12:00 is mind blowing!! I haven't had thought of an idea how to strip wire so easily with Surge, until you shows how to pinch the wire with thumb in unlocked position. That is juat really inspirational!!
I bought a Surge as an impulse buy off Amazon. Regretted spending $130 on a tool I probably won't use. But figured its already being shipped, I'll use for a couple of days, won't like it and ship it back for a refund. That was back in January. Now it's always on my belt and I use it almost everyday at work
@@txtoolcrib mine got shipped out with a #2 Robertson bit. When I found that out that almost sealed the deal. But the saw came in handy, the pliers and cutters were super useful and the large flat head is perfect fit for a component on site
@@txtoolcrib To my taste it is a perfect review of the multitool. I like your detailed coverage of each tool from the real usage perspective. The more details the better for me, as it is also educational. Some tools I am not using in my every-day life at home, so listening to how you use them in your heavy- duty applications gives me ideas about how to use my tools more, therefore I am listening to your review even for the multitool I already have ! And of course it is very clear and detailed explanation about Surge specifically, so finally I understood what is it good for . I enjoyed to watch a number of your reviews already and I wish you the best from Ukraine! Thank you a lot !
I very much appreciate you taking the time to comment. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to watch my videos. I hope that you will find the rest of my content as informative. I strive to be informative and honest as I can in every product that I review while incorporating my perspective as a blue collar worker. I have made some modifications to my personal Leatherman Surge that you might enjoy, you can find them titled under "Leatherman Super Surge" in my playlist. Warmest wishes from the United States of America.
I got my surge 2 days and I've already used it a lot! Such a handy thing to carry. I teach gas engineers in the UK at a private training center and it's so handy to have what is essentially a tool kit on my belt at all times. Thanks for the videos, you've been the reason I went down the surge route. 👍
Great video. 100% agree with everything in this video. I've been using my 1st generation Surge since I received it as a gift in 2008 and it's still going. The best tool I've ever owned.
Thanks for the review! I learned some new things about my favourite tool 😃 New Surge in black oxide was both my first (and as of today) my last multitool. I’m more of a white collar guy, but I’ve always loved tinkering with stuff and even today I prefer to repair both stuff in my flat and my car myself (also, I’m known among my friends as “the guy to ask for help with fixing pretty much anything”), so the Surge was my most obvious choice. It’s not the lightest or most compact multitool, but that’s a price I’m willing to pay for having a toolbox on my belt. That’s my first comment on your channel, so I just want to say that I absolutely love your content. Keep it up! Greetings from Poland!
I think I am pretty much of the same mindset that you are sir. I think the trade off of the weight of the surge is counteracted by the usefulness. I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and for watching my channel. Thank you.
TX Tool Crib And thank *you*, sir! Your channel was one of my greatest recent discoveries on RU-vid. You’re doing a great job, much appreciated 😃 You’ve earned a loyal subscriber 😉
thx for the review, I´ve got a original "Leatherman tool" for about 28 years, still with the original leather holster and this thing has been around the world, accompaning me every single vacation almost over the last 28 years (asia, europe, hiking, africa, mauritius, usa, seychelles, indonesia, aso.). I´ve build two houses with it and used it for several jobs inside the house or working on my guitars / amps. It still works flawlessly, but now, it´s time for something completely different.... ;-) and you´ve made my decision so much easier. thx again!!
@@koga8100 I´m kinda pedantic with my stuff. I cut a hot wire with it once and the marks are still on the blade....just to remind me, to never do that again :-)
Another good review Ben. It's amazing to me that bona fide blue collar professionals are using these high end multi tools even on the job and for service calls. It's making me rethink the whole multi tool philosophy of use. Also amazed how far manufacturers of them have come in the usability and functionality of them. To echo the comments of some others "the surge is a beast"
Spot on video. I just bought my second surge after losing my army issued one due to it being lost in a move. I work on industrial machinery and the surge always goes to the field with me for work. I trust all leatherman products for field work but the surge is my number one. I have another leatherman that i took with me to job sites that i broke the needle nose portion of the pliers on. It broke while i was outside bending a small bracket in the arctic at 60 degrees below zero. It took that much to break it. The warranty process was the best i have ever had. I sent it back after talking to them and got the same one back with new pliers and they even sharpened all my cutters for and completely went through it to bring it back to new quality. I never asked them to do that, they just did it. Leatherman will always have me as a customer without doubt. If anyone is looking to buy the surge, buy it with the bit kits and the extension. It is hands down the best you will get in a multitool.
