Lenovo is Chinese. Why aren't they sanctioned? 

I thought it was Japanese like Epson. Even my laptop is an ideapad

I literally own a Lenovo laptop and I did not even *think* it was a Chinese brand. I've owned Realme and Xiaomi phones, and handled Huawei laptops, and I can assure you, no matter how subtle it is, Chinese products have their own "style" of designing their UI, whether through design choices or the custom software they add. Lenovo really feels like it was designed in the US or something.

That is disappointing to hear 😒 shocking that none of you knew

@@nehcooahnait7827 who gives a fuck. As TechAltar said,it's better people don't know they are Chinese cause then people might be more apprehensive in buying their products

It’s headquarters is in Hong Kong

Used to own...IBM divested completely in 2011

ThinkPads are still made in the US. Thinkbooks are Chinese made. That rule is slowly fading after pandemic tho unfortunately

@@kennwin Hmm, not sure on that one. EMEA ThinkPads have been manufactured in China since at least 2005!

@@johnroberts2905 ooh i believe you’re right but they switched in 2012 apparently. This is what it says on newegg. “Lenovo also assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.”

He said legend is largest shareholder at 35% so IBM can't be 45% obviously

Also of note, the mention of them being a "systems integrator" rather than manufacturer was directly inherited from IBM. This was IBM's whole strategy for their desktop and notebook computers from the beginning, to buy products off the market and simply 'assemble' them rather than manufacturing _any part_ of their systems. It's how Microsoft (and by extension, Bill Gates) ended up creating something as core as their OS.

Wow that is new info...would have never have guessed

Really? Source?

@@zeeninetynine sorry, I’ve been in this business for 30 years and this is very old news. I’m not going to look it up now. You can do your own research or choose to believe which you want. I’m simply stating facts.

@@zeeninetynine by the way, I did a quick search of who originally manufactured the IBM ThinkPad. There were dozens of links the fact that you couldn’t even bother to do such a simple search before resorting to asking me. My source shows me a laziness on your part that isn’t even worth addressing beyond this statement, I would actually make one other comment. Consider learning to do a little bit of basic research rather than just being argumentative.

So then Lenovo ThinkPad is equivalent to a Foxconn iPhone

Trash. You just make the simple components and assemble. Chips are not made in China. The actual capable components

IBM sold its hardware business to the Chinese after the GFC. Earlier it used to be IBM Thinkpad.

​@@terryjones9784As far as I know, Lenovo's laptops in China are OEMed by Taiwan's Compal.

What is the sales tax rate for computers in China? Remember that US prices don't include sales tax, prices in just about every other country in the world do.

@@katrinabryce If I remember correctly, computers and most other electronics have a tax rate of 10% in china, which is included in the price.

Lenovo shouldn't care about how they do in PRC, because Communazi PRC has no future.

​@@tazdingo5297 if US government keep zero-sum game in its mind. and try to use Taiwan as a tool to bargain with China. then sadly YES. what US not understand is that Taiwan problem is not only about land and economic interests it is about the legitimacy of the government who rules China. it is one of the sign of the past century of humiliation no matter whitch party is in charge of China. it won't dare to lose it, or it will face the fury of it's ppl.

@Tazdingo Well average Chinese has little to no political powers, whereas Chinese elites including Xi himself has families and capitals all over the West. As long as the West commit to protect Taiwan, China is nothing but a "paper tiger".

Well hp is often overpriced, all my friends that uses dell and asus seems to always have problems, and acer is... acer.

well you said it, you work in Europe, they do not serve every US interest out there, pcs can be chinese, korean or from wherever.

And remember what reputation have thinkpads here.

HP Inc extinction! Hopefully! HP is worst! HP Inc deserve extinction!

I work in IT at a medium size company ~1000 employees, and I can tell you that we love dealing with Lenovo here. Their customer service is superb, any problems that we might encounter in any of their products will be either fixed rapidly or the product will be replaced without them asking a lot of questions. My experience dealing with their customer service is very different from dealing with companies like HP, Toshiba or Dell... That's why if to choose a company to deal with, it will always be Lenovo and that's one of the main reasons that they're so successful

That’s actually what he says at 8:02 No worries tho

​@@anonemoose7777Lenovo is NOT Chinese, 联想。 It's actually IBM computers that a Chinese company bought

​@@dongshengdi773In the end it's owned by chinese company. With all the sinophobia goin on, the question is why so many chinese companies' products selling normally in the US and not Huawei. Because Huawei holds 5G patents that the US wants badly, Trump made no secret he wants to acquire Huawei pre-pandemic. From then on, when Huawei didn't bite, things escalated to how it is today lol, from arresting the CEO of Huawei via Canada to today's trade wars.

what you said is not really true about bank but ok.

