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This week Robert explains the 3 core Systems you need to know for Pathfinder 2E. Proficiency bonuses, Success Steps, and The 3 Action Economy of Combat.
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@thadeuscrone1594
@thadeuscrone1594 Год назад
3 guesses les go. 1. Goblin ranking system. (How to tell one goblin from another and rank them accordingly by height, breed, and use as a projectile) 2. Spell casting system (Magic is cooler than swords stay mad fighters.) 3. Currency system. (What good is it being a goblin if you got no gold to flash at the goblinas at the local rave cave) Can't think of anything else they could possibly be as these are probably the most important systems to any fantasy TTRPG.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Dang, we had it all wrong.... 😶 With Robert being the resident Goblin economist, he might want to weigh in on monetary theory in the future...
@philopharynx7910
@philopharynx7910 Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites I thought that Goblin economists were measuring how many goblins you pay for different goods?
@kwagmeijer26
@kwagmeijer26 Год назад
This is a great video. This is the best explanation I've seen on how these systems work together in a way that really helps you understand what makes them tick. saved for sharing with people later
@21msherb
@21msherb 11 месяцев назад
I absolutely agree with you. Very excellent description.
@NotLordAsshat
@NotLordAsshat 10 месяцев назад
Also it is extremely important to keep in mind that all of these proficiency calculations are done ahead of time, and are on your sheet. You only have to figure them out on level up or changing relevant items.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 10 месяцев назад
Yes absolutely!
@bl00dywelld0ne
@bl00dywelld0ne 11 месяцев назад
This is by far the best video I've seen on the basics of PF2e, and what people mean when they say that "the math is tight." Excellent work!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 11 месяцев назад
😳 thank you very much!
@_evillevi
@_evillevi Год назад
Wow, this was a great video! Normally it would have taken me at least half an hour to read everything you just explained. Thanks!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Hell yeah! Thanks for your support! We're trying really hard to explain things in an engaging way.
@elmwoodstone
@elmwoodstone Год назад
I LOVE this!!! I love the Jenga blocks and the layout. Great video and fantastic breakdown.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thanks so much!
@BasementMinions
@BasementMinions Год назад
Your visualization of multiple degrees of success using stairs was brilliant!
@bobmuto3040
@bobmuto3040 Год назад
Great video. I'm getting ready to run pathfinder for the first time for some friends, and this really helped me get a grasp on the system. It was a great primer before reading the handbook.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Awesome! We're going to be slowly but surely making more videos like this for newer players, stay tuned!
@Kudagraz
@Kudagraz 5 месяцев назад
Great video. This is the kind of work that simple put deserves more views. Very well explained. I'll be sharing this.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 5 месяцев назад
🥰
@kajetanmazurkiewicz5459
@kajetanmazurkiewicz5459 Год назад
Very well explained! Good job and keep going! I'd love to see a thorough breakdown of the classes (and what traps they have within) and the archetype system
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you! We definitely have content about classes planned for the future.
@THEcamobackpack
@THEcamobackpack Год назад
This is perfect! I'm running the beginner box for some new players this weekend, and this is definitely how I'm going to explain things to them!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Hell yeah! Thanks for your support, we've got a discord as well if you ever need more questions answered! 🤘
@MeridianSon
@MeridianSon Год назад
Full disclosure: I Subscribed in the first 30 seconds based ONLY ON THE EPIC NAME OF THE CHANNEL ALONE. Goblin. Salvage. Rites. You can do no wrong in my eyes.👍🏿
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Hell yea! Thank you for the support!
@philopharynx7910
@philopharynx7910 Год назад
I'm pretty experienced in 2e, but I like the way you put these across. A good resource to helping new people.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad to hear it!
@dji7732
@dji7732 Год назад
Well explained. I'm in the process of learning pathfinder. These systems are pretty much what I believe are the things to learn for new players. That and print or make a reference guide for the loads of actions you can take.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you so much for your support! We might post a couple cheat sheets in the description this weekend if we can find them online. There are so many that have been already made it be a shame to try and reinvent the wheel
@dji7732
@dji7732 Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites I got the beginner box a few days ago. It has some very nice cheat sheet handouts, but it seems to cover 20% of your options. For good reason, it's a beginner box after all. A sheet that has more would be welcomed. Just need to save it for further down the road to avoid painful looks of being overwhelmed.
@freezinpee91
@freezinpee91 Год назад
Well done. Goblins rock the house. Your video helps with fundamentals and comprehension. Liked and subscribed
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Awesome, thank you!
