Although Lebniz wasn’t remembered for writing elegant dialogues like Plato, Hume & Berkeley, I find your Socratic Dialogic style very fitting for discussions.
it’s all mental. all of the conversations are great, but truly they are only about illustrations and ways of explaining what already goes on in your mind!
1:11:00 looks like Neal stephenson’s baroque cycle might kinda fit the bill for a “da Vinci code” type book about Leibniz. I haven’t read it but stumbled upon it on Wikipedia.
Okay, here's something to throw you into a cycle. A molecule is every one of it's resonance structures at every point in time. But at the same time is not a single one at any point in time. Alexander the great tried finding Unity in Diversity, where University comes from. Well there it is right there, Unity in Diversity in the Community of the Trinity.
I think it is Leibniz's conception of truth as inherence ('praedicatum inest subjecto') that makes it difficult to account for interaction or relational properties, and suggests the idea of predetermined harmony.
Really great discussion. Regarding to Leibniz' religious background, I am somewhat irritated that you consider him perhaps having been a catholic. Leibniz grew up in the protestant heartland of Saxonia (in Bachs own Leipzig) and frankly, there have been not many catholic german philosophers of fame (Brentano) up to Wittgenstein, Heidegger and Schmitt (Schelling at least converted to catholicism as a statement against modernity). Even Heidegger thought it was more appropriate to convert to protestantism as a philosopher (studying protestant texts intensively).
It seems to be a psychological and neuro-biological connection between true reality and illusion, in arguing what is real in regards to forms and Ideas take for instances lycanthropy brought about because of Hypertrichosis. Also, take fore instances when Hindus talk about Atom there talking about Adam but it's about Atoms like we think. The term "clade" can be found
And sometimes it goes alllll the way around... you do not start with mechanical, or any known material substance or expression that might get you any kind of foundation or to support the internal force or drive that you have. Sometimes it is strictly coming from inside, as an Intuition, and all other layers are coming slowly (or way too fast) to support in some way what you have already Intuit as Truth. When you are building in a bottom-up way, the foundation seems stable but you are building over already known things (having science on your side as such), and then going up becomes higher and tougher (moving towards the unknown and the unexplored and unsupported). If you happen to move in a top-down causation, you start with a feeling, and not even a thought... moving to a thought that becomes a theory, your personal theory, moving down you find different pieces that fit or not to this theory. If it has not become a theory yet, but you still have the internal drive to build upon your instincts, you continue until you either get your proof or in case you do not need it you continue your ordinary Life, but in not so ordinary perception. Either way, when brought by an Internal cause... you move the whole world around it until it fits (whatever does not, is being thrown away, but noticed). And all External world that we see must have come from an Inside. Or most likely all external that we observe today must have been once part of an Internal world. and might still be One. Meaning, the distinction between Internal and External falls into the hands of the observer. Once the observer becomes One as indivisible as the Monad, Internal blends with External to the extend of having this feeling of Truth that does not need proof, but has the power of already proven One. Simplest example, I have not yet read the Monadology, but I have already Intuit its content, as already read. Update: 12:34 yes, and you just said that. So, not far from the Truth. Just needs a bit more (Internal) digging (now, that we have All the "self propelling" Force that we need, I call it Love). 👍❤️
The problem is that computations, regardless of what kind, require at least one step to occur, therefore the computation of the Pre-Established Harmony is necessarily prior to the availability of the solution, thus my question remains: How does the computation occur? One solution is to not assume that it is a priori but instead that the computation is co-exact with the action of monads, but this ruins the idea of ab initio determinism.
