Learn How To Rebuild a Ford Toploader 4 Speed - Part 1

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How to rebuild a Ford Toploader 4 speed part 1 shows basic disassembly of this transmission. The Toploader was mainly used in Ford and Mercury models such as Mustang, Falcon, Fairlane, Torino, Cougar, Comet, Cyclone, Galaxy, and Ranchero. A very strong and well engineered transmission.
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@bengesell 2 месяца назад

One of the only few videos left online that actually is helpful. Thank. You.

@goldysgarage189 Год назад

Paul is the king of manual transmission rebuilds. Thanks Paul, us Ford guys appreciate it.

@ChevelleMike71 4 месяца назад

I was recently thinking to myself that it had been too long since I’d rebuilt a Toploader. The universe must have been listening because one customer brought three of them to be gone through.

@matthewmoilanen787 Месяц назад

I'm a 63 yr old Senior Master ASE and don't think I've rebuilt 10 of them in my life. Even with all my Chev racing buddies using them because they keep blowing up Muncies. This is dirt oval use primarily.

@unclequack5445 Год назад

Hey Paul I really like seeing these old gear boxes Thanks man.

@jesperlowinger Год назад

Thanks for all this knowledge Paul! Im 24yo from sweden and learning alot. Keep it up!

@LetGaiaLive Год назад

Outstanding video! I have your book, but this just makes it so much easier to understand, and familiarise myself with all the parts. Can’t wait to see the rest of the series.

@dewiz9596 Год назад

Glad to see you’re back!

@josephtravers777 Год назад

Thanks, Paul! I've never seen a 5-bolt Toploader case. Very early.

@chito4 Год назад

Thanks for making this! I have a 4 speed toploader sitting on the bench, this is the encouragement I need to start rebuilding it. Look forward to the rest of this series

@canikeiko Год назад

Thanks a lot for sharing all your tech knowledge, your videos are amazing. i can't wait for the assembly. Greetings from Switzerland.

@kevinharms7578 Год назад

Thank you Sir for posting, always good useful info. Looking forward to upcoming Toploader videos.

@taylorsutherland6973 Год назад

I've rebuilt 2 toploaders thanks the Paul's videos on the Jeep T176 version. Now a real toploader video. They seem to one of the strongest early transmissions, but way outdone nowadays. Got Tremec off the ground building toploadres after ford sold them the design.

@SlowInFastOut1776 Год назад

Great stuff Paul! Learned about this video & your book from the Vintage Mustang Forum - appreciate the great instruction & will be buying your book. I've never restored this era vehicle - currently documenting my '66 Fastback build on my channel. Folks with the expertise and experience like yourself are indispensable!

@MrJak427 Год назад

Love to see more top loader stuff and your opinions of it weak points good points etc etc

@rdemelio2 4 месяца назад

I have a RUG D2 that I am going to rebuild because no one in my area does this type of work anymore. Your Vido was great , and I am ordering your book. Thanks

@DougHanchard Год назад

Happy New Year Paul! Looking forward to this series. I haven't overhauled a Ford Toploader since the early 90s. It's sad that parts and cases are becoming scarce. They were really good road course transmissions when I used to run them behind a 500 HP engine. Keep up the great work!

@karimismail1007 Год назад

Thanx sir for giving out wonderful knowledge to mechanics GODbless you.

@DJ-yp4kc Год назад

i remember working on my 4 speed converted it to go into an early Bronco...I made a bunch of tools to disassemble/assemble it.. Dummy Shaft for the Cluster Gear etc.. worked well when back together.

@NH1969GOAT Год назад

Thanks Paul, been waiting for this!!

@braddocksgarage 2 месяца назад

YES! The video I was looking for. Before Part 1 was even finished I bought your book (diff website bc yours is sold out), subscribed to the channel, followed you on IG and FB, "Liked" and now I'm commenting. This has given me more insight into toploaders than ever before. I feel I could tackle this job now. Thank You!

@GearBoxVideo 2 месяца назад

Goad it helped!

