupied by the owner an eighty yr old lady and her son. There were four or five other families or single people that occupied the rest of the house. There was only one apartment on second floor, with a long hallway and windows only on that side of house. It was a beautiful old house but it was the strangest piece of architecture I’ve ever seen.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow, that is totally awesome! And I'm glad we were able to find this for you. Thanks for watching and commenting. Please come back and visit with us again, Cathy.
@CitizenCardigan
@CitizenCardigan 2 года назад
I was in that house before it burned down. The Tom Mix/Frank Zappa Cabin. I watched the fire from the roof of my house on the corner of Stanley Hills Drive and Lookout Mountain. It was an old hunting cabin above the castle.
@augustusbetucius2931
@augustusbetucius2931 Месяц назад
So *two* houses in the same little patch of ground *both* burned down on Halloween night twenty-one years apart? What a coincidence. Again, the level of detail, the amount of research and degree of information is so far beyond what almost everyone doing this sort of historical documentary does. It's been a genuine pleasure to watch.
@bobc.5698
@bobc.5698 2 года назад
Tom Mix died not far from where I live. He died near Florence, AZ. Weird thing is that there is a military base there. Also one on Lookout Mtn. Wonder if Houdini and him were spies. Lol.
@Mumsgardenoasis
@Mumsgardenoasis Месяц назад
it's funny, when i lived in hollywood then venice beach in the 1970's i would use laurel canyon as a short cut to the valley because there was LESS traffic! and it was a nice leisurely country drive in the middle of the city. LOVE this docu series. some absolutely great photos. much appreciated. and the history too. THANK YOU .....
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Месяц назад
Thank you so much for the nice comments and thanks too for watching. So glad the series brought back some great memories.
@supergrogg
@supergrogg 7 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the video. Some things of note: The log Cabin burned down during the day and not at night. I saw it burn from my parents house. In "the real Frank Zappa Book" he explains that it was the guy pulling a gun on him at the log cabin that was the last straw. Also in the book, Frank was sitting in his kitchen with Jagger and his wife and he fell off his chair from being drunk. Zappa was not mad but commented, "Maybe you should come back another time." Also in his book, he smoked pot a hand full of times, but said it never did much for him. Fun fact: I lived on the property of "the mansion" during the RHCP recordings. Fawnya (RIP) was the owner and had amazing stories. When Hendrix rented one of the rooms, she said, " nice boy, but he played his music too loud." Famous "squatters" on the log cabin property: Charles Manson and the legendary, Robin Hood. Great work on the video!
@michaelhance8402
@michaelhance8402 4 месяца назад
Enjoyed this video the second time around even more, I always wondered what it was like for Frank to live out there back in the late sixties. Never even realize how close it was to all those popular musicians & magician....
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 3 месяца назад
So glad to hear that you enjoyed the series. We had a great time making it and yes, it was a bit surreal to be there at the very spot where the old Tom Mix Cabin/Zappa house used to be. The property has an interesting vibe to it, even though the house is about 90% gone at this point.
@elkigirl123
@elkigirl123 29 дней назад
I was always fascinated by this piece of land due to the history and wanted a better look at the little grottos etc but never went in. Recently I read that that organization that works to preserve wild parts of the hills had succeeded in buying it thanks to donations for it to be preserved as natural habitat for neighborhood critters and managed by the park service. I noticed that Danny Hutton of Three Dog Night, Graham Nash, and Nurit Wilde were among the donors. 💛
@mikefannon6994
@mikefannon6994 2 года назад
Back in the summer of 1971 there was an all-day concert in the old Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta.. Zappa's band was one of the featured acts, along with Allman Brothers and Ten Years After. We were up in the upper deck, playing Trivia, trying to stump one another. No-one knew the name of Tom Mix's horse. Half hour or so later Zappa's band came on-stage. After tuning up, Zappa stepped to the mic and said "Tom Mix's horse was Tony". We were astonished! Our little trivia question had made it all through the stadium to Frank. Your video explains how he knew the answer. Thanks, enjoying your work!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thank you so much, and yeah, that is a crazy story. Man, I would love to be able to get into that place and find all the old tunnels... I bet Zappa knew where they were too!
@fjcara
@fjcara 2 года назад
Great stuff here. My uncle and aunt and cousins lived way up at the top of Lookout. One of the old legends was some guy lived in the "Houdini Mansion" AFTER it burned. Supposedly the house was still viable; no electricity or running water of course; but intact with furniture and artwork still left from way back when. I haven't thought about that wall that was along Laurel Canyon in decades!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Yeah, he was a mentally unstable guy who called himself Robin Hood and legend has it that for about 10 years he did his best to actually keep what was left of the place from being completely ransacked by vandals. They finally tore the mansion down in 1970 because it had become a danger to the public.
@mikedemike5393
@mikedemike5393 Год назад
Some of these tunnels were used when they entertained guests and if the have certain picadilloes then their desire can be transported from the other location to the main house...
@catherinecepuder3520
@catherinecepuder3520 2 года назад
Drive respectfully all ye who pass through here! This area is of significance and rich in historical detail. Love this series! Thanks Billy and Wolf River Music Television!💗🤗
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Ha ha. Thanks so much for watching and for your comments! Much appreciated. :)
@mpf7371
@mpf7371 2 года назад
I just came back from staying up in Laurel Canyon at an Air B & B. It was awesome seeing all the classic houses
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Sounds fabulous. Yes, it is a fascinating place. Thanks for watching! :)
@rockerchick4368
@rockerchick4368 2 года назад
I WANT TO DO THAT
@sherylbeamer7189
@sherylbeamer7189 6 месяцев назад
I’ve been to this property but it was pretty blocked off and the thing that really sets your videos head and shoulders above all others is your fabulous drone footage ( paired with your inexhaustible research and detail!) absolutely amazing! Thank you! 👏🏻💕
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for saying so. The drone footage was risky but I love a great challenge, lol!
