Leaving a Tesla Unplugged in Winter Overnight: Battery Cold Test in Canada 

LMAO 😂😂😂

Me too. That's why I'm watching. If I had one I would be busy driving it :D

Me too. That's why I'm watching. If I had one I would be busy driving it :D

@@mdawid11 your a bot huh

@@burnoutlegend0185 or youtube glitched and commented twice.

I can tell by the abundance of water and puddles in the ground that it is really wet.

why cant you both tell by just the snow 😂

@@hasiktir3966 Because snow doesn't squeak until it's below about minus 12 C. Another way to tell it's cold by 'November' and 'Saskatchewan'.

@@RandyTWester I live in SK here bud. She’s fuckin cold! 🤣

Usually when it gets to -20 Celcius below the snow starts sounding like styrofoam. Thats when you know its cold!

Yes, same for me without any temperature thing, sentry mode eats up roughly 300W per hour with just being watching people passing by in summer time, I.e. no heating cameras. Greetings from Germany, too Tanja

@@verkunstetunterwegs given the massive amount of power in he battery that seems like an insane amount of power. I wonder if tesla will optimise this.

@@ericwalker2434 yes That would be really great

@@ericwalker2434 There's not much optimizing to be done. Leaving Sentry Mode on makes the entire car stay awake in it's fully powered up state, because that's what's necessary to track nearby activity using the Autopilot camera system. And even then, it uses only 3 lightbulbs worth of power. That's actually not that bad, all things considered.

My truck uses no water when parked.

As a former detailer I also agree. I’m curious to know more about that car wash. We have concrete stalls we can wash cars in here in the US but they’re outdoor and suck to use in the winter, but are great for removing a majority of the salt/debris off cars in the winter. That car wash looked nice, indoors and with tons of room to work in!

@@blusun2 right i’m like where can I find one of these i’ve been hand washing mine but I also don’t have to deal with snow!

@@blusun2 There are few car washes exactly like this here in Eastern Europe country called Estonia, inside mall underground parking lots where they have made these the best they can because then people go shop in the mall more often or when they go shop then they go wash too and that means more money to everybody (well except the consumer lol).

Is it okay to go to a "drive through" car wash. Or is it best to wash your car by hand.

@@emileneslo5695 detailing wise, it’s only ok to use touch less washes. I NEVER use a car wash that has those spinning brushes or those drapes/curtains. Touch less or nothing at all.

“loose”

Yeah that is what I was going to say about him having Sentry mode on will decrease the battery.

if you park your tesla on the street at 20% soc, and it gets -40° overnight, will you still be able to move it in the morning, if sentry mode was left off? Or will she demand to be charged and batteries warmed up?

@@jimhofoss9982 Yes, even if sentry was on it will still drive. The car won’t lock you out from moving until the minimum cell voltage gets extremely low. -40 for prolonged periods will be a problem, but not overnight if that’s a minimum. But you’d want to be plugged in in that weather if possible, at least have a decent SOC.

So essentially it does lose energy

As a Swiss you must really appreaciate the washing of the car at the end...? :-)

I find that sentry mode is a bigger issue than the cold - up to 5% overnight. Where I live is very flat and I haven't driven in mountains due to travel restrictions since I've had the Tesla. I have spent a week in hilly country and I noticed that the range isn't affected that much as long as you use them braking. You get most of the extra you use going uphill back when you go downhill. The only thing to watch out for is if your destination is at the top of the mountain. Then you don't have quite as much range as the car thinks you have. As long as you have enough to get there, the range will increase as you go down the hill on your next journey.

same :P

@@johnmckay1423 Sentry mode is indeed a hog. Never leave Sentry mode ON if you park your car at the airport for a long time and your car is not plugged in !

Right on. Metric is superior. 1km = 1000m 1m = 100cm 1cm = 10mm. But how many " feet " is a " mile ". I bet it's not 1000 hehe.

