"Starting" a Tesla in -34C Cold Canadian Winter 

If the batteries van manage the distantie. With temperatures below minus zero Celsius the range will drop very much. And when the car is not connected to a charger, the heating proces will effect the radius you can drive.

@@tonv912 I'm pretty sure that the battery packs are in heated compartments. With house power when charging, and minimal power, while driving. I mean the cabin is heated right, the batteries don't need that kind of heat, just above zero... And they are in an enclosed, easily insulated area... SO no big issue here.

LMAO love this comment

Can't wait! I'll nap in the back.

It will migrate to california for the winter lmao

If it fits the car it's good enough 😂😂😂

They’re quite common in Canada for obvious reasons :P

Its good because its cheap and does not need a permit. Also, if you want to remove it, your yard is barely ruined, compared to having to demolish brick walls and a roof.

@@infinitenex8165 Why would you want to remove a garage?

too expensive for a real Garage, that money spent well on a tesla

Yeah. You need the engine to warm the coolant in the block, and then cycle that out and into the heater core. Engines only heat up so fast... still wouldn’t be caught dead with an electric car in the winter... where I live that is

Modern engines have electric coolant heaters, still won't heat up the interior as fast as this Tesla, but the difference is not that big. Luxurious cars often have preheating system that burns fuel to warm up the coolant and heat up the interior when the engine is turned off, so Tesla's heating is good, but nothing we haven't seen already.

most new cars have electric heaters

idle? it takes a 20 mins drive, atleast in my car

@@kaelruland2190 Most new cars? really?

OY MR PRIME MINISTA

You guys live in an actual prison. Id revolt against my government if i were you. But you have no guns to do so. Thats ashame. Never give up your rights.

@@anthonyhewitt9397 bruh

@@anthonyhewitt9397 🤡

@@anthonyhewitt9397 you have no idea do you? We don’t need guns. Let’s face it, you wouldn’t do 💩 with your guns

why would he use fahrenheit?

At -34 the difference is only 4.8 units. But in reality, -34°C and -34°F are the same thing: too damn cold!

Canadians are very nice

The imperial system is used in the us not in Canada, Canadians are cool

yes 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 so many content that came from us is awesome until the part they start using fahrenheit, feet, etc... have no ideia how to measure things with that imperial system hahaha

@@BigSplenda1885 me too

real questions are answered in comments nice

Well why mention something obvious? I mean why would the car not start? There’s no oil. Come on man even my 13 year old brother knows that

@@chrisauriazul2203 Because the title says "starting", and then talks about "warming up" the cabin.

@@chrisauriazul2203 I mean, in a weather that smart phones freeze over and stop working, it is understandable some people may think an electric car would also have problems working...

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂lol dude 😁😁😁😁😁😁😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Whatever keeps the snow off yer caer

Better than my dad's garage, which is actually just some concrete atop a small mound.

Only for Saskatchewan

We call it a tempo shelter usually. Which is the brand name.

that's why I see 95% of the video at 2x, it cut in half the time plus they are totally accessible because the majority of the youtuber talk very slow and put them in 2x it's like hear them talking at normal speed in real life, the only real drawback it's the music, but I can live with this

yes many waffle a bit, sometimes I stop watching when I get the gist of it.

agree

RU-vid has lost its streaming service if this continues like this I'm gonna go to other streaming services as well without adds it's bad enough that we get adds everywhere literally!!

😂😂😂

in t shirt

And cold baths

Uphill both ways

@@nathanlewis42 Its a joke, when you complained as a kid that there was a 1cm of snow on the floor our parents would always try and claim they went to school in arctic temperatures and metres deep of snow.

@@nathanlewis42 that’s the joke

Haha lmfao

Hey dingman i have some questions. I've tried over the entire youtube and cannot find any info about this. I'm thinking to buy a tesla however the freaking design of the townhouses where i live it's so old that they don't have garage. And and extension cord should be at least 30 feets. How much charge do you lose in a single night if left unplugged? I know tesla have a small written policy which mention that if you keep the car in -20 for longer than 24 hours the battery will be damaged and will not cover for the warranty. Also how much you can make with a single charge..? Also my typical driving style is All the time Must be either AC either Heating. never off. I'm a bit claustrophobia and if i don't keep the heating or AC on i feel very weird

@@VaruStanca if you leave it unplugged for one night its going to lose about 2-4 %, if you completty shut down the tesla its going to just lose 0-1 %

