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@EzeGengar15, i know about that. But what i don't know about is the general format of these jokes in fantano's comment section. like this format "anthony, i know _____ but you didn't have to say [atrocious thing]"
@@punpompur it's to get people to watch the whole video and then get trolled because he didn't actually say that. Fantano's not the only one, either. In fact, there's several review channels that have the atrocity format in their comment boards.
@@reinemazidath5466 It is 100% true. MJ would always think Prince was being mean to him, Prince would refuse collaborations, they were in a small feud that lasted decades which later turned into a rivalry. There was respect for each other but that's about it.
I'll never understand why people are obsessed with comparing Michael to Prince. They're absolutely nothing alike. It's like comparing Sammy Davis Jnr to Jimmy Hendrix, or Andy Warhol to Picasso ie, ridiculous and pointless! Just stop.
They were both black contemporary pop androgenous artists born in disco with high pitch voices, and they both danced, they are indeed very comparable. If you like one better than the other and you don't like people saying you're wrong it's your own problem. Music discussion is healthy and entertaining, stop shutting it off.
@@thedudeunderyourbed8474 I genuinely can't compare them because they both made different types of music. I love them both but they weren't the same in their impacts. Michael had a further reach and a larger influence because everyone could listen to him it didn't matter. Prince on the other had wasn't meant for everyone. He was definitely for the grown and sexy. It think it just depends on the sound you are looking for. Everyone has know Michael since we were children. Most people don't find about prince until they are a bit older to understand the stuff he was singing about.
Apples & oranges. You ignored ''or is musically talented" Anyone who composes, conducts, or performs music may be referred to as a musician - Do you understand that??. Fact is, MJ did play instruments - not like Prince because he didn't need to as they weren't part of his performance. I don't care if Prince could play 40 instruments, it certainly didn't and doesn't make him better - There was & is no comparison between the two, at all. Get over it.
@@iamamultimillionaire6299 It's funny to idiots that don't care about child abuse. But it can easily happen to them or their children. Life is a bitch.
@@AC-mp7cxI like jackson's music but prince was on another level he was an amazing songwriter, guitarist, multi instrumentalist that didn't need a producer ✌️
@@mrgotham3685 so dumb. The one who named mj king of pop didn't know absolutely anything about music, meanwhile Stevie wonder named Prince the emperor of pop
For some reason, I believe they are both extremely talented. Sorry for my amateur knowledge about music, but I believe they are equal. One’s a child prodigy who learned to dance on his own, and grew up to be one of the most amazing singers ever, using lots and lots of emotion and a powerful voice. He also can beatbox, and help produce great songs. He also is awesome in military-styled costumes. Another grew up to be bold, but sexy, and grew up to do a lot by himself. He also became an amazing singer, and reaching his emotions into a crowd, grabbing many women’s hearts with his splits and brave style. He lets off an impressive vocal range, too. They both have beautiful powerful vocal ranges, full of emotions. And what makes these artists both legendary, unlike today’s artists, they both don’t always sound emotionless, or weird.
@@AC-mp7cxprince wrote, produced, arranged nearly 40 studio albums and more than a thousand unreleased songs without a producer and was an amazing guitarist and multi instrumentalist I'm a fan of jackson as well but no one was on prince's level as an artist and entertainer ✌️
Michael - Vocals, songwriting, stage presence, ability to access great session players/musicians, fashion, looks. Prince - Vocals, songwriting, stage presence, great concepts e.g. albums creating eras, fashion, looks, self recording/producing, and this is where Prince wins, Prince is a virtuoso plays basically all instruments available and more than beast at each instruments like Guitar, Piano, Bass, Drums etc… more than Pro fissionable at each of those and master of his voice!!!
Idk. Some of the eq-ing on rince's music is downright bad. Really hard to listen to. He was a better musician if you consider that being able to play a wide variety of instruments. Mike was in a whole nother league as a song writer though, not factoring in dancing and entertaining. Prince also benefitted more from pushing androgeny in a addition to racial ambiguity which they both benefitted from. Where Mike wins to me a s musical mind is that his music stands the test of time far better where a small amount of Prince's music is even listenable to me as someone who didn't grow up in their prime eras.