@@Gielderst it's 5280 and it's the dumbest thing ever. I'm American and we should have been using the metric system for the past 100 years at least... maybe it will happen eventually

@@redplayerya supposedly it’s because we have tons of heavy machinery and tooling and whatnot in customary. But I worked at a fab shop and all we would have had to do is buy a new set of calipers. All our machinery could do both and some were actually metric only and we’d have to convert every measure.

My American school actually uses metric instead of imperial on most things. It's way easier than metric

@@xsforreal same when I was in school a decade ago. The problem is INDUSTRY and ENGINEERING Is all customary

It’s sad that you live there

Don't call it Winterpeg for nothing, she's a little nippy in Fort Mac as well

Totally unrealistic for the prairies. He never addressed the fact that you can begin a trip when it's minus 15 ...but the temperature could drop to minus 30 an hour down the road...what are you gonna do then ? These fanboys of E.V.'s tend to be urbanites living in the urban bubble world because they never factor in that the temperature could drop precipitously on the prairies.

That's right. And the heat pump of the 2021 model is even more efficient. Whether heating or colling is almost instantaneous and it is really power efficient.

@@eljay0 heaters are 100% efficient LOL

Shame the insulation and assembly is so crap where all the heat escapes very fast. Everytime it rains you see tesla's with fogged up windows like some 15 year old car cuz the seals are just crap. Its applauding people keep paying so much for such crap. Tesla should stick to making the drivetrain and partner with a better brand to make the rest.

@@sinephasethe heat pumps he's describing are capable of being more than "100% efficient" because they "pump heat" from the outside of the vehicle to the inside. It's the same thing an AC unit does but in reverse. They likely wouldn't be *much* better than conventional electric heating in weather this cold, but in the vast majority of cases they're able to move significantly more energy than the energy it takes to run them.

@@JonKimbel more than 100% efficient is impossible LOL

A sad existence for sure.

@@wpgspecb I expect that's sarcasm. I'd be very happy if I never saw snow again.

Cagary is a lot different weather wise than Saskatoon

Yes, especially sitting poolside in Palm Springs, California.

I would get out of there fast.

I'm also curious to see a cold start around the -35 range (with a wind chill directly into the grill of the car, wait, does it have a grill?). If it still starts relatively easy with no 'side effects' then I'll start saving for one.

$25k? Seems petty affordable.

Don't worry, as long as government subsidizes EV purchases and production, you're helping others afford EVs.

Horses are the future.

We always have 10 year old Toyota hybrids (avoid gm, chrysler, anything daimler, vag like the plague if you like to own something).

Forcing poor people to pay for my EV is one of my favourite things about my EV. Forcing poor people to pay for my electricity to drive my EV is a rush as well. I can easily afford my EV and the power to drive it.

I don't think I would trust an electric vehicle from one of the big 'previously gas fueled' companies. They have simply tried to retrofit their gas fueled junk and make it "electric". Tesla started from scratch and has built and integrated every design as they went. You might save money in the short term but end up frustrated and broke in the long run.

I hope you don’t have to do any towing in the cold…. Might have to stop a few times a day to charge

So excited !!! I can’t wait! They have halted reservations due to high demand. I had my reservation in right when they announced. So any day now my dealer will contact me. I’m going to be specing out mine as a Lariat with the extended range battery. She is going to be a beast!

thank you for this info will use sentry now :) on my new Y

My IC uses 0 gas sitting for a month. The more I learn about electric cars the less likely I would be to buy one. 4-5 percent a night is a lot when its cold 6 months a year. Current electric cars seem to work the best sitting in a heated garage plugged in not doing anything. 🤷‍♂️

Batterys cant take cold. Thats the main reason.

@@daneekhoff8731 As stated, it has to do with the Sentry security system. Just turn it off if this bothers you. What does 4-5 percent cost you in dollars? Far less than that.

Great request, I’m actually planning to do this, but the dang weather is so warm lately we haven’t been below -15C for like 2 months. (Terrible thing to complain about, hey? Haha).

Thanks! Yes need more SuperChargers, but they’re being built! HW16 in Sask is about to get 4 more SuperChargers (Saskatoon’s just turned on!)

