Do members deserve to know where their dollars go? Or do those details deserve to be kept secret?
Mark Pugsley is back in the house with John Dehlin to discuss the recent 60 minutes coverage of the current investigation into the Mormon Church's financial dealings.
00:03:25 Background on David Nielsen
00:08:40 David Nielsen is a sincere guy, he was just trying to do the right thing
00:12:25 Clip 1 - David Nielsen
00:14:20 Law of consecration
00:17:00 The church made 1.8 billion in the first three months of this year.
00:18:20 Clip 2 - SEC summary
00:20:00 I don’t think they followed their lawyers advice
00:21:50 Is signing false statements part of the law of consecration?
00:22:25 Ensign Peak exposed these people to criminal liability for over twenty years.
00:26:30 Utah has the highest rate of ponzi schemes
00:29:20 Clip 3 - Culture of Ensign Peak
00:30:20 Mission One was to hide the money.
00:33:46 Clip 4 - What is the value of Ensign Peak?
00:40:00 He said explicitly this is NOT for the Second Coming.
00:41:20 The church also counts member volunteer hours as “charity”
00:41:45 The amount of money going to charities is ZERO.
00:44:10 The church can ask if a girl touches herself, but members can't ask how much money they have.
00:46:40 Tithing is about control, more than it is about money.
00:48:55 Clip 5 - Not secret, it’s confidential
00:51:30 Ensign Peak should have been as an investment advisor, they manage other money,
00:52:00 Members should say “it’s confidential” rather than answering
00:54:20 The most effective missionary tool would be to send these boys out to build wells, feed people, house people, give clean water, etc.
00:59:00 The Church is using tithing money to settle these sex abuse cases
01:02:00 Once money goes in, it doesn't come out
01:02:25 Clip 6 - Tax Exempt Status
01:03:10 Mark thinks that’s not the concern, the US protects religious entities
01:05:29 Clip 7 - Bishop Waddell on Beneficial Life & City Creek Mall
01:08:48 Why are we using the money for for-profit ventures?
01:09:09 Clip 8 - Phillip Hackney how much charity is enough
01:10:15 There is a moral obligation for the Church to give to charity
01:13:00 Clip 9 - Erosion of Trust
01:14:28 He says “there’s no more discussion” about Ensign Peak
01:16:40 The church assigns financial numbers to ward members volunteer hours
01:21:10 Ensign Peak is the Church’s treasury, it’s the church’s bank.
01:24:00 If what results is shaming the church into doing more, this is all worth it.
01:26:25 Clip 10 - more on the SEC…
01:28:57 Most whistleblowers remain anonymous,
01:30:00 Clip 11 - IRS investigation
01:31:50 Breaking news from a Financial Clerk
01:35:40 The church assigns a dollar amount for people attending church
01:37:16 YM get 20,000 while YW get 2,000 per year
01:39:00 Clip 12 - The money quote
01:40:20 Isn’t it sad that only one of Ensign Peak had integrity to leave and speak out?
01:41:20 Criticisms of 60 Minutes
01:43:10 “A Letter to the IRS Director”
01:46:18 The Church’s response to the 60 Minutes report
01:50:00 Carah’s Tik Tok
01:52:37 Clip 13 - It’s easy to manage if you don’t have to be accountable
01:57:15 Find another organization to give your money to.
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