@neonparty101
@neonparty101 Год назад
Great explanation! Really intuitive
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your support, it really means allot to us! 😁
@kwagmeijer26
@kwagmeijer26 Год назад
my guess: -3 action economy -degrees of success -TEML I guess these because they all kind of interdependant on each other and all prop each other up really well.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
💯💯💯 I think you might be the first one to get it right! Are there any other systems you'd be interested in having us explain in the future?
@Emloch
@Emloch Год назад
You should also do a video on the three modes of play (exploration, encounter, downtime). I found that when I focused on understanding the differences, and relationships between them, it helped everything fall into place.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Funny enough, that was actually going to be in the video as an extra, but we decided to cut it due to video length. We definitely will have an episode specifically dedicated to modes of play in the future. We recently talked about modes of play in our most recent poscast on leadership if you want to check that out!
@Taylor_Lindise
@Taylor_Lindise Год назад
As someone who's been playing and teaching since launch, this video has been the best one I've seen that I can send to someone to succinctly explain the three pillars of this game! Going to behaving this video on speed dial.
@SilverDragonAcademy
@SilverDragonAcademy Год назад
Love the concrete examples. Haven't seen them presented that way and I think they will help a lot of people who think differently. Well done.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@DolkkarToyznstuff
@DolkkarToyznstuff Год назад
What a great video, well oganized, well explained and it's great to see more people coming to Pathfinder.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ThreeFootGood
@ThreeFootGood Год назад
This was VERY helpful. Thank you. I'll save this and show it to others in our Society group.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
AWESOME!
@Darkhobbo
@Darkhobbo Год назад
Great video, simple, clear and concise!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you! 🤘🤘🤘
@DTmishine
@DTmishine Год назад
Thank you - just sent this to some new players in my game.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Hell yea! Thanks for your support!
@feylin
@feylin Год назад
Damn good job. This is very clear and wish it was around when I learned it.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Awesome! Glad you liked it!
@dakotacouch5642
@dakotacouch5642 Год назад
Thank you sir. Been getting into pathfinder 2e lately really enjoy your content.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad you found it useful!
@illithidinfidel2464
@illithidinfidel2464 Год назад
Thank you, just switched to PF2 from 5e. This was helpful.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
ABSOLUTELY! Thanks for your support!
@somecallmetimelderberries432
Nice summary, thanks for sharing!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@kingdarkslime
@kingdarkslime Год назад
I’ve never used Pathfinder, so I am definitely interested!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Hell yea theo! It's easily one of best fantasy TTRPGs on the market right now. If you have any questions about it you can join the discord and we'll be happy to answer! Or here works 😂
@craigjones7343
@craigjones7343 Год назад
Pathfinder is a much more rules heavy system than 5e and take a little bit of effort to get into but it runs so smoothly that it is nearly effortless. I love games that have well thought out and tight rulesets and PF2 is really good. Taking 20 and Puffin Forest both put out very negative videos about PF2. I think Taking20 had mostly reasonable commentary on the system and it was just not a system he likes. Puffin Forest’s video was an awful and disingenuous representation of the PF2 system and how it runs. His example of a single round of combat was absolutely untrue. Nearly all of the calculation is already done on the character sheet.
@Kevlar-78
@Kevlar-78 10 месяцев назад
This is fantastic. Well done. Subbed cheers man !
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! More guides are in the works!
@thomasfavrot4987
@thomasfavrot4987 Год назад
Degrees of success, proficiency, and... ? Edit : Oh of course, 3 action economy 😅 Re edit : the content quality is really off the charts. Well done !
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Yea you got close! Thank you so much for the support. It really means a lot to us 😁. Are there any other systems you'd be interested in having explained?
@old_andrus
@old_andrus 9 месяцев назад
good job. Grats on 1k
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! 🥰
@teh201d
@teh201d Год назад
My guess: Learning about the path, looking for the path, and finding the path.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
All paths lead to....
@sbmasonator
@sbmasonator Год назад
Okay, MEGA helpful. Pithy, clear, engaging. Great video. +1 sub -- more please!!!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Welcome aboard!
@williscoleman9124
@williscoleman9124 Год назад
this is awesome. thanks for the video.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@szegediadam8793
@szegediadam8793 Год назад
My guess after 30 seconds: 3 action economy 4 degrees of success Circumstance/status/item bonus and penalties +1 conditions :)
@szegediadam8793
@szegediadam8793 Год назад
Of course... proficiency... Fuck... :D
@szegediadam8793
@szegediadam8793 Год назад
Great and informative video! I'm going to share it to my friends, who wish to better understand the basics of Pf2 :)
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you so much for your kind words! It truly means a lot to us and keeps us going.
