Learn From Fred Again & Skrillex and STOP Overproducing

Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy

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Overproducing can lead to many issues, and even the giant producers like Fred Again, Skrillex and Four Tet is really careful about avoiding it. Let's deep dive into the problem a bit.
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@hoyosdelavegacarlos1894 Год назад

This is one of the biggest videos about music production... I´ve been into this for 7 years and beacause of my perfectionism I had only release 5 songs, that really killed my creativity. All this problems that you mention on this video are really importat to put on the table and try to solve it as an individual. During the last year on my private life I started to leave my perfectionism and I started to enjoy family, friends, work and ofcourse myself more and more. CHEERS FOR THIS VIDEO, FR. I love the quality an effort that you put on your videos... this will help a lot future producers :)

@Alice-Efe Год назад

Thank you, really appreciate it! As long as people enjoy the videos and they add value to community; I am more than happy to put all my effort on them 😊

@photicsonar Год назад

Yes, really it is!

@satbirsaini8875 Год назад

What makes a song good is the vibe, and that’s the sound selection and home you create around the initial idea. The rest is a natural consequence.

@19DANCER11 Год назад

100%

@Phillink Год назад

Im in the same spot.... I have like 20 unreleased songs that I edit from time to time but my perfectionism holds me back so hard that I lose the joy of making music ... How did you overcome that perfectionism?? I NEED TO STOP

@igmusicandflying Год назад

I put perfectionism away last year and challenged myself to put out tracks as many weeks as I can on a strict Saturday to Saturday schedule, the goal being 40 tracks (I allowed a week a month because I still have a day job, and family and house obligations). They didn't have to be good, or even finished, but if I start a track that week, it's going up on SoundCloud by 3 PM Saturday regardless. I didn't get the time to get obsessed with a track, and even if I didn't like the end result, it was okay because I can just start something new next week. I made some of the best tracks I've ever made as a result of it. Not all of them, to be sure. But I've got 7 I'm happy enough with to spend doing those final "20%" improvements to make my first album ever this year. I'm 55 and have no illusions about having a paying career in music. It's the first time in my life I didn't just quit in frustration after spending months on tracks before just abandoning them.

@AahSol Год назад

Happy to hear that! When you release your album can you post the link in this comment section so I can check it out?!!

@theisgejlfischer8712 Год назад

thank you for sharing, i'm going to attempt something similar soon

@arnoldho169 Год назад

Props for your discipline with a family and job!!!

@igmusicandflying Год назад

@@AahSol will do! While I despise self-promotion in other people's channels, it's not difficult to get to a preview from my RU-vid profile.

@iWubmusic Год назад

kinda agree to a point. I do like some perfection as well, it seems rough to be that artist that has 74 albums in one year. At that point you are trying to get people to shuffle through your work I feel.

@DodgaOfficial Год назад

I've learned overtime that possibly the most important thing you can do is remove stuff and simplify your track. I regularly remove notes from tracks and let the sounds really shine, sometimes complexity is needed, but most of time, making it simple is the best bet, human beings remember things that are simple yet tickle their fancy, they might be impressed by something super complex but they're not gonna be humming it.

@aikighost Год назад

I used to love IDM & complex breakcore stuff but over time it started to wear on me and I realised minimalism is really where its at for things that become "classic" in any genre not just electronic music.

@jacobjobes4566 Год назад

IDM is often simpler than it seems. E.g. crazy chopped up break on one channel even though it might sound like a hundred things going on at once

@kozihoppy Год назад

So true about the song fatigue, I would even add the fun fact that's when you listen to a track you thought was boring and for whatever reason you stopped producing you find it was actually good and had potential, now I understand (sometimes) it's because of the song fatigue.

@wired-up5677 Год назад

The absolute worst feeling is when you're really feeling a track and grooving to it , stank face n all and then all of a sudden you've fiddles with something not that important or noticeable for too long and start to get tired of the song.

@isakferm7674 Год назад

@@wired-up5677 I feel you on that exactly. You feel like you’re doing some sick ass sh*t, you overproduce and that high dies down. Although for me if I take a week off from that project, I’ll often like I feel better about it

@danylodrachov4500 Год назад

Thank you for this, Alice. I feel like more videos like this would benefit the community. Sound design and mixing tricks are cool and all, but in the end, you got to select only a few options and chill. This video is much appreciated!

@Alice-Efe Год назад

Really happy to help. I will try to make more similar videos like this in the future.

@AriesBeatsTutorials Год назад

This is indeed an incredibly good post, thank you so much. I could write a novel evaluating every single passage, excellent, really! 💜🎶

@sadikcanerylmaz8693 Год назад

This was the video I've been waiting for.... I was keep asking myself to solve this problem. thank you so much alice!!!