@kerryperkins2989 Год назад

Cheers Paul! I have a 3 speed close ratio out of my Cougar that I want to freshen up and was wondering where to start. It is in good nick as my old man used to baby it and it has been sitting for nearly 40 years, I'm really looking forward to starting work on it. Thanks again. From 🇦🇺🇦🇺

@sigolamajor634 Год назад

U are wonderful sir. Um really benefiting from your videos::: Zimbabwe 🇿🇼

@johnvaluk1401 Год назад

Thank you for the very informative video. Wish this was out years ago when I had my top loader out of my car when rebuilding the car. Anyway. Thank you again

@BobKlaricich Год назад

Great Work very interesting

@dane9175 Год назад

I wish you were around when I did my first top loader I was 15 I am now 65. Three tries and I finally got it right. The parts counter guy set me up pretty well for parts. All I had to do let's get the parts in the right places. It only took me a week😎

@Dogleg1957 Год назад

Wow my exact story for me. Lucky for me my parts guy at Ford was a high-school friend. Those detent pins where a nightmare for me

@bassettraceengines Год назад

Thanks for sharing !!!

@drewrenewed Год назад

Looking forward to part 2 on this.... Enjoy those coffees

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Thanks a bunch!

@glenrude2218 Год назад

Great start. I’ve got a functioning top loader in my 66 mustang and am getting some grinding going into 2nd. So I guess it’s time to open it up.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

You can do it!

@danielbuck Год назад

I'll sometimes use a decent sized shot bag (like for pounding sheet metal against) to put under something that doesn't have a very flat bottom to keep it from rolling, the object pushes into the bag and the shot bag conforms to it and holds it.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Good idea

@RobertKohut Год назад

NIce!! Keep 'em coming... 🙂

@masek12rs Год назад

Happy Blessed New Year's sir!

@jcnpresser Год назад

The little foam ear plugs are good for stuffing holes to keep stuff from falling out.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Great idea. At times Ive used paper towels. I will have to try that

@dannylee9138 Год назад

Awesome video just can't wait to see the next video

@dannylee9138 Год назад

Can a muncie 3 speed be built to handle 600 hp 1/8th mile drag racing 🤔

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

@larryheilman7597 2 месяца назад

Thanks!

@GearBoxVideo Месяц назад

Thank you very much for your support!

@timmiller260 Год назад

Paul watched you utube stuff and need 4 speed top loader 1970 mustang it completely oem something that you need to go mqn i cant wait

@jimkyrgias6181 Год назад

Great video Paul, was wondering when you will do a top loader video, I use a telescopic magnet to remove and reinstall the detents, helps with them not flying around everywhere. Cheees

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Never found one that worked well.

@jimkyrgias6181 Год назад

@@GearBoxVideo correct you need to find one that is the right diameter. I enjoy watching your videos, we met a few years back at PRI, how about I have one with me next time I’m at PRI 😀😀

@qykryd Год назад

Great video! Just bought a date specific one for my Fastback to get rid of the auto, also looking at doing my friends T10 that he is having trouble with. Hanging out for the next video

@kresimirmilisa5560 Год назад

very good presented video watch your videos on your channel from croatia.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Thank you

@ripdunlap3221 10 месяцев назад

Paul, have you or will you do a video on BW T10 for a Mustang i have a 66 Mustang. Thanks, great videos.

@GearBoxVideo 10 месяцев назад

The mustang T10 is the same as a GM T10. They all come apart the same

@georgedreisch2662 Год назад

Great content and video. It’s been a few decades since I touched a top loader, and never understood why the FoMoCo crowd was so enamored with them. Guess it was about choices / options. Any experience with NV 4500? Thanks for sharing.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Its a great transmission. I havent built any NV stuff in years so I cannot give you an opinion

@__--JY-Moe--__ Год назад

wow! I bet the whole thing is untempered now! fun....

@DougBulmer 10 месяцев назад

Well done video. I have a 1964 toploader 4 speed and can't get the slip yoke all the way in. After inspection, about half of the length of the splines in the slip yoke have a slight twist. Tried a brand new slip yoke but it won't fully engage either. Is it possible the splines of the output shaft could also be twisted or is there something else that would prevent the slip yoke from fully engaging?

