Leica D-Lux 8: A Close Encounter with the 'Baby Q' 

Thanks for watching and the kind words

That's what the D-Lux cameras always were... They're not "pure" Leicas

Urus is a rebadged Q8 so does Bentayga and Cayenne. Rebadging isnt something new lmao.

Re-badged is fine , but a Re-badged 6 year old camera is another, it was fine for an iteration or 2 , but , it's too much at this point. And that's not taking in to acount that there were little changes between lx100 - to LX 100 II so it's maybe even 10 year old internals . time to re-vamp

Yes and nothing real has changed outside looks. Same sensor, same lens.

@@LOLA6ifyable Just being able to buy a zoom compact camera new rather than secondhand is a rare thing nowadays and without downgraded spec. Don't knock it when one company is still trying or there will will just be nothing at all. Panasonic are not interested for sure. Top marks to Leica for at least trying. I really doubt anyone is producing these smaller sensors not designed to be in phone modules or able to spend a penny on a radical body redesign of what is already there. I have a Canon SX70 super zoom which in many ways has lost features over previous models but at least it was still available. Nowadays a downgrade in features in compact models is more likely. Just look at the more compact Fuji rangefinder models from the X-E1 onwards and the models were cut back up to the X-E4 and seemingly altogether disappeared now. There is just no money in cameras and it is a miracle so many companies are still in the game.

I agree, but i hoped for a tilt screen.

lumix s9 is a joke, I was excited at first, but closer look at its specs wiped all interest in it

Yes not sure what Panasonic was thinking on some of the specs of lack of features. Also had high hopes

If the pricing is a bit cheaper then it will be more acceptable. For that price I would say consider Sony, Nikon or even sigma

This is a really old and inferior sensor though. The Panasonic one is a lot better.

One of those questions was answered in the video:)

No the zoom isn’t manual. Can’t comment on performance just yet. Sorry

It’s beautiful in person

From what I've read today, I'll be staying with my DL7. Certainly not worth upgrading from the current specs.

@@rosvw3517 makes sense. I wonder if they at lease upgraded the sensor or EVF. They're being very vague on detailed specs on their website.

Thanks for watching

Thank you 🙏 more to come on this in July

Yeah the D-Lux has always been about compactness and integrated lenses. Always good to hope though for something like that

I wonder why they shut down APS-C.

@@victoriankambe3070 perhaps the market isn’t there for them. With R&D and costs maybe it just made sense to stick with Full Frame?

I can’t comment on performance. Apologies

@@btonelli no problem. I'll just wait for your formal review.

Yep

Yes I think people expected more but let’s see the results

Thanks!!

I got the 50 1.2 back and the Lumix but I don’t have access to the 50 1.4 currently

Yes hence why I said it’s more like a Q2 and Q :) Yes sometimes the alliance intrigues me on how they work together but also how separate they are at times.

Yes you are right... I mentioned the Q3 screen to figure out why they didn't think about making the D-Lux 8 screen tilting as well. This is an interesting compact and the mini Q design is awesome. Just make it a little bigger for the screen and the full M43 sensor behind the lens. The alliance probably needs to sit down and defines who does what to conquer more segments of the market... sport cameras, hybrid video photo cameras, vloggers cameras, videos centric cameras, luxury cameras. Sigma needs to stop being weird with their design. Panasonic was a big innovater, other makers are kind copying their innovations now. The ozo audio system was a great idea but the G100 did not have IBIS and headphones jacks or pdaf sensor. The alliance is sleeping. Sigma is ok being a lens maker, Leica is selling luxury products, but what's happening with Panasonic?

@@pgulysse1 good question on the alliance aspect. Honestly I’m not sure. I think with this enhanced L2 alliance with Leica and Panasonic we won’t be seeing much overlap between the two companies when it comes to cameras. This was a problem I feel with the S1R and SL2. The S1R had more features, similar specs at a third of the price. This affected the SL2 for sure. Of course some buyers will only want Leica so there is that part of it, but the general consumer will look at the less expensive option. Also Panasonic launched the S series of cameras too expensive with minimal lenses. Hard ask for many to explore the L mount with only a few options to choose from. As for Sigma, lenses they are really doing some good stuff

Can’t go into specs at this point in time. Sorry

Thanks for watching. I can only speak to my knowledge from Leica. They did not want a full review or in depth preview until the camera goes on sale in July. As some firmware isn’t final and not all the details are available. So for many of these channels it doesn’t really do much for them. I had the camera for testing and asked if I can do a preview video and was told I can but please don’t disclose any additional info that isn’t in the press release as per Leica’s request. Some channels decided to just say whatever and well that’s their decision. Mine is to adhere to NDA’s

Really??? Wow!