I think it's sad when people want to undermine Michael's songwriting ability, vocal range/singing ability/ voice manipulation, songwriting process (beatboxing and singing all the parts of a song on a tape recorder), vision for music videos etc.
B B I didn't say deny. I just see people trying to confine Michael Jackson to being "the greatest entertainer of all time" (which isn't wrong) but he too was a "true artist" despite his mass appeal.
True. But Galileo Galilei was also a minority when he said the earth moves around the sun. And guess who was right. So that isn't really an argument. But then again, both extremely talented.
Both are great for different reasons, but I think Michael Jackson is a better performer/entertainer and he is more iconic. He's also a better singer in my opinion.
@Tanguy2412 "healthiness" in singing feels like a pseudoscience. Everybody on the Internet disagrees about it and the people who hurt their voice usually just sang far too much. Don't sing when it hurts and you probably shouldn't be singing two hours every evening for weeks. That's all the health tips you need.
Prince was iconic and absolutely an incredible entertainer and performer. not making an argument as to who's better but I keep seeing that used against him as if he didn't do wild and amazing stage performances too.
I'm gonna have 2 say what Stevie Wonder say on the interview of Rolling Stones magazine Michael Jackson may be the king of pop, but Prince should be the emperor! Can't argue with the legendary Stevie Wonder. Sorry but not sorry!
Good video Anthony but I must say that the 5 minute rant at the end of the video about why Italians should be deported to the Middle East made me a bit uncomfortable
Prince is probably the bigger genius, but honestly, I'll never come back to one of his songs out of the blue. i have weird days where i randomly watch MJ for hours. He's just the better entertainer and had more catchy titles.
Raphael Schostok I don't get this "bigger genius". MJ composed music, was an outstanding vocalist, one of the best dancers of the 20th century, an amazing visionary artist, wrote screenplays for his music videos, choreographed his stage shows and dance sequences in music videos. He was innovative in all of these fields. How is Prince the "bigger genius"?
Eymarr Blank I asked you a simple question: do you know what "less genius" and "more genius" is? My bet you can't answer that question, yet you keep repeating it.
@@fizzpeakgamer1318 Of course it does, because now it seems like a marketing ploy....it's not just about the music. Like, for example....if Who Is It by MJ appeared on a soundtrack to me it would lessen the songs value. I would associate it too much with the movie and that, my friend, would totally suck.
Michael Jackson was better because people cared about him more. I adore Prince. He was a phenomenon. But he wasn't the King of Pop. He was a highly influential singer who will go down as a legend. But there has yet to be one pop singer who even approaches Michael's legacy. He had hit after hit after hit. Prince had plenty of hits but no where near Michael. I get it Anthony, you're approaching this question from the perspective of someone who lives and breathes music and from there I could see why you would choose Prince, he is the better musician. But music isn't simply about technical ability. Michael's skill was the ability to bring in everybody, no matter who they were, to groove to his music. I've talked to hardcore racists who couldn't help but sing along and dance to his music. It's so infectious, so joyous you can't help but like it. Prince has a lot of great music but a lot of it sounds very dated. Michael's music sounds timeless.
I grew up with Michael Jackson and Prince I discovered as an adult. It is silly to pit them against each other because I listen to them for completely different reasons. Prince was the better artist and Michael Jackson was the better entertainer
@fantano i think you greatlay underestimate MJ's msuical and writing ability. you know most of the songs on Thriller and Bad where Demos created by MJ first before he brought to quincy and the session musicians most fo those compositions werent greatly changed. But yes Prince is well clear but MJ was closer than people thought he was. Just saying.