Thank you sir. My apologies for the late response. Sometimes I get overwhelmed and miss some of the comments. I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
I've used the 300 and "new" Surge simultaneously through the years. The Surge beats out the 300 in my warehouse work; the 300 tends to go with me outdoors (camping, hiking, honey-do work, etc.). The most used tools are the plier/wire cutters and the file. (The tools I never use, on all my Leathermans, are the can/bottle openers.) I prefer the Rebar over the Wave. (My favorite Leatherman, edc, is the Blast.) Great review, very thought provoking, Ty.
Thanks for making this thorough video. I currently use a wave and I’ve really been wanted something bigger, I find myself looking at this all the time.
The awl section was loose on mine and I was tempted to send it back cause of that, but instead I bought two torx screwdrivers and tightened it myself. 100% satisfied with this thing. I love it. They should not bother with the tamper proof torxes tho. That's me speaking from a perspective that considers most people 'honest and with good intent', aka, "I just want to tighten or loosen this up a bit".
Well, this is my first multitool, and I've been using it quite a lot since I got it earlier this year. I sometimes ask myself how could I have ever lived without it! Weight hasn't been an issue for me as I didn't have anything else to compare it to, but gosh the rest feels so cheap now because of their lighter weight 🙈🤣 In all honesty, the Surge definitely has a lot to offer as part of my EDC, and the bit kit and ratchet extender does complete the Surge even more. Money well spent for sure
I gave my surge to my son when he was deployed in the Middle East, he absolutely loves it. So i started carrying my swisstool. Although the machining is excellent on the swisstool, i much prefer the surge. I'm going to have to pick another one up.
I am 64 years young and still have the 1st, original Leatherman that Tim came out with. It has a much thinner blade because of being sharpened so many times but is still in excellent condition because of being taken care of so well. My original sheath is held together by electrical tape, though. (I have always been in the trades, also) I, now, have many Leathermans - Rebar, Wingman, original Wave, Supertool, Free P4, and MY favorite, also, the Surge. I agree with EVERYTHING that you have said and would like to say that you can modify your Surge to have everything that you want, (I did) with a bit of ingenuity and thought. It takes a steady hand and patience. It is too bad, though, that Leatherman does not sell individual parts because if they did, it would be much cheaper to do. But you can easily chisel grind the serrated blade, in the fashion that you described, (like I did) for nothing. Thank you for the video and I am also looking forward to the premium or "+" model that you described! 😊
@@txtoolcrib All the modifications that you described. All can be done, granted through large investments, with different Teflon or bronze washers, much experimentation, and alot of patience. Don't give up and you can end up with the ULTIMATE Surge! Good luck! 😊
Hey man just wanted to say thanks. I've been using Gerber MTs for years (and have broken SO many), i never bought a Leatherman because i thought I'll just break it eventually. Finally i had two Gerber truss fail in the same way on me cutting TIE WIRE, that's when i decided to get a Leatherman for work. I bought the wingman, but it's just too damn small to get out of the pouch wearing gloves, and those wire cutters are just awful. You helped me pull the trigger on the Surge, and i gotta say i absolutely love this MT. I'm not scared of breaking it at all, and performs every task i do daily with ease. So thank you! SURGE IS KING 👑
Ben, I've watched alot of your comparison videos and I used to hear you talking about the Surge, many times using it in comparison and I would think man he really likes that tool. I've carried and used different types of Leatherman products since their beginning in the early 80s lately the Wave+ and it was awesome, served me well but I still felt there was a bit missing in my work EDC. So after many videos (yours included) and reading on the web I bit the bullet and purchased a Surge and I compliment it with the bit kit, bit extension and ratchet driver and I have to say...wow!! You and everyone else were right. I think I'd be hard pressed to find a multitool that even comes close. I'm an aircraft mechanic by trade so I want tools that are gonna work and Leatherman tools work and my Surge really works 😄 thanks for the great videos and great info you provide.
I work at heights a lot for work and I have dropped it a few times. Broke a part on the scissors so they had no spring broke the lock for the inner tools and broke the tip off the small slotted screw driver. Now I carry the lanyard ring with paracord so when I need to use it I can attach it to myself.