@1369vmsmith
@1369vmsmith 2 года назад
Just my two cents here but Captain Beefheart was a wonderful musician. His Clear Spot album is to this day a favorite go to record.
@switchbladeactiondance
@switchbladeactiondance 2 года назад
Beausolie was supposed to play on that I've heard whispered around.
@anima6035
@anima6035 Год назад
Love the captain
@autistic.adventurer
@autistic.adventurer 2 года назад
Just watched the entire series, absolutely fascinating. L.A. is on my bucket list, especially Laurel Canyon. On a side note, my great uncle featured in an episode, I won't say who he is but he is from Northern England.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
That's fantastic. I think I have a pretty good idea who your great uncle is. :)
@autistic.adventurer
@autistic.adventurer 2 года назад
@@memoryfield he isn't a beatle so that should narrow it down a bit 😜 I have only met him a few times when he has been back over here but he is a genuinely lovely bloke.
@sonixmusic2799
@sonixmusic2799 2 года назад
Salford? :)
@autistic.adventurer
@autistic.adventurer 2 года назад
@@sonixmusic2799 Yes ! The house got demolished years ago, it was called Skinner Street my mum says but now is called James Henry Avenue.
@yarazooom
@yarazooom 2 года назад
my boy friend Appelbaum lived in that tunnel til 68 when he moved into Vito clay studio. Vito was Zappa mentor who convinced him drugs were for 'jive turkeys' in early 60s. Vito encouraged frank to move there. I've heard MANY stories from friends about celebrities cavorting with hippies & lots of drug adventures at the 'castle' the 'cabin' the 'cave' & the bowling alley. also some of the girls at the 'school' used it to escape before that time. stories of Hendrix & Jaggar buying LSD, junkies OD-ing & musician 'communes' for free-love living. life was very much in the 'underground' not so much at the recording studio
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thank you for that added insight. Very much appreciated. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@steveellis9004
@steveellis9004 2 года назад
I will be sad to see the end of your mini series. Thoroughly enjoyed every episode more than once. Roll on your possible future excursions to the Flower Power era of San Francisco ? Greetings from the UK. Peace out. 🙂
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Well at some point I have to move on to the next big project! I think I might still have enough footage for 2 more LC videos at this point.
@steveellis9004
@steveellis9004 2 года назад
@@memoryfield That's great. John Mayall lived in the canyon, I believe. Also, anything more about Canned Heat or Neil Young is always welcome. You have what you have in the can though so... If you released a collection of your videos on DVD, to AMAZON, I would definitely buy. You could do another series about LC up to 1980. Ronstadt, the Eagles etc. No pressure then....thanks for the stuff so far...a big thumbs up from England. 👍
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@steveellis9004 yeah, Mayall lived out there but lost his house in a fire in 1979 along with everything else he owned. Very sad. About 20+ homes burned in the Grandview Fire.
@scotth6814
@scotth6814 2 года назад
You spent so much time on Frank Zappa. Strange that I've honestly never ever heard a single song of his, even though I grew up at this time and have albums of virtually all the other people you talked about (The Byrds, The Doors, Linda Rondstadt, The Beatles, Stills, Nash, Young, Joni Mitchell, The Mama's & Papa's, Carole King, etc.). It's like he never existed.
@darlenegriffith6186
@darlenegriffith6186 2 года назад
I am like you. Grew up in the late 60s & early 70s - maybe only heard one song of Frank Zappa's. I think quite a bit of his music was underground, and therefore catered to a unique and smaller audience than the artists you mentioned.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Yeah, Zappa was never going to be mainstream and I think that was by design. The only hit he ever really had (Valley Girl) was done as a complete joke. I've definitely found his audience to be small but extremely dedicated.
@pjbear8656
@pjbear8656 2 года назад
That’s funny, I saw all of those people live except Carole King, but I did wait on her at Somethings Fishy at Topanga Beach, and Linda Rondstat and Governor Brown when they were dating. 70’s. Yes Zappa was Not conventional.
@MrStuVW
@MrStuVW Год назад
I lived on this property, worked with the Crosby Brothers, I was a caretaker and worked clearing the overgrowth from the many walkways, trails and stairs along with nurturing it all. Pauline Butcher is a friend of mine and told me there were absolutely No partying going on just lots of music work as we all know good and well Frank didn't do drugs. Now when I lived there is another story at night on my own time lol I mean, the Birdhouse has a dungeon and if you follow the spring water you end up across the street at Walkers place, where Houdini hung out! That was his escape from unwanted groupees or what we've been told!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Wow. So glad to finally hear about that from someone. There are rumors about the tunnels but it's been hard to get any confirmation on how many there were and where they started and where they went.
@augustusbetucius2931
@augustusbetucius2931 Месяц назад
Oh, I forgot to add this - Pauline Bird, who was his secretary for several years, and lived with Zappa for the *entire* duration of his time at the log cabin, has stated emphatically that there "were no parties" at that house. Zappa would not have put up with it. She said it was more like a monastery than a family home, that they had to tip toe around him all day, as he worked constantly. She did say that rock stars and freaks would visit, there would be family squabbles, the Mothers would rehearse, but that was about it. Definitely no parties.