@@eurylachos That's it? WoW. That's amazing. I think i will buy one then. I was scared that if outside it's cold overnight will lose like 30-40% of the battery.

hell yeah haha

I live in canada and trust me, that’s beyond anything you experienced

Just hold an ice cube in your hand and imagine it being colder and EVERYWHERE instead

@@victorryan4870 It’s way colder than a ice cube

the temperature in Canada varies a lot, the hottest I've seen was a bit over 40 degree Celsius, and the coldest was -40 degree Celsius and I live just north of Ottawa

@@grantmason3251 I live in quebec

According to an Uber driver I had in Quebec City, who had a model 3, he gets only about 250km in the winter.

Batteries lose 1/2 power at -17c.

It takes the same amount of time if not plugged in. It will use 2 to 3% range to optimise and heat up the systems. New models (from 2021 onwards) don't get affected much since they have heat pumps. Hope this helps.

batteries are heated up to maintain operating temps@@barry1122

​@@martymcfly256Oof 250km thats Bad😬

I love lapland home of my favorite people

Seriously that snow is DRY

crunch ccrunch crunch

@@rickrobitaille8809 That's where my dad is from. He was born in Kemi.

Yep. Closer to 0°C, the snow would make a different sound. At those colder temperatures, the pressure of your weight no longer causes the ice crystals to melt slightly, and the sound they make rubbing against each other is a squeaky crunching sound.

lol In -20 thats even a problem, guess im used to it

@@thehyperactivesloth6824 really ? It just .. freezes ?

TigerGoesRawrr Canadian here, it doesn’t just freeze, the phone just shut down really quick (like 5-10min) if your outside at that cold and using it.

Same here in northern europe

Yeah and it shuts off at ~40c from over heating. Source: My Australian Ass

Makes it so much easier to understand what kind of temperatures they’re talking about. Only a couple countries in the whole world use Fahrenheit....nonsensical system

like the rest of the planet ... only the US and like 4 island countries use farenheit still. More than 150 countries use celsius.

@@cris3740 Also Meters and KM/h is a lot better ...

Everyone uses celsius LOL

Americans think theyre the only country on Earth

And what exactly is "long range"???

​@@Auntiehoney217 It's a trim level for the vehicle. The Long Range version has the largest battery with about 300 miles of EPA range (which is never realistic on any car; so call it like 270 in spring)

Me hahaha

the car doesn't drive if the charger is plugged in.

@@UnboxingTVofficial I assumed some automation will be done to that too. But just caught me worried.

Me too

@@KLiNoTweet me too

No no it’s not

@@fantasio1122 it was just a joke dude

I really wish it were 50 degrees out here rn lol

People who live in Florida do think that 50 Fahrenheit is actually cold which is funny 😂

"°F" lmao

Lol 😂🤣 same

Well....not really

Ummmmm

No. 21'C is my limit >.

The ac on 22 in the night and ill have body pains the next morning

Yeah batterys will be done fast and replacement probably cost more than it's worth

@Qrispy. they discharge quicker so you charge more often ergo more charging cycles so yeah it does affect them

@Qrispy. well not sure whou to trust tesla claims 10% or less per 200k miles some tests claim more like even 7% after 24k miles

@@Karniak91 your would reference your claims so people don't think you're pulling it out of your ass

@@XxHorseshoeXx have some issue with posting response idk maybe due to link

When temperatures drop that low it doesn't feel any colder, it just hurts more being outside

@@patricks.7420 yes, from around -20 Celcius you dont feel a difference. Every small brieze of wind is like knives on your skin

-5c and moist air feel alot colder then dry -30c.

Never felt below 20°C So I'll just keep on wondering how that feels. Haha

Celsius is different than Fahrenheit

As a canadian, i agree. Its nostalgic

Yup. You know its cold when the snow squeaks beneath your feet....

As a fin I can agree with this

Snow will start to squeek under your feet at about 14°f

@Wendeez the snow seams so peaceful. It also changes sounds (more sound being absorbed instead of being reflected) when everything is covered in snow and during a decent snowfall. I love summers too so glad I live in a place that has both seasons.

I have a dog to

@@stickmann7363 you don’t got to hurt my heart like that

@@mrmcnoodle1151 lol why am I getting mentioned?

