The only thing that God has to fix here is the ignorance going around against Laverne. She's a wonderful, intellectual person, and there's absolutely nothing wrong.
Jocelyne Starr as someone else said to another person in the comment section, "You are the reflection of how ignorant our society can be". who are you to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't accept about THEIR body? I'm sure you don't have a problem when other women enhance their breast or other body parts. smh!
Jocelyne Starr So why do you dye your hair if you don't accept the body you were born with? Why pierce the ears, get tattoos? Aren't you happy with the pretty skin God gave you? _Jeee_zus _Christ_. Fucking hypocrites everywhere makin' my skin crawl.
Well, if you went on a date with Laverne and things heated up and reached the point of intimacy and you found a surprise, you might feel differently about men who impersonate being women.
Oh, ok. So you're one of those people who only care about genitals. Genitals make the woman! Of course they do! Gosh, I've been so fucking stupid! Gender couldn't possibly be about your psyche and your neurology! *_Fuck_* you and your cis-exclusive feminism. I'm not displaying misogyny. Telling you to jump off a cliff because you're being transphobic and counter-effective to everything feminism actually IS, is not misogyny. It's me being fucking pissed at how fucking terrible of a person you are. Now for christsakes go read something that isn't trans-exclusionary radfem propaganda.
Ps. you didn't make an argument. You went off on a tangent that did not address what I was actually trying to say to her. So no, I don't have to deconstruct it. I ain't gotta do *shit*. I grew up being labelled a girl/woman because of my genitalia. Just because I don't identify as female doesn't make me "less of a woman". Just because Laverne Cox USED to have a penis does not make her "less of a woman". What Jocelyne was trying to say is that apparently we have to keep the bodies we're born with. Which is bullshit. What about kids with cleft palates? Tumors? I mean, if God put the tumors there we should all just die of cancer because that's obviously what god wants. And if you're not differently abled or have a functional body with the generally accepted "proper" number of limbs, extremeties, etc, you can still pierce your ears, cut your hair, put ink under your skin, scarify, etc. And I found it hypocritical of her to spew that bullshit when her fucking icon is a person who has dyed hair, obviously has a lot of tattoos, piercings, and other body modifications. TL;DR my beef with Jocelyne is that she seems to idolize someone (or is someone) who has radically modified their own body, VISIBLY, might I add, and then has the fucking *_gall_* to say that Laverne is in the wrong for changing _her_ body so that she can feel comfortable in her own skin. That's fucking bullshit, and Jocelyne, and you, Queenie, need to take a good fucking hard look at yourselves in the mirror and reflect on how the shit you say affects people who are already beaten so far into the dirt to get anywhere they have to find a shovel first. *_FUCK_* your gender binary. *_FUCK_* your body essentialism, and *_FUCK_* your self-righteous pseudo-feminism. I'm done.
I have a friend who is trans IRL. I've never asked her anything about her transition, and I've always treated and referred to her as a girl. I've never seen the need to ask anything about her, because she is who she is, and I don't see a reason to question it. If she's happy that way, then I'm happy for her :)
Being transgender is not a choice, any more than a straight person wakes up one day and makes a conscious decision to be straight. It's a given; an a priori that exists within our being.,.,.
Having watched interview after interview recently of Laverne Cox, it's clear she's come to PLAY. She's not one of these "media hyped" icons that have been thrust into the spotlight yet have nothing of merit to say (plenty of Pop Icons shall remain nameless). She came into this knowing that it's her time to educate on this issue. If you agree with her, great. If you disagree with her, great. This isn't for everyone. However, I respect the fact that she offers such an eloquent and conversational style to her interviews. She listens to the question that's being asked and then addresses it. Such as her telling Katie that there isn't one, universal Trans experience and then proceeded to give insight. As confident and secure as she is, this still is a truly difficult road she's traveling and she's doing it with grace. As a Trans-Ally I am quite impressed. =)
it took years of therapy to discover i'm transgender. so for some we just didn't know, we only know that something is wrong. I didn't know why i couldn't go to public swimming pools and public washrooms, I didn't know why this made me so uncomfortable. Some transgender people know exactly whats wrong.