Haha there were some higher than normal expectations for this camera that when announced didn’t hit the expectations mark, but there is some info that people don’t know yet that I can’t say. I like this more than I thought I would especially with the flash :)

Can’t say too much for now

@@btonelli 🤭

The LX100 is a solid camera. This is definitely a well made camera. Really like the build and design. I too wish I could own every camera haha Thanks for watching

Still a solid camera

Yes there seems to be a lot of interest. I think this push for smaller full featured cameras is really taking off. Also timing was quite good with the release of the S9 the day before.

That would be cool but not sure how many would buy that

It’s effectively 17MP but it’s a 21MP sensor. Could be due to the lens limitations on the sensor

yep. literally a rebadged lx100

Just get a old LUMIX LX100 which this camera is based off of and save $1000

@@franky3fingers337 It looks like the LX100 is no longer sold by Panasonic. I checked.

I suspect you will miss your Fujifilm X100S, sure I do. I have had not a LX100 nor the Leica version (I understand raw's are the same), but I had a Fujifilm X100S and comparing the photos with photos taken with the Panasonic/Leica the latter feels closer to small sensor point and shoots than to the output from m43 cameras, probably because the zoom lens is digitally corrected rather than optically corrected. The size of the LX100 (I saw one physically) isn't that far away from the Fujifilm X100S, and its short zoom gets dust, which happens when the lens has to move, it happens to my Sigma DP2, to my point and shoots with zoom lenses, but not to my Fujifilm X100S. I am not trying to convince you, rather I am a bit puzzled by your choice as I don't see any advantage, not even artistically as I recall even reviewers of the first Panasonic LX100 said that they had more fun with the small sensor Fujifilm X30.

@@ReinoldFZ Thank you for the advice. To be completely open, my first choice is a Leica Q, which I think is more inline with what I want to do, what I have done with my X100S. Now I hit a snag when I looked for a Q; even those are more expensive than a brand new 100VI. The Q3 is unavailable and when I saw the possibility to get a D-Lux 8, then I jumped at the opportunity. As I am typing this, I have feelers for a used Q at a decent price. I am very opinionated as to what should be the price of used goods, and certainly not above that of a new product. I could always get a D-Lux 8 in the meantime, and if I don't like it, I can sell it. At least, I will get one. The 100S struggle a lot in terms of dynamic range. I live in Texas, and we have those crazy weather events. I would also favor a full frame sensor, if given the opportunity. I know, the D-Lux 8 is not.

@@p6x2 good luck! I live in Peru, in the desert. I love the colors but the dynamic range indeed suffers, I bracket the exposure when needed and merge the JPEGs in Affinity Photo using the Focus Stack option, it gets the photo with an increased dynamic range without looking HDR. Said that indeed a better investment would be a camera more capable in dynamic range and not editing at all.

Yes. Thanks for watching.

Wonderful!!!

No. Please look at the port again, it’s using a Micro USB Port, not USB-C

Not sure. Camera was just announced

Yes so far I think so. I think the whole interchangeable aspect would be a bit more expensive in terms of lens designs, mounts etc.

@@btonelli the best part of this for me is it supports DNG. I use M and Ricoh which are both DNG format so this would be a nice convenient thing for me. Also, the threaded shutter is just a very small thing but I love it for the feel of operation

The Lumix GX9 is probably what you want. I have one paired with the 15mmf/1.7. Works great.

@@chrishuang8763 I actually have a GX80. It’s a little beast and still gets used regularly.