@@stickmann7363 you know why😑

@@mrmcnoodle1151 Uhhhh, non mon ami?

that’s crazy i just checked this

When it’s packed down and squeaking (around the temperature in this video) when you know it’s time to move somewhere warmer. 😃

Come now. That sound starts at like 0 it doesn’t mean it’s THAT cold

@@bob15479 it starts at around -7 c and is a good indicator that salt is no longer effective on the roads.

@@EmanASMR 0 F is what I refer to so we’re saying the same thing roughly speaking

Love that sound, sounds like home to me in northern Alberta haha.

Why

@@ryanzz1960 because the Tesla is warm and the house ain't

@@prodachoui why wouldnt the house be warm

@@ejss it is but the Tesla is warmer

@@prodachoui ur du,b I live in Canada the house are very warm if u have good heating

*happy dolphin noises

Yeah basically, I hate how dumb we are in the states, why couldn't I have grown up in Canada or something? 😂

you forgot the minus part.. -34 not just 34 lol

Did that test in another video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ei4qiSrPAoI.html

Litium ion batteries have much better performance than lead acid batteries in cold weather. So an electric car will start in far colder weather than a combustion engine car with a lead acid battery.

@@SaskTechIdeas I’m in Sudbury where despite the weather changing we can still get a few days of minus 40 with the wind chill. How does this affect the mileage (Kiloage??????) under cold weather conditions. I’m to,d by 1/2 but …. I’m looking at a Model X as I have two Old English Mastiffs. Seems I’m shopping so over than later with JT and his carbon tax putting the cost of fuel at $1.56 a litre. F150 are thirsty beasts

​@@glynnmcneill1875 That would be why his I-phone froze up and died in just a few minutes, then. Lithium being better in cold weather. I love all the excuses I hear out of the naive green crowd. What you just witnessed in this Tesla ad is only a battery that doesn't have to crank a frozen engine with oil the consistency of molassis in it. Sure it's going to move the car, and run a heater, but when it does, you're not going to get much range in those temperatures. I thought the video was interesting how there was NOT ONE BIT of any frost on his windows, on a vehicle left out in an open-sided tent supposedly all night. The interior temperature was -24, when the outside temperature was -34. We're not talking wind chill here, it's actual temperatures, so if the car was left out all night, the interior temperature should be closer to the outside temperature, if it was like that all night. Pretty much suspect this vehicle did not get a proper cold soak. That's an engineering term for amount of time the vehicle sits in the cold conditions, with nothing running. I'm retired from automotive engineering, I've spent some time in cold room facilities, evaluating various defrosting and heating systems. Some of the things I'm seeing in this video just don't add up. So be careful you don't drink too much of the kool-aid in it. Your eyes maybe are being deceived. (perhaps not intentionally, but deceived in any event)

@@rayrussell6258 take a deep breath it's all going to be alright

it was plugged in...

Unfortunately he left it plugged into the grid. Would have been nice to see how his range went down if the warm up load had been put on the battery.

@@artsmith103 probably would have lost a good 20%

@@artsmith103 I change my mind. 10%

@@selfishteammate definitely, heat takes lots of energy so it wouldnt be surprising if heating a car by 40 degrees wouldnt be energy efficent lol

Tesla cars won’t shift into drive while they are plugged in.

I just figured he forgot to film that.

Ha yea, I edited it out not realizing how it looked haha

I don't have a Tesla. We have an MG5 and a Renault Zoe. It will be as fast as when connected to the charger if you don't have ECO mode enabled in your car. You will consume a few percent extra from the battery the first 10 minutes after you start to drive. The best thing is to warm it up while connected to the charger. It will warm the battery at the same time, giving you a little extra km in range.

It doesn’t make a difference from my experience as a Model S driver since 2014 and a Model 3 driver since they launched. Then again we don’t often hit more than -20 where I live (Norway). I doubt the extra degrees make that much of a difference. Usually takes the Model 3 four minutes to warm up to 20-something degrees.

