Lesotho: The deal with water | Global Ideas 

But we also don’t see that 70$ mil 🚮

What 70M$? U very ignorant.

@@nasrinhoosen6696 70 million is too small, really too small to do anything of note.

70 million is below market price for that water, Lesotho is effectively subsidizing South Africa's water supply - Caspian report. Don't forget the loss of agricultural land, grazing grounds for cattle due to the dams. Lesotho is left with nothing but big dams and electricity, dependent on South Africa for basic necessities like food essentially giving back the money they were given for the water.

@@vivekp4854 $70mn is a lot, the problem is that the Lesotho ruling elite are highly corrupt

Bro it's a oversee news channel so we should not be shocked

The movement did not cover the unforeseen costs. The transition from Ha Lejone to Masianokeng has more implications than a mere brick 2 roomed electrified house. No jobs and many more. If we continue like this we are accumulating more troubles for our children. The argument is straight forward. We should stop defending the damages we created.

true indeed

This is really sad! Politicians in lesotho are not helping the country.

What a beautiful country.

So true😞 but GOD will soon deal with all politicians and their injustice and unfair practices.

@@roeteroestof3896 no, God only helps those who help themselves

70 million is below market price for that water, Lesotho is effectively subsidizing South Africa's water supply - Caspian report. Don't forget the loss of agricultural land, grazing grounds for cattle due to the dams. Lesotho is left with nothing but big dams and electricity, dependent on South Africa for basic necessities like food essentially giving back the money they were given for the water.

I mean being paid 70million euros a year, this is a Lesotho problem not a South African one

@@reatileleolo748 you are right the government got greedy .

Please don't spread lies Keketso..... Lesotho citizens that go to SA schools come from very affluent families from Lesotho, in my opinion you have little to no knowledge at all about Basotho in Lesotho, or even the geographic feel and disappointment we feel here in Lesotho.... you are however right about us being the same people but if you knew the history of how the Free State was stolen from Lesotho you would be singing a different tune right now. I wish, we could be I the same room so we can each talk about our history, your name suggests you are a Mosotho then we could fill in some holes, the conception of the LHWP from the start was unbalanced, hence the change in government in Lesotho instigated by the apartheid regime in SA.

As someone from Lesotho, you're 100% correct. The country depends on SA politically , socially and economically. More of our people work in SA done in their home country. We go to your schools. We're one people

@@Msl4sho In my street alone(not the entire Town) we have four poor families from Lesotho one recently moved in months ago, their children go to government schools. How can I know little of Basotho when i am Mosotho(Mokoena wa Monaheng) myself, my grandfather was born in Lesotho, Thaba -Phechela to be precise, I have 70% of my relatives living that side . First being born in Lesotho doesn't make you better Mosotho than others, I don't want to take this conversation to who are real Basotho ho ya 'ka letoto la diboko/liboko' since it will nullify the name Basotho. I know and understand my people history better than you think I know. The issue of land reposition is still the main debate in SA especially the Free State. More than 70% of land is still owned by whites and the geography is still colonial for the fact that we have names like Senekal, Wepener and Lady Hophouse on this new dispensation still remind us of our painful past. Free State is a domestic matter. If Lesotho claim its an independent country I don't know how this land issue be resolved. An independent country cannot enter affairs of another country.

@@lwazihagaigwiji They denied that many times, especially the Lesotho politician and their elites. They benefit a lot from Lesotho independence, they live lavish lifestyle at the expense of their people.

Me being born and raised in Gauteng 🇿🇦 I would very much like Lesotho to be 10th province. Empa Basotho🇱🇸 haba batle hoba karolo ya Afrika Boroa. Ke batla ho etela Frei Stata🇿🇦 le Lesotho🇱🇸.

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When war struck government get surprised bit they are the 1s robing our parents of their lands and ancestry

@@marvohope7585 his right bro ...Lesotho 🇱🇸 gets electricity from south africa 🇿🇦 ,its just Lesotho is to small but at the same time the water only helps the city of gold so it really has nothing to do with the rest of south africa

Where did you see this? In your dreams?

@@MrLoobu The NGOs in the video. You don't believe they are doing an ok job?

@@Miamcoline I dont see where they made any difference no.

