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LEOPARD 2A1 vs OBJECT 775 | 120mm DM23 APFSDS vs Pancake Tank Armour Penetration Simulation 

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The Object 775 prototype tank featured exceptional armour for its time, but how would it fare against the 120mm DM23 Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) of the Leopard 2A1, which entered service more than a decade after the Object 775 was being tested.
Evidently, this isn't a fair real-world pairing, but it's to provide a comparison with the 105mm M1 Abrams video previously, to show how strong the Object 775's armour really was, and to highlight a flaw of early Soviet composite armour arrays -where the rear plate was often too thin to provide structural support under high-energy impacts. Against kinetic projectiles, the thin back plate brings the mass effectiveness of the 90-70-30 array to near 1, whereas if it was something like 60-70-60 (equal thickness and mass), it could be expected to have a mass effectiveness of ~1.15. This was something the Soviets were aware of and their tank armour arrays were changed accordingly.
For reference, based on the Lanz-Odermatt equation, the DM23 projectile (32x360mm WHA) can perforate ~136mm of 300BHN armour at 75°, with the Object 775 having a mass equivalent of 136.5mm RHA. This means the mass effectiveness of the armour is near to 1 (a single steel plate of equal mass would provide similar protection -and wouldnt crack either).
Amazing thumbnail artwork from: ‪@Warthunder‬

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@dontdrinkthewater5097
@dontdrinkthewater5097 9 месяцев назад
I am now curious about what a modernized object 775 would look like
@doraafelfedezoofisol
@doraafelfedezoofisol 9 месяцев назад
well...put era on it 🤣
@mostafaaysser4276
@mostafaaysser4276 9 месяцев назад
What about an object 775-E
@muhammadirfanataulawal7630
@muhammadirfanataulawal7630 9 месяцев назад
Maybe with better gun and stacks of relikt ERA
@somerandomboibackup6086
@somerandomboibackup6086 9 месяцев назад
Kumtakt
@pumpkingaming9216
@pumpkingaming9216 9 месяцев назад
maybe put pikenose era on the turret front, put shtoras on the front of turret, put era on everywhere. and put some drozd aps.
@seanchen7391
@seanchen7391 9 месяцев назад
I'm curious about how to distribute the armor plate thickness to most efficiency. How about testing different ratio together? Let's say you have the same Textolite, while the outer:inner plate are 90:30, 75:45, and 60:60. That would be very fun.
@DubiousFIN
@DubiousFIN 9 месяцев назад
What about a V or A shape if apfsds projectiles follow the plug hole it will enter the second plate at an unfavorable angle
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 9 месяцев назад
We actually know the answer. Each layer should be about the same thickness with at least 3 layer, and the layer should be at least about 40mm.
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 7 месяцев назад
You want to add layered armor, because projectile bends and twists along the way. You can see it in this simulation. It starts to develop a meaningful twist when it had beaten around 80% or armor. Blunted and deformed projectile cannot penetrate armor as well, because it twists during free fall in intermediate medium and connects in poor angles where energy is transferred sideways. Optimal armor composition should had been 75:45.
@badgambit
@badgambit 8 месяцев назад
Can you please simulate the recent Bradley's 25mm vs T90M on ukraine ? At that angle of, maybe, 20-30° angle, the side armor's 80mm plate should be pretty close to 90mm. I was wondering whether the repeated hits from the 25mm are able to penetrate the side-of-the-hull plate. Assuming the ERA are gone from previous hits, the side armor's effective thickness of about ~90mm againts repeated hits from (taking info from warthunder's apds spec 😅😅) ~80mm penetrating rounds @
@AllMightyKingBowser
@AllMightyKingBowser 9 месяцев назад
I want some crazy engineers to design a moder Maus. With current engine technology I am pretty sure it is possible :D
@Янус_Ырт
@Янус_Ырт 9 месяцев назад
Well, just slap 3 Abrams tanks together and you will get it. However whats the purpose?
