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Lee Mack Uncovers Family Were Caught Up In Irish Civil War 

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Lee continues his research into Delia’s parents, Thomas and Mary Farrell. Thomas was a labourer who lived in a two-room house and had a sideline in selling unlicensed booze in a ‘shebeen’. He was often fined for his activities. Then, in 1922, he made an insurance claim after the doors and windows of his home were damaged by rifle fire. This was the time of the Irish civil war when family fought family, but it may be the Farrells were simply caught in the crossfire.
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Comedian Lee Mack was born Lee McKillop in the north of England, just like his McKillop great-grandfather, who was also a comedian, known as Billy Mac. Lee has a few playbills from Billy Mac's variety hall performances, but knows little more about him. Not long into his journey, Lee discovers that his great-grandfather was passionate about more than making people laugh. Billy Mac joined the first ever pals battalion in Liverpool at the start of the First World War and honed his act at the front lines in the Battle of the Somme. Lee is also curious about his maternal grandad Joe's upbringing - deserted by his unwed mother and raised by his grandparents in County Mayo at the time of the Irish Civil War.
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Lee Mack, creator of Not Going Out, has long been drawn to the figure of his great grandfather, Billy Mac. Autographed photographs and mementoes reveal that Billy was also a comedian and that he performed at the ‘Chic’ Casino in Lee’s native Southport - can Lee find out more?
“As I get older, I’m getting more curious,” Lee says at the start of his episode of Who Do You Think You Are? He begins by ordering up Billy’s birth record. It shows that William Alexander McKillop was born in 1889, which means he was 25 years old when the First World War broke out. In August 1914, Billy volunteered for the King’s Liverpool Regiment as part of the first-ever Pals Battalion.
As Lee follows Billy’s wartime odyssey through training at Lord Derby’s estate, Knowsley Hall, and then to northern France, where Billy advanced in the third wave of troops on the first day of the Somme, it emerges that Billy performed with a concert party, The Optimists, while in the military. Lee learns how the troupe even performed straight after taking part in a brutal battle at Ypres. “That’s unbelievable to be actually shot at, or perhaps to kill someone, and then to walk on stage,” marvels Lee.
In the wake of the conflict, Billy carried on performing, but by 1922 he was working in the “wireless apparatus” industry. But there’s one last twist. Lee was curious as to why the family has publicity photographs of Billy that have been autographed. It turns out that he “ended up marrying an autograph hunter”, Lee’s great grandmother, Gladys.
Next, Lee researches the life of his maternal grandad, Joe, whose mother went to Canada and left her son to be raised by his grandparents. “It does feel a bit cold,” says Lee after visiting his aunt in Southport and hearing her memories of a worrier and a “very money-conscious” man.
In Ballina in Ireland, Lee learns more. Joe was born out of wedlock at a time when there was huge stigma around illegitimate children. His mother, Delia, would have struggled to find work, making her decision to go Montreal, her passage paid by a domestic agency, far more understandable.
He also learns about Delia’s parents, Thomas and Mary Farrell. Thomas was a labourer who lived in a two-room house and had a sideline in selling unlicensed booze in a ‘shebeen’. He was often fined for his activities. Then, in 1922, he made an insurance claim after the doors and windows of his home “were wantonly and maliciously damaged or injured by rifle fire”.
This was the time of the Irish civil war when family fought family, but it may be the Farrells were simply caught in the crossfire. Whatever the truth, Joe’s worrisome nature is now easier for Lee to understand. His forebears, he says, have gone from seeming “abstract” to being “real people.”

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@kevinwhelan9607
@kevinwhelan9607 Год назад
It doesn't surprise me one bit that Lee Mack has Irish blood-- his gifts as a comic writer with Not Going Out--easily as good as Fawlty Towers-- his puns and quips on Would I Lie to You?: a very Irish, razor sharp wit. And he is very clever of course. If he was an Oxbridge grad he would be treated much more seriously by the British media, but no harm: he has brought a lot of joy and laughter to millions. On a side note-- my mother's people the Gallagher's (pronounced "Gallaher" in Ireland--the second g is silent-- and "Gollaher" in Mayo) was born not far from Ballina, and I can recall many a happy holiday on the family farm near Moygowna. My family lived in of all places the Cotswolds, but that part of Mayo holds a special place in my heart. Well done, Lee, and thank you to whomever posted this.