@@adamargue68 comes a bit late, but the nitecore tactical lanyard might be good for you. I use it on my swisstool x (and soon surge) and it is quite useful.
I have to say this is the best review of the surge I have seen. You covered the tool well and even put your extensive experience with it and gave some great ideas for additional uses and several improvements that Leatherman could do to improve. I would love to see a pry bar on the large screw driver and agree that the small screwdriver can be replaced ed with something else. Again awsome review thank you.
I JUST bought a Surge for myself (gifted one to my son-in-law last October for his birthday...he is in food service, and can use a hefty mulitool, but does complain about the weight----so I got him a kewl pancake sheath for Christmas, to redistribute that drag on his belt! 😉)...I was impressed by its beefiness, compared to my Wave, but I was intrigued by the Free P4, and decided to get one of those (I gave my Wave to my mechanic-buddy, who wuz thrilled to get it!)... Anyway, after watching a number of your video's, and your reviews on both the P4 and Surge, I decided to go all-out, and get the bit kit and extension, as well as a Clip 'N Carry sheath (got one for my P4 already, and wuz waiting for a Surge model to be marketed) in black carbon fiber. I also ordered an extremely kewl carrier from an Italian leathersmith, which houses the Surge/saw blades ("Bosch T-Shank"----is that what you called the fitting?)/both bit kits/and even a small flashlight... I'm a locksmith by trade, and even though I DO like my P4, it isn't heavy/sturdy enuff for the intensive work that I get into sometimes...not to mention that it has no bit exchanger----which is a MUST for a locksmith ("you can't have enough screwdrivers or lights", is a lockie's credo...!). And I agree with your statements about the potential improvements for the Surge; it definitely needs a package-cutter (my P4 has that, on the large flat head screwdriver/pry bar combo), chisel-point on the serated blade----which is a nice feature on my P4. A better quality steel for the the blades would be great----it would hold an edge better and longer before needing to be sharpened... I read reviews on the bit kit; a few remarked that the bit metal quality is suspect/breaks easily...I would bet that some of the aftermarket companies are selling inferior overseas bits, versus Leatherman-manufactured bits (or do they subcontract that part of their business out to other companies?)...therefore, I agree that an optional standard 1/4" bit extender would be a wise improvement, if a Surge upgrade is ever implemented... 👌👍
A friend of mine bought it for me as a present when I left the Marine Corps. I love it! I edc the wave, but the Surge is in my truck for when I need or want it.
I love the Surge. What a beast it is. That t-shank holder is truly exclusive. There are almost no dedicated ones to buy. The Surge is the best option for that. I also love the reamer, the pliers/cutters, can opener, and blades. I could live without the fixed flatheads. And the scissors are good, although the cutting edge is a little short for such a large tool, and the thumb rest is a little too far away from the body of the tool for my liking. Still, this is the best heavy duty multi-tool around hands down. Great review Ben. I just watched it again and realized I had not commented or liked, so I rectified that now. :D
Just ordered my second letherman this month first was the super tool 300m and now the surge I think I see a new addition in my future your videos are the best as far a mts go
Thanks for showing me how it works. I bought a new one from a garage sale. It was rusted frozen. Never ever opened. So I've been working on it. She's really a project.
I enjoyed the review. I've been carrying my Surge for a few years now and it's a real work horse. The t-shank is my favorite feature. I use a Bosch metal blade because it's real handy to have a little hacksaw on me. I don't notice the weight but it sags any belt not 3 inches wide. Of all the changes I'd like to see, I think I'd appreciate a better case the most.
Thank you sir. That t-shank feature is really nice, I agree. Can’t argue about belt sag either, very valid point. Much like yourself though, the weight is a non factor for me. Thanks for watching.
I like your idea on the scraper for the surge. gonna go to town with my sharpener and grind that to a chisel. Cant tell you how many times I've needed a scraper and just had to try with the blades. Can't believe I never thought of that.
I've been praising the Surge for a long time and the suggestions that you are making are spot on. Aside of the blade (which can be part of a Premium version), I'd like to see them integrated in their common version. Keep up your excellent work!
Thank you very much. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my video and hope you will find some of my other multi tool videos as useful as this one.