That's amazing Josh, I flew my fiancé from Toronto to Calgary to propose to her! For someone who lives in the UK a drive of that distance is really amazing to me!

How long extra it took to get to Toronto just during charging?

Honestly I would say EVs are better winter vehicles than gas. I live in a small town and almost all my trips stay in town. If I have to drive my truck in winter the engine might just be getting warm right about the time I get to where I'm going. That's really hard on the engine, and uncomfortable for me as I'm riding around cold all the time. In our Tesla the heat is blowing hot before I back out of the driveway, and within 30 seconds the cabin is fairly comfortable. Yes you take a range hit from the heater, but that's really not an issue except on a long drive, and even then its not a huge issue unless you actually do need to drive 170+ miles w/o access to charging.

Also as stated in this video, he was using sentry mode, which accounts for most of his battery loss overnight, so just icing on the cake that there really shouldn't be much overnight battery drain. :)

@@dorvinion But on a long trip the engine will be heated up anyway. Yes, an engine should warmup a few minutes before being driven. Just be glad we have fuel injection. Now you can warm up the car and go inside where it's warm. Those that lived in the carburetor days had to sit IN their car while it warmed up.

@@Anon54387 I remember seeing my friends car refuse to start during some really bad artic winds, apparently his fuel line froze because water vapor got in, his tank was only 1/4 full.

Have you ever walked a block or two when it's 40 degrees below zero Celsius in the wind ?

@@brianclark7412 40- C is also 40 -F interesting fact

@@brianclark7412 good point. I’m Australian, so no. +40C yes, but not -40C.

What a canadian wouldn't do for a can of Oat milk :-)

@@brianclark7412 Or the other way when its 45.C or more and hot north wind and the fire like feel of the Australian sun.

Yes if we hit another -35C night, I’ll do this test again.

They are in countries where are very cold winters because otherwise they would be out of business for the whole winter. In my country they are usually incorporated inside underground mall parking lots where it's warmer anyway.

I believe that was a Touchless car wash, you just drive in and all the robots do the work

I know you made this comment a year ago but it's just so wholesome. I hope everything is well in your life.

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and salty

@@GOATMENTATOR Do you have a lot of problems with snow sitting on the rear window, then when you come home,, going to the trunk , opening it to get your grocery, then when the trunk opens,,, would the snow all falls into the trunk ???

@@TOMMYBOY6969 ...That’s why you first use your trusty Snow ❄️ Brush! 😜

@@TOMMYBOY6969 no, because I drive a rusty 21 year old bmw

I wash the old diesel the moment a cold snap hits, stays clean for awhile. :)

The battery would be a hundred percent dead, but my Astro Van would start right up and drive away. Hahahaha

There is already tons of proof of people trying to charge these EV's in cold temps, they don't charge at all below 10 fahrenheit because the charger is trying and trying to warm the battery to charge it.

@@williamshook982 Well, most people leaving their cars outside in -15 C and under usually have them plugged into block heaters so the comparison isn't exactly equivalent.

@@synnical77 Nope, I live in Colorado and during the winter we can have long stretches at or below 0F. I've never used a block heater and all my ICE vehicles start right up no issues every morning. I used to be a big tesla fan, but the more I thought about it the more I realize just how inconvenient it would be (for me and my usages).

@@up0820 that's not true. I successfully charge mine in -30C or colder (-22F) without issue. 220v, 48A or less.

PS--What wheels and tires do you have on your Model 3?

My tires are Micheline X-Ice xi3, and the wheels are 18” Art Replica 171 Gun Metal

@@SaskTechIdeas Thanks! I just had Michelin X-ice mounted on my 18” Aeros. I’m thinking about leaving them and getting a second set of wheels for summer. Those definitely caught my eye.

If it goes on fire it will burn your house down.

