Welcome to the sixth lecture of my BYU 2020 creative writing class focused on writing science fiction and fantasy. Today's class is the second part of my series on worldbuilding.
@@randomrick Couldn't hear the guy either. According to subs tho: In order to be in the military, one has to have a spouse slash fighting partner - but the MC is a BYU freshman and can't find his wife.
random rick basically his story premise is a military that only takes couples that fight together. And the story revolves around a new recruit that’s just starting out and he needs to find a mate.
@@Demigord I recently read a story that takes place on Earth, and it was about some 14 year old kid saving his friend from an abusive father, and it was engaging as hell. You don't need an epic fantasy world to tell a beautiful story. I encourage you to try and write one; it's an incredible experience, I think you'll find you're far more capable than you realize.
True. I'm watching this series not really for the content (which is great) but as a perfect lesson in how to structure a lecture. Interactive and full of insight.
I still haven't seen the animated series (it's next on my list) shout out to the person that called out dune. Probably my second favorite book series of all time.
13:03 "The murder happened at Comicon and it was Naruto day" *The detective is a mom* Watch in agony as she asks every person in the place if they are Naruto.
It would be fun if she had to get her nerdy brother whos a slacker or maybe her son/daughter that she's had trouble connecting with who has an extensive knowledge of nerd culture. So the detective is also a fish out of water.
As someone writing her first Fantasy series and can't afford to go back to school for creative writing/English, this kind of education is priceless. Thank you Brandon for sharing your knowledge.
Yes absolutely, lol Sanderson is incredible. I write videos on storytelling and world building, and am also slowly releasing a music soundtrack to accompany a story world I am creating. It would mean the world to me if you checked out my channel and my music there, and possibly subscribed to see what else I have coming! As someone who also enjoys writing, it would mean the world to me. Thank you!
Love the fact he's upfront about what he can and can't spell, because it really eases my mind over the idea of "because I write, I should know all the words in my language, and how to spell them."
@@Fleischygeruch wow, really? Great to know! 🙄 The point that you either didn't get - or ignored - was that being a writer doesn't necessarily mean you have to know how to spell everything. Having a dictionary or thesaurus to hand still doesn't mean you *know* how to spell these words 😜
English is a straight up nonsense language compared to many more logical and consistent ones, so I never feel too bad when I can't remember the spelling of every word.
@@Fleischygeruch yeah but at the same time do you know how many times i've heard the stupid axiom of, "if you have to look in the thesaurus, it's the wrong word?" like i get the meaning, but it still fucked with my brain HARD, for a long time.
Very grateful for two things: 1. Sanderson's fab lectures. 2. The positivity of the comments in this thread! It is wholly refreshing to see peoples energized and thoughtful reactions to the work of others and to see selfless and respectful sharing of opinions, jokes, and joy for writing. Thanks for the ray of light, y'all!
1:40 What does World Building mean to you? 6:00 World Building in the context of Sci-Fi and Fantasy 8:08 or 8:40 World Building in service of Story > Info Dumps/Ways to Conveying information in an interesting way 13:42 Pyramid of Abstraction > Showing vs Telling > 22:04 >Grounding you into the World First/Through the Eyes of a Character > Mistborn/Ways of Kings/Robert Jordan 25:19 mini Q&A. Watson/Apprentice Characters, Portal Fantasy, Journal Entries The List: Examples of World building Enhancing the Story 30:40 John Wick 33:00 Avatar The Last Airbender 38:19 Firefly 41:32 The Expanse 42:25 Dune 43:56 Physical Setting and Cultural Setting 55:39 Exercise: Enhancing Genre(/Plot Archtype) by coming up with ideas that focus on one Aspect of Setting 1:08:11 Debriefing the exercise, Pick a Narrow Focus and Interconnect them
The section on abstract vs concrete information is such a nugget of gold! I'm planning on using this to help me become a better DM for D&D. Notes: Concrete: all of the readers/listeners are imagining the same thing in their head. The benefits of this information is that there is less dispute or confusion among readers, and it puts them more in the minds of the characters, and less in the mind of the author. A negative is that it can slow down a story when you explain too much, often leading to boredom. Abstract: all of the readers/listeners are imagining different things based on personal biases and life experiences. The benefits are that you can easily talk about the themes in your story, and the reader can make their own conclusions about the subject. A negative is that it can feel like a lecture from the author instead of the character's point of view, and it often leads to disparity about what the author meant. - More words often equals more concrete information, less words often means more abstract. -Anytime you can use less words to make something more concrete, do it! -You should be writing in concrete terms most of the time, but the reader still needs some abstractness.