@lexpeters735
@lexpeters735 2 года назад
Once again, an absolutely fascinating episode. Please don't say sorry when you digress from the subject. I now look forward to them. Buy all means, digress.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Funny, this actually sends some people into a tizzy. Thank you for having the ability to deal with all the details, LOL. I'll keep on digressing. :)
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 5 месяцев назад
Around 1994 , maybe 1993, the CBS soap opera The Bold and The Beautiful had a storyline where the patriarch Eric Forrester bought a house for his third wife. It was located in Holmby Hills and was supposed to have been a place where Houdini lived. Later the wife ended up keeping a hostage in the secret dungeon she discovered, complete with posters from the Houdini Museum in Appleton Wisconsin. Guess the writers didn't do much research, too bad this video wasn't around then. 😊 Thanks, really interesting 🌞
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 5 месяцев назад
Haha, that's crazy. Sounds like somebody took bits and pieces of some of the facts they had managed to gather up and then just ran with it all in a different direction. The Houdini connection here has been changed and distorted way too much over the years and I think some people have attempted to capitalize on it by making claims that he lived in places that he really didn't. Thanks for watching!
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 5 месяцев назад
@@memoryfield If you know anything about the narratives and storylines of this popular daytime drama, then none of this is a surprise. 🙂 People rag on the writers, but churning out these storylines certainly must come with pressures, so in a way mistakes are understandable. And it is fantasy after all. Grateful for your dedication, blessings 🌞🙏
@johnhackley1626
@johnhackley1626 2 года назад
I used to date a girl that lived there and hang out in the log cabin house before Zappa rented it. It was a girls foster home called the Le Bough house (pronounced "Le Bo" not sure of the spelling) Ivan and wife ran it and just out the back door in the car port was written "Ivan the Terrible" by one of the girls on the rock wall. It had a huge multi level living room and the bowling alley in the basement. I met Zappa one night at the Pioneer chicken stand on Sunset.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow, that's some first-hand experience and living history for sure. Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your experience!
@scottfaragher1774
@scottfaragher1774 5 месяцев назад
One of the best documentaries I've ever seen about anything. I also love rickenbacker. Gr8 job.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 5 месяцев назад
Wow, thank you! Very nice comments. Two Rics over here and I love them. Thanks for watching!
@rockerchick4368
@rockerchick4368 2 года назад
MISS PAMELA NEEDS TO SEE THIS! SHE WAS THERE. SHE HAS A FEW PHOTOS, WITH FRANK IN LAUREL CANYON.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Sounds risqué!
@barmanamok5600
@barmanamok5600 Год назад
I have such an odd, circular connection with Zappa. I grew up in Lancaster, Ca. I went to Antelope Valley HS as did he and Van Vliet. I even had a science teacher we both shared who went on a crazy rant on a hot late spring afternoon bitching about how Zappa was a loser just like we were going to be. I may of been the only one who knew who he was talking about. i spent a lot of time in the mid 80's engorging myself on the punk and I guess you can say now, alternative music scene. Many nights in strangers places all over LA, including Laurel Canyon. Heard a ton of stories, made a couple minor poems myself. Turned 21 and joined the Conservation Corps, stationed on Requa mountain overlooking the mouth of the Klamath river. My supervisor lived in Westhaven, near Trinidad. One day, he reached out to a neighbor that he wanted to introduce me to while we were on Moonstone Beach.. Don Van Vliet. John told him where I was from, and we spent an hour chit chatting about the oddness of being weird people growing up in a weird world where people tried to be straight as possible. He wasn't exactly kind or lovable towards me, but desert people can really embrace their distance. Soon after, I moved to Santa Rosa, trying to find a path. I had given up on the hard playing life, but two people I got to know were Terence McKenna, a person that in the hallucinogenic world many know, and Carl Franzoni. Carl, honestly, I was always creeped out by. I got close with his daughter for a while, but Carl, even though he was always cool with me, never was able to break into my trust. I had met Vito as well, same feeling. I freaking admire Zappa, I admire Beefheart. They are tough people to admire, honestly. Part of it is how they could allow some real creepers to a part of their lives. I know i am all hindsight on this. I wasn't there, but I have always had this odd wanna love, should I love thing with Zappa. Music is crazy amazing, just get all tied up in other things
@MrBmick79
@MrBmick79 Месяц назад
It'll peel the paint off your car and wreck your windshield too. I don't know how the people do it but I guess they do. Cuz they're all still there. Even Johnny Franklin too. In the village of the sunnnnn"
@allonepeople6602
@allonepeople6602 Год назад
At 10:10, there is a question as to whether there were tunnel links between the "houdini property" and the Tom Mix Cabin on the other side of Laurel Canyon Blvd. I can tell you that THERE WAS definitely a tunnel from the basement of the Tom Mix cabin that went under Laurel Canyon Blvd and we were told that it went to the Houdini guest House across the Blvd. The tunnel was caved in about 10 or so feet past the end of the room, As I remember, there were a few steps down and then a turn kinda left and then clearly a tunnel opening. In that basement part of the house, There was a one lane bowling alley, a walk-in safe, that was my room after Jerry left, and a beautiful sun room, that was Timmy's room.. We had band practice in the room, what was a room sort of inside a cave with a door, you can still see it there across from where the house was. We auditioned at the Troubadour. Magus. I was 17. I remember that Three Dog Night lived up the street as well. I lived there with a bunch of other musicians, Mark Harmon's sister and a few other folks were in and out as renters. This was in the early 1970s
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Man, I love it when I hear things like this. First-hand information from people who have actually seen these tunnels and know they were there. I can't tell you how many people have argued this point with me, mainly in comments that were so profane and stupid that I ended up deleting them. I had someone tell me that Tom Mix never actually owned or even lived in the "Tom Mix Cabin" and that they had been in the house with Zappa and they could prove that the tunnel(s) were a myth made up by people who lived there as a joke just to make the house seem more mysterious. I think there is a really good possibility that the tunnels are gone now though, because when they were rerouting Laurel Canyon Blvd. its been said that the tunnels were repurposed by LA County as a part of a more modern underground water drainage system. Either that or they were in the way and were just simply destroyed. Thanks so much your comments and the very valuable information and knowledge of the local history. Tell us more if you can!
