Thank you for making this video! After my F-150 abruptly downshifted from 6th gear into 1st gear, I took my F-150 to the Ford dealership & after a week they told me I needed a new motor & possibly a new transmission. They had no clue what was wrong with it or were unwilling to fix it even though Ford had issued a nationwide safety recall for this issue. I wish I had a reliable knowledgeable person like yourself nearby. Thanks again!
Man I appreciate you making this video I took my 2011 F150 to a local shop and asked how much to change my leadframe he immediately told me he had to rebuild the transmission and it would run me 1800 to 2500 dollars I told him I had research the problem and everyone who had the same symptoms it was the leadframe. So thanks a lot I’m gonna change my lead frame tomorrow picked on up today
Same here, I paid 2 weeks ago for a rebuild and it never stayed right. They blamed everything but transmission. Long story short its in the shop right now and I found a lead frame local thank god. Crossing fingers 🤞
Does Ford have to reprogram or can the lead frame just be replaced? There was a reprogram done on my truck(13 F150 Limited 3.5l ecoboost 4x4 v6) in 2020... Please advise ! Thanks
I just had the lead frame replaced on my 2016 at the dealership. The service advisor tried to explain what they did but I don't think he even knows what a transmission is as he pronounced it "led" frame lol. So thank you for clearing showing what was actually replaced on my truck. Next time I will do it myself as it is definitely something I can handle with my mechanical abilities.
In his defense, i thought it was lead like led too, just because of lead beind a special metal. This is the first time I've heard it pronounced otherwise
Thank you. I just bought a used 12 for myself, and love the truck, but dont love this problem. Was 30/70 whether I wanted to takle the job myself, but now I'm 100% Thank you again!!!
Great video. My 2013 just started screwing up. I bought it used a year ago it only has 54,000 miles on it but the extended warranty only lasts 10 years so they wont cover it. Im fairly mechanical, but now seeing whats involved with this repair i'll suck it up and pay a pro.
Great vid. Very detailed. I hate fluid and oil dripping on me , know your pain. My 2013 has started the P0720 w/ check engine light and wrench. Not looking forward to the job. Thanks for vid
Mine is toast. Luckily the recall happened at the right time for me. The software download wouldn’t so I’ve got a new lead frame coming for my f150 under the recall.
Working on a 2010 f150 w a floor shifter won’t go all the way into park, when I manually put it in park underneath the shifter is stuck in park my first hunch is the cable, it doesn’t extend all the way down but deep diving I’ve found could be the shift interlock solenoid, brake light solenoid, the shifter itself and now this lol I’ve manually reset it to take a look and took apart the shifter to see what’s going on, I have it responding w the brake for now so maybe I can eliminate the shift lock solenoid but I’m stuck where to continue my diagnoses I put the shifter into D, engine off Manually put the transmission into D The cable and shifter don’t line up Turning back on the vehicle Resetting to Park, they don’t match up again I’m gonna try the fix for a new cable in case it’s stretched I think
Apparently the area we are stuck on is the installation part that made you mad and skipped. That valve we had to figure out and the linkage between the shifter lever and the valve body comes apart when we try and run the truck. Had to pull the pan off again, trying to figure it out for the 2nd time now... we will see.
Hello sir I hope you can answer my questions I took my truck for the recall lead frame speed sensor . in 2019 . now I have the problem you think they will fix it again
I think this may be part of my problem I’m having w my 2012 f150 eco boost 3.5 ( K.R ) it’s not wanting to shift out of low I’ve changed the transfer case motor it is also not showing correct speed says it’s doing 70 at 20 mph ( rough estimate)it feels like it is in a 4x4 with low rpm low gear whine but shows at 2x4 on dash transmission also shifting hard into gear I have been experiencing the notorious down shift issue I’m hoping by replacing this I could solve some of these issues do you think I’m going down the right path my next move would be replacing iwe and tubes? Idk help please
That sounds like something in the transfer case or associated computer…if it’s all something that happened at once for no reason I might look for common grounds but you might have to have that properly diagnosed at a shop.
Replaced this part warmed it up got the fluids right, put it into reverse and all the gears are neutral would it be those 6 solenoids on the valve body?
My 2010 F150 5.4 with a six speed six or 80 has 144,000 miles on it I just bought it last year don’t know if it’s ever been service for the transmission or not before but the fluid was low I put Lucas transmission Conditioner in there which is for also LV fluid. The symptom I’m having is the last two weeks whenever the truck is cold up here in Pennsylvania in the summer it gets down to about 60°F. But whenever the first 10 or 15 minutes I’m driving it whenever I come to a stop sign and pull out after a complete stop it does like a neutral slip and bangs in the first gear. It does it for like two more stop signs and then once it warms up it goes away. This happens every morning I took it to my local Ford dealership they put the scanner on it it came back no electrical problems and I asked them about the lead frame and he said everything came back OK but somebody else is telling me it Hass to actually be doing the symptoms for the scanner to pick it up. I don’t know if that’s true or not any thoughts on what this could be? Somebody else that may be the drive shaft You join or something but then it would do it all the time not just wants cold out I’m imagining… great video thank you for sharing!
Noises are something that have to be diagnosed in person, it can be narrowed down but not pinpointed…I do know they have a lot of timing chain problems that rattled on startup, if that used to be a problem and now it sounds like that all the time then it needs addressed soon.