Wow. The EV scam is now being exposed in the states. Ford and GM are pretty much aware of this and are actually running away from it !😀😀😀👏👏👏

also pre 2019 Model 3 was without octavalve which means it was using simple resistance heater which is veeeery inn-efficient. Yes, the loss is much smaller in longer trips but it is still significant due to heating the cabin and battery

@@poolas8ball It takes about 16kw to drive 100km/h and about 2kw to heat the cabin in -15C. With heat pump, it can be half of that. COB factor is not very great when it gets cold. Anyway, as I stated before, relative loss from heating is not that great when cabin heat is stabilized and speed is high. Another example can be driving 60km/h and starting with cold car. Heater then takes 5-6kw and motor takes 6kw.

I assume that preheating could be done while plugged in, as would be the case before leaving for the morning commute when you have a home charger. In that case you would keep that preheating energy for driving. I

@@davesutherland1864 Yes. That is the case if you have home charging or some electric outlet. Seems to be close to impossible for many. Hopefully it’ll change in future

Pretty high loss😂

That's what she said... sorry... had to...

I find this comment amusing. My grandmother Is Norwegian. I could never understand how my dad was fine living in manitoba where it goes for +40C with the humidity to -50C with the windchill. Makes sense now lmao.

@@gambyt5952 ;)

Yep, I'd like to see one big frosted Tesla

Why, we know the loss with sentry mode enabled...

dude lives in sask hes not turning that off haha

If you're from the prairies of Canada you know . I have a 19 Kia Niro hybrid in Winnipeg . This car is the first one in my life that starts easily in our unheated garage at _35c . It doesn't really start , you push the button and the electric motor comes on .

My dad’s Land Rover defender starts at -30C easily after 20 years of use

I like that indoor do it yourself carwash …that’s badass

How much does a Model 3 cost there? In Ontario Canada a Model 3 costs almost 2 Honda Accords. Lol. And don't get me started on the Model Y .... C$80000 out the door for the cheapest one. I can buy two F150s for that. Sad that this planet saving tech is so expensive in Canada. :/

Are they parked outside?? What about battery in cold weather without a garage??

@@edwardlacika3022 in Europe it costs 55-60k Euros. Two Bmw 3 series

@@edwardlacika3022 53 k CAD for the Tesla Model 3 SR+ here, but 5 k less than that because of a tax credit here. Overall cost of ownership is less than a BMW 3 series.

@@attorneyattorney1190 They just park on the streets, because in Oslo having a garage is a luxury. There are like 3 Teslas parked on my street right now at 0 degress c temp.

I've heard worse stories so maybe diff in Tesla's models.

Don't the Tesla's have some sort of heating system to keep the batteries warm? I guess that would just deplete the batteries though, maybe unless it was plugged in, but then again most people would have the car in the garage...wouldn't work with me I don't have a garage, my vehicles sit out in the weather 24/7 would be interesting to have a Tesla just to see how things would do on it being out in the elements 24/7 and having to charge it in the heat of summer and cold of winter.

@@wildbill23c They do. However, I am not completely certain when it activates. I know it will when you tell the navigation to go to a supercharger. I believe running the cabin heater actually warms the battery, as well. Charging the vehicle in any way warms it a little, but not much when it is cold. As for when it is not being driven, I am not sure. The loss appears to slow after a couple of days sitting. Mostly, it is recalibrating range for the fact the the battery / weather is chilly. If it suddenly warmed up significantly, at least some range would come back.

@ΔŞŦ€ŘƗŞΜ 𓂀☜GͥOͣDͫ It still is a good option, you will just have shorter range in severe cold.

Thanks for watching!

@@SaskTechIdeas can you tell us where you got that app?

@B EVs have no problem starting in the cold. ICE do. But, EVs lost half their range, while gas cars lose very little. Or at least you dont notice it.

​@@bmw803ice don't lose that much you don't idle just drive slowly for a minute or so

His name is super...

Yea this is the biggest area that needs improving. Road trips without access to super chargers can be tough in the cold.

Most of that 5% loss is due to Sentry Mode. Turn that off and it would be a very different story.

@@jonathangwynne1917 I thought it was due to heating the batteries

@@1Esteband, heating the batteries takes a little power but nowhere near that much. Sentry Mode is a huge power-suck.