I have used asus products, from mobile, gaming laptop, gaming headphones, monitor. The only thing that can be accepted is monitor. Gaming laptop and mobile have so much problems. Headphones dead after 1 year. I bought them because of low price. Next time, I won't buy anything from Asus for sure

​@@pinglunyuan11吹牛逼你也信哈麻皮

i have a lenovo tablet. It sucks. Never had such a worse and slow tablet. Never buy any lenovo again. And now i know that its chinese sure not.

@@jote2275Laptops are good but tablets are bad.

​@@jote2275Lenovo makes poor android tablets but to say nobody should buy their products is a stretch considering they make some of the best workstation hardware for the price on the market

@@jote2275ah you are one of those guys. typical shill

Learn about what passive manegment is

They own a few percent of ZTE as well, and ZTE is not in a great position with sanctions. For BlackRock and Vanguard a singular company going up or down isn't really a focus.

It's only a matter of time I think

As if 5% is really that important. That’s nothing.

​@@abdiganiaden 5% in hardware business is excellent. Those are real asset, product and sure revenue. It is not some social media with inflated value.

Lenovo pcs are 💩💩💩 worst quality

​@@B21_raider dell, hp, lenovo all pre built pc are shit

@@B21_raider no

​@@B21_raider wait for HP plastic case

​@@B21_raider have you not used thinkpad before

And the Legion lineup of gaming laptops (which was founded long after that acquisition, and so was IdeaPad apparently)

Exactly this .then again it would be very dumb on their part to think no one will find out considering the fact it's a Chinese company they've got all eyes on them so if their doing something shady someone will find out and that would be the end

This is technically true, but also very wrong. See the software of Superfish is a rootkit. And Windows Defender will remove it, as it is declared rootkit. The other thing - Superfish is not created by Lenovo, or China. It is US company, founded with capital from Israel. The software is adware. It is an attempt by Lenovo to make more money, like most companies do. It is not some spying operation. The failure made Lenovo use as clean installs as possible. So that Superfish affair actually made Lenovo computers better. They come with less bloatware than machines of other companies.

Intel Management Unit doesn't care about operating system, only your IP address to take over your PC. 😢😢😢😢

​@@mrkitty777 IME is a computer within a computer system, it is required for the system to even operate. No different from BIOS

@@donkey1271 LibreBoot disables Intel Management Unit, they consider Intel Management Unit an exploitable trojan.

this is still 100% relevant today, disguised as security tool with Absolute® for example

@@timfreeeed most hp laptops today expose a fake device to the windows, and windows update pulls drivers for that device, which turns out to be "analytics services".

Yes- the comment about superfish was wildly off-base. The fact they've developed such software which re-installs from the UEFI should be terrifying to any security expert.

@@timfreeeed Nonsense. It's Anti-theft technology from an American company.

@@Madwonk Not only that Lenovo afterwards had at least 2 more similar security scandals with secretly installing rootkits.

Well, they made themselves a legend in my books with the X1 carbon. Absolutely lovely machine!

I work in computer repair, we recommend Lenovo a lot due to it's reliability but I've always been a bit skeptical due to their Chinese ties. Still am, but this video did explain well why Lenovo isn't as much of a threat to privacy and the likes.

@@michaelbauer4065 agreed, yeah I thought it did a great job of covering why it's public image in the tech sphere is so different to other prominent Chinese tech companies

HP Inc extinct! Hopefully

​@@michaelbauer4065 sy😢

@@michaelbauer4065 How about the square charging port?

The answer is actually really simple, it's not targeted/banned YET, because it's not as explosively successful as Huawei (and therefore not as high on the hit list). If/when it does, this guy'll be making another video "why Lenovo is banned by the US".

@@agenthex Hope they're never banned. They make the best computer mice and other peripherals.

Lenovo aka IBM has US backdoors -- Huawei has been confirmed US cannot find a BACKDOOR in.....

Lenovo is a sellout and clearly not a threat to the American hegemony so it's not banned. Who would even impose sanctions on an assembly factory with no technology?

probably more likely they split of their chinese parts

Plus Superfish was only ever on a handful of consumer laptops. Tney wouldn't dare stick it on Enterprise machines as any large enterprise would drop them immediately.

