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LeBlond Lathe Restoration - Part 18: Setting up and Fine Tuning a Metal Lathe 

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org
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With the restoration complete, the final thing to do on the LeBlond lathe is to get it set up properly to take any taper out of the cut as well as lining up the tailstock. We will go through this process for you in this video - steps that need to be performed on any lathe, even a brand new one!
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@calvinculpalt
@calvinculpalt 21 день назад
I forgot how much you've changed! I love my leblond lathe.
@pauayelo3024
@pauayelo3024 Год назад
Man these videos are pure gold.
@tpobrienjr
@tpobrienjr 7 лет назад
This is great! Thanks to Keith for demonstrating the tuneup. Not my line of work, but it is great to watch an expert tune a production machine like a race car.
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 7 лет назад
The grand old lady has been given the makeover she deserves.
@jamesrobinson7108
@jamesrobinson7108 7 лет назад
just like getting a new car you have to learn and remember where every thing is, so it becomes second nature to you. it took a long time to get to this point thanks for bring us along for the ride.
@JeffHeathTheVintageWorkshop
@JeffHeathTheVintageWorkshop 7 лет назад
Keith you did a really great job of explaining the entire process. Best video I've seen on the process.
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 7 лет назад
Another great piece of American engineering restored to use; it should be good to go for another 50-60 years or so with proper TLC and maintenance. :)
@weshowe51
@weshowe51 7 лет назад
This is useful and timely for me. I just leveled a new lathe yesterday, haven't turned any chips yet or even tried the tailstock alignment. Much to work on here. TYVM for this.
@weshowe51
@weshowe51 7 лет назад
Possibly. Thanks for asking. I did get a new camera, but I did not have it when I moved the lathe in and leveled it. I have a youtube channel, but no machining on it. I expect to change that, but I'm not as smooth a talker as the two Keiths or Adam or Tom. But I intend to put at least some content up.
@leoashrae4199
@leoashrae4199 7 лет назад
Take care when using this tailstock alinement method. The Nebel I ran at Kennedy Van Saun had a center-taper that was not concentric with the tailstock spindle OD. Maybe an "off-center" center is something unique to very large lathes (the Nebel had a 32" swing and 36' (yes, feet) between centers, but we used a similar method to line it up. One of the tool-room guys made up a 1" cylindrical test bar with a #5 taper on the other end. Set up was simple: put the test-bar "taper" in the tailstock spindle, crank it out to the 3" mark (I'm not sure why 3" was significant, but that was the procedure), turn a piece of stock to as close as 1" as the old Nebel could get it, and run your dial indicator over the point where they meet. This worked great, and there are no issues of concentricity with the tailstock spindle. I suppose the only problem would be turning the end of an old super-hard Armstrong dead-center to 1", but I'm fairly certain the Nebel had a #5 Morris taper in the headstock (and we had a tool post grinder). That would make the job pretty simple.
@SuperKingslaw
@SuperKingslaw 7 лет назад
Thanks Keith! Great Video. I am just now getting into working metal with at little Mini Lathe. I am sure all of your comments are relevant even for a MUCH smaller machine. Looking forward to more great videos!
@vajake1
@vajake1 7 лет назад
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have been wondering for years how to test my tailstock! This will be such a big help to me! Thanks Keith!
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi 7 лет назад
Good job on the clean up/ restore looks like you got a winner sounds real smooth and quite still like to see the plainer matcher run with all knives running at full operation all that work done and no joy to see it do what it was made to do really let down
@cmonster6
@cmonster6 7 лет назад
probably one of the most informative videos you've done big guy,thanks
@deehaynes4269
@deehaynes4269 7 лет назад
!!!!EXCELLENT!!! Now I'm going to do the same thing with my little 7 incher.
@danisagladys
@danisagladys 4 года назад
at last an American lathe!! Congrat!
@chuckhaynes6458
@chuckhaynes6458 7 лет назад
What a sweet lathe. You just can't beat the older machines. I can't wait for your next one to get the "Treatment".
@martymorse8967
@martymorse8967 7 лет назад
Congratulations! Thanks for showing your work on this lathe, I've learned a lot!
@steveorainvilleable
@steveorainvilleable 7 лет назад
Thank you so mich Keith! When i get home tonight i will be using the methods you learned and showed us to level my old worn lathe. excited to see the results!