+Crissy Red I can so relate as a transsexual woman myself. I remember moving to Florida with my family when I was younger(around 8) and we went to the beach for the first time and everyone was playing in the sand and all the boys had their shirts off and the girls in bikinis and such. My mother and people around me were trying to get me to take my shirt off and I felt sooooo uncomfortable "exposing" my chest to everyone and I never understood why till I grew up. I ran away and was disgusted by trans women and now, I am one. Sometimes we run away from the truth, but the moment we accept ourselves we truly can blossom into wonderful,respected people and that is what I am doing now. My name is Kamilla, I am 22 yrs young, an aspiring actress and singer and most off I am a transsexual woman. #LivingOutLOUD
You can compliment trans people bc they are beautiful, yes. But don't use "Wow they are more attractive than cis people" as if cis people are automatically supposed to be more beautiful for identifying with the gender they were assigned with at birth. And yes, she is beautiful WOMAN. She has always been a WOMAN.
i feel like her being transgender is being focused on as her most defining feature. she must really get sick of it! although i understand that talking about it is important for widespread understanding and acceptance of being trans.
I hope Laverne realizes how important and influential she is. I thought I was educated about trans issues before, but she's also helped me understand the important intersections of class and race that define a lot of the discrimination trans people face today. She's such an important spokeswoman and advocate for the trans community, and she really has helped to illuminate the hard truth of the reality for so many trans people, especially in the United States. Not to mention she's a hugely talented actress.
Reminder: All hateful negative comments are only posted by those who get a kick out of creating agitation in others, that's all, nothing else. So simply ignore these people, trying to explain things or get mad at them only fuels their fire. No matter the topic these people only have one agenda, and that's to piss off strangers... Have a wonderful day!
+Seth Munich we need more people like Katie in the world, in and out of media. I saw her earlier interview with Carmen and Laverne when she asked about their transitions, and loved how she set a good example for others to learn from correction. Far too often, people get defensive and go on the offense when they are corrected, but Katie showed the proper response when Laverne told her why her earlier questions were problematic, and I loved how she brought this up in the followup interview here. Also, Laverne is pretty f'ing awesome. She is so articulate, and has a great balance of patience and assertiveness.
What a great role model for the trans community. Beautiful inside and out and able to articulate her story to the world with grace and charisma. Power to you Laverne!
I love this interviewer so much, she's so polite and respectful. Furthermore, she asks questions that no one else asks! At least in the interviews I've been watching. It's like the same question over, and over, and over again. Poor girl has to be exhausted from it!
I love the people that have the confidence and aura that she has. There is so much love there and you know she loves harder since she has been subjected to so much hate. She really has grown from her past and inspires me to continue to move forward from my heartaches instead of trying to avoid them. I respect her so much and wish there were more people like her. Sending love and good vibes your way, Laverne
Wow such an amazing person you are Laverne Cox. I really admire your advocacy. You do say it so well when you say we are all different. No two trans people have the same experience. People need to really know this. And well yeah that sums it up so well. I am also trans I still haven't transitioned yet. I am obviously still struggling. And oh I know the terrible struggle you faced growing up. I could so identify with that shame and suicidal attempt. I am just so grateful to you! You already gave me so much courage to move forward and transition! You are putting our issues out there like no one before. Thank you.
@Jessica Maden, your comment was 6 years ago. I'm cis, but want you to know that someone cares, and hope things are better for you now than they were 6 years ago.
So eloquent and professional. So proud to have her be a part of the LGBT community telling out story. Her and Carmen Carrera are changing the world little by little.
oh my gosh. they both have so much poise and are both smart. thank you Katie for being able to have this conversation. I wish others were just as open minded and willing to help others learn from Laverne and yourself
People labelling her as him are rude. If you are being called out on it, quit whining about it and don't expect any sympathy for being a waste of our time. Trans people go out of their way every day to make people not offend and hurt them, when it isn't even really their job. You people need to constantly spew comments about other people, yet don't have the time to think two seconds about what you're saying.