@TehShinegami
@TehShinegami 9 месяцев назад
Forget the Maus. Make a P1000 Ratte with modern armour
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 9 месяцев назад
@@TehShinegami Forget the P1000 Ratte and make the P1500 Monster
@ToiletThatRamsPeople
@ToiletThatRamsPeople 9 месяцев назад
​@@Янус_Ырт To get easily destroyed by airstrike
@wotwott2319
@wotwott2319 8 месяцев назад
​@@Янус_Ыртbecause we can
@BOEING--mh6xm
@BOEING--mh6xm 9 месяцев назад
Hello there I love your channel I’ve been here since a few months before that one Bradley getting obliterated by 3 cannon balls on August 2021 lol Edit: it might of been Dejmian XYZ s video but I watched your channel at that time as well
@SwissAdmiral
@SwissAdmiral 9 месяцев назад
Can you do an M830 HEATFS shell against a T72B's upper plate with its kontakt 1, to show how ERA can stop a HEAT projectile dead?
@belgianfried
@belgianfried 8 месяцев назад
It would be no penn even without Kontakt
@SwissAdmiral
@SwissAdmiral 8 месяцев назад
that wouldnt really be the point@@belgianfried, the idea is more of showing the interaction between ERA and HEAT shells.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 8 месяцев назад
​@@SwissAdmiral Then there are simplified 2d sim out there. To do it with the mesh size of what we seeing here are not realistic even with very good consumer grade computer. Afaik, this specific workload is heavily CPU dependent.
@shaggings
@shaggings 8 месяцев назад
I wish that in WT this woulf also happen, even if the round technically didn't enter the fighting compartment, there would still be shrapnel entering the tank because the armor plate actually did give out.
@ИгорьИгоревич-ь4б
@ИгорьИгоревич-ь4б 8 месяцев назад
please add a real speed option at the end so we can not only see the slow process but also see this destruction happen in real time
@Kasian02
@Kasian02 9 месяцев назад
Can you make a simulation of 60mm + 70mm textolite + 60mm? To see if it will make a difference.
@seancopley9678
@seancopley9678 9 месяцев назад
this would be such a cool direct comparrison of the mass effectivness would love to see this too!!!!!!1
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 7 месяцев назад
I would not say that Soviets tank armor scheme was unoptimal. When your only solution is: "to add more armor" then it is not an armor distribution which is the problem, but the threats which tank expects to face.
@Red-Magic
@Red-Magic 8 месяцев назад
Can you do a tutorial on how you go about creating one of these simulations
@wiktor_1504
@wiktor_1504 3 месяца назад
ansys is easy i think
@turtletheturtlebecauseturt6584
@turtletheturtlebecauseturt6584 8 месяцев назад
Idea: what if you launched a metal plate at the incoming round? Could it break it apart before it hits the main armor?
@Dancorg
@Dancorg 8 месяцев назад
that's what modern ERA does..
@turtletheturtlebecauseturt6584
@turtletheturtlebecauseturt6584 8 месяцев назад
@@Dancorg No I mean like a large solid steel plate instead of fragments
@armin1500
@armin1500 8 месяцев назад
​​@@turtletheturtlebecauseturt6584im pretty sure that exists nowadays on some tanks, i think i saw it on shorts a little while ago on some israeli(?) tanks, smth like a quick detection and reaction cannon that shoots a beam onto an incoming round to slow it down and/or destroy it.
@deathdragon2283
@deathdragon2283 6 месяцев назад
Command detonated ERA is a thing that’s been, and likely is still being, looked into.
@notachair4757
@notachair4757 19 дней назад
Hmm If you added ERA or a spall liner that'd probably stop.
@noahthecarlover3327
@noahthecarlover3327 9 месяцев назад
Never have i clicked so fast
@mahernoor1590
@mahernoor1590 8 месяцев назад
By any chance is there a way to get the simulation??
@SuryKanthSK
@SuryKanthSK 9 месяцев назад
Hey , can we get a tutorial plzzzz... I need to learn how these things are made ....
@rizky5506
@rizky5506 8 месяцев назад
The Driver 💀
@rjansen6874
@rjansen6874 8 месяцев назад
Hey can you please make a sim(or more) for me? AT guns vs 3 meter reinforced concrete bunker. 88mm and also modern tank rounds would be much appreciated.