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 7 лет назад
This video has some really good info, the way you line up the tailstock and the racking of the bed, I had no idea, thanks.
@literoadie3502
@literoadie3502 7 лет назад
Great video, learnt a lot! This sort of thing prepares me for the day I get my own lathe. I love the tail-stock alignment method!
@ChrisFiggatt
@ChrisFiggatt 7 лет назад
Excellent video! This information will be extremely useful for a lot of us home shop machinists! Thank you for sharing!
@billdlv
@billdlv 7 лет назад
Nice job Keith, I would not have thought the machine was that sensitive to leveling. I also liked the way you checked the tail stock alignment I am going to have to compare it on the shop machine to using a alignment bar, which was the way I did it originally.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 7 лет назад
You have to remember, I was using a very sensitive level - 0.0005" per foot - when making the fine adjustments. You probably would not have even been able to see those difference with my regular machinist level (0.005" per foot).
@joetiller1031
@joetiller1031 7 лет назад
Great video Keith, good looking lathe, you did a great job on it.
@andymandyandsheba4571
@andymandyandsheba4571 7 лет назад
fantastic to see it up and running keith
@cuttingtooldesigner
@cuttingtooldesigner 7 лет назад
Great video Keith. I'll refer back to this when I get my lathe up and going.
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 7 лет назад
well i learned something today. i've been running lathes for over 30yrs and i also worked as a machine repairman ,but i never saw either one of your alignment techniques . i will file them both under things to remember. thanks keith
@houseofbrokendobbsthings5537
@houseofbrokendobbsthings5537 7 лет назад
Excellent Keith - I have a Harrison to tune in and this will be invaluable. Please convey my thanks as well to Mr. KIng for being a paragon of knowledge.
@VinceSaluto1
@VinceSaluto1 7 лет назад
That's a great tip about the tailstock alignment thanks Keith.
@grahamsengineering.2532
@grahamsengineering.2532 7 лет назад
Hey Keith great vid as usual. Love the tailstock alignment procedure, like you I was in the same mind trying to align the centres or machining a test piece between centres. This method speeds up the process. Cheers from Down Under.
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 7 лет назад
This a great plan to check alignment. Thanks for demonstrating it.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 7 лет назад
Keith, it's exciting to see old machines coming to life again. I know what you mean about being used to how another machine works. It's muscle memory. You don't have to.think of what you are doing, just automatically reach and make it happen. It will be interesting when you get the marathon lathe running, that is yet another group of controls with a different feel.
@ScrewDriverxxx
@ScrewDriverxxx 7 лет назад
That's a really neat way to check tailstock alignment. I'm going to try it on my old Colchester. Many thanks! Steve
@JunkMikesWorld
@JunkMikesWorld 7 лет назад
Very useful information Keith! Thanks!
@11zekim
@11zekim 7 лет назад
Great tips, that tailstock alignment trick is sweet. On my clunker, the tailstock wore faster at the business end; presumably that sees more chips and grit on the ways. So besides being low, mine also nosed down. I needed about 3 thou more shim under the nose than at the heel.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 7 лет назад
Sounds like you need some good wipers under the tailstock to keep that junk out too!
@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738
@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738 7 лет назад
Well done Keith, I enjoyed this content.
@jumpmaster15k
@jumpmaster15k 7 лет назад
Great series. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
@wnebergall
@wnebergall 7 лет назад
thanks Keith this formation will be very helpful on my old Logan lathe
@pauljones3866
@pauljones3866 7 лет назад
Thank you for sharing an alternative way to check tailstock alignment practiced by Richard King. I plan to try this for technique with my production chuck.
@johnferguson7235
@johnferguson7235 7 лет назад
THUMBS UP Keith. I learned a thing or two or even three. Thanks for posting. Since you aren't making parts for a moon rocket or a Swiss watch, the LeBlond looks like it can still do a lot of useful work. It was a good buy.
@shopdave7489
@shopdave7489 7 лет назад
Thanks for the good info on adjustment and aligning.
@johngalt9262
@johngalt9262 7 лет назад
cool, more things to do this weekend.
@handordabok
@handordabok 7 лет назад
I have the same issue with a tailstock on my town and Woodhouse lathe. But only by leveling the ways the tailstock came close to the right height. Also thanks for the videos!