@allonepeople6602
@allonepeople6602 Год назад
Timmy and I thought of ourselves as Lee Michaels and Frosty, but we weren't as accomplished. The people who rented us the property, which I believe was 1300/month, said that the tunnel had caved in somewhere under the boulevard and that the city filled in mostly in end to end as a safety issue. We played everyday in that cave with carpet on the walls for sound deadening. I used to walk around during the day on those stone pathways on the hill, rebuilding a little here and there. At one point, it had to have been such beautiful gardens and fountains and such.
@sunbeagle9769
@sunbeagle9769 2 года назад
I find all of the fires of L.C. history to be quite suspect.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Lots of arson, that's for sure. And those narrow streets make it hard for the fire trucks to get in!
@NJcruiser
@NJcruiser 2 года назад
I love reading and hearing the stories in the comments from people who actually lived or were around that area during the time that all of these musicians lived and worked in Laurel Canyon. Adds so much to the story. I am amazed at how rapidly the Mix house seemed to change occupants during the 67/68 period before finally deteriorating.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Yes, those are my favorite comments too. From the people who actually lived in the area at the time. It really helps to tell the whole story!
@villadavid164
@villadavid164 2 года назад
There is rich culture and music history in those hills! The future albums of the famous bands were percolating long before they were released. Whatever rock'n'roll parties were happening are in fact important because so it resulted in rich culture.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Yes, very well said. Thank you so much for watching and for your comments.
@adriansear3518
@adriansear3518 4 месяца назад
Awesome work! Amazing insight given by your unreal knowledge of the area. Many thanks.
@stevenbeasley1189
@stevenbeasley1189 2 года назад
OMG - this episode (6B) was like scratching a 30 yr ITCH!! I recently took some pics over the fence at the Mix/ Zappa location. Didnt try to get on the property. Im usually the first to jump a fence when any old Hwood history is at hand. I might go back and try to find that former road that snaked up the hill, and you did a segment from there. Thank you so much, really! Great friggin research, too!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thanks Steven. Good luck with all that, lol. Also know that there is actually what looks like a junky old hobo camp up on that vacant (Houdini) lot on the part that flattens out a bit, which I'm assuming is also part of that old road bed. As for research, well, it's only as good as your sources and I found out later that I'm probably a bit off on the date of Frank's arrival at the old log cabin by a couple of months. But whatever. I also typed in an address wrong on a different house and somebody called me on it. So, it happens. Little details sometimes get the best of us.
@stevenbeasley1189
@stevenbeasley1189 2 года назад
@@memoryfield I also dug your RICKENBACKER and VOX t shirts. I have 2 Vox amps. I was co-lead guitarist/harmony vocals in Andrew Gold's band for the last 5 yrs of his life. He knew a lot of these folks..Cheers, S.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@stevenbeasley1189 hey, right on. Was that with Bryndle, then? He surely would have known David Geffen and Linda Ronstadt for sure. Awesome. I have a Vox AC30 and a couple of Ric 360s and I've had them now for almost 30 years. Love them. Recorded with them for so many songs and albums.
@stevenbeasley1189
@stevenbeasley1189 2 года назад
@@memoryfield No, this was his Byrds of a Feather band, which doubled as the Andrew Gold band. I took Jeff Foskett's place when he joined Brian Wilson full time. Then Andrew decided to concentrate on his solo stuff.Here on YT is the encore of a Andrew Gold house concert we did in 2006. DRIVE MY CAR. Im on the Les Paul. Rosemary Butler to the left of me..Ive had a couple of Rick 12s over the years, but they were also the first to go when I needed $$, because they were kind of a one trick pony. I have a 60 watt Vox ad60VTX that I usually gig with. Came out in 2004. A single 12". Really love it. Then I have the full Trolley set-up (ha!) 100 watts w 2 12"s piggyback. For larger gigs. (What larger gigs?).
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Hey that looked fun. Can't go wrong with The Beatles. Nice harmonies!
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 5 месяцев назад
Very enjoyable video series and hats off to you for revisiting these and correcting anything you found to be incorrect.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 5 месяцев назад
Thank you and much appreciated!
@larryboyle1249
@larryboyle1249 Год назад
Okay, cool, I’ve made it this far in your series. Impressive story telling done in a style I find cool. Thanks for the fun.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@lifelover515
@lifelover515 2 года назад
I love the way your due diligence goes way beyond the music the canyon is famous for and really digs into the ever changing history of the place. I took a drive up there once many years ago on a brief visit to LA. Of course I didn't see much because I had no idea what I was looking for and was ignorant of the secluded nooks and crannies, so this series is especially enlightening. Same with the fabled Mulholland Drive. All I saw was hills and security gates. I do remember it being very busy though. Frank Zappa's self-styled mission to collect and record as many eccentrics and deviant artists as he could on his Bizarre label made him a magnet for all kinds of weirdos, I think, and it was wise for that family man to get out of there.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Yeah, for as much that allegedly went on there at the Log Cabin while Zappa was actually there, it's amazing how short of a time he was even there. I originally thought it might have been more than 6 months but I've since found out it was actually just about 4 months. That's it. Then he got wise and they move over to the other side with more security.
@donquixote3927
@donquixote3927 2 года назад
@@memoryfield: Not read thru all the comments, yet Billy so forgive me if this has already been straightened out. ‘Freakout’ was recorded in early 1966 and I’ve always had the impression that the Zappa’s were established in the Canyon about that time. I’m no journalist so I’ll just pose the question; could they have had two separate stays at that address?