I'll argue that the peak of the pyramid itself shouldn't be a writer's goal. Neither should it be that everything is stone-cold concrete. Give the reader details to set off their imagination. Let their imagination bloom in the abstract. Resist the Urge to Explain.
I actualy put down Stormlight midway through Kalladin's apearance. (i think that is the third prologue) I was SO burned down with the other two that I just didn't care anymore. Now the problem was that that was the first time I read something from Brandon. After reading mistborn first era, the reckoners, warbreaker, elantris and a bit of mistborn era two, I begun stormlight again and it became one of my favorite series now. I understand why he says that was a big risk.
@@maddybemus3729 I've read Warbreaker at least three times and loved it. For the life of me I just can't get through like the first two chapters of Mistborn. Don't know why. After I'm done with my first GoT read thru, maybe I'll try Mistborn on audible or something.
It's interesting hearing him say this. I picked up Stormlight *after* reading (and loving) Mistborn and Warbreaker, and after reading (and hating) Elantris. I dutifully plugged my way through WoK without any sense of the "promise" of the story and then put it down and have not looked back. I have absolutely no desire to read on. I cannot for the life of me tell what the story is about, and I can't figure out why people like it (beyond simple Brandon Fanpersoning).
@@EmonEconomist basicly Kalladin it's a good character, and the storytelling it's spot on as well. The world is weird and different, it takes a while to get used to it. There are reasons for why the book starts how it does, it will pay of eventually but it's a shame, that start is a huge barrier for new comers. I would suggest to try to push yoursel through 2-3 more chapters but only of Kalladin's story, skip any other chapter, and if you are not interested yet, rest asured the book is not for you. That is how I did it, I only read Kalladin's and some of Dallanar's chapter at first, my second reading.
I agree. I full heartedly believe it shouldn't cost anything to learn a skill because that's the point of life! It would be like saying to a five year old "Oh you want me to teach you how to ride a bike? Okay give me $50." If anything I have the view that it's much more costly in the longrun not to have easy access to an education be it k-12, tradeschools or even colleges.
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.
The encouragement Brandon offers is amazing. A lot of literary educators teach in the manner of "don't do this, don't do that" whereas these lectures are so full of positivity. Very grateful this is publicly available.
Just purely from a teaching standpoint it was fun to see how animated the class got when they were allowed to shout out the physical or cultural aspect of different genres, and suggest their story concepts. Really fun teaching technique to get the class involved.
Coming to this video two years later, its interesting to hear Brandon talking about how he's never done a fast blitz release where he announces an entire line at once... before the Secret Projects happened. Also really wierd to hear someone shout out "Coronavirus destroys China's economy" as a horror idea. That must have been super early days in the pandemic before it got everywhere.
Agreed. Sanderson is incredible. I write videos on storytelling and world building, and am also slowly releasing a music soundtrack to accompany a story world I am creating. It would mean the world to me if you checked out my channel and my music there, and possibly subscribed to see what else I have coming! As someone who also enjoys writing, it would mean the world to me. Thank you!
I picked flora and mystery and then thought: what if the trees started killing people? Before I knew it I had a declining career as a filmaker. Thanks Brandon....
Well, Annihilation (2018) has something close to mysterious plants killing people... So it's not really the idea itself that is bad.. It's more likely that generic plant monster movies/ giant mutant shark/ crocodile movies are poorly written and filled with lousy CGI.
@@ReconUnPro The Happening? I think the movie was about plants releasing chemicals that was carried by the wind to kill humans because they were a poison to the earth. Not sure if I remember that exactly lol
@@starmorpheus I just looked it up and... Well, the film didn't do very well. Tbh, I think any movie that mainly focuses on plants don't really make much of an interesting story.. Man-killing plants, that's pretty much the only story where plants are the main part of the story, and it's way overused
I don't know why the tax one got me so hard. I was laughing so hard. "You wake up on April 16th, the day after taxes are due... and they aren't done." True economic horror.
I'm not even a writer (just watching these videos for fun), and the part about the abstraction pyramid was so informative about communication in general.
I've never wanted to participate in a lecture more - found myself wanting to ask and answer questions as I'm watching this. Very envious of the students!
I fell asleep, in my dream I was getting a lecture that was helping me put together some ideas for my dnd setting that I’ve been working on but was stuck on a road block of inspiration. I woke up, had to write down my ideas, and continue the lecture awake. Brandon Sanderson is so overflowing with creativity he not only helped me get past a dam of inspiration but he blew that damn apart while I was sleeping. That’s pretty bad ass. Totally random but Brandon if you read this, there’s a magic system in you revolving around sleep.
Yea this lecture was fantastic. Sanderson is incredible. I write videos on storytelling and world building, and am also slowly releasing a music soundtrack to accompany a story world I am creating. It would mean the world to me if you checked out my channel and my music there, and possibly subscribed to see what else I have coming! As someone who also enjoys writing, it would mean the world to me. Thank you!