@gazurtoids1
@gazurtoids1 Год назад
'Ancestors can be abstract people'......it's a great quote and very true for most of us, but they were very real people who in many ways shaped who we are
@mcm0324
@mcm0324 Год назад
I became addicted to Ancestory during COVID lockdown. I already knew so much about my family from Ireland. I wish it was easier to travel from the US to Ireland and find very distant relatives. My 2x great grandparents came through Ellis Island from Connaught in the mid-1800s and settled in Northeast Pennsylvania where we all still are -- Conlin, Gillespie, Maloney, Dunlavey... we're very Irish!
@DLM440
@DLM440 Год назад
You should try to come to Ireland. Especially travel Connaught- it’s fabulous this time of year. 💚
@davidpryle3935
@davidpryle3935 Год назад
Your ancestors probably landed straight on the dock. Ellis island didn’t open until the 1890s. I hope you make it to Ireland in the not too distant future.
@JC-gm3zs
@JC-gm3zs Год назад
@@DLM440 The name of the province is Connacht, not the Connaught. The British left 100 years ago.
@DLM440
@DLM440 Год назад
@@JC-gm3zs 🙄
@Chilavertish
@Chilavertish Год назад
@@JC-gm3zs chill out ffs
@breenwalshe7667
@breenwalshe7667 Год назад
Always liked Lee Mack,now I no why,he's one of our own..................
@raymonddixon7603
@raymonddixon7603 Год назад
Ye I always he had a hint of Irish in his humour.
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 Год назад
Oh no he’s not he’s one of ours at least half of him is.
@raymonddixon7603
@raymonddixon7603 Год назад
@@paulbromley6687 A very, very funny man anyway.😄😄
@Supreme_321
@Supreme_321 Год назад
Here we go... 🤦🏻 One side of his family and only one great, great, great etc grandparent. So bugger all Irish blood in him.
@Supreme_321
@Supreme_321 Год назад
@@paulbromley6687 Probably about 1/96th or sumat irrelevant like that 😂
@eoinmaguire6691
@eoinmaguire6691 Год назад
The civil war had repurcussions 4 yrs to follow up until the 1980ees my great uncle fought with Michael Collins he died aged 94 in 1989 and he only talked very little about it like many of those great men and women who fought for our freedom but they brought an awful amount of pain and suffering to there graves...May they all rest in peace 🙏🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@nacekozo
@nacekozo Год назад
Exactly the same here, and the family splits still persist. My grandmother had 9 brothers and sisters, one brother was allegedly very close to Michael Collins, and another was allegedly 'on the British side' - I'm the only one who has tried to find out nore, but if I attempt to dig any further about that brother, I've always been met with silence, or even hostility. Probably not surprising, but I'm not sure of the truth in it.
@eoinmaguire6691
@eoinmaguire6691 Год назад
@@nacekozo If you keep digging you'll only end up in Australia so just let sleeping dogs lie, I learnt that along time pal👍
@davew4998
@davew4998 Год назад
@@eoinmaguire6691 Ah yes, there are lots of people of Irish ancestry in Australia.
@eoinmaguire6691
@eoinmaguire6691 Год назад
@@davew4998 Never knew that's news 2 me😜👍
@Drifty40
@Drifty40 Год назад
@@eoinmaguire6691 Ruling America for decades aswell, when surely they should be returning North America to the indigenous natives, similar to what they demand in Ireland.
@dublinsfaircity
@dublinsfaircity Год назад
I think if you dig a little deeper into Lee Mack's Mayo roots he's probably related to Buzz from Hardy Bucks 😄
@JHatLpool
@JHatLpool Год назад
A really great piece of film.
@phil2003ashleigh
@phil2003ashleigh Год назад
Loved to have listened to Lee at the proclamation !