@@MrLoobu I'm sorry to hear that. But I guess it definitely can be an issue with NGOs not making any difference, being unrealistic, being corrupt, or be completely unproductive.

@@Miamcoline bro the government was just greedy 70 million a year is a lot the king must be happy with this deal

In some ways, it is a lake😅

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Very beautiful country ❤️

Lesotho is probably one of the hardest countries to find a local to collaborate with when making a short news piece such as this

Didn't think our small country will make it to the headlines.

this is a lie, it is approximately R60 million

Its like a 6th of the countries capital expenditure its allot of money they just need to utilize it wisely. Problem is these SADC countries all have corruption problems there isn't a working model in the region that all these countries people can unit around to end this bad behavior because people are stubborn with their politics

Switzerland is like Lesotho

_It's like Switzerland in Africa._ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha.

Swaziland (Now called eswatini) & not Switzerland.Don't confuse the two countries, sir.

@@alexandermutune6131 He wasn't. He was equating the geography of Switzerland and Lesotho as alpine countries.

@@alexandermutune6131 With comprehension like yours, I'm surprised you could even string a sentence together

Lesotho refused to join Union of South Africa in 1910 which later became an apartheid racist state. So they lost much of their land which is now occupied by SA. Some part of the following province were teritories of Basotho Kingdom ( eastern cape ,north west, western cape, gauteng, with small portions in KZN and mpumalanga, the entire Free State province is historically Lesotho). It wasn't easy for a young nation like that to fight Four encroaching armies all at once with no allies (Boers & British from South & East, Zulus rom east (Xhosas were no friends from east as well) and other tribes from the north) it was basically surrounded by enemies so the current Lesotho was the last stand which has never been occupied by any foreign armies. South Africa also sent armies in 1998 and they were still defeated through Lesotho suffured huge casualties. In fact, technically Lesotho was never colonized but they asked British Empire to become their protectorate, by handing a portion of their autonomy to the British. They kicked the British & Boers a*s multiple times and without guns if I may say. This nation has been surviving over 200 years through wits. They have been defending themselves ever since. Even now with the so called "Democratic South Africa". The current governmant over the past 30 years has been shi* though and I do not think my mother's homeland will survive the next decade. 5 Years for me is enough for it to colapse :(

@@soothingserenerelaxationmu7659 I get the history behind it but the way the whole thing is structured is useless because at the end of the day its INSIDE South Africa......how does a normall country operate inside another country? And growing up in South Africa I always till to this day felt like Lesotho people are South Africans and I think most South Africans would agree

@@logen6792 this is how I always put it,Mosotho from Lesotho speaking, technically we are South Africans, legally we are not.its just a country like any other,check the place called Orania in South Africa, still the same with Lesotho,they even have their own currency

@@jankilehloma1971 Orania is rubbish it nothing compared to Lesotho and it must stop very soon

@@alfredphamotse1316 you missed the point I was trying to make by a mile

"...we are at the brink of saving it or letting it fall." 👍

@@elram2649 thank you.

Its sad how much electricity we export yet we as South Africans have an energy crisis in our cities & villages

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Your aggressive South Africa stole our water and just pay peanuts and its Insulting!

We had a number of plants a while back in Cape Town due to a severe drought. Many of those plants have closed down and as I understand it the running costs were just too high. However, the good news is that I see some new projects now in Cape Town to build new plants - so lets wait and see how that plays out.

A little known fact to many South Africans; we actually do have desalination plants and have had them for more than a decade or so. The Mossel Bay installation produces about 15 mega litres per day. This was for Mossel Bay municipality and in partnership with MosGas if I remember correctly. Gas exploration and production being another interesting project we have in the country. The Eastern Cape, Canon Rick and Boknes installation produces about 1 mega litre per day. The Lambert's Bay installation produces 1.7 mega litres per day. This is for the Cedarberg Municipality in the Western Cape. The Plattenburg Bay and Knysna installations produces about 2 mega litres per day, respectively. A much more recent installation in Port Alfred produces about 2 mega litres per day. This was commissioned in late 2021. Furthermore, we do have the technology and expertise. Unfortunately our main stream media, like everywhere else thrives on negativity.