@limibaen
@limibaen 8 месяцев назад
What program do you use in your simulations?
@ondrahalama2819
@ondrahalama2819 9 месяцев назад
What software are you using for this type of a simulation?
@dawsonhillio4737
@dawsonhillio4737 8 месяцев назад
I'm curious on how you put everything together, is it like a program you made or is it a site or what is it? If you don't mind answering
@kajetus0688
@kajetus0688 8 месяцев назад
Hey can you do some ERAWA-2 simulations? its a very good Polish ERA that can defeat EFP
@spigotsandcogs
@spigotsandcogs 8 месяцев назад
Could you do the Type 97 anti-tank rifle vs the M4 Sherman’s side armor?
@a_bad_channel
@a_bad_channel 8 месяцев назад
i want to see this tank with kontakt 5 ERA
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 9 месяцев назад
Next episode put ERA on objec 775 😂
@IbramRIMS-fo8zb
@IbramRIMS-fo8zb 8 месяцев назад
Hey can you do a videos about 50 bmg M2 AP round shot against a AR500 at a thickness of 13mm at 1000 yards and 500 yards pls
@dimitryrostov6482
@dimitryrostov6482 8 месяцев назад
Armor that bmps can only dream about…
@xassasiantorx
@xassasiantorx 9 месяцев назад
really illustrates how angle matters, and how segmented russian penetrators work. imo
@panterka.f
@panterka.f 9 месяцев назад
its dm23, why are you talking about russian penetrators.......
@Manyak009
@Manyak009 8 месяцев назад
Can you do the panzer 4 vs the british Tortoise side skirt
@Einheit101
@Einheit101 8 месяцев назад
Hello Friend, can you do a Soviet 85mm or US 76mm gun against Panther Schmalturm turret front at 1000 meters? That would be a close thing :) thanks
@fish-qg4nu
@fish-qg4nu 3 месяца назад
Slap era on it 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@danbal356
@danbal356 9 месяцев назад
Вы можете смоделировать очередь снарядов из противо воздушного вооружения ?
@CHIPY_XD
@CHIPY_XD 9 месяцев назад
What simulator do u use to make these vids?
@Vance_da_boy
@Vance_da_boy 9 месяцев назад
How do you run these simulations??
@PhisitJenakkarkul
@PhisitJenakkarkul 8 месяцев назад
155mm T35E1 vs Tiger II
@cooliocoolio-z7v
@cooliocoolio-z7v 9 месяцев назад
PANCAKE B O I
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 9 месяцев назад
The opposite of Strv 74
@sugisdoomguy54
@sugisdoomguy54 8 месяцев назад
We leaking documents on RU-vid now lol
@gremie442
@gremie442 6 месяцев назад
No
@theagent315
@theagent315 9 месяцев назад
What app or website is this simulation called?
@hansdaniel2712
@hansdaniel2712 8 месяцев назад
DM73 VS T90M ?
@HEAVYgamer6521
@HEAVYgamer6521 9 месяцев назад
What mass efficiency did u come up with for this armor array? Is it somewhere around 1.07?
@cadenhughes608
@cadenhughes608 8 месяцев назад
Can you make an app on this
@Edward-jf6sn
@Edward-jf6sn 9 месяцев назад
Go BM Oplot +ERA Duplet
@ZayP730
@ZayP730 9 месяцев назад
"mass effectiveness" SY a confirmed Mass Effect fan!?
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 9 месяцев назад
Mass effectiveness is just one way to compare unconventional armor solution to homogenous solid steel armor plate. If the armor in question perform less well than conventional steel armor of the same mass, it means the armor has a lower mass efficiency.
@ZayP730
@ZayP730 9 месяцев назад
@@jintsuubest9331 i was just making a bad joke lol ik what he meant
@Communist2005
@Communist2005 8 месяцев назад
This is app in mobile or Computer
@TheExplosiveGuy
@TheExplosiveGuy 3 месяца назад
Mullimitters? Is there some new measurement standard I don't know about? 😂
@osmacar5331
@osmacar5331 8 месяцев назад
Failed to penetrate just like the simulations fail to incorporate proper monolithic penetrator geometry and deflection cases.