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@donquixote3927 No, not at the Tom Mix Cabin. I found out later that Zappa had been renting a place over at 8404 Kirkwood Drive in LC with another lady-friend but he actually met Gail at a party at that same house on Kirkwood. I ended up re-editing one of these episodes and updated a lot of info that I only found out AFTER I had posted the original video. It was driving me nuts that I had new information and it had already outdated part of Episode 6. So I re-posted the new video!
@donquixote3927
@donquixote3927 2 года назад
@@memoryfield : Finally watched them all now. I didn’t want your series to end.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@donquixote3927 Are you aware of the new series that just started a little more than a week ago? Only 3 videos so far, but a whole bunch more planned. ru-vid.com/group/PLMGnMaveEzflBmzxiEulkEvqRFVutO0sw
@phillipgraves4721
@phillipgraves4721 2 года назад
Wow, that was good
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thanks for saying so!
@mjt5576
@mjt5576 2 года назад
This is a fantastic series!
@user-xk4wj6ge5b
@user-xk4wj6ge5b 2 года назад
Zappa was a mad Leb. Crazy. Crazy
@tommyturner2140
@tommyturner2140 2 года назад
I am a major Zappa file so I found all these comics quite interesting about people that actually live there just underscores the fact that Frank Zappa and his family were just regular photo trying to make it just a different type of profession LOL
@deheckler
@deheckler 2 года назад
There's a Vid on uTube somewhere of Zappa using a bicycle to play Percussive Orchestrations on during a Steve Allen Show!!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Sounds like him! Awesome.
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 2 года назад
You beat me to it. I was just going to suggest that.
@avrutunes
@avrutunes 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QF0PYQ8IOL4.html
@theajones6080
@theajones6080 2 года назад
Thank you for these videos. You've brought to life, and enhanced the images I've had, from all of the books I've read, on all of these people. I'm sure a lot of work and passion went into these well done and informative videos, and it shows. Were in the midst of an snowstorm here in West Virginia, and coming across these gems, has been a genuine blessing.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for watching them and we're glad you found us. Hang in there over in WVA. Pretty chill here in Utah right now.
@theajones6080
@theajones6080 2 года назад
Lol, I bet it is! It looks beautiful too.
@marcosuruguayo
@marcosuruguayo 2 года назад
Best content of youtube so far. My uncle use to live at Ridpath Dr. 8560 and I spent couple of summers up there back in 98-2000. But didn´t know all this cool information at the moment, but I felt the high vibrant energy of the Canyon tho. Greetings from Panama. Saludos!!!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Very cool! Thanks for your comments and glad to hear from you again. :)
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Looks like you were right up at the very top and the end of Ridpath Dr. in a nice quiet little spot. That must have been a great and secluded place to be.
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 Год назад
I never had much of a grasp on what Zappa's music was about but I love his online interviews. I can relate to beef heart. When I got kicked off a methadone program and cut off I didn't sleep for 4 months.
@Moonie804
@Moonie804 2 года назад
Terrific episode, thank you so much 💖! It's the perfect video for my endless fascination with the Log Cabin and the Laurel Canyon area. Other famous residents you didn't include were Vito and his Freak Dancers group, who were living there in the treehouse and in the basement just before Zappa moved in - also with the LA team of The Oracle paper. There's also this horrible story of Vito's little boy, Godot, who died falling down the roof during a photoshoot, but it was never clear to me if it happened at the Log House or elsewhere... Anyway, thank you again, I *loved* your docuseries!!!! Hi from Italy
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Well, I had to condense all the stories into something a little more manageable and had to start somewhere and find an ending point. Otherwise, these 8.5 hours' worth of videos could have turned into about 20, LOL! Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments.
@1369vmsmith
@1369vmsmith 2 года назад
@@memoryfield Hey Billy feel free to expand this to 20 or 30 or 40 hours lol. We love what your are doing.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@1369vmsmith I'm about to....
@dawn-joy
@dawn-joy 5 месяцев назад
Found your channel and have been watching this wonderful series. It seems Oct 31st is mentioned quite often, makes you wonder 🤔
@typhoon2970
@typhoon2970 2 года назад
Watched this three times ! You're the best. Thanks for the hard work...
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow, thanks! That's awesome and please keep coming back for the new videos too.
@muggymug
@muggymug 2 года назад
Well, can you tell what was in the fireplace since I can’t? “Did you see that”? Uh no.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@muggymug it's the artwork on the tiles. Still there. Look at the picture of Mick with the artwork behind him. Then my photo from 54 years later. Artwork still there.
@typhoon2970
@typhoon2970 2 года назад
@@muggymug Do tell......
@l.a.gothro3999
@l.a.gothro3999 Год назад
I love hearing the bird songs in the background.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Yes, the area actually reminds me a lot of Queensland, Australia, on the coast. I was lucky enough to live there for about 18 months way back in the early 90's.
@bobc.5698
@bobc.5698 2 года назад
I think I remember Gail Zappa mentioning in an interview something about a big tree in front of the cabin. That might be the tree in the 1920 pic. It most likely burnt with the fire in 81.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Probably so. Looks like it was very close to the original house.
@pjbear8656
@pjbear8656 2 года назад
Actually, the tree fell down before the fire. I was living there at the time. The bottom floor flooded from days of rain which caused it to fall away from the house as the roots came up through the tree house apartment and kitchen ( tree house ) and demolished it. The Eucalyptus tree was celebrated every year as the oldest one in ( I believe ) California. The experience was very scary.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@pjbear8656 Wow, that is a crazy story. Thanks for sharing!