@@revolution475 there's a lot of negatives to desalination. No matter how you get to it, each litre of desalinated water on average also produces one litre of watery brine, a byproduct that is released back into the sea. Brine sinks and starves oxygen rich waters, killing all sealife around it.

@@Genkaro As you will have read, my reply addresses the assertion that South Africa does not have desalination plants, or that those that existed may have been decommissioned due to running costs. Both claims cannot be maintained when comparing them with reality. That being said, this does not diminish the material trade offs realized when choosing to implement the above-mentioned schemes, especially with the objective of complementing existing bulk water and sanitation schemes in order to attain water security in those regions or the country as a whole. The trade-offs (which I'm fully aware of) are well worth it in my opinion, particularly for the communities concerned.

Desalination plants require a lot of electricity and South Africa is experiencing an energy crisis.

...if you do the conversion, that amounts to 1.5 billion rands. Should SA pay more? How much?

that will never happen, uncontrolled capitalism is truly the root of evil

Bro 70 million a year is bring paid to their king so south africa has nothing more to do

Blame the politicians

South Africa hold one of 3 enclaves on Earth, and the only enclave in Africa. If they intergrate, South Africa will lose the priviledge.

@@callistotv0 Who cares, are we being paid to have that privilege? nope, so we won't lose much

@@vik4741 SA will lose a cultural priviledge to the EU. In fact, Italy is not being paid to hold San Marino, nor is it paid to hold the Vatican, but never complains about either being a sovereign state within them. By intergrating Lesotho within SA, the entire continent loses the priviledge of holding an independant enclave, and South Africa will become what they swore to avoid: Imperialists.

In fact, San Marino does rely on Italy for literally everything as well, with tourism as the only asset. Why aren't they intergrating into Italy? Lesotho has several mines, including the highest average elevation on the continent. There are too many variables to intergration, with an entire continent's modern culture put at risk.

You ar clearly in the dark. Lesotho is a sweet tax haven for South African politicians. That is the true reason Lesotho will never be absorbed into South Africa.

The purpose of the Lesotho Highland project is to move water upstream to supply the Gauteng Vaal river with water from the KZN togela River in times of drought and to supply Lesotho with electricity in times of plenty. The dams where never about water for Lesotho having water to spare was just a bonus. Perhaps they should consider fish farming if they want to extract more value out of this water scheme.

You are so right. The government of Lesotho is so useless. All the money is goes in the politicians pockets.

It will never happen, trust me!

@@prophetthaanyane4828 then you wil die poor

@@prophetthaanyane4828 the weed part or the province part🤔 asking for my neighbours wife

I hate ignorant people at the expense of other African people

@@cellb2619 Both. The thing is Lesotho is not just any other country. You will UNDERSTAND this very soon!

If you knew the geography of Lesotho you would understand, as for now the video has no context to you.

The loss of arable land forced more livestock onto less land. This led to overgrazing. It's due to the dams.

The Basotho also believe that annual burning of grasslands stimulate growth. They are mistaken and it contributes to erosion.

@@elephantman2112 lol, the land that was lost was so small, got nothing to do with that. Also, why is erosion happening higher up in the mountains where there is no damns?

Trees on rocks

@@JO_Artificial Bonsai grows on rocks.

@@maniusa4777 what type of climate does bonsai grow on remembering that Lesotho is the highest and coldest country in Africa. Again we don't know how it's gonna impact the local ecosystem some invasive species are very dangerous for local ecosystems

@@mosalethoba5267 We need to plant more trees all over the world to help with the climate,i don't think Lesotho is all rocks.

Not exactly plant trees in urban areas and it works plant trees in desert and you actually make it worse... don't ask me... science.

Giving blood is a noble act.… Someday you might need a blood transfusion after an accident

@@fern7306 ...a noble act indeed.

@Joe ROGAIN, how much should the water be sold for?

Yes go and change something when you are a sheep herder and someone is making decisions on your behalf. This is an issue between South Africa and Lesotho. I am sure something mutually beneficial can be ironed out.

As someone from this country, I can tell you that the situation can't be fixed. The project started in late 80s and many different governments had been elected since the 80s. Everyone is corrupt in this country. It's rooted deep in our society. It's sad , but average Joe like myself can't do anything about it. We're helpless.

