Unlikely. She passed on reviewing the original steam deck (likely anti Linux bias) in favor of these OEM solutions nobody will be talking about in 18 months
@@derekfurst6233 I didn't review the first Steam Deck because Valve didn't send us a review loaner and I couldn't find one in stock to buy until the content would have been stale. I will be reviewing the OLED model very soon.
@@masszero3521 yes it is. I watched a review and the reviewer said that he spoke to some people at steam and they said that they were working on it. Can’t remember the exact video though
I have a deck, maybe as I am getting older I just couldn’t deal with the screen size. Too small, was always feeling strained, and or holding it super close (ie. Elden Ring etc). This new screen size is great for us Gen X gamers, and as a person with big hands, I don;t mind the size. Plus i usually play on planes or traveling and will use a XBOX elite controller anyway. Deck is going to my son and I am rocking the Go.
is the go powerful enough for games like new assassins creed mirage? warhammer, diablo, etc? Or should I just go for a laptop? I am in a space limited, e350 van as I will be traveling to teach around the country. Wanted something that can game, isnt huge like the desktop my kids built me, can do ms word, excel, watch movies.
Bought my Legion Go, on Launch Day, at MicroCenter, w/ 2Tb Upgrade. It has replaced my Razer Edge WiFi. I fact, I've clocked far more hours on the LGo, between the two, in far shorter, a timespan. I really dig it. I turned the speakers up, using the on-board, Realtek Eq. I flashed my bios, changed VRAM setting, and AMD Drivers, as many Early Adopters, had to. But Lenovo has been front and center, providing updates, and timely news, as well as early access, to adventurous tinkerer. But they are improving the Software, Firmware, and Experience, all the time. I'm rewarding them, appropriately, with my continued faith, in this fun, functional, sturdy Beauty! Don't sleep on the Leon Go. It's going to rule this Handheld Generation, in short order.
Yeah, it's good, better than the Asus ROG Ally imo, because it has a touchpad and two USB-C ports unlike the Ally, but I still think Valve has something special with the Steam Deck OLED. I mean, 2560x1600 is a bit over kill on a screen this small and 1280x800 like on the Steam Deck would be a bit too low resolution; I think 1920x1200 at 120 hz would have been the best choice, especially given most Windows handhelds can't get good battery life and are still more expensive than the Steam Deck, even the OLED model. Plus, Windows 11 still sucks on devices without touchpads or mice.
Objective review that focuses on the important stuff, as usual, nice job Lisa :) It's good to let us know things like you're tall and have long fingers because that kind of thing is hard to tell via video. I, for example, have small hands, and so this Lenovo would definitely be way too big for my liking (I already think the Steam Deck seems a bit big). I'm so excited that handhelds are coming back with a punch, I've been dreaming of being able to play my PC games on a handheld for years!
Hey Lisa! Thanks for the wonderful content as always! Your reviews are truly the creme de la creme of RU-vid! When I see the red dot I truly get excited. I wanted to ask if you are planning to do a review of the OnePlus Open? I would love to get your opinion on it, especially on the cameras compared to the other foldables on the market. P.S., your new hairdo is rocking! Love it.
Would love to see a quantum leap in battery tech. Self regenerating cell or graphine battery, hot swappable battery at least. Everything else is nice, but battery life is something so stale.
If I didn't go for the oled steamdeck I would have, and maybe should have, gone for this one. I do want to get away from full windows but not being full windows is still a liability.
I will be honest it depends on what games you want to play. Seems like games like Call of Duty are getting perma bans on the Ally and other windows handhelds due to the software they have to run to make it handheld friendly. So honestly the limited library isn’t really that big of a deal. This is coming from someone who sold their OG deck, and has had a GPD Win 3, AYANEO 2021 Pro, AOKZOE A1, and ASUS Ally. Some I still have some I don’t, I am grabbing the OLED deck and will more than likely stick to it.
I've been a Playstation gamer for many years now so I haven't bought games on Steam in a long time. Legion Go has native game pass support so that's what's intriguing to me. I don't have a gaming PC either so this would be my way of dipping my toe in it again. Not sure if it's worth it, but I can't stop looking into it. Steamdeck Oled also seems really nice and I like owning games and not having them disappear on me like on a subscription. Tough choice. Then again at home I have my PS5, so is it even needed for the few times I need to game some other place?
I got rid of my steam deck because the screen was too small. I ended up using my laptop, but this is very appealing. It’s a happy medium I’m going to have to give it a shot.
Hi lisa I've been flowing your channal for almost 10 years , I just wanna say thank you for reviewing so many nice devices with such professinal attitude , wish you all the best !