@sisterstonerock
@sisterstonerock 2 года назад
thank you, Billy!! ❤️
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
You are so very welcome! Thanks for being here. :)
@Anthony-ck2dc
@Anthony-ck2dc 2 года назад
When Lowell George was briefly a member of Frank Zappa's Mothers,Frank allegedly told Lowell,"Dude you have little feet",which supposedly transformed into the name of Lowell's band,"LITTLE FEAT".....
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Zappa seemed to have a hand in just about everything that was going on out there in that canyon!
@FeatnikSF
@FeatnikSF Год назад
It is well known that Jimmy Carl Black made that comment, not Frank. Lowell spelled it FEAT in homage of the BEATles. (I met Lowell in the parking lot after a Mothers of Invention 'Freak Out' in 1966 when he had a psychedelic band The Factory. I knew Jimmy Carl Black when he had a band called Geronimo Black.)
@lab4389
@lab4389 2 года назад
Great and informative vlog! Thanks!
@meereslicht
@meereslicht 2 года назад
Wonderful documentaries on Laurel Canyon. The music made here also defines the soundtrack of my childhood and it is true that this lovely music was profoundly bonded with the places where it was composed. The detail with which you take us to those places and reconstruct this link for us is remarkable, an achievement on your part. Btw I had the privilege to attend the world premiere in Berlin of Frank Zappa's The Yellow Shark, in 1993, while I was studying there. He was due to conduct his important symphonic work, but sadly he felt already too ill to travel to Berlin after he had conducted the work in Frankfurt and delegated the task to another director. He died soon after that.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing those comments. That's a great story and Zappa was truly one of a kind. Great talent!
@lugginnuggins5798
@lugginnuggins5798 2 года назад
Great video. I wish you could keep making these!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
That's the plan! Just a different topic. Something inspiring and epic, hopefully.
@darlenegriffith6186
@darlenegriffith6186 2 года назад
@@memoryfield What would really be interesting is if you could get out to Greenwich Village in New York and do a series on the birth of the folk movement in the early/mid 60's.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@darlenegriffith6186 If I could afford to quit my real daytime job, and do things such as this full time you can rest assured I would be in New York to do just that and then San Francisco, back to LA, and probably Chicago, Nashville, etc. etc. Probably will never happen though, LOL. But thanks for the suggestions!
@richcolgate8929
@richcolgate8929 Год назад
Excellent!! 👍👍
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Many thanks!
@augustusbetucius2931
@augustusbetucius2931 Месяц назад
As a hard core Zappa-phile, I'd have to say he would have balked at the description of him given here. It takes some degree of cajones to even try, as we could counter many of the things said about him here. For one, he was anti drug, true. But he did admit to using pot on two occasions (see the Real Frank Zappa book). He said it put him to sleep, and had no interest in ever using it again. His attitude about drugs was the result of people not being able to rehearse, or perform live, because they were too high. This cost Zappa money, which was always a concern for him. He had no problem with what people did on their own time, including drugs. It's important to note that he never thought of himself as an individualist, a non-conformist, satirist, etc. He said on many occasions his music was simply the product of what entertained him, and what he liked. As for being a family man, he was also a real dog when out on the road, and it was something Gail made it clear in interviews, that she had a hard time living with. It clearly hurt her, and she carried it until her death. There's the now famous story of how Valley Girl came to be. It was the result of Moon slipping a note onder the studio door, asking Zappa if he remembered her, his daughter. Valley Girl was a way for the two of them to spend some time together. Zappa was, like so many of us, a walking mass of contradictions. It's interesting that you hear Freak Out as raw and unpolished. It doesn't sound that way to me. The playing was well rehearsed, and the sound was the result of what sounds like the sound of the room they recorded in, and a large amount of plate reverb. I've always thought it sounded very smooth sounding, as a result of the room sound and reverb added to it. You should have mentioned that the fall he took when pushed into the orchestra pit lowered his speaking voice by a whole step, to a minor third. If you think Beefheart was weird, you should check out Wild Man Fischer. He was too weird for Frank to deal with, and he could deal with a lot.
@markroughley1815
@markroughley1815 2 года назад
Another cracking video Billy! Love the series and your stories. Have been able to catch up these last 3 episodes watching back to back and have loved them all. Sad to think the next one might be the start of the end.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thanks and welcome back! There's quite a bit left. Working on it now.
@harryyarrow4110
@harryyarrow4110 2 года назад
Great documentary.So much history,but conveyed in an interesting way.🕳🙋‍♂️
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it and please come back again!
@dianne19610
@dianne19610 2 года назад
Another great episode.So glad I found your channel!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Welcome aboard!
@stephaniecowans3646
@stephaniecowans3646 2 года назад
Well, I'll be damned! For years, all the times I drove over Laurel Canyon, every time I saw the ruins of the Walker mansion, I always thought it was the Houdini mansion and would shiver a bit cuz it looked so spooky.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Well, they call it the Houdini Mansion anyway because he did spend some time there with Walker. But since the other house was smaller (and gone) it just seems way more dramatic to call the bigger place "The Houdini Mansion". That original Walker place is gone too, lol. We've all been duped!
@user-np1ri5ei2p
@user-np1ri5ei2p 3 месяца назад
Fascinating. Thank you.
@anthonyperez3139
@anthonyperez3139 2 года назад
Came across your channel by chance ,I saw the segment on the the “bird house” So much you don’t know about the place every thing from hidden passages , secret observation points false walls /floors .a wine cellar /dungeon (chains an all )with a stream that runs through it to keep the wine cool . Much of the house was built from an old wood sailing ship found on the property . Aside from the 14 kt gold and precious stone hot tub . And the painting of Wyatt Earp over a certain wooden chair … so much history Brings back so many memories . It’s a shame to see the place soo run down
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Wow, I had never heard all the info on the Byrd House but that makes me want to look into it even more. I have observed that there is a house very close by where someone seems to be coming from and entering the property and either they own it or they've been hired to keep it up. It does look like it's kind of being worked on, or at least being cleaned up. The pool used to be filled with debris and I saw that someone had finally cleared all of that out of there. So maybe there's hope for that old house yet.