Well maybe, but the one putatively solving it is not restricted by finitistic considerations and can presumably bring oracle machines, sentences in higher order logic with a countably infinite number of terms (or worse) etc to bear on the problem. So I don't think it's a problem for monadology :)
The thing that most people do not seem to understand is that "evil" is a human concept expressed by a biological, psychological filter. It is irrelevant in the grand unified ever being built mathematical formula that is "God's creation." In other words. Our world is imperfect, because it is meant to strive toward perfection. God tries out all mathematical probabilities and possibilities, and our reality is but one expression of these ineffable potentials. which we appear to be experiencing linearly. God's creation isn't just OUR reality, which we experience as our WORLD. There are nearly infinite worlds, realities, and probabilities simultaenously existing as ours. Evil, is merely a catalyst for lower worlds. It is there to either destroy that which does not grow and evolve, so as to it can be re-configured into something new, or to causate monads, or individuals into evolution, growth, and desire to perfect themselves. Without duality there is no dynamic interaction and no growth, this growth is both on an individual micro level and on a macro, the Whole benefits from experiences and evolution, although we may not realize this with our linear senses and notions of physical existence.
It looks like Leibniz wants to quantify dx/dy. dx being infinitesimal small and not no longer a discrete value that can be divided becomes something else, something imaginary but has the properties within it to induce a rate of change that we perceive as a reality. Monads are possibly a description of a generalization of the concept of speed in a point. Leibniz did not know what caused the change but het new that dx/dy was the only possible way things could change. It is this change that we perceive as a reality created by nomad dx and nomad dy within the concept of Einsteins Space-Time, something Leibniz was not aware of but intuition hinted the existence of it. God 9n his -reception was noting else than the sum of all metafysical forces behind reality. He could not say so because that would be blasphemy.
What fascinates me is just how many pastor/teachers of the Christian faith Gott this idea that this is the best of all possible worlds in spite of the fact that they do not know even 1 Gott |) /\ |\/| |\| 3 |) concept about a monad or Gott Fried's attempt to form mystical mathematical/philosophical system to X-plane the relationship between Gott, the material universe, the spirit/soul essence of plants animals angels mankind & God & his idea of the problem of suffering. I really never understood just where the Leibnitz's theodicial concept of the best of all possible worlds as did Calvin's idea of limited atonement somehow made it damn near into the realm of "THIS IS THE STANDARD OF ORTHODOX THEOLOGY that if you question or deviate from you are either demonstrating that you are an ignorant or naive novice believer or a heretic to be shunned & dis-communicated from the Church. Yet they cant tell you a thing about where such an idea came from or what sort of theological/philisopical thinker dug it up or what kind of theology he even believed. It can be easily PROVEN that this is not the best of all possible worlds simply by pointing out that CANCER was cured 70 years ago by alternate medicine discovered by great men like Harry Hoxey, Max Gerson MD , Royal Raymond Rife MD, but still they are collecting every day money for cancer research based on the orthodox & iatrogenic & dangerous radiation/chemo treatment. There are too many areas of scientific research where they are PAID to SEEK but NOT TO FIND in order to keep the common every day normal individual from ever being exposed to the more elegant solutions to problems of life & death because someone wants us to be fighting more over politics than finding solutions to the problems of human healing existence longevity & resources.
How can mind can act on a body... Even the monocelular organisms have a specific tendancy to do things and that is a tendancy to continue to exist, in some way to resist to the changes that by physical laws are doomed to change to a universal system of lower entropy. In other words our genes want to live and in order to do so they try not to change in a lower entropy system. Excuse my english , i hope you understand what i am trying to say.
alfred key The last section of the Discourse on Metaphysics: "Jesus Christ has revealed to men the mystery and admirable laws of the kingdom of heaven and the greatness of the supreme happiness that God prepares for those who love him."
@@Monadshavenowindows Do you think the politics at the time required all these nerds to praise God so that they can be published and not banned? Surely that excerpt reads like a non sequitur.
Liebniz error is one of cognitive dissonance, he worked through and within a biblical tradition (kabbalah included), divorced from the notion of eschatology. He replaced the native eschatological view with a perfect chain of being. In other words liebniz's eschatology (as are some of his contemporary part-Christian part-diests) was based here, not in an after life of sorts. But a rigorous and original thinker for sure!