11:51 Has Lenovo mentioned anything about addressing this in the future with their software instead of the user relying on registry edits? I am seriously considering this over the ROG Ally and this problem might just tip the scales in ROG's favor. I like old games and don't want to be doing a ton of registry edits to run them. 13:50 Yep! That's me. The reason I am considering a hand held gaming PC over a Surface tablet is user upgradability/repair and market trends. With tablet pcs never really catching on, APUs getting a firm hold, and handheld gaming PCs taking off, choosing a tablet now seems like a bad choice. Changing out RAM, storage, and battery all seem easier in handheld PCs. And with the gaming community adopting them the secondary support will be there for the more popular devices even if the companies won't be. You just won't have that for what few tablet PC's there are out there. And a device like this COMPLETELY blows Android tablets out of the water as far as capability goes. I am so fed up with Android for tablets at this point that I don't even want to look at any other devices. Will a device like this be perfect? No. But I just use tablets for video and light web browsing. I think when you compare the price of a decent android tablet to the Legion Go or ROG Ally I would be better off choosing a handheld PC. Side note. It's good to see this channel is still around. Watched it a ton several years ago to help me pick a laptop and finding it again for this was a pleasant surprise. Keep up the great work.
I don't understand wanting to lay it down and use detachable controllers. If I have to lay it down to play, I'd much rather have a much more powerful laptop. If they'd made usable gaming trackpads on this thing, it would have been cool, but that trackpad they added is pretty terrible. Almost every game I play I don't want to use a joystick, so the only handheld gaming device which works at all is the Steam Deck.
fps mode is a game changer for me, I love it. I love being able to play gamepass controller style, but also old classic 90s PC RPGs and FPS by propping up the go, then using the FPS mode. That's something I can't do with the steam deck.
What's the point? You could just plug you steam deck into a dock. Everyone has a mouse and keyboard at home so I don't get the advantage of fps mode considering this is a portable. Can you use this on an airplane or bus? If not then it's just a gimmick
Thanks Lisa! This thing is being killed by Windows in daily use. Steam OS is A GODSEND for a handheld gaming console. Painless UI, painless in and out. No Windows quirks. And I'm A Windows guy since 3.1. Nope, not on a handheld. Battery life sucks compared to the Deck. FPS mode is meaningless as I can just carry a small portable Bluetooth mouse. I would love Detachable controller on the Deck but for when I'm docked so I can play with the same controls, that's all.
Nope, not for me. I absolutely hate Linux when I had a steam deck and found it very frustrating. I’ve been a windows user off and on since 1994 and despite it’s obvious quirks, I would choose it any day over Steam OS
@@CandysChannel What exactly were your issues? I have my SD for 2 months now and didnt run into a single issue with SteamOS so far, quite the opposite, it makes the SD far better to use, because everything is so well integrated, especially the overlay menus.
@@xXYannuschXx just my personal preference. Anytime I tried to win a windows program replacement, the Linux version was cumbersome and not good at all. People like different stuff that’s all
I brought this as Microsoft is going to stop supporting Windows 10 on my Intel i7 Mac Mini. And this Legion Go is smaller than my Mac Mini while it is portable and a lot more powerful. I can also use it with all the accessories for my Mac Mini, including the eGPU. In the future, I would like to see lower VRAM setting available so that I can set more RAM for Star Citizen while I plug in my eGPU. As a gaming handheld, I am still getting use to the built-in controllers. Those sticks are very sensitive in comparing with my Xbox controllers.
I really wish Microsoft hadn't hobbled this category by signing an exclusivity deal with Qualcomm for Windows on ARM. Just imagine this with a modern Tegra SoC inside.
Thank you for this review. I love my LLG currently though I do tend to use my 3070 Laptop for heavy gaming, but being that I play so many small games having a nice handheld is great. Some people talk about the size and I get that, but if I -did- want a small device, I'd probably get a pocketable 640x480 gameboy looking thing you can find around.
If have any intent to use as desktop... just get PC or laptop. For same price will get laptop with better specs and software support, accept handheld form factor... with added eGPU cost... will get laptop labeled "GAMING" plus RGB LEDs... or just build proper workstation/gaming rig/media center.
@@mindaugasstankus5943 This argument of "just get a desktop PC" is non-sense. It was used for Laptops that could be desktop replacements and is now being used for handheld PCs. The primary appeal of Laptops over desktops is because they are portable and that's what people pay for, however laptops second use case can be desktop replacements. The same for handheld gaming PCs, their primary appeal is gaming on the go as it is held in one's hands, which is what people are paying for however they can just like laptops be used as desktop replacements as well.
Hey. Love your videos, I'm saving up to purchase a laptop so i could get back uploading videos on RU-vid again, i know you have a spare laptop that you probably dont use please sell it for me i can't afford to buy a new one or used one right now
I own one of these. Would not recommend except for extremely niche circumstances. Would strongly recommend that you just keep your handheld/mobile gaming to non-windows systems, and buy yourself a decent notebook, Bluetooth mouse, and an Xbox controller for your gaming on the go. You aren't carrying this thing anywhere without a backpack anyway.