I just replaced the lead frame and had the recall sw update done by dealer. After doing the lead frame the transmission is slipping bad now. Everything went back together as expected but I didn’t put the transfer tubes in the trans I left it on the valve body. Could that be why? Only drove it a few times before doing this repair and it didn’t happen before. 250k miles on it
Thank you for making it make sense. My 3.5 EcoBoost gave me the "Rench " from hell displayed so I pulled over thinking oh, no problem i'll just turn off then on the truck then it may reset. Nope. the truck won't even crank. I checked for codes and the PO706 & PO707 came up. had to get the trucked towed. I'm assuming the "no crank" is normal and nothing I can do till the Leadframe is replaced. thanks for any comments or suggestions.
Those codes are for the range sensor, check your wiring and connections at the trans but that sensor is part of it and won’t start because it doesn’t know what gear it’s in.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 Great, I'm assuming the connection is the one you show at the "4:23" mark of your video. Is there any other connection other than that one? or just trace that one on both ends. thanks
@@Perry-cl2ne I’m pretty sure that’s the only one, they put everything in that one frame so it all has to go through that connection, fluid leaking through the connector can cause issues as well
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 last question, does the connector wiring get powered by any fuses? i'll be looking at the connector this weekend. thanks again for everything.
@@Perry-cl2ne I would have to look at the wiring diagram but most of those wires will be to the computer, power will likely be relay controlled with switched grounds to the solenoids, sensors will be direct to the computer
I have had an erratic shift for several months 2017 6r80. Everything points to the OSS throwing a fit. Is it wise to replace the leadframe(with new valve body, as the leadframe alone is usually unavailable) altogether, or could the sensor alone be swapped? Having trouble finding a part number for the 6r80 OSS. Rock auto seems to only have 10r80 sensor available.
The transmission in my 2013 Mustang with a V6 Automatic is having that same issues. All I hear about is the F 150. What about the mustangs? They aren’t part of the recall?
Debating weather my valve body or lead frame is bad , will downshift hard from 5th to 4th only but only when it stays in 5th gear for a while I guess when it builds pressure, on 6th gear overdrive it seems like it looses pressure while driving almost feels like it down shifts but it’s not shifting it stays on 6th gear
Do you have the OEM part number for the 3 Stand pipes sometimes 4? Do they reseal okay if you pull them off valve body and place old ones back in transmission?
After you replace either one or both lead frame or valve body, do you need to programming in system? Or just remove and install then drive it like it will be normal again?
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I did have issue with my 2014 F150 4x4, sudden downshift gear from 6 to 1 while driving, scan and found code p1500, and found out that I have recall #24s37 for that issue after have dealer send a mobile technician to update software that was 4 days ago, then just today, it did it again and this time all codes appear all from transmission p0720, and many more... I told dealer it was after they flash it with software and it come worse... They said it wasn't software that they updated that cause it... They will let me know by Monday to see if recall would cover it.... I tried to look for solution because I can't afford replace for $8k... I see you did replace lead frame and drive fine...
So I replaced it on my 2013 F150 a couple days ago. Followed step by step and topped off the fluid, but the transmission no longer allows reverse. Any ideas what may have caused this?
@@swishyboi7444 I would assume something like debris might have gotten in during installation, improperly installed valve body, or something like that.
Just replace my lead frame. Im 99% sure I put everything back right but now the truck isn’t starting. All I get is one click from passenger floorboard area. Battery is good. Any ideas?
Did you have the battery unhooked, this sounds like the starter is engaging but not cranking. That leadframe has the PRNDL in it but I assume it’s good because it’s clicking. Check for power at the main cable at the starter.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I did not unhook the battery. It is not showing what gear it is in. Ill go check power to the starter and get back to you. Thanks
@@garrettgilstrap7509 if it’s not showing what gear it’s in then it won’t start, if I remember right most of those fords have dual solenoids to the starter so it might be engaging one and not the other, try unplugging your trans connector and inspect the pins to make sure one didn’t get folded
Hey man thanks for this awesome video. I’m thinking I need to replace my valve body on my 16 f150 5.0 ;97k miles, 6r80. I’m having intermittent shifting issues particular at faster speeds on highway.sometime when I press on gas to go faster tranny gets stuck in lower gear and the only way to get it back to normal is to let off the gas and cycle back through gears. Anyway was hoping for some insight if you think that could be the problem and also if I change this part will I have to do any programming or reflashing of anytype? Im replacing the entire valve body and lead frame. Thanks!!!!!
I’ve never had to reprogram/reflash the computer but I do usually reset the adaptive learn and shift points. As far as if that’s your problem I’m not sure, if you have access to a scan tool I’d drive it while watching what gears it’s calling for so you know if it’s calling for that gear or if it’s a hydraulic issue.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 thanks for the quick reply man! So if it’s not calling for the gears to change most likely it can be the valve body and or lead frame, correct? If it is calling for the gears to change and it’s not, then it would be something more involved? Thanks so much
Can anyone help me... Just had the lead frame done yesterday.. it's still doing the same shit... Do you have to do the flash update, when it's done? Someone said something about a flash update to me.. thanks
I’ve never had to flash after this repair, if it’s still doing the same thing then I would assume it’s an internal transmission fault, that or a connector issue
I've herd that the Gen 2 they took out the spring for the bypass valve or something to fix an issue or the got rid of it. Could you explain that please
I haven’t been in to one of those yet, I research as needed as we are an independent shop. I have a feeling I’ll be getting into more of them as another shop has been farming work to us for years and told us today they lost their senior tech and would be bringing all higher end diagnostic work to us.
Another video I watched the guy used a little compressed air through the fill hole to release the vacuum before dropping the pan and it drained instantly for him