Who goes to the mall in -34C weather

It's maths. the power draw must be insane. Since this isn't a combustion , the heat is generated from the electricity it pulls, not the thermic engine. So... it's cool, but un sustainable unless people beleive in magic energy/electricity

@@jamie123b Didn't stop me from anything back when we had -35C. I would still do necessary shopping, walk the dog etc. You just have to dress properly to not freeze. You get fantastic nature photos when it's below -20C.

how many mile it can go

This is how the future looks like

@@Pa8 With the heat pump, ima do some quick maths. In complete extreme cold weather, you lose 40% of your battery, But since -34 is not considered extreme cold, we'll make a good guess and say about 30%. Considering he's using a Model 3 long-range, we'll use the updated Tesla range which is 568km (353miles) And since you shouldn't be charging it up to 100% capacity, we'll drop it down 20% so that battery degradation is at it's lowest, which gives us 455 km of range to use (283 miles). Then that gives us the opportunity to subtract 30% due to cold weather which leaves us at 319 km of range remaining ( 200 miles). Now assuming you are driving slower and more cautious acceleration, you can probably squeeze an extra 20km of range in the total (12 miles)

But keep in mind, once your battery is warmed up, you can charge the car again, and you will retain that high range for a much longer period of time.

@The Monster Under Your Bed Well the heat pump is useful for our Canadian springs and falls though as that is the same as most others deal with in winter lol.

Unplugged using the heater it will use around a 1/3 of the battery over night it really depends how long it has to be in for and what the outside temperature is comparable to the temperature you have set for inside.

I mean when it's this cold you plug in normal combustion cars also or ur battery will freeze

@@ddtrjared2596 my truck has started for 5 years with -30 temps without plugging it in. I'd plug a diesel in though

@@ddtrjared2596 Not at minus 30. It takes more than minus 40 to do that.

@@LawfullSpook OK. But I ment from scratch. Meaning the car has been sitting all night getting cold, and you start heating it in the morning.

I was thinking that too but even if you only have half of the range (which is pretty extreme) you'll have 150+ milles. That's more than enough for mostly everyone I'd say.

In the absolute worst conditions, you can lose up to 40% of a 500km battery... but I’m really curious to see how the new Model 3 with heat pump and double-paned glass performs in the extreme cold!

Also from Winnipeg over here. Because the office has intermittent power for block heaters, is that enough to keep the battery warm or are you losing range then too? I’ve been told it’s not steady enough to top things up.

@@RandomInsano2 I don’t think it has a function to keep the battery warm. It doesn’t need to be kept warm it simply has less horsepower till it warms up. This is my understanding.

I owned a model s and it definitely kept the battery at a certain temp. In the cold I lost range due to battery heater coming on. So a 110/120v outlet would offset those losses.

I like those questions muhahaha

because the car was never -30, its burning its own heat all night long to keep battery probably 10C+ and thus theres always warm fluid aplenty, and copper only conducts better when cold so meh. nothing of note other than the battery dying fast as heck off a charger

The Tesla doesn't heat the battery all the time when it is plugged in. While charging, the battery will be heated by the waste heat it produces itself, in extreme situations it will heat the battery with additional energy. But when the charging is done there is no heating until you drive off, and that also only in extreme conditions. Of course it will also start to heat when you start the pre-heat program and even then just in extreme situations (not saying -35C is not extreme). When the battery gets to cold the board computer will reduce range and limit power draw (reduced acceleration), showing as a partially blue battery with a snowflake. The range is not lost though, the battery will be warmed up during the drive and the range and the power will gradually come back. This is just all to prevent from damaging the battery thanks to the battery management system. Here is a link so you know what i mean by "partially blue battery" and "snowflake": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qDm5zIfr3qI.html

@@d1oftwins The battery needs to be at certain temperature when charging, if the temperature is too low, it will be damaged by charging. Most likely the battery is somewhat insulated, and heat is produced when it is charged or when the car is driving. So that is why they say, "the battery doesn't need heating". Well that is one way to say it, it doesn't need heating, because the battery itself is a resistive heating element that heats up when you charge or drain it. About what is "extreme", it depends from who you ask from. For example for me living in northern Finland, -34 C is not extreme, it is common occurence about every winter. It is cold, but it is normal for this climate area. +40 C warm weather is extreme for me. That means, a car should be chosen so that it fits the environment where it is going to be used at. If you live in cold climate, you should choose a car which for -34 C is "normal", a car that is designed to handle those temperatures.

@@d1oftwins Some of the range is lost while driving in cold, due to the fact that electric car uses the same battery to heat up the car, that is used for driving, and when electric motors and driveline are very efficient, there is very little waste heat to warm up the cabin. While in an ICE car, the energy for heating, is waste heat from the engine. This is key difference between electric and ICE car, when driving in cold. Now it depends how the heating is done, that how much range is lost. If it is done with a heat pump like in some electric cars, the range loss is lower than with resistive heating.