@efremkiel8798
@efremkiel8798 7 лет назад
very informative video. must be such a proud feeling to finaly be turning on this machine :)
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 7 лет назад
Excellent discussion/instruction
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 7 лет назад
Very interesting. Definitely a good skill to have. That is being able to properly check the ways.
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 7 лет назад
I had no idea...... Thanks for the education, Keith.
@meduffer
@meduffer 7 лет назад
That was great Keith. Thanks very much!
@danhale4926
@danhale4926 7 лет назад
Outstanding video as always Mr. Keith! Let the beard grow!
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 7 лет назад
Great video & tips. Thanks for sharing.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 7 лет назад
That is funny that the tailstock alignment method I suggested in the video last week was the same one Richard taught. Maybe great minds think alike. LOL I would suggest not setting your tailstock high by this method though as since the way you twisted your bed that end of the lathe is extra high now so as you move the tailstock out it would actually be coming up even more. I would set it 0 or maybe .001 low so that when you are backed out to a normal tailstock use length you won't end up being .005 or more high.
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch 7 лет назад
And if you have a benchtop or hobby lathe, the wear factor of a light tail stock is not an issue - rigidity is. Set it low so that it will be correct when under load.
@infoanorexic
@infoanorexic 7 лет назад
In my experience ... the likely wear factor on what I would call a "midget" lathe would actually be in the headstock bearing, especially if it uses bronze bushings. Without the weight of a heavier chuck to counter it, the wear would allow the work to climb the tool under load and put the tool under center. I suspect that mine might have also been having some flex in the spindle itself. I never could get a smooth cut out of that one.
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 7 лет назад
Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ...............lol
@Patriot1776
@Patriot1776 7 лет назад
@bebloc02 On the concerns you have with aligning the tailstock as Keith did here: If you've got a steady-rest for your lathe, what about possibly using a long piece of stock that will take the tailstock out to full-length, and using the steady-rest for turning the end of the stock down for then alignment checking with the tailstock, so that bed-twist you've introduced is already accounted for when you leave the tailstock .001-.002 thou high? Is the problem here that when turning between centers close to the chuck, the tailstock will be off-kilter again?
@paulhatch7759
@paulhatch7759 7 лет назад
great video. i am looking for a lathe so your vids are very helpful
@dananelson3534
@dananelson3534 7 лет назад
Great video Keith, very educational. Once you learn the science, it becomes an art, or trade. Funny how that's not considered a profession. Thanks for sharing.
@charlesarthur1014
@charlesarthur1014 6 лет назад
Wonderful lathe and video.
@greasemonkey5216
@greasemonkey5216 7 лет назад
Another great vid for us very newbes Thanks Keith
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 7 лет назад
Thanks Keith. Very good info
@williampugh6699
@williampugh6699 5 лет назад
Nice explanation of how to level tools.
@mxman69
@mxman69 7 лет назад
If anyone is wanting to follow another lathe restoration series. I have just started one on my channel of an old Porter McLeod lathe. The videos may not be as well done as Keiths but it's only the start.
@molescombe
@molescombe 7 лет назад
Thanks for a very useful & informative video. Will use these methods on my Myford ML7.
@austinwagoncompany
@austinwagoncompany 7 лет назад
Great video Keith! Having just set up my machine in its spot, this couldn't have come at a better time, it's a little longer than yours at 11'. I wouldn't have thought some twist would be a good thing. (thumbs up!)
@frankmuller5649
@frankmuller5649 7 лет назад
Very nice instructions (refresher) on lathe setup... I had not guessed it to be that sensible... 8th of a turn... or even a 16th... wow... but you are getting there. Can hardly wait to see you turn some bigger stuff for the museum... you are entering the big leagues now... competing (in the friendliest of ways) with Keith and Abom. ;)
@ThunderDog
@ThunderDog 7 лет назад
Keith, as always keep up the good work. I just read a post over on hobby-machinist.com where Richard King directly talked a guy through the same thing a few years ago regarding the tailstock alignment method. FYI, Richard King contributes in the thread so I encourage others to take a look at those if you want to see more.
@WillyBemis
@WillyBemis 7 лет назад
Thank you Keith!
@tomherd4179
@tomherd4179 7 лет назад
Good tips I had not known about. My lathe is just a SB 10K bench so aligning may not be as easy as yours, but I intend to at least perform the tests you showed. Thanks for another helpful video!