@GearBoxVideo 10 месяцев назад

Yes both output and yoke can twist

@derekderexson248 Год назад

Great video again Paul, I kept my eyes peeled at PRI, but didnt get to meet you. Did you have a booth? if not you should.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Paying 20K to buy a booth makes no sense at any of these shows. I did announce what booths I was at and times . Pri show I was at the Roltek booth

@BessieMorrison Год назад

Given there was a input shaft needle bearing in the bottom of the case before you separated the input/main shaft, could it be when this was previously put together he have dropped the needlebearings before engaging the main shaft, hence creating uneven tolerance between the input/main. And then resulted in the lockup because of un-even distribution of force on the gears/shaft.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Not the issue. Youll see in the upcoming vids

@danielesilvaggi Год назад

Weeeell I'm not a Ford guy but since it's you making the video Paul it is guying to have to be good. Sooo I am going to watch it just in case I will have to rebuild one LOL. Thank you for this series of videos and Happy New Year to you and yours. Great video, it's hard to believe how 4 speed designs differ so much.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

I appreciate that

@staljans Год назад

ABOUT TIME, lol 👍, what a coincidence, I been waiting for a great video on this. i have a 65-71 toploader apart, been sitting apart in garage for 20 years, some surface rust, and only main issue some broken teeth from the front of main shaft, and I have been watching tons of videos , yet no one has provided a really good step by step instructions of assembly, issues, fixes, or explanations, so to say i am excited is an understatement I can hardly wait for part 2, 3 and 4 , and if need be 5. . also a questions for you, sir. If some teeth from the main shaft are broken, possibly from trying to remove the C clip snap ring that holds the 3 -4th synchro gear on, is this detrimental or can it still be used on a non hipo car, jut for basic easy driving, a cheep fix, till i can find another good top loader to replace it? its missing 4 or so teeth at one end , and possibly 6 or so on the other end . and 3 or so teeth in between . Yah i know, buy a proper snap ring remover, doh! P.S. watched many of your videos, never once have i been disappointed. another great detailed video. thank you.5 out of 5 stars

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Any gears missing teeth have t be replaced. Thanks for watching

@timmiller260 Год назад

I have the trans i need to look it over to put back in the car is 70 muck 1 4sp and transmission was in shop under towels it got there in 75 i got it looks good the guy was thinking about 67 350 car swap it thinking it was good thinking glad he stopped.

@66XL Год назад

paul.. not many around bunch come in to me lots of fords getting restored

@gregrowley4983 Год назад

Ihave a Henry J with a 351w and the 3+1 toploader, if this combo was considered strong enough for the 77 econoline van I would think it would be fine for the Henry J. What are your thoughts .

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

The 3+1 was made for normal driving. So if younplan on power shifts and burn outs ....no

@shaunedwards2991 10 месяцев назад

Hey Paul. Love the video, do you offer hands on classes or in person training?

@GearBoxVideo 10 месяцев назад

Do you have a school?

@shaunedwards2991 10 месяцев назад

No, I just am interested in learning how to rebuild my toploader and I prefer hands on and i figured I would ask.@@GearBoxVideo

@GearBoxVideo 10 месяцев назад

I just do the videos to teach people to learn but you are free to ask questions

@mikeward2922 10 месяцев назад

at 15:20 when you say you "want to make sure the gear isn't hitting the lower gear", can you elaborate on what exactly that means? In the case, is it about the gaps between gears and the hammering will close that gap, or is it that when the bearing pops free, that the gear assembly comes crashing down together in the case? I want to be sure I don't gouge some important bits.

@GearBoxVideo 10 месяцев назад

When assembling or disassembling the transmission you just don't want to bang the gears against one another

@AmortuisGarage Год назад

Paul thank you for all the great info. I have a problem with a toploader Im getting ready to install. I noticed 3rd and 4th gear are hard to engage. It is also hard to find neutral from 3rd and 4th. What could cause this issue?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Sounds like a shifter or detent issue

@AmortuisGarage Год назад

@@GearBoxVideo I was just watching your part 3 where it talks about detents and rails. I disconnected my shifter linkage and still having trouble so Ill start with the detents. Thank you for your quick reply

@aroundlinemen Год назад

Great videos , how can I get your book s , thanks 🇺🇸

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Read the video description

@vdog4799 Год назад

I have a 1966 F-100 pick up and am learning about mechanics now. Would that be old enough to have this transmission?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

It wouldn't have one

@marklacombe3802 Год назад

For Chevy guys a McLeod bell housing so you can run a toploader because a Muncie or super T-10 won't hold up.

@ponga782 Год назад

Great videos! I was watching your 4+3 video, but I didn't see a 2nd video.. Is there one?.

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

No 2nd part

@ponga782 Год назад

That's a bummer.. I picked up one of those a few years ago trans and all and was thinking of retrofitting it in a 56 Belair project. Not sure it's worth foolin with.. it would be worth having a conversation with someone who knows about those units...