@@JoseGarcia-ki3vk that's not really an answer. Of course there is a place Prince can go that MJ. Can't but what I'm saying is MJ was also around the best Musicians of the time at Motown and then continued to be around them as he grew older. Further to the point MJ was a professional musician before Prince and The Jackson 5 was an influence to Prince growing up, that says something. Peace
There's a lot of stigma around MJ that still lingers today for people who are younger and didn't grow up with his music: the child molestation allegations, his feminine voice/characteristics, and the overall craziness. I'm 22 and all I knew about MJ growing up were the negatives up until his death, it's all you heard about and he was the butt of a lot jokes. I'm not arguing whether he's better than Prince or not, but I think people should go out of their way to actually listen to MJ's music. Even Off the Wall, which was a huge album in its own right, gets overshadowed constantly and a lot of younger people who may have at least heard Thriller or Bad, probably haven't heard Off the Wall, which to me and a lot of other fans, think it's his best work, and he was only 20 at the time. And before that, his older music like with Forever, Michael, is great.
I saw both artists live a number of times over 15 to 20 years and this is what i thought about them. MJ was amazing live in the 80's both singing and dancing. I never liked his backing vocalists, They seemed weak to me. I saw him again in the 90's Dangerous tour and i thought i was watching the exact same show i watched years ago. Apart from some new songs it was the same dance routines and same postures. I saw Prince live in the 80's and thought he was incredible. His band and backing vocalists were so tight and great. His songs sounded different from the recording but actually better. I saw him again in the 90's and in 2014 and he would always rework his songs and they always sounded fresh. On top of that vocally live i always though Prince sounded much better and always more on the note than MJ. Prince didn't need to dance and yet captivated a crowd as much as MJ did dancing. MJ with recorded songs was obviously more successful and maybe more consistent, but i never thought of Prince as a chart artist like MJ was. I know it may sound like i'm biased towards Prince but for me the true test is what someone is like live and if i had a choice to watch 1 of them it would be Prince but on the record side i can't separate them. They were so different in content and style its crazy really to compare. I'm just glad i saw both in my lifetime!!
I like that fantano weighed up both sides of the Prince Michael Jackson arguement. And he gave his opinion in the most neutral way he could (by not shitting on mj’s aspects that he thinks prince done better)
I really like this "LET'S ARGUE" series, but it would be really dope if you could have an actual debate with someone on the other side of the argument. Maybe a fellow music critique or even a subscriber! Love the channel mayn
I love both artists for different reasons. They both put out a lot of material I personally did not like as well as a lot of songs that I will cherish for the rest of my life.
Michael Jackson > Prince Prince as an individual was extremely talented as he played multiple instruments, wrote, produced and recorded virtually everything himself, but he made a lot of songs that I just never cared for. MJ on the other hand, both as a solo artist and with The Jackson 5 had so many quality songs that are memorable and easy to like. The songs Michael himself wrote were up to bar with the songs he didn't write + he's by far the best dancer of the two. In terms of vocal ability/range they are pretty even, but I prefer the sound of Michael's voice overall.
This comparison always for me is the hardest to make a clear decision. Because I am a fan of both. And dug deeply into both artists music and personality by watching a lot of their interviews and reading their old write-ups. Prince was clearly more musical. When it comes to instrumentation and experimentation with different sounds, styles, and ETC. But what Michael Jackson couldn't do with instrumentation he did with his vocals and cleaned majority lyrics and simplified his style specifically so he could appeal globally; he touched on that in interviews. To people that didn't understand English but could understand rhythm. So with the understanding of both artists intentions. I think they were on different parallels going in a slightly different direction. Prince was more so into the art for the sake of the art. Michael Jackson had intentions to truly bring people to gather with his music. He knew he couldn't make it too artsy and too complex or it wouldn't translate effectively or as catchy, even though he had his artsy pieces. I do not think he was as artsy and complex as Prince could be. Cause Globally awareness and just numbers, Michael crushes Prince when it comes to just the pure reach (l know you acknowledged that earlier in the video.) But Prince's influence on actual artists and the music community is staggering as well. So I can see why you went with Prince.