In the US a teenager killed 19 children and two teachers, is it their fault that that happened because they voted in a government that didn't restrict lax gun laws?

Lesotho is a monarchy. Africa is made up of 53 different countries with different political systems and varying levels of influence from the West.

@@geelhealthcarespecialistcl2368 It has the same political system as the UK. Try again.

70 million euros is alot😂

Did you watch the video?

This has nothing to do with South Africa, Lesotho gets compensation and electricity as part of an agreement to supply SA with water. Them not compensating their people is ruthless and of course their problem 🤷.

No it's not

@@Kirsten567 and you are? 🤷‍♂️

@@lente.ntsihlele the Virgin Mary

@@Kirsten567 seems like it 🙄

You think in a country with a population of less than 3 million there will be enough people who has the required skills, qualifications and experience to build such a big dam on their own? They are being compensated unless their government is corrupt

SA is paying for it it's not like we are getting it for free. Relax, you are still getting water

@@Kirsten567 And it's not like the payment you are talking about Is benefiting those people who were removed there, for you to get fresh clean water.

You're speaking dough

Very evil, but i also notice the villagers look older. Maybe they prioritized hiring educated young people 🤷🏾‍♀️

@@missbstuurman they promised to hire people, from the village, and the rest Lesotho, but hired South Africans instead.

@@thomasneedham1224 ohh no that's just wrong on their part.

Hate is a reason for many problems, both on personal and societal level.

@@adoatero5129 Really? I would definitely say GREED,CORRUPTION, DEFORESTATION,POLLUTION OF OUR WATERWAYS, I could name so many more examples but life’s to short. So yeah I ABSOLUTELY HATE HUMANITY 💀

@@Robrulz666icloud - “Really?” Yes. - “I would definitely say GREED,CORRUPTION, DEFORESTATION,POLLUTION OF OUR WATERWAYS” Those too. It’s not an either-or thing. - “So yeah I ABSOLUTELY HATE HUMANITY” Does that include you?

@@adoatero5129 No because I live an almost completely self sufficient lifestyle growing more than 80% of my own food my home is solar powered which actually allows me to get rebates back for the excess power I produce. I could continue but I think we can both agree you don’t want to hear that. So i will say YES THAT INCLUDES MYSELF. Now run along cheers

@@Robrulz666icloud That's great! I don't have land where to grow, so I can't grow my own food, but I try to make responsible choices when I buy things (organic, sustainably manufactured, etc.), and recycle as much as I can. I don't own a car, and ride bicycle around the year instead. I haven't learned to hate yet, but I'm sometimes frustrated, so perhaps that'll change 🙂.

How do they?

You watch too much Alien Covenant

Greed

@@tloutlou2655 greed and avarice at the cost of their own.

That's just sad, the greedy gov should first make sure the people have water before selling it to greedy south africa.

Rich capitalists are exploiting our small country and politicians sold us out. Many people 8n rural districts don't have water. Greed and madness ruined this country

@@washingtonnyathi3395 ...the Lesotho people are the sole responsibility of the Lesotho government. The water projects are paid for with South African tax money, and by the way the Lesotho government gets paid for this water by South Africa and to to it all off, they get electricity. If the Lesotho government really wanted those people to have water, they would have connected them to the local municipalities that provides water treated to potable standards. The water from these dams is piped to and treated in South Africa to SANS241 standards, making suitable for public consumption.

We don't need forests here. We don't have natural disasters like in your country. No need to forest our Highlands.

It is the evil purpose of anc government to exploit other African nations. ANC government is doing bad things to Lesotho, just like cruel things Israel is doing to Palestine in the Middle East. These our Highlands waters they are steal from us, will cause terrible floods in Gauteng like they overflow vaal dam. They will steal our water forcefully and God will reprimand them through huge floods around gauteng province. Waters will badly destroy their houses and other properties like vehicles. Our water will curse them these thieves of other countries natural resources.

you are advocating for oppression on the basis that some benefit from it.

@@mooncake387 i am advocating for a possibility to progress and develop an impoverished economy without having to overvalue the inconvenience of a very very very small group of people. call me a monster!

@@JohannBBravo you are heartless if you cant even empathize with human beings

@@JohannBBravo monster

It is called Wokeness.