@@d1oftwins Battery temp is self regulating & constant.

1/2

Exactly ! Probably half is gone !

Yes but that was a Tesla commercial,!

I have a Ford F -150 5.0 liter in Canada - gas mileage sucks in the winter too

*HOW DARE YOU!*

That’s actually a thing, the vapour from your breath can go up to your eye lashes then they want to stick to each other haha.

@@jonasplett172 yeah the eyes are just fine but eyelashes not so much lol

He's probably used to it

Its not really that bad if there is no wind. Just remember to breath through your nose and not open your mouth to breath though lol.

With enough layers it’s not unbearable. I don’t care what anyone thinks though, -30 is too cold for this guy to do stuff outside. (We usually get a few weeks of that a winter)

That’s what I am thinking is happening to people. I think the majority of people complaining are those who bought a EV and have it parked outside without the ability to charge at night in -ve temps. I have had mine in northeast with zero issues. But I have mine charging each night in the winter 3 years 77k miles so far

A LOT colder

"My phones starting to freeze" Well that's a first

My first thoughts about this video were that he missed his opportunity to go colder. ;)

I mean I live in Saskatchewan and it gets freaking cold

Further up north you get, the colder it gets. I guess im lucky im in a more southern part of ontario

The range will drop between 40-65%.

The car keeps its own battery warm enough to not be damaged at all times, and warms itself even further if it knows you are about to be charging it or when you start charging. Once it's warm it charges just as fast as normal. Also I've not seen anyone report 65% range loss in winter, that's a bit extreme. Worst I've seen people say is ~40%, and much less in warmer climates.

The heater while driving never stops. Wind shear... it's -60 when he drives

@@jessegeerts5043 yikes..

Wow

Bhaaha.. but we have clothes / houses to be able to handle the weather. I live in Ottawa, Canada where temperatures reach -40°C in the middle of winter and +40°C in summer. 2 years ago we were colder than the artic.

I can go from -40C here in the winter and then +35C in the summer. We need a lot of clothes here.....lol

He is from south India where temperature barely goes below 15° C . In North(Delhi) the temperature is 3° C . And -10 to -20 ° C when moving far north in india

@@mayanksharma7952 thanks to all the pollution, it's always summer in delhi and gurgaon

@@KurtQuad -54c at my house this last winter, and still had to go to work.

Funny how this subject was skipped over. I noticed it was still charging when he got inside! It showed 3:42 to full charge! This makes no sense based on his video! I smell a rat!

Battery life isn't a problem, a new one from Tesla is Only $20k.

@@sptrader6316 good point wasn’t thinking!

@@bubbafatas2588 The car lights dont show when its charging. U only know its charging when u check the phone or the screen. We used to keep ours charging overnight during the winter so it would warm up for the commute, but then we realized even in the winters, it dont matter that much. My mom can just charge it at her work since its free, and it can still startup decently overnight. Better for the battery too apparently.

LMFAO !!! @@sptrader6316

Exactly what I was thinking

Is this really a fair assessment? The heater in the car is drawing energy from the house to get warmed up. That's the equivalent of having a block heater on a gas or diesel engine plugged in. Maybe even equivalent to leaving a diesel or gas car idling pulling fuel from an external fuel tank. The real test would be - side by side - a gas car and electric car with no external connection. Fuel up the gas car, charge up the electric car and cold start them and compare the range and time to drive away and warm to even 15 C in the cabin including defrosting the windows. I'm not convinced.

@@oldhardrock2542 by the time the electric car got that hot it would drain alot of battery power

Auto start?

When its not plugged in, the battery drain is faster only when it actually drains I think. The car automatically does the math for you, and figures out the most optimal heat for your battery while losing the least power.

If the car is plugged in, hard to see how you can lose range 😂

But of course not a single Tesla owner is going to say Anything remotely negative about the over rated Tesla, try to start it at -34 c without hacer it plugged all night

@@tudopatroi You either lose energy because the batteries can't hold as much charge in the cold, or you lose energy because the batteries are consuming power keeping themselves warm. Of course if you never unplug it, the question of range is moot.