Shadow So Prince was more musical, but it was MJ who communicated through music and rhythm...? Is it? Do you get you contradict yourself seriously? To create a musical language that reaches out to ppl regardless of culture, language, age, sex takes a VERY musical and VERY artistic person. MJs wisdom and knowledge on humanity in general obviously enormous. How many artists do you know, who created a global artistic language? Fantano went w/ Prince b/c he thinks MJ was weirder. As if he knew him, as if the media didn't creat a fake persoanlity around MJ (for obvious reasons), as if weirdness has anything to do w/ artistic imput, as if artists were "normal, average ppl" in general... And MJs influence isn't restricted to performing, either. His influence reaches beyond music. Just check the exhibition on MJs influence on visual arts.
MJ had the magic, Prince had the technical feats and incredible catalogue, but if you put them both on a stage...MJ is gonna draw the bigger applause. They're both great.
Alec Reyna No, MJ "stopped" singing live (well, partly) on HIStory tour... Two tours later... When lupus hit his lungs. But he danced full live, you know. Even w/ his inflammed lungs.
Richárd Kovács Yah they both aimed for different goals, MJ wanted to sell records and Prince wanted 100% creative and monetary control of his work. Prince did have 30+ tours in his life, and was the top selling touring artist for a couple of years, so he was definetly no slouch on stage either
Michael was well-aware of how great Prince was. He saw him as genuine competition. The entire Bad album was a direct response to Purple Rain, and the title track was meant to be a duet with him in the first place. So regardless of who you prefer, Prince was a major influence on Mike, and I'm not sure the same is true the other way around.
I didn’t realise Prince > MJ was even an unpopular opinion. MJ was a great singer and performer, but Prince is one of the the greatest singers/songwriters/guitarists/performers/personalities/style icons/lovers of all time..
Well, give me some facts cupcake, stop spitting just opinions! Give me some stats to prove him better! Because culture can lie about talent, but only for so long. You're telling me he stayed underrated and under-celebrated through 39 studio albums? Nah.
Ryan Cole GAMBINO VS. KANYE ?? I'M NOT BEING A SMARTASS , BUT WHO'S BETTER IN THAT SCENARIO ?? BECAUSE HONESTLY I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYMORE . SURE , KANYE CAME FIRST BUT NEITHER ONE OF THEM MAKES MUSIC THE WAY THEY USED TO . THE GOOD SONGMAKING FORMULA THAT THEY ONCE HAD HAS EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING ELSE . KANYE ONLY HAS ONE CLASSIC ALBUM THAT I CAN STILL LISTEN TO . GAMBINO ONLY HAS ONE CLASSIC ALBUM THAT I CAN STILL LISTEN TO . AND IF YOU'RE SAYING KANYE IS BETTER , REMEMBER THIS : IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED THAT KANYE HAS HAD A SHIT LOAD OF GHOSTWRITERS ON EVERY ALBUM PROJECT . KANYE DIDN'T EVEN DO THE BEATS ON HIS THIRD ALBUM . THAT JOB WAS GIVEN TO D.J. TOOMP.
Michael Jackson was always going to be a star, but QUINCY JONES took him to the next level. Prince could do EVERYTHING, and most things better than just about anyone. Look how many of his COVERS have been hits! Look at how many artists he helped launch to stardom! All respect to Michael Jackson, but Prince is one of the most versatile talents in music history. I would have loved to hear what nastiness he and Trent Reznor could have cooked up back in the mid-90s. Bowie, Prince and Reznor together on a mini-project, like 3 songs... One of my dream collaborations.
Michael Jackson was already a Superstar, and well established in the music industry when he met Quincy......But Michael would not have reached MEGA status without someone like Quincy .
@@chelsearogers1289 Oh yeah. For me, it's not inconceivable that Michael Jackson, had he not teamed up with Quincy Jones, could have been, album sales wise, on par with a group like the Commodores combined with Lionel Richie's solo career, more or less.