@kenzoby8300
@kenzoby8300 2 года назад
That was extremely enjoyable and informative! Thank you for that!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. :)
@matapeake
@matapeake 2 года назад
Totally terrific series - BRAVO!!!!!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thank you, kind sir!
@DWHarper62
@DWHarper62 2 года назад
Actually, it was Gail Zappa who ultimately wanted to leave Laurel Canyon as she saw the Manson cult hanging around and after seeing them walk through the canyon, she had a chill go through her body and made the move shortly thereafter, before the Tate murders...
@Moonie804
@Moonie804 2 года назад
That's what I heard too. I believe it's in the Pauline Butcher's book too...
@sr2291
@sr2291 Год назад
I hung out in Hollywood and lived in a park there and don't remember ever seeing Manson.
@DWHarper62
@DWHarper62 Год назад
@@sr2291 So you never saw anything, so it never happened...
@sr2291
@sr2291 Год назад
@@DWHarper62 Did I say that?
@DWHarper62
@DWHarper62 Год назад
@@sr2291 Then why comment?
@wendymcgrath7561
@wendymcgrath7561 2 года назад
Very Interesting ..... great story behind it all. Thanks for this.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it and happy to hear that. There will be more! :)
@MrUndersolo
@MrUndersolo 2 года назад
As a devoted Zappaphile, I thank you for this one. And I am not sure if you have heard if it, there was a memoir written by Pauline Butcher, which covers her time in the Log Cabin as a secretary, assistant and sounding board for the whole family ("Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa").
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
I have heard about it yes and hopefully it will be the third one I read about him and those days back in like '67-'72. Thanks for watching!
@tommyturner2140
@tommyturner2140 2 года назад
I read this book about 4 or 5 years ago, but I had to ask the library to order it for me LOL. Faulkner county library in Arkansas by the way haha
@chebrneck
@chebrneck 2 года назад
This is a good one!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! Much appreciated.
@victorhawkins3461
@victorhawkins3461 2 года назад
Don't forget that Beefheart (real name Don Van Vliet) was a high school running buddy of Zappa's up in Lancaster/Palmdale. These vids are quite, quite good, Billy.
@Genjo_N_Mojave
@Genjo_N_Mojave 2 года назад
*Indeed, they returned to Lancaster to shoot the LP Cover to Bongo Fury. I was fortunate to meet them both that day when they pulled up to the old and now defunct Happy Steak. The restaurant was empty when they pulled in!*
@dianejames1625
@dianejames1625 Год назад
were hooked !
@julietrask7497
@julietrask7497 2 года назад
Love the coyote shot at the end running across the road with the drone, nice catch! Ah Zappa another military kid. Are you going to delve into that common theme ?
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
No, too many other people have already been down that route with a lot more research than I'd ever be willing to do. I don't think I would have anything to add to that set of theories.
@julietrask7497
@julietrask7497 2 года назад
@@memoryfield makes sense
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
BTW, that's actually a squirrel running across the power lines. Take another look!
@julietrask7497
@julietrask7497 2 года назад
@@memoryfield I will, thanks optical illusion on my part!
@joemasse4568
@joemasse4568 2 года назад
I think there might be a connection with military? But you have to realize in the 60s, every ones father had been in either WW2 or Korea like my dad was? It was very common to have a Veteran as a parent in those days.
@Czechbound
@Czechbound Год назад
I wish that someday I have so much money that I can have a big house in a good address that I rent out and then forget about for 10 years.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Yeah, me too. LOL. Which house was it you are referring to? The Zappa's old place/Tom Mix Cabin?
@RegnaSaturna
@RegnaSaturna 2 года назад
This may be far fetched but the real estate tycoon who basically build Laurel Canyon was as said in the video Charles Spencer Man. And 50 some years later there's that other guy named Charles Manson´ Man's son?
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Hmmm.... Very interesting. :)
@left0verture
@left0verture 2 года назад
Fascinating stuff. I’m surprised your channel doesn’t have more subs. Just added myself to the list. 👍
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Much appreciated!
@Fisch269
@Fisch269 Год назад
Small correction about 2451 Laurel Canyon Blvrd., it‘s not owned by Rick Rubin anymore and it‘s not a recording studio anymore. It is owned by Mark Romanek and turned into a beautiful family home. Thanks for the videos, I enjoyed them very much :-) Best regards, Christoph
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Cool. Great to know that. Isn't he the one who worked with Johnny Cash on the Hurt music video?
@Fisch269
@Fisch269 Год назад
@@memoryfield yes exactly, he was the video director for Hurt, which Rick Rubin produced :-)
@stevenbeasley1189
@stevenbeasley1189 2 года назад
A friend and I are going over to the Houdini guest house/ Mix property tomorrow and do some metal detecting. My plan is to try and think outside the box. If I find something cool I'll let you know..and I definitely wanna pic of the Mick Jagger wall !
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
For sure. Let me know what happens!
@stanleymilgram4788
@stanleymilgram4788 5 месяцев назад
Amazing you managed to get all that Zappa info into only a half hour.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 5 месяцев назад
So much more to go into with him, but yeah, could have done an entire series on just his life alone. Thanks for watching!
@wilmerphilrivera-mercado1241
Dude love your job iam from Puerto Rico and hippie this make me feel young again from my youth I listen all the 60s music great nostalgia great dude great ☮️✌️
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Thanks for listening and watching and we're so glad you enjoyed it. We appreciate it!
