Law/Gospel Distinction Is Life-Changing | Theocast 

Legalism always slides into sinless perfectionism. And "perfection" requires a LOWER BAR for anyone to achieve it.

This is so good.

Great panel discussion. Thank you for sharing it.

Thank you brothers, thou im not a 1689 LBC guy anymore ( but still a confessional christian :) ) i always appreciate your guys hard work and clear explanations on what us confessional christians, regardless of bastismal views, hold to and pointing us to rest in Christ alone :)

"Do vs done" is a very helpful distinction. But INDICATIVE is not just past tense. INDICATIVE can be a present truth. INDICATIVE can also be a future promise. As long as it asserts truth, it's INDICATIVE. PROPOSITIONS are INDICATIVE. Strictly in the DECLARATIVE mood.

Please, please, please talk about IMPERATIVE vs INDICATIVE. THAT is the essential distinction.

So good and such great insight! Thanks for sharing this! Definitely a gift.

Great discussion

I think that there should be some type of healthy balance… by grace through faith should be preached and preached heavy but there also should be CLEAR sermons and talks about repentance, regeneration, the new heart of flesh for the old heart of stone, a walking in the light, holiness, etc… we’re human and we won’t preach it perfectly, but there should be a balance of the clear message and how shall we as believers and someone who claims the be a Christian or as someone on the outside trying to find out what it means and looks like to be saved. You don’t want to make extreme free grace/antinomianism nor do you want to be preaching Faith+works or Faith+obedience, or anything… but we do want to emphasize God working in the believers life, bringing about sanctification, and sensitivity to sin, a hatred and a bothersome when we do commit sin… some people can lean too far in either direction and that’s neither is healthy and can come across as an unclear message at the least and heresy at worst in my opinion

Good discussion. As always.

All of you guys on the panel are freakin awesome. 26:32 Listen to old boy go. Just great! (Not to be knit picky, but "believe it" is an IMPERATIVE command, not an INDICATIVE statement. The command to believe IS an imperative).

Great clear and concise presentation of Law and Gospel. It was great to see Patrick! Haven’t seen him in awhile. Thanks guys.

Jon, can you and Justin do an episode on Quietism vs Pietism and where TC falls? Great job on the panel, everyone.

This thought just came into my mind. Maybe to show the relationship between law and gospel it could be stated in relation to my wife and I . This summer will be 35 years married and if you ask me why this bond we have had for so long is there, it could be answered a couple ways. 1. I don't commit adultery so we are happily married. Oh, and I take out the garbage. or 2. We love each other and we have a covenant that is secured by that love. Both answers are true but the first one is true because the second one is true.

Super thankful for you guys for your ministry!! Might I humbly make a technical suggestion?? The SM7b mics that you are using are powerful in the bass end. Your audio quality would greatly improve by adding a low cut to your mics. ❤

Can you please make a podcast/video on the difference between cessationist and continuationist 🙏

I can’t find where it is defined what is meant by “the law has no place in the Christian’s life”. Why isn’t the distinction between salvation and Christian service not spoken about? I believe we need clarity on this subject.

You make the distinction between law and gospel. OK However Paul appears to make a distinction between prophesy and mystery in which dispensations are rooted. What do you make of that?

It is a mixing of Law and Gospel to claim one must join an institutional church to be saved.

@29:10 it could be narcissistic behavior?

How would _Free Grace Theology_ fall into this discussion? I mean they definitely make a distinction between Law and Gospel, but they end up bifurcating them to an extreme point where the guidance of moral law is purposely, completely, and fundamentally discarded in all aspects of human life.

There are a few good thoughts in here, but the main and huge error I see is reducing Jesus only to what he has DONE and ignoring, even contradicting, everything he SAID. If I believe that Jesus is who he said is is, then it naturally follows that I should learn and respond to what he said. If someone comes and claims to be king and I say I believe him, but I do not submit nor give allegiance to him, I remain a rebel. I either do not understand what "belief" is, I don't understand what it means for someone to be king, or I just don't care, and shun the king in favor of myself. But Jesus says, "why do you call me "Lord" but don't do what I commnad?" The two are incompatible. The church is full of have people who are struggling because the pulpits make them afraid to seek to obey Jesus. We talk much more about rest than Jesus does, accusing people of legalism if they try to obey him, twisting them up in knots. The biggest thing keeping the church from looking like and being the hands and feet of Jesus in the world is the theology that tells us we shouldn't. When Jesus says "strive" pastors say "rest". When Jesus says "obey" pastors say "trust". When Jesus says "follow" pastors say "don't trust in your works". How long can the church continue to tie would-be followers of Christ into knots, keeping them endlessly debating about how little they need to do, as if the purpose of the coming of God's kingdom were to help us just relax? How long can we act as if the purpose of the kingdom come was to make us theologically accurate, rather than joining and advancing the kingdom of Yahweh to overcome evil and redeem the world? It's been too long. Jesus is not a symbol to be used in a systematic equation. We reduce him to a symbol when we only talk about what he did, and ignore what he said. And we do this at great peril.

Question: according to Jesus, what are the weighty matters of the law? MAT23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law: judgment and mercy and faith (πίστις). These ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Question: according to Jesus, what are the weighty matters of the law?