@@btonelli Not sure how an interchangeable lens would be more expensive seeing that it wouldn't include the lens..... Anyways it's probably not going to happen since Leica have never released a M4/3 interchangeable camera and I don't see that changing

Don’t have that info. More will be discussed after July

Can’t go into details yet but I think some info has leaked online.

Thanks for watching. Not engraved

Hi. Unfortunately I’m not able to comment on performance and features above what is in the video at this time.

Yes I have but I can only comment on image quality and performance closer to launch.

@@btonelli arhh OK....embargo till launch 👍👍😀 Any hints....are you impressed 🤔🤔

Looking forward to trying it more

and stil no PDAF...

@@renessda5519 performance will only be discussed at a later date

Thanks for watching. Can’t get into anymore specs at this time. I’ll also have a link to B&H photo as well for those that are interested

@@btonelli Thank you for having a B&H link to this camera once it goes live. I'm looking forward to your full review!!

Thanks for watching!

I have a pre-production model for early review. I only have it for a short time.

USB-C

Not able to comment on performance at this time

Thanks!

I agree. Smaller more powerful cameras is a good thing

Thanks for watching

Honest Question: did the D-Lux series ever have “Leica Camera Wetzlar Germany” on it before? From my understanding (and I can be wrong here) Leica doesn’t put that on any camera. Perhaps there is more to this camera than just calling it a Panasonic in Leica clothing. And the truth is I honestly don’t know at this point in time due to limited info. But food for thought

I hope not... surely it will have phase detect AF...

Same here. This was never on my radar till I tried it

@@btonelli- I get why people diss Leica but the brand expectation is so high I doubt they will release anything less than exceptional. Looking forward to the full review. Cheers.

@@davesaunders59 thanks Dave. There will always be those that like or dislike for whatever reason. Leica makes good cameras and has a strong history to back them up.

Good point. The LX100 II zoom has ADHD. Jittery. Nevous. Jumps around a notch with the slightest touch. Slow. Here was a chance to improve things by going manual on the zoom.

@@richardbresden8474 I can’t talk about performance yet. More will come in July

All this will be covered in the full review

No. It goes down to f2.8 as you zoom.

It says Leica on it.

@@carlosmcse LOL, well, ok sure. You know what I mean :-)

Can’t comment on details until July

Thanks 🙏 love this mic

it appears to have the new 25 megapixel sensor in it, but shows as 22 due to the multi aspect ratio

I had the Panasonic version of the 7 and I would agree with the comment- it does seem like the 7 with the skin of a Q and shooting in DNG. If so, I don’t see the point of it.

There is more to it but can’t comment on details as of now

@@ericrjennings 17MPix from 21Mpix so NO

@@costagf as I read they are mistaken on the 21MP sensor? They can’t verify yet if its really 21MP or some like that idk

It’s around 24-75 equivalent f1.7 -2.8

@@btonelli thx, 24mm is too standard

Apologies I can’t get into details till July

Can’t disclose yet

Agree!

I’ve had good success with the app

He might be comparing it with fuji's app😂

@@kaiyinchung6727 i think Fuji is more reliable. At least when I use it with my GFX 50s mk2 i had no issues.. leica app is always a hail mary.

@@Reddotshutter yeah... but still miles behind sony or nikon, or maybe is just because of my XPro 3 (transfer photos from camera to phone / tablet via app just take so.... slow )

Fuji’s app is not as good as the Fotos app.

exactly!

Hmm I wouldn’t make too many assumptions just yet. More to come in July

Hi! I’m sorry I can’t disclose any particular info until July. It feels good in the hands though!

More info to come closer to launch

HmmI wish I could say more but need to wait 😊

The flash is cool!

I can't agree with you, inasmuch as the Fuji XT50 is a far better equipped camera from the Leica specs we've seen today and not much more money. I'll be keeping my DL7 that I like and probably picking up the XT50. I've held off buying the Fuji until Leica announced this one, but good grief, underwhelming is the only word I can come up with for this "upgrade."

Yes that was about surprising on the S9

Thanks. I’m extremely limited on what I can discuss. Btw awesome vid on the S9!

Depends on your needs. All watches tell time, but people pay more for a Patek or AP than a Seiko :)

@@btonelliYou forgot to mention Grand Seiko Bobby 😊

Can see in the video :)