55:06 - and yet Sanderson himself manages to get almost everything on the board into the Stormlight universe in some way or another. That's the true mark of his brilliance as a writer, being able to stuff so much into a book series without it feeling overwhelming for the reader!
I love the fact that the peeps attending the lectures are now way more confident than they were initially P.s I am referring to them completing Brandon's sentences!
One of the greatest "worlds" for me has always been Starship Troopers. That novel felt so much larger than the book actually was when twelve year old me read it.
@@shinobi-no-bueno all of the movies are fun. I recently went back and powered through the book again and while I still enjoyed it some of the "size" had disappeared.
I remember how impressed I was in one of the WoT books, in Siuan Sanche’s POV. They way she spoke in fishing village idioms and themes… it was so concrete and solidly placed her as a lowborn who has gone up in the world without dumping lore on the reader.
18:08 This is some excellent advice, and an interesting way of presenting this. I call this "being a Mandalorian author", because that's who taught me that there comes an ability to command respect with being a man of a few tactfully chosen words.
I love the fact that I'm watching this after several months of COVID, when a student suggested it as the horror theme...like bro you had no idea. None of us did.
Heck yea. Sanderson is incredible. I write videos on storytelling and world building, and am also slowly releasing a music soundtrack to accompany a story world I am creating. It would mean the world to me if you checked out my channel and my music there, and possibly subscribed to see what else I have coming! As someone who also enjoys writing, it would mean the world to me. Thank you!!
I thought these world building episodes were going to be the least useful to me as I'm not really writing a whole fantasy world at the moment, but this was amazing to think about how the environment can impact the story, and is still really relevant for setting things in the real world. The whole series has been amazing so far!
Yea it is. Sanderson is incredible. I write videos on storytelling and world building, and am also slowly releasing a music soundtrack to accompany a story world I am creating. It would mean the world to me if you checked out my channel and my music there, and possibly subscribed to see what else I have coming! As someone who also enjoys writing, it would mean the world to me. Thank you!
And another excellent lecture by an amazing author. Brandon sharing his own methods is incredible. Few authors are willing to give away their secrets. Thank you Brandon!
Brandon, I want to vehemently thank you for trading your knowledge for my time. Every minute I spend on your lectures is 1 day I save in writing my books.
I think that one of the most compelling aspects of worldbuilding in Fantasy/Sci-Fi is that it allows you to exaggerate aspects of the real world to a degree that those exaggerated aspects (or themes) can pose a much greater danger, or have a much larger impact, than they normally would. It also allows us to create contexts where a character _could_ exist (air benders can't exist unless elemental bending where a reality). This sets stakes in a story higher than you could reasonably find in a more realistic setting.
Am I the only one who loves how down to Earth Brandon is? Like he can't spell some easy words. I've always thought professional writers to be on some next level. Makes me feel better about being a writer and not knowing my alphabet.
I'm with you. I always get confused about which end of the pencil is the eraser and which end is the other thing and your comment made me feel much better about myself
Hahaha I'm a journalist and still mess up "i before e". The point is telling the story and honouring either the idea or the reality behind it (depends on if you're a fiction or a non-fiction author). Spelling is of course important but it is really such a small part of what makes language, and all the things you can do with it, so wonderful. A few mistakes are okay here and there. the point of spelling is so it's easier and quicker for other people to understand what you've written. It's a tool, not the whole point.
I have always thought about worldbuilding and fantasy aesthetic in general as a way to explore the human condition in a way that emphasizes aspects the author wants to focus on. The aesthetic and world of middle earth calls the conflict between industry and nature. Its a way of exploring very human concepts in a fantastical way
More than the educational content of all these lectures, watching Brandon struggle with penmanship and spelling like I do gives me the most hope that I can write some day.
im doing my best to tell a story that ive had in my head for a while now and this lecture series has been really encouraging me to keep going, sorta demystifying the art
Economy and horror idea: spirit world currency is human souls after you have died. The story can be called: The Afterlife. (Sharing because I'll probably not write it. If you write it, please just share a copy with me).
I tried and failed. I had my writing program, and I watched all your videos about a year ago, and I kept writing and all my world-building ended up in large groups of paragraphs that made no sense. I finally thought maps are good maybe I should draw a map, and that wasn't very good. I kept daydreaming and actually writing was not happing. Finally, I bought a program called campfire, and that was what I needed. Everything you suggest has a card for it, and it's wonderful for staying organized. So I redrew my map and found my two-year day-dream had given me enough idea I filled an entire world, and then some. Who knows maybe I finish my book before I am 50.