@EVguru
@EVguru 7 лет назад
Hi Keith, It's probably worth mentioning that many lathes have adjustable headstocks. I've seem people jacking the bed all over the place, when in fact it's the headstock that is out. Having to hit a precise diameter seems a slightly fussy way of doing the tailstock alignment. The way I was shown is to turn a diameter (size not important) and cut a centre. Part a slice off the bar and hold it against the end of the bar with a dead centre, then do the checking the same way you did. Something few people seem to know is that the headstock and tailstock are matched as a pair and some lathes can have a large discrepancy in the centre height from machine to machine. It's unlikely anyone would ever complain if their lathe had slightly more swing capacity than quoted and I've heard of machines varying by 1/4" or more. It's not uncommon for tailstocks to be removed for transport and then get mixed up. I've even heard of auctions where all the lathes had the tailstocks removed and sold as a seperate lot!
@RyanWeishalla
@RyanWeishalla 7 лет назад
I thought auction houses only did that with change gears. :-)
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 7 лет назад
That is a Cardinal Sin! Neophytes are the bane of technicians around the world...and those who don't respect history are just deplorable.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 7 лет назад
I have heard of lathes with adjustable headstocks, but I have quite honestly never seen one. Truth is, if I did see one, I would probably shy away from it. If the machine is built so crappy that you need to adjust the tailstock, probably best to just stay away from it! I good lathe should have the head mounted on the ways and should be set up square and true with the ways. If somebody has messed with the headstock alignment, more than likely the head is probably not properly lined up. Much better to twist the bed than move the headstock. At least that is my opinion.
@EVguru
@EVguru 7 лет назад
Don't tell Tom Lipton that! His Yam is built that way and he went through the head alignment a couple of years ago (see "Leveling and Setup of the metalworking lathe P2"). It's simply about the manufacturing technique used. Can you bore the headstock separately, or does it need to be done in-situ on the bed?
@jonka1
@jonka1 7 лет назад
If the headstock is out of line it may be that it has been removed it in the past and replaced on some dirt or paint causing a non-adjustable head to run off. If this is the case then twisting the bed is compounding the problem by creating another miss-alignment to compensate for an existing one. This suggests that you are reluctant to think this through and would rather create more problems in order to make things look ok to the casual observer. We've been here before.
@pasqualuch
@pasqualuch 7 лет назад
nice job, Keith
@fdegeorge2000
@fdegeorge2000 7 лет назад
What a great machine! , l found a good way to settle in a lathe after moving it. I simply installed the 4- jaw and clamped in a block well out of center. After running the out of balance load a while things calmed down nicely. Best of luck
@macalinguba7791
@macalinguba7791 5 лет назад
Torno jaw
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 лет назад
I learned here Keith , Thanks man , I really enjoyed this vid.. Thumbs up man
@gadget73
@gadget73 7 лет назад
Nice tailstock alignment trick. I've been meaning to check mine out, now I have a way to do it. I think I've got some mystery metal in a suitable size to make this happen too.
@normanreid2944
@normanreid2944 7 лет назад
You will get her figured out Keith.
@HomeMadeCnc
@HomeMadeCnc 7 лет назад
Thanks for the education!
@shortribslongbow5312
@shortribslongbow5312 7 лет назад
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
@billlee5307
@billlee5307 7 лет назад
Great video! Thanks.
@mfletch392
@mfletch392 7 лет назад
nice tip on the tailstock Keith
@mimlomiani6949
@mimlomiani6949 7 лет назад
WOW, Beautiful Job Weldon Man. Very interesting indeed. I just wish, you had clean the Chuck, after all this work the clean chuck would have add a much better look to the over all look. But anyway really interesting....
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 7 лет назад
GREAT VIDEO !!!
@afnDavid
@afnDavid 7 лет назад
Muscle memory, hand-eye coordination, controls being in a different location, tactile feedback. they all make a difference.
@painintheass1000
@painintheass1000 4 года назад
Great playlist just started watching your channel as suggested by Adam booth aka abom79 watched rebuild start to finish look forward to seeing more
@ronpeck3226
@ronpeck3226 7 лет назад
Keith, those are simply adjustment jewels, thanks for sharing
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 4 года назад
I saw a Colchester once that used a hardened precision shaft with pressed on pucks that could be machined to check for lathe alignment.
