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Lee Mack Shocked By Great-Grandmother Fleeing To Canada 

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Lee travels to Balina in Ireland in the footsteps of his maternal ancestors, looking for more answers. Lee discovers his grandad Joe was born out of wedlock at a time when there was huge stigma around illegitimate children. His mother, Delia, would have struggled to find work, making her decision to go Montreal, her passage paid by a domestic agency, far more understandable.
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Comedian Lee Mack was born Lee McKillop in the north of England, just like his McKillop great-grandfather, who was also a comedian, known as Billy Mac. Lee has a few playbills from Billy Mac's variety hall performances, but knows little more about him. Not long into his journey, Lee discovers that his great-grandfather was passionate about more than making people laugh. Billy Mac joined the first ever pals battalion in Liverpool at the start of the First World War and honed his act at the front lines in the Battle of the Somme. Lee is also curious about his maternal grandad Joe's upbringing - deserted by his unwed mother and raised by his grandparents in County Mayo at the time of the Irish Civil War.
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Lee Mack, creator of Not Going Out, has long been drawn to the figure of his great grandfather, Billy Mac. Autographed photographs and mementoes reveal that Billy was also a comedian and that he performed at the ‘Chic’ Casino in Lee’s native Southport - can Lee find out more?
“As I get older, I’m getting more curious,” Lee says at the start of his episode of Who Do You Think You Are? He begins by ordering up Billy’s birth record. It shows that William Alexander McKillop was born in 1889, which means he was 25 years old when the First World War broke out. In August 1914, Billy volunteered for the King’s Liverpool Regiment as part of the first-ever Pals Battalion.
As Lee follows Billy’s wartime odyssey through training at Lord Derby’s estate, Knowsley Hall, and then to northern France, where Billy advanced in the third wave of troops on the first day of the Somme, it emerges that Billy performed with a concert party, The Optimists, while in the military. Lee learns how the troupe even performed straight after taking part in a brutal battle at Ypres. “That’s unbelievable to be actually shot at, or perhaps to kill someone, and then to walk on stage,” marvels Lee.
In the wake of the conflict, Billy carried on performing, but by 1922 he was working in the “wireless apparatus” industry. But there’s one last twist. Lee was curious as to why the family has publicity photographs of Billy that have been autographed. It turns out that he “ended up marrying an autograph hunter”, Lee’s great grandmother, Gladys.
Next, Lee researches the life of his maternal grandad, Joe, whose mother went to Canada and left her son to be raised by his grandparents. “It does feel a bit cold,” says Lee after visiting his aunt in Southport and hearing her memories of a worrier and a “very money-conscious” man.
In Ballina in Ireland, Lee learns more. Joe was born out of wedlock at a time when there was huge stigma around illegitimate children. His mother, Delia, would have struggled to find work, making her decision to go Montreal, her passage paid by a domestic agency, far more understandable.
He also learns about Delia’s parents, Thomas and Mary Farrell. Thomas was a labourer who lived in a two-room house and had a sideline in selling unlicensed booze in a ‘shebeen’. He was often fined for his activities. Then, in 1922, he made an insurance claim after the doors and windows of his home “were wantonly and maliciously damaged or injured by rifle fire”.
This was the time of the Irish civil war when family fought family, but it may be the Farrells were simply caught in the crossfire. Whatever the truth, Joe’s worrisome nature is now easier for Lee to understand. His forebears, he says, have gone from seeming “abstract” to being “real people.”

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@juliewillard1367
@juliewillard1367 Год назад
My father was left by my grandmother in the 1930’s. There were 4 children and she left them all in Ireland and fled to England. My grandfather was an alcoholic and I can only imagine her life must have been terrible to leave her children. I never knew my grandparents so I can’t judge them now but my father and siblings were brought up by his aunt who had her own children. She looked after seven children in rural Ireland and they were very poor. Her kindness was amazing. Life was very hard back then.
@susaneckholdt
@susaneckholdt Год назад
Terrible. My maiden name was Farrell and my mother told me many years ago that as a little boy my dad was made to watch his little Yorkshire terrier being drowned in the bath by his alcoholic father.
@MsPlayitright
@MsPlayitright 2 года назад
Very interesting that we can trace our ancestors. Mine emigrated from Scotland to Argentina and later some, to the States. Being able to trace your family history is so eye opening!
@seekwisdom7757
@seekwisdom7757 2 года назад
Lots of immigrants in the 1950s....even married, left their young babies, children back home with grandparents or relatives whilst they went off to a New World...even happens nowadays. They want to find work , earn, set up a base & then usually send for their child/children or travel back to their home country to bring them over years later.