I recently retired from my FT job, other I travel teaching civilians and law enforcement, perishable skills. My original traveling rig was my F550 overland build, hauling an airstream. In my airstream, I have a 48in LG CX paired to a ps5 for movie watching as I have a folder of bluerays when off grid, and I had a desktop tower my kids had built for me. Now I recently switched to a E350 4x4 can rig, and a smaller cargo trailer in back. I just got a LG gaming monitor, a small one, but still larger then a laptop. Debating if I should get this, since it can use ms word, excel, and etc. Can I use an xbox bluetooth controller with this? I am looking to get the new assassins creed mirage, and other games through steam gaming client. Now is this powerful enough for that, or should I look into a laptop? Space is limited too, so a desktop is out of the question. I want something that can keep playing current and future games for at least 2-3 years without being out paced. I wish I was more tech savy!
Honestly sometimes less is better,they have packed everything and the kitchen sink into this this it's just to much. For a start I would of much rather them not have detachable controllers on it.
A perhaps overlooked benefit of all these handhelds over the past 4 or 5 years is it might put some thoughts into Nintendo's mind when it comes to the design and specification of the Switch 2 (or NG or Next Gen or whatever) which is whispered to possibly be a second half 2024 release. Ideas? Specs and price. I expect it to be $350 to $400 and quite a bit more powerful than the original - but fall some way short of the PS5 and new Xbox. These handhelds will be food for thought for Nintendo... if they are at all interested in their competition. After all most Nintendo Switch software is X platform. (Over 85% I've read) I suspect they will want to be compared favourably on price and specs to the best of these independent handhelds... at least for launch.
Nintendo doesn't give a shit about hardware specs. There is a reason they are better than Sony and Xbox, it's exactly because of that. Their software is generally superior. They do just enough. It will never be about those that care about graphics in which case the PC will crush Sony/Xbox. It leaves them in the odd spot of being a customer base for those that want great graphics but can't afford it.
Nintendo needs to take some inspiration from all these new handheld PC's. Seeing what is possible in a handheld nowadays, Nintendo will need to up their game, or they will lose the corner of the market that they've dominated for so long now
@@TonyJenn That is a good point. Some of the competition are very easy to use and have 85% of the games Nintendo has. None of the Nintendo exclusives of course, but most of the rest. The new Steam Deck is excellent and quite reasonably priced. Plays those rogue likes, platformers, card battlers and indie games. As well as some of the best AAA games that Nintendo doesn't play. I mean Nintendo can choose to ignore the competition - and they might - they have huge customer loyalty and brand recognition - but I suspect it will play a part in their thinking.
Handheld gaming I play. New 3DS XL Miyoo Mini Plus Switch OLED Have an older PC, GTX1080 for more modern games (1440p 60fps). Have my eye on the Steam Deck OLED. May replace the PC. Overall battery is what needs a major update moving forward. Hot swap battery, cells that use graphine.
Lol this is the ONLY "hand held gaming device" I considered BECAUSE I could FINALLY get my modern umpc via taking off the grip controllers. Just funny it took portable gaming to do it... A LOT better carrying this, a small keyboard, and mouse than my 16in. Asus Studiobook (32gb ram) yet can still run Fusion 360 (cad). 😂 I'm sorta looking into gaming a little and most likely be using a wireless xbox controller rather than the controller grips. Better for "ergonomics" I suppose too.
love your videos, ive dropped by a few times to check on your channel, love the rog ally video, i remember watching you and detroidborg back in 2008 and 2009 being my number one tech reviewers. I remember I watched your video back in 2008 of a phone i really wanted. What happened to detroidborg since im out of the tech loop.
The software on this is worse than "a work in Progress", I was able to fully corrupt Windows by just disabling the controllers. Turns out their intermediate controller emulation layer that they use to allow them to connect and disconnect is super flaky and when these go into power save mode it just keeps freaking out and sending tons of mixed signals and breaking some games if you want to use a different controller. So I tried to disable them in the task manager and that made Windows BSOD on boot. That is a FEAT. Windows isn't the most stable thing, but... yeah. And the controllers are entirely too big for me. The d-pad is barely usable and the triggers are mushy and hard to press if your hands aren't huge and you need a lower grip. This was so close, but it's not a workable proposition. Shame, too, because the tablet itself is really nice and it has great performance. Maybe it'll get better, since a lot of the problems are fixable in software, but with so much competition I'm not sure it'll get a second chance. I wonder if it's worth trying to mod those controllers to improve the d-pad, though. They are not selling replacements, so that's a lot to risk considering the software refuses to work without them.
I dont know about everyone else but even though its portable i always have my Ally plugged up for the 40+ turbo boost..Lenovo doesn't ramp quite as high.
Honestly the big screen is the only selling point of this device. Not a fan of Lenovo, no interest in the removable controllers and Windows 11 is a awful OS on PC and is complete cancer on a battery limited handheld. Great to see more handhelds coming to market but only Steam has shown real commitment.
the screen is a good screen but what's the point in having the 144 Hz if you can't max it out because the thing can't handle itwhat's the point advertising it at 1600 P if I can't even do that that sounds stupid
My concern right now with Legion go is I’m waiting for the update of driver so I can enjoy my game I really don’t know why Lenovo is not releasing. All of this will tarnish the reputation of the handhelds
If window had successed in tablet market, the experience would have been much better and may accelerate the umpc market to size even competable with nintendo