@rare_kumiko
@rare_kumiko 9 месяцев назад
Before watching it, I'm calling no pen. Ok, I guess I was (kinda) wrong.
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 9 месяцев назад
Totally wrong, thats a pen and kill
@heliogonzalezsanchez8227
@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 9 месяцев назад
​@@rykehuss3435there are fuel tanks behind the front hull so they could absorb that spall, so yes, it is a penetration but maybe not a kill
@floathua
@floathua 9 месяцев назад
Floathua I want to repost your video to the Chinese bilibili websie,It means distributing your video to other websites and marking your original link. Of course, all this behavior will not bring me any financial gain. It is all yours.I will not change your video, your video will be distributed to other websites as it is and bring Chinese viewers to your original video,It's all about generating electricity for love. In short, it's a porter. Of course, the machine translation I used may not be accurate when it is directly translated into Chinese?I'm waiting for your reply here
@MajesticCrow747
@MajesticCrow747 8 месяцев назад
How do you make these
@Dr_FreemanXD
@Dr_FreemanXD 8 месяцев назад
What is the name of the application?
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 9 месяцев назад
Bad day for the obj 775 crew
@panterka.f
@panterka.f 9 месяцев назад
barely any pen, "bad day for the crew" yeah yeah
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 9 месяцев назад
@@panterka.f barely? are you blind? there's big chunks (and many small chunks not modeled) flying at mach 1 towards the crew m0ron
@愛を込めてロシアから
@愛を込めてロシアから 8 месяцев назад
​@@rykehuss3435 it is still barely pen. Crew sits in the turret and protected with computers and fuel tanks
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 8 месяцев назад
@@愛を込めてロシアから Its not barely pen like I said. Big chunks flying at mach 1 and many smaller chunks not modeled here. You got no idea what youre talking about
@愛を込めてロシアから
@愛を込めてロシアから 8 месяцев назад
@@rykehuss3435 lol you are just soviet-hater
@power7366
@power7366 9 месяцев назад
It is a programm? How can i get it?
@johndoe5440
@johndoe5440 9 месяцев назад
wtf these videos have voices now
@AstfxI
@AstfxI 9 месяцев назад
How do you do that?
@ghostbr7451
@ghostbr7451 8 месяцев назад
What the game name
@HughzaccharyVelasco-by4xx
@HughzaccharyVelasco-by4xx 8 месяцев назад
What game
@MrBonako
@MrBonako 9 месяцев назад
Опять видео из жанра Фантастики, впрочем как и все видео на этом шляпном канале
@danielspoon1234
@danielspoon1234 8 месяцев назад
25 pounder
@feelingnether158
@feelingnether158 8 месяцев назад
Weakest least ambitious soviet prototype
@Most_Wanted101
@Most_Wanted101 4 месяца назад
Pancake
@LuisReyes-do7pd
@LuisReyes-do7pd 9 месяцев назад
funny pancake
@danny2717
@danny2717 9 месяцев назад
Does this pen in 💩 thunder?
@TeddyKrimsony
@TeddyKrimsony 9 месяцев назад
ya
@thiesdwersteg982
@thiesdwersteg982 9 месяцев назад
no not even dm33 does
@MrCrazybadbastard
@MrCrazybadbastard 9 месяцев назад
the game with so much ruzki bias you can smell it? :)
@danny2717
@danny2717 9 месяцев назад
@@MrCrazybadbastard yes exactly, the game where russian autoloaders don’t explode and where russian tanks from 2000+ fight cold war NATO tanks.
@GreenSnaiper
@GreenSnaiper 9 месяцев назад
​@@danny2717🐽🐽🐽🐽🐽🥓🥓🥓
@johncitizen306
@johncitizen306 9 месяцев назад
silence beta male
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 9 месяцев назад
0:33 and 0:58 im just going to go ahead and say it and ruin it for everyone The _Tussy_
@Русские_вперед
@Русские_вперед 8 месяцев назад
Опять симуляция, где снаряд при столкновении движется с той же скоростью, что и до него. Хуета короче.
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