@johannebaker9730
@johannebaker9730 2 года назад
We discovered after my Gran on my Dad’s side died that his ‘ uncle’ was actually his half brother. It was so sad that even in her old age she never acknowledged him as her illegitimate son. He knew because her Father threw him out at 16 . My Dad was able to reconnect with him and his Family before they both passed but I always thought how hard it must’ve been knowing your own Mother could then would not acknowledge him. Different times indeed.
@maureenackerley8024
@maureenackerley8024 2 года назад
Just too sad! 😪
@christianfreedom-seeker934
@christianfreedom-seeker934 Год назад
Yeah, I had a buddy whose father actually disowned him (!) Just for being of a different worldview than the father. Sad that families felt it was so important to "look good" with the community that they would disinherit or illegitimize a family member for being "different" or even disabled.
@SAWhite33
@SAWhite33 Год назад
My great grandmother, did the same thing, left my granddad to be raised by her parents, and went to Canada.
@milliewilkie1969
@milliewilkie1969 Год назад
1921 my grandmother left my dad with her parents and emigrated to USA from Liverpool she was early stages of pregnancy with another child but fudged it a Ellis Island she never came back for my dad he was always bitter about it but she had a hard life when she got to USA
@bettychatfield2544
@bettychatfield2544 Год назад
My Grandmother left England and came to Canada at the same time as his great-grandmother and for the same reason. My aunt meet the half sister she had in England years later.... it must have been so hard on all of them but that was the way it was back then
@susannortham11.11
@susannortham11.11 2 года назад
Love Lee Mack and the show Not Going Out here in the states ❤
@joeconnolly6978
@joeconnolly6978 Год назад
Fascinating story on both sides of family
@thatchoirgirl94
@thatchoirgirl94 Год назад
That's quite the journey if one doesn't just board a plane in Liverpool to fly over to Knock, because one's terrified of flying. 🥺Aw, bless him!
@One.DeSanctis.
@One.DeSanctis. Год назад
It may well be "cold" to leave your child to live work abroad if you eat daily and can feed your child enough. Emotional motivations are a luxury to people who do not have their physiological needs met. Think Maslow and try to realize that altruism does not frequently flower amongst abject poverty.
@weneverstop.4640
@weneverstop.4640 Год назад
Wow thats where my great grandparents were from. Ballina
@elizdonovan5650
@elizdonovan5650 Год назад
People are still leaving their children and families in poorer countries to work in so called 1st world countries. They do so they can send money home. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. One cannot judge the past by today’s standards. If any of us were ‘magically’ transported to the past, how long would we survive? Life is hard on the poor. Choices are very limited, if they even have a choice in some situations. ☘️🌝🌲
@Neddoest
@Neddoest Год назад
A universal truth: being poor is miserably hard work. It is _exhausting_
@sisterstonerock
@sisterstonerock 2 года назад
sometimes, time gives us a better perspective of things, doesn't it? Also, Lee's great-gran looks like Millie B. Brown. hehehe
@kabbystevens5167
@kabbystevens5167 2 года назад
What happened to the great grandmother once in Canada?
@kabbystevens5167
@kabbystevens5167 2 года назад
@Nicky L …thank you.
@tricia4479
@tricia4479 Год назад
@Nicky L that's not true. I've watched the whole thing.
@pynn1000
@pynn1000 Год назад
@@tricia4479 Nicky L said "according to what I've *read*", not "according to what I've seen on youtube," so your comment is rude.
@cherylcallahan5402
@cherylcallahan5402 Год назад
*Who do you think you are? Lee Mack shocked Great Grandmother fleeing to Canada appreciate your videos Listening 🌟 from Mass USA TYVM 💙*
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Год назад
Clever conceit. "Oh, noooo, this isn't our illegitimate grandkid, noo, he went with his disgraced mum to Canada, this is a completely different kid that just happens to be the exact same age!"
@malahammer
@malahammer Год назад
My great grandad and grandmother were married 19/4/1895, they lived next door to each other in Clontarf, Dublin. Their first child was born 2/7/1895! This marriage didn't last as my great grandad ended up with another woman.
@arwelp
@arwelp Год назад
Ha! They were amateurs. My grandparents got married 6th April 1918, and the first (of 9) children was born on 17th April! They couldn’t really complain that my parents got married 4th June 1945 and my eldest brother was born on 26th November….