@BartoszBielecki
@BartoszBielecki 9 месяцев назад
4 stages of success, 3 points action system, DC + prof + status + item + cirvum
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 8 месяцев назад
Well done!
@chavesa5
@chavesa5 Год назад
Pathfinder definitely seems intimidating and like a lot more work, but in the details it's really quite intuitive and even "common sense" once you understand what you're looking at
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Yes! That's exactly why we made the video. This system looks intimidating at first, but we think that's just because it's novel. Once you get familiar with it, It plays really smoothly.
@chavesa5
@chavesa5 Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites having taken time to introduce it to a lot of people in the last two weeks, I think the problem is without the system is a little too good for its own good. It has an impressive horizontal depth with a proportionate vertical depth needed to make the various options worthwhile. The problem is that tends to be overwhelming and quickly fatigues players who are not comfortable feeling like they have a grasp of the total system, which is most of them. It's a very human problem but most players really want to just roll up and feel in command of the system within five minutes, and most TTRPGs don't. It was only by minimizing the system to the greatest possible degree that WotC finally hit marketing success. It pains me to say it because it's so easy to say, but the best thing Paizo could do is figure out a very simple onboarding process that gets players into the fun stuff as immediately as possible
@JoshuaTwohill
@JoshuaTwohill Год назад
Great video!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you for your support! It really means a lot to us!
@efrenalonso8531
@efrenalonso8531 11 месяцев назад
Im 5 months late but ill try to guess. If anyone is taking a caster, make sure they understand the difference between prepared and spontaneous casting. Second, healing. The whole encounter system is based around being top health, which wasnt the case in D&D, so learning about mend wounds and stuff is pretty vital. and third, how MAP works and to make sure you have options to spend all your actions once you're already positioned and buffed.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 11 месяцев назад
Very close!
@BasementMinions
@BasementMinions Год назад
Here's my guess before I watch. 1) Everything is based around the number 10. It's usually 10 plus relevant modifiers, critical success and failure is 10 above or ten below, all base stats start at 10. 2) multiple degrees of success 3) three action economy
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Ding ding ding we have a winner!
@BasementMinions
@BasementMinions Год назад
I'll take 2/3 xD. Your focusing specifically on proficiency and how it breaks down was so well done. Especially with how you used it to naturally lead into 4 degrees of success by addressing crits during attack calculation. :)
@darkenblade986
@darkenblade986 Год назад
really good video man.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you so much for your support! It really means a lot to us!
@darkenblade986
@darkenblade986 Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites yea i make it a point to comment and like smaller channels. hope ur channel grows. pf2e build vids may be popping soon. especially if u do a little bit of click bait like "eldrich baker - the chef feat is good!!!" and have the build be about a hag descendent human alchemist or whatever that makes treats (potions) for your teammates that buff them. good luck.
@Fmanjavachi
@Fmanjavachi Год назад
Great video... I'm hitting that subscribe button
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Yay! Thank you for your support! It really means a lot to us!
@StanjeBrojila
@StanjeBrojila Год назад
I use my powerfull 3-action move to nudge the YT algorithm your way.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you!
@jacobroden2279
@jacobroden2279 Год назад
Top tier content
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Thank you so much for your support! It really means a lot!
@grumpyguy7656
@grumpyguy7656 Год назад
Action economy, hero points, DC system.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Close!
@maxmusterspace6037
@maxmusterspace6037 Год назад
Let's see. 1. 4 degrees of success 2. Sliding scale crit-rules 3. 3 Modes of play After Watching edit: - I thought about proficiency. Dang it. :D - Nailed the 4 degrees of success. And noticed that my 1 and 2 are basically the same. - I thought about the 3 actions too. But I thought that's do obvious. Oh well. That was fun. Note about the debuff: 11 - 3 = 8.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Lol yep, after shooting that scene three or four times and making various mistakes along the way I just kept the best take I had 😂 Thanks for your support!
@maxmusterspace6037
@maxmusterspace6037 Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites How long did it take to create that video? From inception till "ready for upload".
@patkelley8293
@patkelley8293 Год назад
Pretty good. I've been studying different systems and I really like Pathfinder. You can see a lot taken from Advanced DnD but minus the rule fog. What about feats?
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 8 месяцев назад
Feats are a separate but just as important topic. They deserve their own video honestly.