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 6 лет назад
Colchester shows a test bar with two disks pressed on so in a production setup you can have inches of metal to remove before the work gets too thin. The thicker material would also allow heavy cuts that would check for flex in the machine or wobble in the carriage. Otherwise you could just check your test bar with an indicator.
@jankjensen222
@jankjensen222 7 лет назад
Super educational video as always. Thumbs up :-)
@tomzettel105
@tomzettel105 7 лет назад
hey Keith love your your work on youtube you are a great mentor ,you said the lathe at the museum is different, than the Leblond , when you said that it hit a bell in my mind from the passed ,if it is 3 phase it may be wired backwards and the oil pump will not work please check your site glass when running it. Tom from Canada
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 7 лет назад
There is an arrow on the drive pulley that tells which direction it should be turning.
@tomzettel105
@tomzettel105 7 лет назад
Hey Keith; that was easy, thanks for the return message Tom
@ruperthartop7202
@ruperthartop7202 6 лет назад
Wow. I've never seen that way of lining up a tailstock before. Think ill have a go
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen 7 лет назад
nice job and thanks for sharing.
@NoelBarlau
@NoelBarlau 7 лет назад
I recognize your tapered level block as the deburring stone Richard gave us at the beginning of his class. Mine is missing, and I'm hoping it turns up when I unpack in the new shop. Fingers crossed!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 7 лет назад
That is exactly what that is! If you can't find yours, it is called a "Slip Stone" and they are pretty easy to find and don't cost that much money.
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 7 лет назад
THANK YOU...for sharing.
@llsdigitek
@llsdigitek 7 лет назад
Excellent!!!
@OldIronShops
@OldIronShops 7 лет назад
very good information
@owais146
@owais146 2 года назад
Awesome Sir
@hamiltongazim7094
@hamiltongazim7094 3 года назад
brasil, estou adorando seus videos, parabens amigo pelo conteudo de qualidade
@derrnav1530
@derrnav1530 7 лет назад
I see you are missing the cover for the cross feed ways. On my LeBlond I tossed the cover and fastened a piece of 1/8 thick rubber to cover those ways. Since my digital readout encoder fits back there also: two birds, one stone. Thank you for your videos, and I have purchased and used your sponsors phase converters. Great converters and great videos.
@mikemarriam
@mikemarriam 7 лет назад
Very enjoyable. Info i can use. thanks.
@aserta
@aserta 7 лет назад
Positioning the whole thing slightly higher makes perfect sense to me, i mean, in architecture, you make a beam have a slight upper bow in it so it takes the load and comes out even. Same here. Great advise there.
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch 7 лет назад
A tail stock under load tends to lift since the anchor, and hence the pivot point, is below the thrust axis.
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 7 лет назад
Eddie, if you are doing small work, i.e. usual bench lathe work, I'd rather have the quill center-line +.001/+.002 over the spindle center-line for drilling small holes. As you mentioned in another comment, it's really important that the quill be parallel to the bed. If it isn't, often you end up with mysterious tapered drilled holes and tapered ODs.
@jaswats9645
@jaswats9645 7 лет назад
Great video! I am a little bummed, would've loved to see the shim process of the tail stock but oh well!
@62346
@62346 7 лет назад
Greaqt vid! Thanks Keith
@jessemendes9491
@jessemendes9491 7 лет назад
Parabéns , muito bom !
@Patroand
@Patroand 7 лет назад
Thanks a lot. Great informations Regards
@waynephillips2777
@waynephillips2777 7 лет назад
Thanks
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 7 лет назад
Everything is different, somehow. I'm mainly a Cat man and every time I got on a Case I had to learn to run it all over again. Glad the lathe is 'flattened' now so you can sharpen the clipper blades because it won't be long till the baby face returns.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 7 лет назад
I fully get the Cat vs Case thing. I work with a lot of farm tractors - and most everybody around here uses Deere equipment. When I get on something different, I have to figure out where everything is.....
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian 7 лет назад
I recently checked my L&S, and got shim stock that was 2 thou too thick, and was unhappy about it. I forgot about the idea of having the tailstock a bit high. If you think lathes are bad, try going from a Case to a JCB backhoe. Not only did it take ages for my hands, but feet are also involved. Thanks. I can go ahead and throw that thicker stock in.
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