It would probobly not even run on enterprise, as that is 99% GNU/Linux now-a-days.

Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations. President Jimmy Carter - Speech on Relations with China ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-37azeXBjYJc.html Don't be ignorant...🤔

Superfish was on the IdeaPad and YOGA lines (not the thinkpads) and would reinstall itself from the UEFI BIOS which means you can't simply reinstall the OS as the video seems to claim.

The thing is it opens up a big security hole for Chnese bad actors to exploit.

😂😂😂

所以说是美帝良心😅

I guess that is the way it SHOULD be. Business should not be nationalized. Keep politics out.

@@noahway13 Yep. State and Corporation should NEVER mix. Twitter was a warning to the world about how dystopian the merger between state and corporation can get. Lenovo being mostly seperate from the chinese government is good news. I still wish they had third party audits of their products. I love thinkpads to death but if anything, id rather be spied on by the Netherlands, Britain, or America, than I would by China. Atleast the EU isnt stealing my genetic data to make race-based biological weapons, all while enacting litteral nazi-era policies.

Politics always exists and always try to influence people around world, as long as there's 2 groups and more people that's had different goals and interests to others.

And that one thing? It’s called IP theft.

crying about fake shit like IP lmfao

Good Assessment.

China is a threat bud.

What a load of horse shit, US sinophobia exists because US capital interests are threatened by Chinese success, it doesn't matter what their product is, what matters is the the US corporate elite don't have control over it

bingo

This is the correct answer for Lenovo not blacklisted by the U.S.

I also bought a Legion 7i Pro this year and I absolutely love it. The building quality is more solid than other brands' products of this year. I switched over from the HP OMEN laptop by the way, and I have to say that it looks really flimsy and plastic compared to Legion.

great purchase guys

I hate how most of their laptops have the fn key on the bottom rightmost corner instead of ctrl.

@@jasonchan5504 mine hasn’t, it’s with the Ctrl outside the Fn key, I just compared mine with a HP and a Dell, and the Fn and Ctrl keys are placed the same on my Lenovo 🤷🏻‍♂️

The i m thinkpad was already produced in oem by lenovo back in the 90’s

Having refurbished hundreds of computers with a team over 5 years, in my experience rolling out multiple Dell laptops simultaneously using SCCM was generally a fairly painless experience. They actually were the only ones with reliable templates, everything else you had to do on an individual basis.

I was so disappointed in the recent years by ASUS, DELL & HP PCs. It is hard to admit that now Lenovo PCs perform better & look greater. Only Microsoft Surface line can competes with Lenovo PC line in quality & beauty but not the price. 😮‍💨

Trust me that T420 still has some life left in it.

Agreed. Working in Big Blue for 12 yrs, I've come across many of their Thinkpad series laptop. Now I'm in one of the biggest bank in US where they mainly using Dell, I can tell you, if is different. There's no robust feeling in Dell

Superfish exploited a feature of Windows that allowed platform specific software to be installed from a link stored in the BIOS. IIRC There was a workaround that involved creating a dummy file within /WIndows which made it think the software was already installed. They may have removed the Superfish link from later BIOS revisions.

Yeah it's quite obvious when he shills (whether he gets paid or not) for these mainland products (he literally worked for Oppo as a foreign marketer so its been his trade). I don't live in either country but not any trust worthy of the US government or Chinese government eitherway.

Always thought Lenovo at the time got duped into adding the US-Israel program Superfish as a way for the CIA to get access.

install software from a link? What were Microsoft thinking?

An "encrypted" chip? Like ... what? That's nearly as wrong as "encrypted on the motherboard".

Enclave? ohh shit, here we go again

​@@FuntimeByzantium YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM SOLDIER WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR

@@bened22 The chip has a processor and storage. The processor encrypts keys and stores them in the memory. If the hidden serial number of the motherboard and processor match what the chip expects it will also decrypt what is in the storage. All happens on the same chip.

They all should be banned Chinese know this for ages

Thanks for the info, very interesting. I hope our governments don't trick the people into worse situation! Peace is what the greatest majority of us want.

lol great info

I got a p50 from the US. It was cheaper. But it is shitty. Actually, I have three different Thinkpads. I am going to dump the brand.

@@tomchen513wdym thinkpads are great laptops. way better than any other manufacturer.

"Chinese software has backdoors."

Lenovo is 'lesser known'? You must be too young to know any histroty of PC.

