Lee's new "M" style expanders 

I just got a couple of these in the mail from Lee: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hdmTi4ITv3E.htmlsi=nDQCkU3dG1EfXm8g

Walter - Ohhh, my..!! After all these decades, Lee finally did the two step..!! I'll just have to mosey over to Lee and phone in some orders. Thanks for passing on this good news...the new reloaders coming into the sports shooting scene won't know what they've missed out on.... Best Regards, Steve.

Great information, Walter! This will help MANY of us!

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Good job Lee. After I also researched this years ago, and I came to the same conclusion, and bought Lymans "M" dies or sets for all my pistol dies. So Lee must be listening to cast bullet reloaders, I know many have long been less than happy with the old die. Great video Walter and thanks for the screenshot.

Thank you Walter for this valuable information. That's good news for us casters and reloaders.

NOE makes M style powder thru expander plugs for the Lee powder thru dies. I've been using them for about 3 months now and they work great, glad to see Lee finally get with the game!!

Very informative video Walter, thank you. Subscribed, bell rang, commented, liked, upvoted, shared ... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel, Amigo.

Awesome video Walter and thank you for sharing this with us.

Good video Walter. Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸

That’s great! I will order a new plug for my expander die. Thank you.

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Yes, it's hard to make one expander for all bullet types. I find the original expander over expands the case for plated bullets. So, I bought an extra one and reduced it a bit to save on case mouth cracks. If you are using the funnel adapter you can adjust the flare, but with the case activated powder measures, getting the full stroke will over flare.

Great reporting from the WNN. (Walter News Network) That reporter deserves a raise.

Hey Walter…a BIG THANK YOU for posting this video with the screenshot 👍🤘👍🤘👍🤘!

Great news! Thank you for the report.

Yep, I was exchanging emails with Tammy at Lee Tech support about this yesterday and today. They said that they are in the midst of changing over to this new style expander plug. I was really happy to hear that news! Also a heads up... if you using the older(longer die body) 357 Mag powder through die the new style expander plugs will not work, you have to order a new die because the new 38/357 powder though die are shorter then the old die bodies so they can do both 38 Special and 357 Mag.

Glad you can buy just the plugs but I’m not paying the crazy shipping rates direct from lee. They wanted $11 to ship me the paper instructions that come with the die box. I don’t think so.

Its about time! ❤❤

vert interesting walter, will have to keep an eye out for them great video

Walter enjoyed the video. Thanks for the heads up.

thanks Walter for sharing this info....

A little bit of investigative reporting from Viejo!

Good information!

The M from Lyman has nothing to do with the step on the expander. In their early diagrams showing the parts of their dies they used letters to indicate the parts. The letter M was used to indicate the expander. That is where the M in M type expanders came from.

Morning Walter that’s awesome thanks for sharing

Good to see this. I actually never had a problem with the Lee expander until I bought RCBS dies 😂.

awesome!

Excellent news, Walter. Look at the views this one got. Congrats, Buddy.

Good news, problem is I have already changed all my Lee expander dies to the lyman M die. I will have to try one of the new Lee expanders, once they make them more available. Thanks for the update, Walter

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Ok you have a second video. Thanks.

These are for the powder through expander dies correct? Noe has been making M Style expanders to work in the universal expander die for a few years now. The make them in most any size you need. You can even get them in various diameters for the caliber. This way you can experiment with different expander sizes to change case neck tension. Some cartridges, depending on the actual barrel specs use different bullet diameters. With different diameter plugs you can experiment to find which size works best with what diameter bullets you use. A couple of examples are the 303 British and the 7.62x54R Russian. Depending on the barrel you can need bullets from .308 up to .312. these are all jacketed bullet sizes. Cast can be even bigger. Up to .314 or so. In my 7.62x54R I use bullets of about .311 for jacketed and .314 or .315 for cast. Another are Marlin lever guns. Using standards for caliber work ok with jacketed but cast need larger. In my 1894 most any jacketed of .429 or .430 works fine, cast needs to be .433 or a bit more depending on the bullet design. So being able to buy various expander plugs at reasonable price makes have several sizes for each caliber makes sense.

Being an old school type, I was never a fan of Lee's stuff. I have many older Lyman and a few RCBS dies that, in my opinion, are far superior. I had bought a set of 45 Colt dies by Lee, and cannot stand the powder through expansion die. Further the seating die has an awful seating stem. I had bought this set to replace my old set of Lyman AA which I've used for decades. This was to replace the sizing die that was non-carbide. So I simply use the Lee carbide sizer, and the rest I use my old Lyman dies. I suppose I'm just the proverbial old dog that doesn't care to learn new tricks. 😅

I have 7 on the list... on to part 2

I just want the PTX inserts. I am guessing they will show up on their what is new web page when they are confirmed. This opens a hole on my (4) die turret.

Definitely looks like a lot better way than just belling out the case mouth for cast. Next time I need a new caliber I’ll have to try one, but I sure don’t wanna have to switch out all my sets out when they still work. Just not as efficient unfortunately, the M die sure looks slick.

Walter, if you powder coat your cast bu llets you should resize them then reload it!

Great info Sir, I missed this one. Lee annoys me that they don't change part numbers or show revisions when they update their items.

Hopefully they'll do rifle calibers soon also

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I have trouble with Berry’s 300 BO bullets. I might get myself an expander for it

CW showed it a few days ago

I'll be curious to know how good the new expander plug works with the autodrum.

Lee FINALLY comes thru. 👍🦶🪶😁

I may have talked to the same person at Lee thats who i got the neck expander stems from

I'm betting he doesn't size the lead bullets, or he sizes them after he powder coats them. All my sized lead bullets work just fine.

Easier fix would be to put MORE flare on the case. You know screw the die in more. SMDH

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So I'm guessing you don't actually have one of the newer plugs. I say that because if you do, did, why didn't you actually show the difference.

I emailed and will find out if it is possible to order the new part for 9mm. When I get a response I will post back here

Does anyone know why there is a shortage of lee loadmaster shell plates?

It because of the Polymer on the bullet

Oversize cast bullets? Why? What about bullet sizing? Got a Lyman Lube sizer, and a simple Lee bullet sizer, no issues loading cast bullets with the old dies for 40 yrs

Good stuff, should make things better

Why aren't you sizing your cast bullets before you load them?

Good video Walter, personally I'm done with Lee

Light on press almost too bright for video

well done thank you in qld. aust.

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