@kaybonette
@kaybonette 2 года назад
Didn't this channel used to tell the whole story in one video. I don't like them so chopped up. Is there any place to see the whole show?
@graceygrumble
@graceygrumble 2 года назад
BBC i-player
@bostonblackie9503
@bostonblackie9503 2 года назад
So sh was sort of like a bond servant.
@pambrown6260
@pambrown6260 2 года назад
What a shame that society made such a judgment of other's lives.
@varunsharma3532
@varunsharma3532 Год назад
What a shame that you make such a judgement about society, which too evolves and grows with time, a lot of time
@Goldenhawk583
@Goldenhawk583 Год назад
@@varunsharma3532 100 years is not such a long time really.. I guess you are thriving in the current society? I mean.. we cant judge it apparently..so you must like it?
@varunsharma3532
@varunsharma3532 Год назад
@@Goldenhawk583 I don't judge crocodiles either nor do I judge the extinct cannibalistic homoerectus Without condoning or condemning, I understand
@Goldenhawk583
@Goldenhawk583 Год назад
@@varunsharma3532 cannibalsitic.. right. Do you agree then, that forcing a species to eat food they are not designed to digest ( like making cats and dogs be vegans), is abusive behaviour?
@varunsharma3532
@varunsharma3532 Год назад
@@Goldenhawk583 dogs can be vegetarian, don't know about cats
@Ellierua
@Ellierua 2 года назад
It's Balina right?
@patti4785
@patti4785 Год назад
Ballina
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 10 месяцев назад
Ballina, Co.Mayo (as distinct from Ballina, Co. Tipperary).
@annemettefrederiksen7751
@annemettefrederiksen7751 Год назад
A woman unwed and with a child in the good old days and in Eire no less, Yeah, i wonder why on earth she left 🤔 What could possibly have forced women and children apart in a highly Catholic conservative country ? So difficult to imagine the reason for leaving ...Such a mystery, really ? 🙄
@paddymuppy
@paddymuppy Год назад
Also, It's only Éire if you are speak Irish. It's *Ireland to you.
@Neddoest
@Neddoest Год назад
I want to leave and I’m not even there in that situation
@steveshepherd2712
@steveshepherd2712 Год назад
The church has a lot of heartbreak and misery to answer for but they ensure it comes too late to compensate 🙁
@Marcel_Audubon
@Marcel_Audubon Год назад
they ain't answering, but the people are ... but leaving the church
@haeuptlingaberja4927
@haeuptlingaberja4927 2 года назад
Such were the pressures and cruelties in the lives of the working class back in the good old days of "moral probity and rectitude" that the Tories are working so hard to bring back. Just wait till Rees-Mogg gets those Workhouses up and running again--then you lot will get to experience for yourselves all the joys of being penniless & despised serfs in a new & glorious age of the eternal ruling class.
@pauljohnson2982
@pauljohnson2982 Год назад
You sound like a bag of laughs..!?!!
@martinliehs2513
@martinliehs2513 Год назад
It's happening everywhere, but it's not just the Tories nor any other national government. "Build Back Better" ,"New Normal" and "You Will Own Nothing and Be Happy" sound familiar? These words seem to be parroted by leaders on both the "right" and the "left".
@tricia4479
@tricia4479 Год назад
So, that woman talking to him, could be related to him......
@karenbishop5885
@karenbishop5885 Год назад
Women left for work, today you see a lot of women leaving their children to find work and send money home. Society is cruel, whatever the reason, it is never easy to turn your back on your children.
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 2 года назад
Irish records are in a dreadful mess...
@helenowens2303
@helenowens2303 2 года назад
The reason for this is the records office was bombed in the War of Independence 1922 and most of the files were destroyed
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 2 года назад
@@helenowens2303 I was only expressing my own experience... 🙄
@helenowens2303
@helenowens2303 2 года назад
No offense taken, I was just saying why it's so bad 😊
@tommercury3349
@tommercury3349 Год назад
@@helenowens2303 that's not true
@janewhite2331
@janewhite2331 2 года назад
He clearly has quite a chauvinist view of the difference between mothers and fathers
@madwhitehare3635
@madwhitehare3635 2 года назад
Nope. Don’t start doing that ‘men and women are the same’ rubbish. I know two women who abandoned their kids and husbands. They were both self obsessed and cold and damaged their children’s psyches. It’s bad enough when a father does it, but when your mother demonstrates her complete disregard for what should be her dearest love, it’s devastating.
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