@@blitzrumble2956 Also Asus has not "dethroned" Dell or HP. Walk into any office, and tell me how many Asus laptops, or PCs you find.

@@Aaron-ui9tj you are barking on the wrong tree.

@@blitzrumble2956 What ? lol

Fujitsu Lifebook is also still relevant. It's also one of the few that still has a proper docks that links through the laptop bottom instead of over usb-c.

​@Steamrick Never seen Fujitsu laptops 💻 in the UK, I wondered if the brand only sells in Japan

@XieRH1988 one of the worse decisions IBM ever made to sell their consumer electronics division

@@cryptocsguy9282 in the US, they are worked with primarily businesses, schools, medical.... for the most part it has more to do about their docks and security than anything.. well school is more about colleges but i think that is some sort of kickback brother was frustrated his major made him buy a fujitsu laptop when his worked better

@@cryptocsguy9282 I sell laptops in the UK... Fujitsu is a second tier brand here but they have had models in every class for decades from budget to high performance workstation. There was also Toshiba who at one point were the absolute market leaders but they just fell off a cliff. I think the problem for mid-ranking major brands these days is that even the most basic laptop is "good enough" for consumers,so those built to a price will win market share on Price alone and those who need security, multimedia or other performance gains will still feel the need to buy Dell, HP and Mac lenovo have the brand recognition and they beat HP and Dell and Mac on price in their particular pricepoint

It is very good to use this series

"Chinese software has backdoors."

ISN'T IT TELLING... That at the time of the ban on Huawei, Huawei had JUST become NUMBER 1 in WORLDWIDE phone sales charts BEATING APPLE and SAMSUNG... But yet... The reasons given was "security concerns etc etc because they are linked to the CCP". HOWEVER... THERE WAS NO BAN on Oppo, OnePlus, Unihertz, Lenovo/Motorola, TCL, Doogee, Xiaomi (a MASSIVE company making ALL SORTS of electronic devices/gadgets etc), Poco, Vivo, ZTE, Infinix etc etc... WHO ARE ALL Chinese companies THAT HAVE TIES to the CCP (Chinese Govt) in various minor/modicum ways! EVERY COMPANY in China HAS A LINK in various forms to the CCP, it's just Chinas way of doing things! NOTE: Even companies like Temu, iWish and others like them!! Hence you can buy a £/$1 dollar item and get free shipping etc! (There ARE videos explaining this how the online retailers & delivery companies claim moneys back from the Govt etc (there's a link to the USPS too if memory serves) - Check out the 'Serpentza' - 'How the hell can China ship for free to your door??!?' video). So, the question is:- IF there were security concerns about the big company Huawei, then WHY NOT ALSO BAN THE OTHERS TOO (especially Lenovo/Motorola & Xiaomi as they REALLY ARE BIG companies)???? 'Sepentza' channel will show you A LOT of VERY REVEALING information on Chinas strange, deluded and often VILE practices (in general AND to their own peoples!) - like painting trees/crops/pigs, 'Spit fighting' and a whole lot more... 😒 To me, I think it was ALL BULLSH!T !! Huawei were SERIOUSLY INNOVATIVE. Their Camera systems were LEADING the phone manufacturer market (P30 Pro/P40 pro etc etc), look how they are with their foldable tech now, showing Samsung a thing or two!!! Google REALLY WANTED to WORK WITH Huawei (and visa versa), there was BILLIONS lost in the closures/rearrangements in the chip/phone manufacturing/parts supply/delivery/etc processes (TMC and such LOST OUT BIG STYLE with cancelled contracts). And WE... THE CONSUMER... LOST OUT to some SERIOUSLY BRILLIANT INNOVATIVE and CREATIVE products that ALSO WOULD HAVE kept the likes of Apple AND Samsung on their toes, and maybe... Just maybe... MIGHT have kept silly prices from skyrocketing with a HEALTHY competition/possible price war.... The D!CKHEADS in the U.S. Govts REEEEAAAALLLY SCREWED THE POOCH ON THIS ONE!!!! 😠😠😠😡😡😡 😎🇬🇧

because ibm thinkpad

They want to hide it. Just like harbor freight using “Pittsburg” and American industrial names. Its pathetic.

😥 It's too sad.