Wow! I've only just discovered Laverne, via my speech therapist, for me she is already so, so inspirational and beautiful with it. As for the negative comments, I’m just going to take a deep breath think about just how happy I am now being myself, and let all of those negative comments flow over my head, and just hope that perhaps one day these ignorant people can find time to get on the Ask Teal channel and see what she has to say, when she sums up at the end on her Transgender episode. We all have the right and need to be our true self’s.
she's so fabulous in the show and in real life. like, she's quality. beautiful, intelligent, graceful, and everything. they did a really good job casting this actor in the show.
Tolerance and acceptance are two different things... I have heard a lot about this show, I am of the belief that people can disagree and be friends. If they disagree, it does not make them haters, bigots, or mean, they just simply disagree. I am of the belief that tolerance can be forced.. Acceptance cannot. I had not seen much of Ms. Cox before this video. Ms. Cox has a RIGHT to be referred to in whatever pronoun she would like. Ms. Cox has the RIGHT to 'transition' and undergo any surgery that she would need to make her features appear more feminine. Ms. Cox has the RIGHT to pursue success and an acting career. She has the RIGHT to a fan base and spokesperson opportunities.... In a respectful manor I would say that she has the RIGHT to live her life like she wants. ... Just like I have the RIGHT to say that in this video, my eyes and ears tell me that that is a male with weave, implants, an inflection in her voice and a feminine spirit who prefers to be referred to a a woman. Nothing will change that. If I ever run into her...I would be kind, say hello, congratulations, etc all the while.. Knowing like everyone else does... That that is a Man! I do not think that being transgender or gay is a choice (who would choose that?)However, you can't paint the stripe on a skunk, put it in front of me and tell me its a cat. Live and let live 'She' has her rights and I have mine.
That's what a transgender woman is: a woman, with a woman's brain, and a woman's gender expression, and a man's body. Interestingly, many trans women take hormones and hormones have a profound effect. Many trans women's bodies no longer look male at all.
I have respect for you ezridax. I can see that your opinion is coming from someone trying to be respectful as possible. We won't be able to change others. Just gotta accept it. And I'm glad your words were done as best as it could be.
Yeah, that's exactly what she is. She is a biological male who has physically changed to match her gender identity. You have the RIGHT to accept nothing because nothing requires your acceptance, it is not anyone's problem what she or any other transgendered person does with their body. You can try to make a distinction between tolerance and acceptance but you are entitling yourself with a right you do not possess or deserve.
Mind your business and let people live and be who and what they want. Rather than ask why a person would want to live as a woman, turn that prying eye to yourself and ask, "Why in the hell does it bother me so so so much that this person is transgender." I don't think we are 'born' this way necessarily. I think we discover ourselves as trasngender, fight against it for a long, long, long time, then transition out of desperation and desire to just express. Why does that offend you all so much? Why does that scare you? Is it your pride in your own masculinity/femininity that anyone would DARE have the gall to stop being a 'man' and choose the weaker 'feminine' (not my logic, I'm talking about you). Or that a gross, strong 'man' would have the NERVE to enter a 'womyn's' space! Seriously, mind your own business and let transgender people exist. We have existed for a long, long, long, long, long time in some form or another. In many countries we are celebrated as an expression of human diversity. Ignorance doesn't begin to touch on half of these comments I see. You all are just plain hateful, people filled with hate and disgust at everything that's different, you're bullies, and generally mean people. YOU all have the problem. Not her.
beautiful, intelligent, empathetic, articulate, a wonderful celebrity and a great role model for our generation. God bless Laverne Cox. i'm so glad she's with us!!
I love you Laverne. I'm not trans, but I know what its like to hate yourself and to be who everyone else THINKS you should be. Not who you are. You are an inspiration xxx
Basically, if you don't ask strangers about their genitals, don't ask a trans person about theirs either. They've decided to act the way that they feel, which is what everyone on this earth should do.