The key point in this lecture is that the first priority is good characters, then second is a good plot, and that setting/world is third and only works when it supports and enhances the characters and the plot.
As for understanding the "show vs tell" rule, the book that was most illuminating to me was The Rhetoric of Fiction by Wayne C. Booth. Booth was a literary critic. Curiously his parents where Mormons from Utah, where he was born. He introduced many interesting things in that book. The basic idea of the book was the vision of writing as a form of rhetoric. Another idea was the argumentation against the dogmatic vision of that "show vs tell" rule. It was also in that book that the "unreliable narrator" was first officially introduced, or so i think. And probably most important and maybe paradoxically, it was the fact that the author of the book was an essential part of the story in the mind of the reader. I really recommend this "old" book to anyone, be it reader or writer.
The old Greek story you meant is that of Atalante. Men who want to be her husband need to defeat her in a race or die. Coincidentally, I just brought that up under reviews to Jenna Moreci's "The Savior's Champion". 😊
My favorite world building is the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. The Land is a beautiful and wonderful place. But he really makes the Land exquisite by the characters that populate it. Moram's dignity, Foamfollower's laughter, Elena's extremity all make me love the place more and hate what Despite is doing to it.
So true about the low star reviews for Way of Kings. I put it down after a few chapters the first time. I put it down after the first arc the second time. But the third time reading it I was already somewhat familiar with the world due to the first two attempts at reading it that I was able to enjoy the story more and my god did I love it...
What I say is Worldbuilding affects the outside challenges the characters have to face. Those challenges should generally reflect the themes. Dune, for example, in pretty much EVERY challenge they have to face, is about overcoming instinct with the power of the human mind. Instinct tells us to swing our sword faster, instinct tells us to walk on the sand with rhythm, especially when a thumper is on the ground. Instinct tells us to dive for the caves to hide from the attacks, instinct tells us to cry. Every single problem I listed is intrensically linked to the setting. In my book, the themes are how factions break us apart and individuality and self-sustaining lifestyles are squashed under other peoples quarrels. So to test the main character, a military deserter, he has to make compromises for his freedom all the time. The power system is literally dictated by your ability to think for yourself more than everyone else.
I am here to implore anyone who hasn't read Mistborn, or any of the sanderson books mentioned in the series, TO DO IT. YOULL REGRET IT if you don't, he talks a lot about them as examples and they work amazingly well as tools to understand some of his points, especially in worldbuilding in service of the story AND characterization. Mistborn was such an interesting read, a unique magic system and a story that feels new, original and pristine even 30 years later. Read it before it anyone spoils it, you'll love it. So, so worth it
I'm not going to lie, I almost put the WoK down for good. The prologue just really didn't do it for me. Luckily, my brother, who had recommended it, convinced me to go a little further. Honestly, nothing really landed for me until the Heretic chapter, where Challan's motivations are revealed. That's where the story started to get interesting for me, and I've loved it ever since.
I was hoping someone would say ONE PIECE in that opening segment....man people are sleeping on this one....23 YEARS of great worldbuilding and still going strong...
Well, to be fair, one piece's world building is kind of added on as the story goes on and it is very fantastical where anything can happen. Every island is a world by itself and it doesn't necessarily affect other island. You can introduce anything into one piece and make it believable as part of the world. Flying elephants could easily exist in that universe. Or weird computer gadgets. It's not as difficult to make things up in one piece where anything goes.
I really wish I could take one of your classes one day! @Brandon Sanderson I just loved all of the classes you uploaded here and are helping me write my own story! thanks for this.
My favorite nugget of wisdom: Your setting can be broken down into bullet points, created into scenes, then melded into the story just like a character. Wow. aAAAAnd now I’m thinking about when the TARDIS became an actual woman.
I'd say relating to the apparent power of these characters and how the worldbuilding affects that, that every time you see an extremely powerful bender, it showcases just how much potential and power Aang has with his ability to master all four elements. By extension it showcases how powerful Lord Ozai must be. Throughout the story, the inherent rule is that Aang has to master all four elements and potentially even the Avatar state in order to even compete with this man, and he's just a firebender.
I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum, worrying about not building my world in enough fields, and I'm reassured that I don't actually have to dive in detail into fashion, economics, geopolitics, and all that stuff.
29:00 I was about to say Tamara Pierce had a steep learning curve, but then I realized that that was only because my local library didn't have most of the books so I started with Daja's book, which was the third in a series of four...
The idea of being aware of abstract vs concrete vocabulary is interesting where it applies to everyday communication too! Just being aware of the words you used and how easily they can be misinterpreted.
Thank you so much for putting up this lecture series. I don’t go to BYU - likely never will - but even if I did, this would be the best way for me to come to this material myself and learn about it. Exceptional.