On 29th January 2014 , Google announced the sale of Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $2.91 billion. motorala was a loss making company earlier and it had an ample amount off carried forward losses. Google used those by setting off the losses with its profit here you have your answer

I was so disappointed in the recent years by ASUS, DELL & HP PCs. It is hard to admit that now Lenovo PCs perform better & look greater. Only Microsoft Surface line can competes with Lenovo PC line in quality & beauty but not the price. 😮‍💨

ThinkPads were reliable but so so so so so so ugly 🤢🤢🤮

​@@duran9664 really? My X1 extreme Is sexy AF! ❤

Too bad theyre owned by CCP china. Was the best laptop to use as linux geeks an alternative to using a mac.

@@duran9664 Lenovo just need to sort the square charging port. Absolute trash

The support for Lenovo products goes true IBM. I know because thats what I do. Lenovo doesnt have its own support stucture (tehnically) for enterprise products , just deckstops. They have Primer and Product engineering but everything else goes true IBM.

I remember in the early 2000s when IBM sold their computer divisions to Lenovo. That was the day we traded our IBM Red Books, for Mao's Red Book.

Here where I live, IBM owns the company that do the support for thinkpads and other brands too. Lenovo customer service is premium, at least the thinkpad division. Dell is a pain!

What altered firmware lol? Not in the CPU. Maybe the BIOS?

@@fanban2926 Yep, its an issue with the BIOS firmware.

The only thing in a CPU I’d worry about is Intel Management Engine and AMDs equivalent.

How do you know, is this thing a secret?

Im American and I noticed the same lol. Lenovo everything. IBM was braindead when it went thru with the whole sale. But in some way, letting their PC business branch off as essentially its own company, was a genius idea.

There's also that they're from Hong Kong, which was politically separate from China until very recently when China decided the majority of representatives are now unelected and chosen by the CCP

​@@My_Old_YT_Account they are never a democracy because they use the same system as the British left them

Because Lenovo is just a brand, they basically do not develop equipment programs, they only buy patented assembled computers and sell them under the brand, their business methods are well known in Chinese

@@My_Old_YT_Account Did we watch the same video ? They're based in Beijing, China, and all of their founders were from a State backed institution, Chinese Academy of the Sciences. They were only ipo'd in Hongkong in order to get easier access to foreign capital.

​@@My_Old_YT_Account Also HK's leaders are not directly chosen (approving candidates is different) by the central government. Never have, probably never will as long as HK has a "border" with Shenzhen. Partial-democracy was only enacted 5 years before the 97 by the British (Out of spite I presume), who had been dictating the territory for a century, half-way around the world. Other than the recent massive reduction in freedom of speech and half of the legislature being voted in by business interests (A British policy), both of which I do not agree with, everything you said is false.

I know from the start , i am surprised too that people do that atleast they should google about it

Shows how much you can trust their opinions. You can't.

😂In our eyes, Lenovo is not considered a high-tech enterprise, only DJI and Huawei can be counted, so the United States wants to ban them

"Chinese software has backdoors."

Because bruh couldn't even read a Wikipedia article...

This video feels like something a Chinese agent would make. The way he handwavingly dismissed and try to downplay and discredit this and the other allegation by the high ranking military officer, is very, very suspicious.

Dell had the same thing to be fair. And superfish is from an Israeli firm; America's ally. All PC companies include bloatware.

@@tvacc6174if anything, this RU-vidr is hella anti china. Yet here you are saying that he’s suspicious

17% tax rebate from your government for exports sales.

We have tried a number of Lenovo devices and they have all been great quality. In the past we have had quality issues with Acer, Apple and even Dell, but have never had an issue with Lenovo. We have monitors, laptops, desktops and tablets and they are always great quality.

Lenovo gaming laptops are some of the best bang for your buck out there

Legion gaming laptops are also very good

I was so disappointed in the recent years by ASUS, DELL & HP PCs. It is hard to admit that now Lenovo PCs perform better & look greater. Only Microsoft Surface line can competes with Lenovo PC line in quality & beauty but not the price. 😮‍💨

@@mrmo3379 I absolutely get it, they can be great but when things go wrong it is clear there is a big difference. For instance, the Thinkpad side will over night pre-paid return postage for your stuff if anything goes wrong but with the other stuff it can be a lot longer. This is not to say Lenovo is bad, just that they have a schizoid kind of state. Seeing as I have nothing but Lenovo laptops, clearly I am not that put off. Still better than almost everyone else.

china?

same bro watching this on my legion laptop too

And you believe the story about spy balloons?

@@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050 Never said anything about the recent balloon incident. Major competitive allies and advisories alike constantly conduct espionage on each other.

Chinese software has backdoors~

@@sungjanedude, see a therapist. You are replying with the same comment over and over again