@challst
@challst Год назад
Three systems guess: 1) 3 action economy, 2) Four levels of result: Crit Suc/Suc/Fail/Crit Fail. 3) Feats define me. (Following instructions comment)
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Great guess!
@jeffersonromao4999
@jeffersonromao4999 Год назад
Let's guess: - 3 action system. - degrees of success. - Traits.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Close! Traits were definitely high on our list! Explaining traits in the future will be difficult. Is there an analogy that springs to mind?
@jeffersonromao4999
@jeffersonromao4999 Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites For me traits are like keyboard shortcuts. They end up saving a lot of time. So if the player uses a spell that has the Mental trait on a Zombie that has the Mindless trait, you already know that the spell will have no effect. Rather than trying to memorize all the shortcuts, the best way to learn is to only use the ones you need when you need them.
@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec
😊 👍
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
😁😁😁
@michaelturner2806
@michaelturner2806 Год назад
I'm guessing exploration, combat, and... social?
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Close!
@lexaj6886
@lexaj6886 Год назад
I have some Questions even after playing the System for over a year now. What is up with these weird Ability Scores, 10 means 0, 20 means 5 and so on.... what's the need for the larger number?... nowhere in the core rulebook have i found a reference or calculation using these. Also: what is up with AC, this just seems weird to me. I am very used to dodging and armor being different things that affect different mechanisms in TTRPGS. Usually dodging is weakening or straight up evading the severity of an attack and armor somehow reduces Damage actually taken. It's kind of hard for me to wrap my head around this conflation of these two things. Maybe someone can tell me something to these larger questions. Edit: I know these things are inherited from D&D, but as someone who never had a particular interest in that system I never encountered these Questions before.
@danitenotes
@danitenotes Год назад
The ability scores are a relic of D&D and we nerds just can't quit it. You can basically just use the modifiers in 2e. AC is just an easier way of managing armor and dodging. One thing PF2 did was bring some of the neat mechanics regarding that into the game. Shields for example now have to be raised to increase your AC and can be used to minimize damage taken with the shield also taking damage.
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
G Michael makes a really good points. Dad onto his explanation in previous editions certain spells and abilities would make a direct alterations to your base stats. So you could get like a negative 4 to your strengths or something. These days It's just a golden cow, a Leftover part of the game they didn't want to change because they worried it would probably be too much of a departure for players changing from other games or other editions. But you're completely right, you could strip the ability scores away and just deal in bonuses. Armor class has a really long and sorted history, but history alone shouldn't dictate how a mechanic works in the future, right? It turns out when you're playing a TTRPG like this, the more steps you add to combat the more time consuming it becomes, it may not seem like a lot at first, but adding a Dodge mechanic and then an armor mechanic adds a huge level of complexity on the tabletop and in character generation. With the proficiency system, AC actually makes for a really robust and dynamic armor system. You really got to try it! Thanks for commenting with your questions, if you have any more, feel free to jump into our discord and ask away!
@danitenotes
@danitenotes Год назад
@@goblinsalvagerites I like your observation. In RPGs you want combat to be engaging. The more steps you add to it, the more it slows down. The key is to make it engaging and fast. I think PF2e does a good job at balancing that.
@urimor6236
@urimor6236 10 месяцев назад
3 actions?
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 10 месяцев назад
Yes!
@JacksonOwex
@JacksonOwex Год назад
2:20 That's not exactly true! Every... is it 4 or 5 levels?...(5, it's level 5, so you'll get 4 boosts 4 times across the 20 levels) you get FOUR(4) more boosts to apply to four(4) ability scores(can't boost any single score more than once each time you gain the boosts)! If your score is under 18 it goes up by 2 if it's 18 or over it goes up by only 1. So depending on which abilities you are raising you could drastically change your bonus but if the score is already high it's probably not going up very much
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Yep! When writing the script we included a longer explanation of that section but decided to cut it down for simplicity. When your explaining complicated stuff like this sometimes you have to take liberties/ generalizations like that. But yes, you're absolutely correct!
@YellowCladKing
@YellowCladKing Год назад
Algorithm, feast upon the offering of this comment!
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites Год назад
Lol thank you King! Are you on the discord yet?
@patkelley8293
@patkelley8293 Год назад
Pretty good. I've been studying different systems and I really like Pathfinder. You can see a lot taken from Advanced DnD but minus the rule fog. What about feats?
@goblinsalvagerites
@goblinsalvagerites 8 месяцев назад
Nice!
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