@@txtoolcrib I do not have the time nor the means to fully review multi-tools but I'm definitively a multi-tools (and EDC) enthousiast. Do not hesitate to contact me using my YT contact info to discuss, ask questions or simply to ask how things are going or how hot/cold my part of the planet is. I'll definitively try to keep a closer look at your work. Thanks!
@@txtoolcrib Thinking about this later today, I'd like to add something to be improved on the Surge (and frankly, on all Leatherman multi-tools). I'd like to have pliers with diamond-shaped (criss-cross) rather than straight, perpendicular serrations. Just like Klein, Channel Locks and other "professional" plier manufacturers. It would improve the grip and be more gentle when need be.
A very comprehensive review Ben. I love my Surge. I even got a Maxpedition single sheath for it to increase my carry ability. But try as I might to EDC it, I just find it too heavy for day to day basis (as I work in a commercial kitchen and don't require the heft). It has been relegated to my back-pack and therefore still accessible daily. I have gone back to my Wave for (on person) carry.
First of all, thank you. For your application, I think that the Wave is a good choice. While the Surge is a superior multi tool from a capability standpoint, it doesn’t work for everyone. I consider the Surge to be more of a tradesmen multi tool. The Wave/Charge series are very capable multi tools that are much more EDC friendly.
I've had my Surge since about 2006 and never realized until watching this video that it uses the T-Shank blades, not even 10 minutes in and I learned something - thank you. Mine is the older model without the replaceable wire cutter, but it's good to know that it's likely a non-issue, and as far as I can tell it's the only difference.
Ben; your EXCELLENT, THOROUGH, AND THOUGHT-PROVOKING SURGE UPGRADE( especially the BLISTER PACK CUTTER) reccommendations make for a NEW SURGE LIMITED EDITION! The addition of the best of all LEATHERMAN accessories has to offer is well OVERDUE. Have you noticed there are too many after-market clone multitools creeping up with the features you mentioned in this video?? I hope LEATHERMAN SERIOUSLY takes your SURGE UPGRADE suggestions seriously. This newly redesigned SERGE would be a true Multitool winner!!
Back in the day I loved the old Gerber multitool that used the Black and Decker style jig saw blades. I remember that not all the u shanked saw blades fit and it lacked the file. With the new Surge the blade exchanger has become a much better alternative.
The way you review tools is just awesome, Ben. I followed you since your Free review which you pointed out the cons when others were just excited about them and couldn't find the disadvantages in them ✌🏼✌🏼 By the way, I'm gonna buy a surge soon and I chose the complete black version that comes with bit kit and extender and molle sheath... Just wanted to ask you about the colors, which one do you prefer and why?! Thanks so much, and keep it up man! 👊🏻
Thank you, I really appreciate you following my videos. Really does mean a lot. I prefer the regular stainless version for work. When I'm away from work though, I actually like the black/silver version of tools. I tried to do an all black Surge once, it just wasn't me. Vehicles today are being sold in blacked out editions more and more. While I love the look of them, I wouldn't own one for myself. Everyone has their own style. I honestly don't have a good reason as to why I don't carry black oxide multi tools, except that it just doesn't suit my personality I guess. I do think they look sharp though. There is one exception. I think the blacked out version of the Charge+ is one awesome looking multi tool.
Great review on the best of the best......if you need a tool of this size.A good big one will always beat a good small one and this tool is a very good big one.I'm a maintenance operative on a holiday lodge park and i use a multi tool daily for different tasks,the surge copes with everything that is thrown at it without fear of it breaking. I'm currently in the process of designing and making a variety of different tools out of old jigsaw blades.....the options are endless.Chisels,scrapers,mini blades,needle type tools,ultra fine screwdrivers etc can all be manufactured from jigsaw bldes if you have access to a tool like a dremel with its multitude of mini cutting discs and grinding tools.......even the hooked blade types that people like.The types of tool you can make out of old jigsaw blades is only reall limited by the ingenuity of the owners of this tool and as said above access to a mini cutting/grinding tool. I must agree that leatherman needs to make a driver that takes standard hex bits.......although i expect that the extension could be modified quite easily.
This is what I carry as well. Pull it out at least twice a day. But gives me piece of mind. If I ever get stuck anywhere or go. Camping I can make it. Mine is the 2nd revision.