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

There will be a second part just need to get another unit in

@ponga782 Год назад

That's great to hear.. I'll definately looking forward to that.. keep up the videos!

@goldysgarage189 Год назад

Paul - when you tested the bearing you mentioned it was bad - how could you tell? Also, without a press is there any way to install new bearings or do you need to have them pressed on. One last thing - what is your source for top loader rebuild parts - DK?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Visually you can see the pits . I show this in my upcoming video

@ericlee4411 5 месяцев назад

Can you not just pull the input shaft out the front with everything still assembled to then press out and replace input shaft bearing? You mentioned there’s needle bearings. But is it impossible to load bearing seat with grease and put needle bearings back and reassemble input assembly?

@GearBoxVideo 5 месяцев назад

You cannot. The countergear is in the way

@frasercocks 8 месяцев назад

Do you buy transmission parts directly from Ford or elsewhere?

@GearBoxVideo 8 месяцев назад

My company is a durect dealer and manufacturer of parts

@pm270100 Год назад

ya coffee

@richannmcmaster8577 Месяц назад

How can i buy one of your rebuild kits and your book?

@GearBoxVideo Месяц назад

Thank you, you can go to my website using the links in the video description and purchase them online.

@ufartface Год назад

do you do mt82s?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Sorry I dont

@joe-hp4nk Год назад

Of all the 4 speed transmissions you work on, which is the toughest?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

None really

@joe-hp4nk Год назад

@@GearBoxVideo Hmm, of all the transmissions you don't work on, which is the toughest?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Again.. nothing. Its really all the same for me. But if you want to think of more labor intensive... There are some that require more labor than others . Too many to really make a comparison. Some require more technique or proper tools.

@joe-hp4nk Год назад

@@GearBoxVideo Hmm, well out of the box I would have to say the ford top loader. Not so much from experience but from hear say and articles I've read. All the best.

@66XL Год назад

@@joe-hp4nk for sure as far as a stock trans hard to beat the toploader

@jeepjoe4 Год назад

Hey Paul I have a 66 mustang and got ripped off from a guy and long story short I now have a ford 3+1 from a 77-78 time frame. My question is can I do anything with any parts of this transmission or should I just scrap it? Oh it would be going behind a built 289 roughly 400hp and 380tq

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Not worth it. Some people do what the overdrives for lighter duty applications

@jeepjoe4 Год назад

@@GearBoxVideo thank you for the reply. Also what would be considered a lighter duty for example. Less than 300 or less than 200 TQ?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

All you have to do is look up the ratings of what the transmission came out of . Its an OD unit so the ratio drops are not meant for performance. Meaning its not about the numbers it is how the unit was designed to be used

@DrumSouls1 Год назад

Where are you located

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Florida, info is in video description

@user-en7nx8bj2o 3 месяца назад

Towing the vehicle, without removing the drive shaft, can melt down the main shaft.

@vintagemxhoarder4724 3 месяца назад

At 11:30 minutes I can’t get the rail out. It won’t move at all.

@GearBoxVideo 3 месяца назад

remove the detent. If the rail won't move that meand the box couldnt shift into 3rd or 4th. If it did, then the rail moves

@vintagemxhoarder4724 3 месяца назад

I screwed up and pulled the springs out but not all the detents. I removed the springs but some how pulled it out of third and it became a bigger mess. I ended up just having it to an old school professional brought it back to life! Lol It’s an RUG-AJ.

@TargaWheels Год назад

Unless the owner was doing a restoration, maybe he should have went to a T5 or something better?

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

T5 is much weaker than a Toploader. However its a restoration. If you want a comparible 5 speed you would use a TKX by Tremec.

@user-md8se9qc8n Год назад

Your content is great, but why don't you provide the advantage of translation into Arabic? I have been following your meetings for a while in order to learn

@GearBoxVideo Год назад

Because I am not Arabic. I dont know how to translate it.

@sharg0 Год назад

Wish the jokers of manufacturing that thinks removing dipsticks are a good idea would hear that "check yer oil levels" ... And don't get me started on that oil has an indefinite life span. /rant over

@e-curb Год назад

IMO a dipstick is worthless and just creates another place to leak from. Unlike an engine, transmissions don't consume oil when they get older. As long as there's no puddle of oil under your car where you park, the level will always be correct. Besides, you should be changing your gear oil every couple of years anyway.