@@mz_nobs4589 Well, ICE vehicles can have major issues starting in this kind of cold

@@Draxel And it is usually the battery that is the problem

There are great electric vehicle incentives in Norway, I'm sure these cars are selling like hotcakes:)

@@darmou Omg yes! We have more Teslas per capita than any other country in the world, and Electric Cars now stand for about 40% of all new vehicles bought.

@@darmou that's what you get when you don't have to spend your money on saving the crappy EU countries with billions of euros. You have money to give wealthy people new toys.

@@honesty_-no9he ik, and the oil company says that they are the greenest oil company in the world. I belive that, but that aint enough. When the goverment revealed the climate plan they said that they will only sell fully electric cars from 2023, and a bunch of other good stuff. But they didnt mention oil. It makes me furious that the country that started the work against climate change now doesnt want to stop making oil! I hope i become primeminister one day so I can make Norway the greenest in the world!

I could have done this in < 1 minute :) But he added just enough "entertainment" value to his

Russians: -40° here hold my frozen beer

@@xGARIDx US with -40c and 40c tempatures: hold my pisswater.

@@xGARIDx That's why rusians drink vodka. Doesnt freeze as easily

Being born in midwest America it can get below -40 in winter don't know what you saying lmao

@@arvil4202 It was a reference to everybody using Celsius nowadays. ;)

Well for me in Germany you get this amount of crunch at around -7 C

I don't get it. Sounds like normal snow to me

@@Intrspace I do not know where you live and what the temperatures are there, but in my experience, snow that sounds like that is a surefire sign that it is REALLY cold, and not just a few degrees below freezing. Last time I heard it in person, it was around -20 C or so.

@@Astrophysikus -20C is -7F so if 10F is normal for his winters then you’re gonna get that crunching sound on a normal basis

Snow here in western Canada usually melts silently as you drive over it. It does get crunchy when we get freak -20 celsius for a week or two each winter.

Coldest I ever had here was -20ish. Normal in winter is -10.

@@BonezyBoy Nope, there are these on iceland too

@@BonezyBoy Iceland is the most volcanically active place on earth.

@@Dingusdoofus yep I’m a dumb fuck sorry, I will leave now

Why not using garages there?

Tent shelters are cheaper, and can be used at rental homes that don't have garages. Saves you from having to sweep off the car every time it snows. Commonly used in Canada during the winter season, then stored away in the warmer months, as most towns and cities do not permit their use year round. 🇨🇦

@@mfibonacci5275 I heard it's not recommended to charge them in an attachedi garage due to fire concerns. Not sure if it's a real deal though

-18°c in South Africa, it was not fun 😐

And what is the hottest you have ever experienced? In Hungary we had +39°C and for me it was hard to bear.

I also lose the will to live here in Connecticut when it’s 30°C with 65% humidity.

OMG! -1C or -1F?? Either way you'd never survive a Canadian winter. LoL!

about 30 minutes worth...so half enough for your average commute.

Warming up doesn't take that much energy. Especially when it's on for only 4 minutes.

@@izybit A lot of energy can be consumed in 4 minutes! From - 34 to +20 in that short time got to drain some energy from the battery! And it has to maintain that temperature during the drive to..

@@izybit Not even a 2kW heater could warm up a car that fast..

@@sundqvistd No, it can't. The heating system isn't sized for an entire house.

krashville hello fellow Saskatoonian! Haha. If you ever wanna go for a drive, I’d be happy to take you.

I am from Saskatoon as well.

@@SaskTechIdeas I'm from Ontario maybe I should become a Saskatoonian with such a nice people in it! Cheers! 😉✌️

Here in Amsterdam I have over 10 neighbours with Tesla's in their driveways. I'm from 'Toon also by the way. The pictures this week remind me of my childhood.

Fr

uuhhh no

You can remove your account from RU-vid. That’s how stupid what you just said is.

@@TSVPLIN that's the joke

@@craiggussi4779 thats the joke.

@@JanRademan oop sorry

lame joke

And that 50 mile range you get in this weather is all so worth it !

@@RFSpartan 50 mile?? Mileage takes a hit from the cold but nothing all that noticeable.

Yes up to 40% of a charge

while it's plugged into the wall? no. On the road? Yep

It severely impacts the range

Katos terve

@@Simon-ew7yi and thats without two snowmobiles in a trailer in which you can go down to 25% of the original range

Canopy. A garage is a structure.

some call it home sweet home

@@BillyBob-fd5ht some call it a car hole

I would usually refer to it as a carport, but I know thats not technically a carport (carports have open sides, only covered on top) but I think it gets the meaning across. Its definitely a canopy or car shelter or something like that

And they still manage to get stuck.