@TheBenzer9
@TheBenzer9 Год назад
Lee Mack one very funny bloke 🤣
@johndonohoe6764
@johndonohoe6764 Год назад
You have to tell me where it is as well, it's not a quiz!
@gerardmccartney3186
@gerardmccartney3186 Год назад
Ballina. He reads his GG grandfather's location from the record and that his Grandfather was 12 when the house in Ballina was shot at. Ballina is in Mayo
@59jalex
@59jalex Год назад
Like Lee, I was waiting for a direction to the street 🙂
@katharina...
@katharina... Год назад
Ha ha, very recently I had a similar interaction with a wee German girl, here in Ireland. We were passing each other by and she asked: Do you have time? And I said: Yes, I do. To which she said nothing, and just waited, so I said: What for? 😁 I wanted the earth to swallow me whole when she said her dad had left his phone at home and they had no idea what time it was! 😁
@bluesmaster9896
@bluesmaster9896 Год назад
haha .I t was really Irish .But if you think about it ,he never asked where it was.
@nancybingham7298
@nancybingham7298 Год назад
Good program.
@annied9864
@annied9864 Год назад
Watch “The Wind That Shook The Barley”
@simonmc78
@simonmc78 Год назад
The wind that shakes the barley.
@annied9864
@annied9864 Год назад
@@simonmc78 Regional dialect Officer 👮‍♀️
@bentuber1
@bentuber1 Год назад
Lee should be honoured to have met Dermot. And I'm sure he was.
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth Год назад
Diarmuid
@jamesrichards3842
@jamesrichards3842 Год назад
Regime historian
@paulgorman1305
@paulgorman1305 Год назад
@@jamesrichards3842 no not just a regime historian, a historian off all Irish history
@karlbrowall5832
@karlbrowall5832 Год назад
What happened to Delia in Canada????
@shanelycnh2255
@shanelycnh2255 Год назад
Lee and the lad he was asking for directions from are the head off each other
@daviddrew7852
@daviddrew7852 Год назад
Interesting that. I think it shes some light on Lee's wicked sense of humour, too. It's in the blood.
@MachineThatCreates
@MachineThatCreates Год назад
An Irishman selling sly grog...just doesn't make sense.
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 9 месяцев назад
“Drink is the curse of this country: it makes you quarrel with your landlord, it makes you shoot at him, and worse, it makes you miss.”
@harbourdogNL
@harbourdogNL Год назад
Ballina and Kilmoremoy...that's where my Gran's people came from before her grandfather ended up in Liverpool! Rogan, Feeney, and Ruane were the family names then...Rogan was anglicised to Regan in Liverpool.
@JC-gm3zs
@JC-gm3zs Год назад
Where did you get that nonsense from? From Wikipedia: "The O'Regans of Meath were a branch of the southern Ui Neill and one of the four Tribes of Tara. Before the Anglo-Norman invasion, they were lords of south Breagh and the north of present-day County Dublin."
@jackthelad5366
@jackthelad5366 Год назад
Regan is definitely an irish name as is rogan
@Drifty40
@Drifty40 Год назад
It seems the Irish can't get out of Ireland quick enough.
@jackthelad5366
@jackthelad5366 Год назад
@@Drifty40 div
@Drifty40
@Drifty40 Год назад
@@jackthelad5366 div............ersity. ? div.............ide ? div.............ine ? div ...........erge ? Are there any stories of Irish who actually stayed in Ireland......or is it just about the millions who moved to the UK, Australia or America, but still claim to be "Irish".
@trishaprett7721
@trishaprett7721 Год назад
I have always thought Lee Mack,had Irish Banter.
@dannymcintyre3819
@dannymcintyre3819 Год назад
No he's English, from North of England.
@Irish780
@Irish780 Год назад
@@dannymcintyre3819 he was talking about his banter ..... not his nationality
@JonathanReynolds1
@JonathanReynolds1 Год назад
That’s the Irish blarney !!