@xqqqme
@xqqqme 2 года назад
Just to clarify, Bess Houdini didn't just out of the blue become driven to reach her departed husband's spirit in the afterlife. Harry spent many years campaigning against spiritualists who conned grieving customers out of their money. Before he passed, Harry told Bess that after he died he would try to reach her with a coded message: "Rosabelle, believe!" (with the second word spelled through an alphabetic code the two had used in a mind reading act). As you note, over a span of 10 years she waited to see if Houdini would come through to her through a spirit medium. When he did not, she ended the effort.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
I guess she just got tired of waiting and called it a day. Or a decade.
@levistubbs8949
@levistubbs8949 2 года назад
They certainly had a lot of fire's in those days !
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Yes, it seems like fire was an ever-present danger in that canyon since way back in the early 1900's. There was even a really bad one in the late 70's that took out almost an entire street and about 20 houses in just a few hours! The streets are narrow and winding and it looks like it would be very difficult for any fire trucks to get back up in there quickly.
@larrymysliwiec6301
@larrymysliwiec6301 2 года назад
I was going to say that too. Seemed like a slew of these houses went up in smoke. I can only think that's because of the hot dry weather, coupled by many being made of wood.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
@@larrymysliwiec6301 And everybody smoking weed. LOL.
@rockerchick4368
@rockerchick4368 2 года назад
I had my Birthday Party, At The Magic Castle. In The Special, Secret Room.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Sounds very ominous. Do tell, though!
@augustusbetucius2931
@augustusbetucius2931 Месяц назад
For the serious Zappa fans - Anyone else notice art from the Zappa album cover "Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch"? It's underneath the upper story over hang, just above the tree on the far left, in the image showing the front of the house. It's right above the window of the upper story, which can only just barely seen above that same tree. Is this just coincidence, just how the facade was designed, without any way of knowing that Zappa would release an album with art that looks identical?
@rclamb04
@rclamb04 2 года назад
This is an excellent series dude!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thanks so much for saying so!
@acatinthecradle
@acatinthecradle 2 года назад
Awesome video! I was waiting for this! Thank you!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
No problem! Glad you found it so quickly. :)
@theaccidentalsenior
@theaccidentalsenior 2 года назад
Every time I see a video or photo of Laurel Canyon I constantly see garbage bins. They litter the roads and sidewalks everywhere.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Haha. North Hollywood is even worse!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
I found Laurel Canyon to be an odd mixture of some really crazy big and wealthy houses/property and just a few very run down and older homes that looked either abandoned and trashed out or in the process of being sold so they could be torn down.
@azazazazaz2642
@azazazazaz2642 2 года назад
Un très beau travail!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Merci beaucoup pour vos bons commentaires et merci d’avoir regardé!
@JIMLAS65
@JIMLAS65 11 месяцев назад
For more in-depth information about Zappa and other artists in Laurel Canyon please read Dave McGowan’s book “WEIRD SCENES IN LAUREL CANYON.” The “coincidences” are mind boggling. Must read book
@lauriekase8745
@lauriekase8745 8 месяцев назад
It’s a great book I bought it from Amazon last year.
@FaqueGoogle-wo6ip
@FaqueGoogle-wo6ip 7 месяцев назад
Lots of evil shit happened/s there
@wwiidobe
@wwiidobe Год назад
I say this with love, when i first learned that Frank Zappa died of cancer i was like "makes sense"
@gregsvlogshow
@gregsvlogshow 7 месяцев назад
the dude nonstop smoked cigarettes. It totally makes sense,
@drratran
@drratran Год назад
Wow You even managed to pay homage to Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart). Also, the title Trout Mask Replica was by design as a satirical "Replica" of a trout.
@jebroe860
@jebroe860 Год назад
it was a real trout
@typhoon2970
@typhoon2970 2 года назад
I saw a cup, license plate and broken tile in the fire place...
@kerrymaddenstories
@kerrymaddenstories Год назад
Thank you! This was great!
@memoryfield
@memoryfield Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 2 года назад
nice work, thanks.😜
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Thank you too!
@johnnytoobad7785
@johnnytoobad7785 2 года назад
I was a big Zappa fan in high school. (The Door's were still my favorite "Rock" band though ). I've watched the u-tube series with Jimmy Carl Black (RIP) and other living members of MOI. Love that guy ! Most Laurel Canyon vids just mention Zappa as an afterthought. Other Zappa vids just mention "the log cabin parties". You seem to be the only person who tells the whole story...what is really known and not "rumored".
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
I think there are at least two books out there that delve into his story very thoroughly. Much more than I ever could or would have time for. He was a complicated and unique individual and so much can be said about him and all of his many talents in both music and business.
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 2 года назад
What happened to Houdini is that the punk sucker punched him before he was able to brace himself for the blow. And frank zappa went to his doctors complaining of prostate problems years before they caught his cancer by which time it was to late. I'm sure his family was able to sue for malpractice. He even addresses this in an interview. Yes he was anti drug but he was intelligent enough to know that way less people would die from overdoses if it were legal and people knew exactly what they were putting in their bodies. I remember very well his spots on FM radio in the early 70s pointing out the dangers of speed. Sorry Billie I thought I was commenting on a new video. That's why I'm here twice. Zappa's take on drug users. Assholes in action. That's a direct quote.
@memoryfield
@memoryfield 2 года назад
Zappa's worldview was quite complicated yet probably very simple in his own mind. And he was brilliant. Thank you so much for your comments, John!
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 2 года назад
@@memoryfield your welcome. I didn't know about the motorcycle gift to Manson from Neil Young but I heard that he was quite impressed with his musical chops. I wasn't much impressed my self. With Mansons music that is.
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