Idk what America your talking about but I live near New York (1.5 hours north of the city) and -20 celcious is common during January nights. We get shit ton of snow in the northeast. The snow in this video is a regular December to us and I drive a small sedan with regular tires all winter long

@@ELECTRICINVEST I would never trust summer tires on ice. Unless you like driving under 30 km/h all the time.

@@foufoufun You should always drive with caution in the snow regardless of how good your tires are.

@@ELECTRICINVEST And you shouldn't drive in winter with summer tires.

Well given you only really need a cover or "tent" for the car in winter or cold seasons, why build an entire garage when a 200$ tent that takes 2 hours to assemble works fine. Especially if it's only up half the year

@@sahzhree7757 exactly haha

The cars camera/radar system cant determine where the lanes are/sometimes can't read street signs if they are iced over. In any case, you should be under control of the car in these conditions. If you break traction, you need to be able to correct.

@ebulating Ya I’m really wondering how this would work, since Elon is aiming for robotaxis and people not even really owning Tesla’s, but just having fully autonomous vehicles driving people around. Great in California maybe. I just wonder about Snowy conditions. Maybe the AI will just get really good and won’t need to see the lines in the road. Is the autopilot basically non-operational when there is snow covering the road?

I think if the car doesn't detect any sign/lane/road it won't let you enable self driving

Some snowstorms are so terrible that you can't even see where to go as a human driver. It will never be possible for it to make 100% of all trips. Only 99.9...%

@The Monster Under Your Bed The Model Y has a heated radar, but otherwise it's a common that even TACC stops working because of ice on the front radar of Model 3. But yeah, ultimately FSD should be able to navigate most things better than humans. But I'd still argue it won't make every single trip, simply because not every trip is possible. I'm talking about very extreme natural disaster scenarios though, where humans have no chance either.

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Ha yeah. Technically the iPhone didn’t go to zero, it just got so cold it lost its ability to provide power. Once it warmed up the iPhone turned on again, with lots of battery left.

@@SaskTechIdeas Thanks for clarifying. I know some days it can get so cold that a phone screen lags, it's like the screen is trying to catch up when you were trying to do 15seconds ago. 🥶🥶 Stay warm my Canadian fellow! Hello from Ontario!

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Most cars need to have that block heater hooked up with a good battery to fire up at -34°C. Sooo really not a difference.

What happens to the battery when it is left in that temperature with no connection to the grid? I think your battery will be Screwed

@@kenelliott6897 A simple L1 120 volt connection would be enough to keep it charged.... let alone a proper 220 volt L2 AC charger which most house owners should install

@@tomstdenis What happens in a power outage?

So... same as a gasoline-powered car except for pressing the START button.

Ya agreed. I thought he was going to talk about the technical aspects of starting in that weather

Well when your breath freezes on the windshield it gets kinda hard to see

@@notlikely4468 lol fair point

And leaving his Tesla plugged in to maintain his battery at a reasonable operating temperature is just as fair.

Never had any starting problems in the cold. People that live in these climates know what it's like and have been dealing with it for decades. I use synthetic engine oil so no problem getting the I.C.E. started.

I drive diesel trucks. People always ask me what the chord dangling from the front is.

major reason why the Germans were literally just completely halted come winter 1941 in Russia

Not necessary

That wasn't the point of the video.

@@Charlesbjtown No, I gleaned from the video that a Tesla can start and be warm in a matter of minutes in cold temperatures. 2:02 He mentions his phone is beginning to react to the temperature. 2:24 "It is so cold my iPhone shut down..." 3:24 "Long range, Model 3, all wheel drive...", he is describing the vehicle in a ideal climate, -34° C (-29° F) is cold and I'm from Ontario. He has proven that a Tesla will start in sub-arctic temperatures. Where does he live, Regina? Prince Albert? Is there a charging station near his place of employment?

Imagine this. -35 in a tesla, stuck on the highway or in the ditch for your stated amount of time. How long can you sit there watching your battery die knowing if you don't get rescued your going to die.