@weneverstop.4640
@weneverstop.4640 Год назад
@@dannymcintyre3819 he gets his humour or craic from his Irish ansestors. Well done lee u have Irish blood in you 😂💚🇮🇪
@dannymcintyre3819
@dannymcintyre3819 Год назад
@@Irish780 his crack is from the north of England
@katharina...
@katharina... Год назад
6:07 Goodness, is this Grafton Street?
@smith5796
@smith5796 Год назад
Yes.
@aspenade
@aspenade Год назад
It is, think its a Getty image of a group of IRA men at the bottom of Grafton Street.
@paulgalligan1916
@paulgalligan1916 Год назад
Tis
@user-hm8wf2jf1h
@user-hm8wf2jf1h Год назад
Yes
@barryohara2099
@barryohara2099 Год назад
God we still have (shebeen) in glasgow eastend at parkhead .but its run by orangeman not fenien .. so I don't go there even tho anyone is welcome if from eastend and old Alfie runs it knows not copper lol
@ainekearney9041
@ainekearney9041 6 месяцев назад
Is every british person in showbusiness of irish decend.
@JakeSpeed69
@JakeSpeed69 Год назад
I thought we were French, turns out we are more English than the Queen 👸 but I guess so are the majority of people.
@thesunrising4982
@thesunrising4982 Год назад
Keep sbs hands above water It's a hefty fine
@proinseasokiellig4388
@proinseasokiellig4388 Год назад
Erm..the civil war was'nt just about swearing allegiance, the Brits kept 1/3 of the country...
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 Год назад
Automatic dogs?
@johncahalane7327
@johncahalane7327 Год назад
Of course this area is now famous in April 2023 for the visit of another famous emigrant, Joseph R Biden 46th President of the United States of America 🇺🇸 who's people came from the same place.
@lindahughes4409
@lindahughes4409 Год назад
Dev was a coward
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 Год назад
Do you mean Eamon ?
@JHatLpool
@JHatLpool Год назад
Whether he was or was not, only matters for the history books. The fact that Ireland became an independent republic in the end, that is what matters.
@dontmesswithcrows
@dontmesswithcrows Год назад
@@JHatLpool We abandoned our own in the Six Counties, and left them suffer under the rule of Britain, supported by sectarian bigots that is still continuing. So no, it's not what matters.
@JHatLpool
@JHatLpool Год назад
@@dontmesswithcrows OK. I hear you.
@jimmyburkeirishgoodfella5720
@@dontmesswithcrows amen brother 🙏🏼 TÁL 🇮🇪 26+6=1
@barryohara2099
@barryohara2099 Год назад
Well name ..O'HARA IS BIG FENIEN REPUBLICAN NAME THATS INTRENCHED IN TROUBLES OF MY MOTHELAND ... MY ANCESTORS MOVED SCOTLAND DURING WW2 .. BUT OHARA IS GREAT REPUBLICAN ANCESTOR NAME .. IM SO PROUD MY FENIEN BACKGROUND (AND I CAN CALL MYSELF FENIEN) BUT NOT BE OFFENDED AT IT ..
@anthonyoneill9053
@anthonyoneill9053 Год назад
Be ok if you could spell FENIAN properly
@garechmurphy6348
@garechmurphy6348 Год назад
@@anthonyoneill9053 Or Motherland,or entrenched.
@mcm0324
@mcm0324 Год назад
Why are you screaming?
@mrsuperger5429
@mrsuperger5429 Год назад
Independence was the worst thing to ever happen to Southern Ireland. That's Lee's grandfather headed to the homeland of the UK says it all.
@fenrissalba7329
@fenrissalba7329 Год назад
West Britain.
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 Год назад
'Southern Ireland' LOL
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 Год назад
How do you explain the fact that Irish people in their millions had to emigrate prior to independence? LOL
@mrsuperger5429
@mrsuperger5429 Год назад
@@lasigh3883 You prove my point for me. Independence was a fool's errand.
@lasigh3883
@lasigh3883 Год назад
@@mrsuperger5429How do I prove your point? Be specific. A 'fool's errand' how? No? Yet more deafening silence, right? LOL
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