While I know it's subjective, I couldn't agree more. Theres something simple, pure, and sturdy about the Surge that other multitools seem to lack. And the modularity with the t-shank and bit carriers puts it over the top. No gimmicks here. Just a good, solid tool
I own two Surges with their won seperate bit kits and spare saws and files, yet after watching your wonderful video, I just ordered another set :D Well, you never know...
Great review on a classic! I own the original Surge along with the updated version in silver and black. I took the eyeglass bit holder from the original and replaced the slim screwdriver on the updated silver one when I first got it. The only other tool I have that's heavily moded is my PS4 "Frankentool". That goes with me everywhere on my keychain. I own a Free P2 and for some reason can't pull the lever on a P4 yet...probably because it can't compare to the Surge. I've seen a guy with 3D printed upgrades for the P2 and P4 on Shapeways that incorporates the bit driver and he is still prototyping a t-shank mod. He has sheaths for them as well. Interesting stuff. Ideally I would have the Surge in my bag, the PS4 on my keys and pocket/sheath carry the P4 with his mods. I might try to purchase a used wingman and see if I can get the package opener on my Surge. Anyway, great video. I've been enjoying all your reviews!
Thx very for the video. I’ve been agonizing over which multi tool I’m gonna ask for for Christmas, and your video has validated my choice. To be fair I have vacillated between this, the Wave+, and the MUT, my main application being camping/recreational firearms. The Wave is lighter and slimmer (and cheaper) but doesn’t have the robust pair of scissors or the blade exchanger. The MUT has some cool firearm specific tools, but no scissors or files. The Gerber Center Drive has the best bit driver design, but their overall quality is just not up to Leatherman standards. I could do without can openers, and if there is already a bit driver then I have no need whatsoever for extra flatheads. If I could design my own perfect MT it would be a Surge/MUT/Gerber Center Drive hybrid, with a premium steel blade like the Charge or the brand new Arc, and with the magnetic technology of the Free Series. Multi-tools can be quite frustrating, none of them having quite everything you want and all having something you don’t. You just have to pick the one that comes closest, and for me that one appears to be the Surge. Now my dilemma is, Christmas is still a month away. Can I really wait that long?
Good review. You're missing a couple things though. The large screwdriver is a scraper. Take the file off and file down the leading edge square as a scraper should be filed. Also the way the screwdriver bit is angled slightly is perfect when the tool is half open and used like a conventional screwdriver without slipping. Use the diamond side of the file to sharpen the knife. I've had mine for ten years in a steel mill and use it daily. So much so I can manipulate the entire tool with one hand. Mine doesn't have the replaceable cutters but I've cut many 1/8 inch 7018 welding rods no problem. I have to disagree with the scissors though..the spring is not strong enough and it slips where it's attached to the frame losing spring tension. Mines beat but nothing is wiggly. I'm gonna buy a new one but this time I'm getting the stainless one so when I drop it in a dark, dingy hole in a dark, dingy steel mill I'll see it easier when i shine my flash light on it. I agree though S30V for the blade steel would be nice.
To carry my surge I put a key loop on the lanyard mount on the surge and threw a carabiner clip on it and hang it from a belt loop. usually held in place by my back pocket.
Yea , I use it at work constantly and it was just too awkward pocket carrying . The carabiner keeps it sitting in the pocket yet vertical and just flick of the thumb and its in service. That surge is the most important tool I never knew I needed.
I also really like the removable file because you can use it so sharpen your knife in a pinch, the seraded blade is also really good at cutting the steel straps on pallets of monokote
I carry a swisstool with the serrated blade and plain blade in a skinth shield xl on the side of my vero tech mct. As a plumber I sometimes have to go up on the roof and then I can just take the MT of and throw a channelock in my pocket and do what needs doing without dragging my entire tool bag up with me. I would love a surge AL though 154cm blade and a serrated blade with “guthook”. The guthook on the charge is an excellent blisterpackage opener!