@OfoeNelson Год назад

Glad I stumbled across your channel. Life changing. Blowing everyone out of the water with quality straight to the point videos with an expert touch. You really know wtf you're talking about and not many channels balance the music knowledge and research with quality example projects. You're killin it!!❤

@ginzuko2562 Год назад

omg this video helped me so out of my problems. thank you so much and much love. keep going !

@gotickofficial Год назад

This hit right in the feels... In a good way! I was really needing this video, thank you ever so much for your work!!! ❤

@gkunz3 Год назад

Yet another fantastic tutorial. The depth of your knowledge is only exceeded by the clarity of the presentation. Thanks!

@luisdottor2427 Год назад

Thanks a lot Alice!! You are the best teacher and the best mentor! Keep going making incredible music and inspiring videos!

@pabololo Год назад

thank you so much Alice! following your journey here since years and this video was so inspiring and helpful again💐

@Poetic-ally Год назад

Thank you so much for giving an explanation to this! I have 1 song on Spotify with 1,5 million plays, it is fairly simple, and ever since I've struggled to put out a song as accessible! I later realized that I started adding too many complex elements to my songs, I have songs now that has gone through 17 different versions and has taken half a year to finish (to my liking) I've first learned recently to (Somewhat) know what makes a listenable dance track, that is to make an element in a song breath a bit more, and interrupt that by a new element (for instance a new chord progression) This is a symptom I have because I don't trust that I can keep a listeners attention for that long (which has something to do with low self-esteem as well) which is a problem that is briefly glossed over beautifully in this video! You've earned a new sub!

@AlexJBethell Год назад

This video is absolutely golden. I found your channel early on in to my production journey and I am so happy that I did. You are inspirational. Thank you so much

@bretocameron 2 месяца назад

I have been a hobbyist producer for years and this channel is one of the best I've ever discovered. You've got the rare mix of great educational content but also great tracks! Thank you!

@EliasJamousCK Год назад

Cool video! This such an important thing to stress and be aware of not doing. I think the main problem for new producers that causes them to OVERPRODUCE is they're new to sound selection their ears aren't tuned enough just yet to pick out the good sounds from the bad sounds, so what ends up happening they start layering many different sounds to achieve what they think they want to achieve! Instead of being able to pin point what sound or what they need to take out to make their track more polished. There for causing them to start to overproduce and spend more time on a track than they should. Really nice video Alice!!

@Alice-Efe Год назад

Thank you and definitely what I see with new producers as well. Cheers!

@Yum_Yum_Delicious_Cum Год назад

Yup thats me

@meusince199 Год назад

This is me.

@reggiedavis4961 Год назад

You’re amazing!! Keep posting such helpful content ❤️❤️

@carlojulianmusic Год назад

I really needed this. Thank you so much for this video.

@galvadorsd Год назад

great video alice. not only did you give us great music production tips but you also passed an awesome message!

@anniewaldemarson7869 Год назад

Love your videos, feel lucky to have come across your channel!

@itsrnav Год назад

Absolutely great video, I struggle with hating my songs, and completely deviating from what I started with that made me excited in the first place, I don't have to make it any more difficult than it has to be in the first place! Thanks for the video, there is actually a method to this creative madness :D

@Chris-iu3vl Год назад

Thank you for your time and effort with this video! Superb content. Bless

@aerialgrey2566 Год назад

Your vids are so good! Been producing for 11 years still learning a ton of stuff from you. Thank you!

@benjaminbolton7821 Год назад

Splendid video Alice! The Pokémon analogy was perfect!

@L0rdr3tr0 Год назад

This is a great video about it all how have I been missing this all my life! I love this!

@RaggaPuddin Год назад

Legend... this is so on point all the best!!x bless up, you make a great teacher!!x I wish you success in all you do.

@19DANCER11 Год назад

Awesome video Alice! This is just what I needed to hear

@amilcarjoel Год назад

Aprecio mucho tu contenido, todo ha cambiado mucho y se siente muy orgánico. Tu nuevo aspecto, las explicaciones y el formato :)))

@dikkeoliebol Год назад

Just found your channel and watched 3 videos, I've been producing and watching videos for 6 months and I genuinely think this is the best content i've found :)

@MidnightUnity Год назад

Another great video Alice! A lot of great insights on "being a producer" and not only what to "do" as a producer! Thanks a lot for your amazing work!

@Alice-Efe Год назад

Thank you! Definitely! I think being a producer is closer to being a composer than being an engineer. 😊

@Nova_Afterglow Год назад

this is a great video Alice. i was actually thinking about over producing very recently. I feel like if my song sounds like two songs are playing at once, then i over produced and i need to make the main idea more clear. that last example really shows that. before you muted a lot of tracks, it sounded like almost 3 different songs where playing at once.

@eliezerbrandao Год назад

Awesome! Thanks for sharing

@michaelphase Год назад

I love this video! I feel like I've been overproducing in search of making something unique, if that makes sense. This really helped! Thank you!!