Haven’t watched yet (just released) but you guys seem like you want to be confessional Lutherans. Why aren’t you? What of the Lutheran confessions do you disagree about? If I were to guess: conversation(s) on baptism seem to indicate a tension - but I’m curious to know how you both affirm God’s work as the one who baptizes (and not us), and yet don’t affirm the salvation of every baptized person. You talk at length like Lutherans about remembering our baptism, but unlike the Lutherans, you can’t say with any certainty that we can rest knowing that we know we are saved because we know God baptized us. Baptism is a sign or seal from whom? Is it just us by tradition essentially remembering the signs from God? Is it God in that very moment giving a sign ti the individual? If the latter, then why aren’t you certain the baptism will take? Edit: Guys. Who is the one baptizing? And why does that give us assurance?

I've asked this question before and was ignored so I'll try again. Bryan, how much support do you receive from the catholic church? How much funding do they give you? How many people do they provide as your support staff? Do you have permission from them to have this channel? Do donations made to you go to the catholic church? Just looking for some honest answers. Thanks

3 basic questions that debunk modern Christianity: **Were you ever part of the Old Covenant that Moses mediated? **Were you born subject to and obligated to keep the Mosaic law? **Did Christ redeem you from the curse of the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3? Hint: if the first answer is "no" (and it is) then they are all "no" (and they are).

Legalism is the CATEGORY ERROR of mixing up ETHICS and EPISTEMOLOGY.

Read this out loud: **He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for NO other nation; they DO NOT know his laws. Psalm 147 Does that say all humanity knows gods laws?

A GOSPEL THAT IS ANTILAWI IS OF SERPENT THE TEMPTER AND NOT OF GOD YEHOVAH THE LAWGIVER THE GOSPEL OF GOD YEHOVAH THE LAWGIVER IS A LAWFUL GOSPEL Isaiah 33:22 ASV For Jehovah is our judge, Jehovah is our lawgiver, Jehovah is our king; he will save us. Isaiah 40:8-10 ASV The grass withereth, the flower fadeth; but the word of our God shall stand forever. [9] O thou that tellest good tidings to Zion, get thee up on a high mountain; O thou that tellest good tidings to Jerusalem, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold, your God! [10] Behold, the Lord Jehovah will come as a mighty one, and his arm will rule for him: Behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him. Isaiah 52:7,11-12 ASV How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! [11] Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; cleanse yourselves, ye that bear the vessels of Jehovah. [12] For ye shall not go out in haste, neither shall ye go by flight: for Jehovah will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your rearward. Isaiah 61:1-3,6,8-9 ASV The Spirit of the Lord Jehovah is upon me; because Jehovah hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; [2] to proclaim the year of Jehovah's favor, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; [3] to appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Jehovah, that he may be glorified. [6] But ye shall be named the priests of Jehovah; men shall call you the ministers of our God: ye shall eat the wealth of the nations, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. [8] For I, Jehovah, love justice, I hate robbery with iniquity; and I will give them their recompense in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them. [9] And their seed shall be known among the nations, and their offspring among the peoples; all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which Jehovah hath blessed. Psalm 40:7-10,16 ASV Then said I, Lo, I am come; In the roll of the book it is written of me: [8] I delight to do thy will, O my God; Yea, thy law is within my heart. [9] I have proclaimed glad tidings of righteousness in the great assembly; Lo, I will not refrain my lips, O Jehovah, thou knowest. [10] I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation; I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great assembly. [16] Let all those that seek thee rejoice and be glad in thee: Let such as love thy salvation say continually, Jehovah be magnified.

The problem remains when people quote Calvin so much in relation to the third use of the law. His view was thoroughly unbiblical, as he believed that the law actually helped sanctify a believer. Our focus should be Christ and HIS LAW. THE LAW has no power to drive us to Christ. Only God’s Spirit can do that!

What a crock! “The Gospel contains nothing for us to do” is a dangerous lie. We were created to “do good work.” (Ephesians 2:10) Jesus says that those who love Him must keep His commandments. John 2:3-4 insists that the ONLY EVIDENCE of our saving faith is keeping His commandments. Many attempt to water down His commandments to “have a warm fuzzy feeling for God and others,” but Jesus clarified this one. He says that His Torah and His Prophets will be in undiminished effect as long as heaven and earth remain. I implore you to stop leading people astray. The Covenants are made with Israel. Messiah came to redeem Israel. The Bible never promises salvation for anyone other than Israel. Those who place their faith in Israel’s Messiah are grafted into Israel. The 12 gates of New Jerusalem admit Israelites. It does not have a 13th gate marked Goyim. You folks are so wrapped up in your “man made interpretations” that you have forgotten how to read the Bible and do what it says. Please wake up before Israel’s Messiah returns to judge everyone based on what we have done, not on what we claim to believe.

False: Lets discuss actual facts: The law was ONLY given to old Covenant Israel and has NOT EXISTED for nearly two thousand years. It was never your "schoolmaster". No one alive today was ever under the works of the law or its curse. For that reason, no one alive today is redeemed from the curse of the law. Questions: ***Were you born under the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3? **Did Christ redeem you from the curse of the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3? Hint: if the first answer is "no" (and it is) then the second one is also "no". Youre welcome.