Ive been looking at multitools for about 3 months. I think ive made my decision. Now i just needs to wIt for the surge + with better steel. Nice write up 👍🏻
When my old PST did not prove to be strong enough to handle a hardened wire, I bought Surge and tried the wire with it. I somewhat misunderstood the term “wire” cutter and thought it was meant for thick iron wires and the Surge wire cutter suffered a slight dent, thought it doesn’t have problem on electric wires. I examined the wire and while it was very strong it didn’t stick to a magnet. A google search and I believe the wire contained rich austenite phase. I made similar mistake with my PST in the early phase of use. PST wire cutters got a serious dent but over time it wore out and it moves smooth and cuts well. Foolish me learning little lesson from experience, and expected too much from far more robust looking Surge
Ive been getting real serious about carrying a multi tool especially a leathermen. Almost pulled the trigger on a Wave+. After watching this video im definitely getting a Surge!
The Surge is a great multi tool. I am a little biased towards this particular one though. I depend on it every single day, and it has never let me down.
Compadre! You made a perfect review. Me too will want a blade upgrade, as well the serrated hook. . . Is the best Leathermans I had for work. Wave plus for house/casual. Rebar when I want something slimmer or had a formal event. P2 is my truck stock. Crunch at backpack ready for specific jobs. But Surge is my 70-80% time consuming. Weight is not a problem. I don't even feel it. My only kind a complain is the spring inside the extension. Hell that stuff. If make hard sometimes to work with bits. The Surge is the best handle when force is apply. Some people like the 300 but believe when you need pressure on pliers is far more comfortable Surge. Thanks for the excellent review, Sir. Saludos!
Love the Surge. I wish it would delete one of the folding screwdrivers that would be covered by their bit kit and replace it with a dedicated eye glass screwdriver holder. It should have a corkscrew as well. But ibloventhe fit, finish, and the engineering that went in to make this multitool.
My first Surge's pliars snapped off -- broke -- right next to the hinge of the needle nose pliers. The thinnest part right there, where each half has to clear the other ...just snapped off one day. Turns out the steel isn't even 3mm there and if there's any "weak link in the chain", it's right there. Since it was SO delicate the first time in this regard, I tend to 'baby' my replacement Surge. Which you of course should never have to do with a multi tool.
Without a doubt The best multitools on the market in general, together with the younger brother Wave. The direct competitor in quality and robustness is victorinox swisstool ... which, however, is less versatile. (not to mention that if it breaks, victorinox offers a much more limited warranty than leatherman). I believe that the other manufacturers (gerber, sog etc) have not yet managed to create something equivalent. Great video.
Great video, watched a few of them over the last days. Will help me choose what to buy when in the states next month. I’m a big guy working on US shredders, so probably the surge. Thanks for your efforts.
The Surge is definitely the best. I have 2, a Black one with the American Flag on it and a Gold Plated one. The weight is a problem. I wear shorts in the warm months. Elastic waistband shorts and I just can’t use the Surge because it pulls my shorts off. I wish they would make a titanium version.
The blade steel and cutting hook are the main reasons I got a charge tti over a surge (I go through a lot of tight spaces so the smaller size is nice.) A nicer version of the surge would be even better though as it's beefier frame makes it an all around more trustworthy tool
The package opener is a good idea, I would rather use the Swiss tool version that also has the wire stripper and scrapper. Of course as a personal custom 😅
I'm a big fan of the bit exchanger, but only to the extent that it'll hold the bit extender, which in turn can hold the Wiha 13-piece bit set.. The Leatherman bit kit is one step above useless.
Had one 2 years ago and really really loved it. But thanks to German law it was forbidden to carry as an EDC. So I sold it (incl. Bitset and Pocketclip) and bought an SAK. Now I miss it really hard because of its functionality.
I'm coming back to Leatherman. but i wish they made the Surge bigger. I'm so used to the Powerassist but it needs more tools. I will see this week once i receive my Surge.? I wrote to Leatherman about a lager multitool they haven't responded yet
Not only can you swap the saw for a file and use metal saw blades on the interchangeable tools you can make your own custom tool that fits that spot if you're up to it.
Really enjoyed this review - as I'm sure you enjoyed making it. I think you sold me on the Wave - not your intention! - this is a little mighty for my uses. I'm gonna check out your review of the Wave now. Thank you so much for sharing your fine understanding of these tools. Warm ragards Jennie
See I wish they'd use a bit exchanger that u could fit a standard bit right in the tool not a accessory. Could go right to the hardware store and pick up a new bit get a new saw blade of needed. I will say I like the flathead screwdrivers for adjusting carburerators on lawn and outdoor equipment 4wheelers etc.