@RestorationsFOD Год назад

Every analogy made complete sense to me! Thanks for this👍

@OmarP8 Год назад

Very clever content!! 👌👌Greetings from Spain!🎉

@nikezooms Год назад

Hey your a brilliant teacher - i constantly need these reminders to stay fresh and sharp. thanks a mill

@MrChamesy Год назад

When you wrote that stuff down it really put things into perspective, thank you!

@JamminBoy90 Год назад

This has really helped me, thank you Alice!

@hadihrekespercussions5512 Год назад

Thanks for the help we need more of this topics , That was a really good video .

@HeyItsMattSmith Год назад

Amazing video! Great premises and great examples. Nice editing too! I'm sure I'll be coming back to this one :)

@Marv Год назад

Love your videos 🙏 There's just so much value in every one of them.

@putte_stuttgart Год назад

Wonderful ... just wonderful. Thanks a lot for all your work and the person you just are.

@Drasen Год назад

These are things I’ve realized after almost 12 years of doing music, powerful advice!! Everyone who is up & coming, apply this!!

@redshiftcomplx2652 Год назад

Thank you!! Great video

@kodiwalks Год назад

this is the channel ive been looking for! Thank you!!!!

@Usageee Год назад

Once again gaining a new perspective! Love the pareto principle and pokemon analogy! This is such a great video! Thank you so much! Sometimes I tend to stop and discard a song after I am 60% - 70% into it and i start to feel that the song sounds bad when initially I was grooving to it when I was working on it. Definitely something to do with song fatigue >< I should go back to those songs.

@zachyula4084 Год назад

this was super informative and exactly what I needed! thank you 🙌

@tarantula762 Год назад

2k takipçiden beri buradayım, 2.5 yıldır ara verdim ama aradaki videoları izleyerek günümüze geleceğim, senin motivasyonun beni inspire lıyor, teşekkürler Alice.

@MrDisrupta Год назад

Very good video mate thanks. Nice extra effort in the editing, classy products.

@talhawynne Год назад

This is such a great video, in a sea of just straight up tutorials your video stands out as a beacon. And that parting note by Anne Wilson Schaef, that will stay with me for a while.

@justinking5245 Год назад

That was amazing - thank you ❤️

@GoneComposer Год назад

At first, I thought I was about to watch another standard 'producer pro tips' video with interesting points but nothing which stands out. In the end, it's a very passionating video with very interesting angles and perfect examples! Thank you very much, I'm very glad to subscribe to your channel and make Sonic happy :)

@ilaydamutlu4701 9 месяцев назад

I absolutely loved this video thanks a lot Alice

@andrewmontijo9379 Год назад

Great video!! Thank you!!

@Forwardslashhug Год назад

You are doing amazing work. Thank you so much for your tutorials.

@allyouracid Год назад

Yet another amazing video. Thanks, your videos are the ones where you grab a pen (or open notepad hehe) and take notes! What I really took away from it is the overcrowding part. Next project I'm working on, I'm planning ahead on what synthesizers to use, and I physically remove everything else from the setup, so I won't even get the idea to use all those "great ideas" together in one piece.

@Jobobaboss Год назад

You’re a goddess! This is very helpful to me. I wrote down most things that you’ve said so I won’t forget them! Thank you lady! I’ll definitely hang around on your channel! Btw, all though from deep down I already knew, but you reminded me that making music is a mostly psychological journey. So that means that your tips will not only help the creative process, but also lots of other aspects in life. 😊👍

@Chamber_xo Год назад

I wasn’t expecting this, it was something I needed to hear m, thanks. tThis insight into the deep state of mind, perfection has been a damper on my progress in a way, but learning new techniques and practicing naturally creates a quicker workflow.

@purplepeople950 Год назад

This was lovely video, completely agree and keep a reminder that less is more in the front of the mind! Thanks for sharing your personal experience and thanks for the effort you put into making the video, this one struck a chord, pun obviously intended 🚀💜

@MegaMen767 Год назад

Awesome Video! Thank you❤

@Flashraize Год назад

Super-inspirational, thank you so much for this! ❤

@jaytuc3009 Год назад

Super educational video 🙌🏽

@KabMulti Год назад

Love your content!

@podespault Год назад

Excellent video!

@RecklessKmikaze Год назад

I needed this, thank you.

@richtrelo Год назад

Great video! I've definitely been guilty of adding more to my tracks and making it less clear. More is less.

@IncisionSheffield Год назад

This is an excellent video and just what I needed to hear. This will change my music for sure !