@@matkurcher9469 Same thing can happen if you're low on fuel with ICE vehicle. You get into a ditch and you're low on fuel and once it runs out, your car starts to get cold pretty fast after it 🤷‍♂️ You can kinda estimate how much your vehicle burns fuel while idling by multiplying it's engine size (or liters of displacement how ever you say it in english) by 0.6 and you get how much fuel your car roughly burns per 1 hour. Let's say you own a 5.7 V8 hemi (like I do 😅) and you have full tank. Say it's 70 liters. The vehicle will burn about 3,4 liters of fuel each hour to keep you warm. That means, with 100% full tank, you have just over 20 hours worth of warmth. So yeah, doesn't sound too great either. Now am I defending e-vehicles in some way? No, absolutely not. I enjoy the roar of my hemi too much, or the quickness of my tuned Golf GTI mk5 (even tho both are slow compared to quick Tesla's). But just something to think about. ICE vehicles can't run forever either unless they have some sorta energy and yes it's easier to get fuel from outside sources than it is to draw a 100 kilometer long cable to get your e-car recharged, but if nobody is coming to your rescue, both have their "timers" ticking down.

In fact, Tesla might win this race. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i3E0t0kGeug.htmlsi=8o6rU2dbXeGZ1eHF

as the car heats up the battery gains back the energy that’s lost from the cold weather, so range in the cold isn’t an issue

@@Clavinohou Not accurate at all. Actual cold weather range tests have shown the model 3 struggles to make 200 km's in cold weather (averaging 150-180 km's), meaning you absolutely couldn't make Regina from Saskatoon. Beyond that, model 3's have shown ranges anywhere from 250-500 km's on a full charge in a warm climate. Meaning you may struggle to make it the 263 km's even in warm weather.

@@robertcampbell8070 Really, i havent heard much about this, and i have no idea where regina or saskatoon is

@@Clavinohou They're in Saskatchewan, Canada.

@@robertcampbell8070 it’s not like the range will just be some random value between 250 and 500. You can estimate it’s exact range by knowing how old the battery is.

I live in the colder part of Australia and in winter in my area it can be -3.C and that feels cold to me, record low once was -7.C. that is overnight minimums. daytime on a bad cold day can be 6 ish. House is cold as a fridge in the morning but I still wear shorts.

Just fine.

@Simon Bolduc I'm sure your civic just has a bad battery. Batteries are designed to start cars in cold weather, if the weather affects your battery to the point where you can't start the car that means you need to change it.

A guy I know has a model 3 and when we get deep into the winter with temperatures around -30 Celsius he says the range drops significantly. For me this is the biggest reason why I haven’t bought an electric car. In the winter I need to be able to drive 4 hours in -30 and have a car that can reliable idle for along time when the highway gets closed. Just this past weekend in BC highway 93 basically shut down. When I drove through the next day I saw 4 Tesla on the side of the road because they ran out of juice and needed to be towed. For city driving I think electric cars are great but any cold long mountain roads are a no go.

@@theredbrick3249 good ol 93

Mathew Milne... more importantly, I wonder how the cold effects the overall life-span of the battery itself... I have heard Tesla's normally need their batteries replaced 8 to 10 years which isn't good when you consider the batteries cost $7000 to $15000.

@@petemclovins9166 Ah, in 8 to 10 years you'll get much better batteries for cheaper. And the old one will still be good for a DIY project or a huge grid battery somewhere.

i agree!! what you describe is more typical of what actually happens in saskatoon

The infrastructure is coming where you can charge your car on the street. May take a decade or two, but it is coming.

Exactly. That's the part they don't tell you about when they flog these EVs. You think Al Gore or Greta worry about parking?

@@PappyGunn wtf are talking about... have you seen the size of the SUV's those two get chauffeured around in? Of course they have to worry about parking.

@@Zoyx and how will this new infrastructure be powered? Coal powered electric plants? nuclear powered ones? How will the current electric grid accommodate all this needed power to charge the EVs?

Big question is does the range get effected by the cold, and running the heaters like that?

@@leftcoaster67 That's the real question here, I don't think anyone's thinking an electric car won't work, it's that the range is compromised

@@leftcoaster67 I've heard that's the main issue. They have a hard time maintaining heat

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Yes that’s true - but this is how we live day to day. In winter, we come home, and plug it in. If parked somewhere else for the day, the time to heat up is the same.

@@SaskTechIdeas Yeah but your viewers might not know about that. Plus having the interior heat is good and all but for the longevity of the battery and range consumption it's a different story.