I think she is a fabulous woman so well spoken and she is beautiful and wonderful so talented. Keep it up Laverne. Coming out of darkness into light and helping other fight their light.
what a beautiful woman, inside and out. I have honestly become more educated with the transgender community since watching this show and I am so glad I did... There was a lot I did not understand and a lot of previous conceptions I'd had that have completely changed. I salute her bravery to embrace who she really was and to be a spokesperson for this misunderstood group of people.
I don't care about what she wants to do to her body. This is America. As long as she pays taxes and is a respectable decent citizen she can do whatever she wants. Has no effect on my life. Who cares guys.
Gender is not just a subconcious mind thing. Its the way we were MADE. Man and Woman. SORRY . Changing your genitals from penos to vagina does NOT make you a woman BIOLOGICAL. The hormones and testosterone in a male body are completely different than in a womans body. A man who changes to female is still not a woman because he does not have the ablility to give birth or menstrate or grow breast and feminine features. The only way he can achieve these specifications is through UNNATURAL medicines and hormones as well as vosmetic surgery. How you compare a male born transgender to a biologically born woman? That's bullshit! It doesn't make us IGNORANT, its fact. And for a MAN or WOMAN to grow up and feel like they belong in a different body obviously isn't SUBCONCIOUS, it means something isn't right with their brain and hormones, which can be linked to SoOooooo many different studies regarding birth defects. Don't blame God , blame science.
I'd love to hear from ppl who want to change their gender but actually never go through with the permanent or even temporary transition. It'd be so insightful learning how they feel staying in the 'wrong' gender and how they'd dealt with it and what means of escape or relief they had. Great interview btw 👍
I think many of them dislike themselves, are incredibly self-conscious, are suicidal, or commit suicide. Many people DO only transition to a neutral point in between male and female and they are completely ok with that and identify as and think of themselves as "gender neutral", "genderless" or "agender" and if they flip flop around in gender or switch genders regularly they might identify as "bigender" or "gender fluid" or so on and so forth.
I actually know trans guy that feels that he does not want to transition. Though he sees it as "Just because I was born in a girl body does not mean I can be a man as is."
Monika Marais Yeah, and I think that that's awesome~ Just other people who are trans feel that they have to transition entirely (or at least "pass" as the gender cause most people judge gender by secondary sex characteristics) to be entirely male/female. Ever trans experience is different and every trans person wants to transition differently. From what I've seen, lots of people who aren't able to transition when they want to have lots of problems with it and may self loath and so on and so forth.
Yea pretty much. Most transsexuals want/need to at least do HRT in order to feel self love and to be content. Personally I find that HRT is the best thing that has ever happened to me. For a very long time I was quite literally waiting to die.
Any negativity and hate thrown at ANYONE regardless of personal opinion is unnecessary and wrong. Most of all, it is hurtful. Laverne is a beautiful human being created by God. This fact alone is why people should show respect and love. If anything she needs even more love for all the rejection/hardships she has had to face her whole life. Very classy, well spoken, articulate, and graceful. that is all that matters. It is not other peoples place to judge and condemn others. Absolutely Unacceptable when it is only God who can judge His creation. What is important for us is to focus on the purity of our own hearts and to love one another..something about Laverne I really admire. The quiet, strong spirit within her is inspiring and unique.
I wonder if Laverne is tired of always being asked about being transgender whenever she does interviews. Like does she wish they would ask her normal interview questions as if she was a regular woman
If you're gonna be hateful, either don't watch or get off. People like you are the reason the world is sooooo fucked up. Because of that hateful mindset. I bet God would be disgusted at you for judging other people, because that's his job. So, bye-bye.
She is such an inspiration. She is accepting and understanding, compassionate and caring. Most importantly, she recognizes her own ignorance and make an effort to decrease it
Umm, why is she making it about her?? Katie that is. Just learn from the mistake and now she thinks she's a daytime saint and bragging about every trans thing she ever did! All videos cued up! She has an actress on her show NOT just a trans person. Don't use us trans-actors-aritsts-etc for ratings just cause you're as interesting as bisquick.
People need to understand that what determines your gender is what you have between your legs, please behave accordingly. Just because someone abused you, you don't have to destroy yourself. And just because you believe the gay propaganda now in all comedy shows, you have to accept that as an absolute truth.