@kahyui2486 Год назад

I would appreciate more videos like this, recently I stopped watching tutorials so more videos like this would be good. I like hearing about peoples approach to music

@Lesserhuman Год назад

Brilliant Video, I've sat working on a track for a few hours and honestly i hear you on song fatigue! Ive gone to the point where its actually ear fatigue too. My kick was so punchy and nice at that start and then by the end it began to sound really tinny but I couldn't understand why. I saved a new version and tried to fix the issue but I just couldn't make the kick knock again so I called it a day really deflated and hating my track i'd worked so hard on. Low and behold, the next day I came in with fresh ears and opened the original track up and the kick was absolutely fine!!

@yeelawnmask6771 4 месяца назад

I am simply in love with you and the knowledge and the insights you share with us. Thank you. I am gratefull.

@obyybo Год назад

Great great share of insights. Thank you

@SamJ753 4 месяца назад

One of the best videos ive seen, super relatable!

@khamborkharjana1865 Год назад

This is very very helpful, thank you

@RagnarRael Год назад

I’m learning so much, thank you 🙏

@darrenphillips2542 Год назад

I find myself working on a track and being really happy with the progress. I then get excited to play it back the next day and continue working, only to hate it!!! This has happened so many times, but the funny thing is if I continue to listen a bit more then I get into the moment, and get over the perfectionist side of things and start enjoying it again. I have produced about 7 tracks in 3 years but I still haven't uploaded anything to Spotify yet, only Soundcloud due to feeling my music is not ready yet. Thanks for the video it helped clear up issues for me!

@chejoseofficialTV Год назад

Great video Alice, this will be great for some of the young producers just starting out!

@jjmathewson2160 Год назад

Killer video as always Alice! Much needed

@LeonardWild Год назад

Great Video! Thanks

@freke80 Год назад

Very well explained and demonstrated. This video is really next level, diving deeper down into the psychology of making music which might also be a 20/80, but I need to philosophize some more before I can say for certain. Thanks!

@LillianFrances Год назад

so good Alice!!! thank u!

@Lu-ly4nk Год назад

pt-br: depois de um certo tempo estudando música principalmente se vc não é apaixonado por teoria musical, vc começa a querer entender mais a fundo pequenos detalhes que existem na produção, esse video me trouxe a sensação maravilhosa de aprender

@screendrem Год назад

One of the best videos on mindset and production I've seen. Got em with the perfectionist call out too! 😂

@diatom548 Год назад

İçinde bulunduğum çıkmaz döngüyü çok güzel ifade etmişsin. Önerilerin için teşekkürler video ilaç gibi geldi : ) "Mükemmelliyetçilik en yüksek düzeyde kendi potansiyelini kötüye kullanmaktır"

@luisr1421 Год назад

This is such an amazing video! No one ever addresses this, amazing.

@ABoyCalledRic Год назад

Great reminder, thank you!

@itsdropshop7748 Год назад

This video is incredible, what a wonderful topic and perspective.❤

@siwaxa Год назад

Thank you so much for this video. ❤️

@Smartstartup1 Год назад

Great video! Thank you very much🙌

@PhillTHEMusic84 Год назад

Nice video, and very interesting point of view. I agreed with you.

@noisyshaun Год назад

So much of this even applies to work and every day life, perfectionism is the thief of creativity and spontaneity. Great advice here Alice👌

@alinenunez4270 Год назад

Wow this is one of your bests videos ever. Thank you

@skattyopt Год назад

It's funny that I was thinking about a lot of the points you made in this video and it was inspired by rumble and its simplicity. Thanks for putting into words for me what I was trying to understand.

@arturpompeu Год назад

your channel is gold!

@lodh1797 Год назад

What a great content ...the more I see ur videos, the more I love producing 😌😌🎶

@metaphoricalsoundeffects1400 Год назад

This video have really good advices. The one on perfectionism couldn't more true, and i think that will help me a lot cause i can tell to myself now that there is not a perfect song or art, just one that only you can create. Thanks =)

@maxjansen8591 Год назад

great video!

@arcticsound7341 Год назад

Your second point is like a light switch. I tend to listen to the same loop over and over and probably make detrimental tweaks just so I hear something different. Great tip.

@limbee Год назад

Really helpful video. ty

@sevenfifteen Год назад

It is so important! My fear of failure made me a guy rarely releasing anything. It's not unusual to have years between releases. Exactly for what you described. It's starts with me enjoying my track, but then finding things that I thought problematic. Until I ended up thinking "no, it's trash". One day, I shared a few of these unreleased tracks with another guy, that I only know via social media. He didn't know what I thought of them, and I expected a confirmation of their "badness". Instead he answered enthusiastically "o my god, how do you manage to make such clean mixes". And I still couldn't hear what he heard. Under this name, sevenfifteen, I only posted a few Minecraft creator remixes. No longer than a day for each one, and in terrible quality (to my ears). Yet, I never heard anyone complain, despite their quality. Sometimes, it's better to just make it public, no matter what you think.