There will be a separate video about drivers, PCI-E cards & co. Maybe next one. Meanwhile, I will update the description with more links of software and patches used in the video.
Awesome! Didn't know you can use Windows 3.1 drivers with Windows 98. I will try this on my Asus G750 gaming laptop. I managed to install Windows 98 a while ago but it wasn't really usable without a mouse.
I'm glad it helps but on that laptop you should try to get USB support first! Uninstall any unknown USB controllers in Device Manager then install this unofficial patch: www.philscomputerlab.com/windows-98-usb-storage-driver.html
In 5-10 years 86box and hopefully CPU's (single-core muscle) will have evolved enough to not have to do this. This is outright INSANE. It's pretty cool that you can do this though.
If anything beyond doing the ACPI off command line option when installing windows 98 is needed, it's too new of a computer and I can't let it get out to a customer who isn't technical!
CSM & fully backwards compatible X86 configurations will be a thing in 2034, but reserved for the industrial sector. Something like ISA slots are right now... If you look at his H310 motherboard with ISA slots - CPUs will be available until: *"15-Year CPU Life Cycle Support Until Q4' 33 (Based on Intel IOTG Roadmap)"* www.dfi.com/product/index/150
I can't wait until I can emulate a 1.6GHz Pentium III at full speed. By that point, maybe some more powerful GPUs can make their way into 86Box as well.
The most important part of any chipset, the one related disk hardware is covered by the AHCI universal driver released by R. Loew. You simply install that driver and your SATA SSD will work at over 200MB/s transfer rates, SATA CD/DVD drives will be recognized also. You should watch this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BulG6-1XOe0.html . There are some universal USB drivers that will work up to Intel Haswell generation motherboards (2014) - or you can buy a PCI-E to USB 2.0 card. The integrated LAN can be used with DOS drivers. (not the best option). HD sound won't work. In rest everything related to the PCI bus up to the PC speaker is standardized you don't need any extra drivers.
My fav youtube channel. It would be greatly appreciated if you can make a guide on how you get the 7900 GS to work. As always, looking forward to ya next video. Cheers, Omores!
I'm glad you like it, my next video is coming soon, also about Windows 98... This time on NVMe! I will insert a section about nVidia drivers. Stay tuned...
/P I will disable ACPI - modern motherboards have newer ACPI revisions that are not compatible with Windows 98, that's why you get a blue screen. Most of the time that blue screen will let you continue the installation, I did many times when I wasn't aware about "/p i".
No problem. Btw, if you install with /P I the PCI bus won't get installed. This is a big problem when installing drivers. You have to install it manually as shown at the end of this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OvYUouo8tvg.html
All 32bit software runs perfectly fine on a modern CPU and Windows 98. Don't forget that in Windows 10/11 there are still lots of 32bit software still running.
There are gigabit PCI cards with Windows 98 32bit drivers from Intel and Realtek. I haven't found a PCI-E card yet. Some early PCI-E Realtek cards are supposed to be Windows 98 compatible. Once I had a PCI-E gigabit card from Broadcom that worked with Windows NT 3.51 from 1995... But this is not a big surprise since NT was about servers and networks... I don't have that card anymore to see if it works in 98.
Merge, cum sa nu, o sa ramana vreo cateva chestii nerezolvate prin Device Manager, dar chestii nesemnificative. Bonus: pentru Windows 7 64bit sunt drivere relativ recente de la nVidia, inclusiv pentru seriile RTX 3xxx: www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/drivers/results/166656/
Not necessarily. Modern BIOSes do not offer this option anymore. You can use AHCI which can handle natively real mode requests - so your drive will work under Windows 9x in "MS-DOS compatibility mode".
@@roiapl1868 Yep, all the nVidia cards up to 7900 series - including Quadro variants - released before they switched to Unified shaders (CUDA cores). Also the first generation of ATI PCI-E cards are working great in Windows 98/Me without any patching required. From the second generation of ATI PCI-E cards many entry level and mid range cards (like ATI X1300) are still based on the previous generation chips - technically with some driver patching you might get them installed in Windows 98 but no one bothered because the last generation nVidia cards are much better.
Windows 98 will install with a USB mouse as long the USB chipset is recognized. This of course is not the case with newer motherboards. Anyway you can install it without a mouse (and deal with drivers later) - just use your keyboard Enter/Space to press a button - TAB to jump between buttons and select them. ALT + underlined letter to select an option or a button, e.g. - ALT + N to press the NEXT button.
Well... there is the following switch for Windows 98 setup.exe : "/l This switch enables a Logitech mouse during Setup. " So you should modify the .cab file where lmouse.drv resides and replace it with the lmouse.drv from Windows 3.11 (there is also a link in description to this file) I never tried it, but this switch that forces setup to specifically use a Logitech mouse helps a lot in this scenario...
@@O_mores can i add drivers on Windows 98 Setup? of course: must big problem is the drivers... so i need add several drivers for help me... i can add drivers on Windows 98, but i don't know how :(
@@joaquimjesus6134 You can't add drivers. Windows 98 will install only with minimal basic drivers and then you can start installing. Anyway did you tried installing with a USB mouse?
Unfortunately, ACPI tends to cause stress in newer systems. While Initializing device CONFIGMG: Windows Protection Error. You need to restart...If you turn this off, the error does not occur. The SATA controller likes to mess around and only runs in MS-DOS compatibility mode or, as an IDE controller, shows errors with yellow exclamation marks. With PCI SATA or IDE controllers you have peace of mind again.
Yes, you have to stay away from ACPI in Windows 98. To bad you can't select ACPI version in BIOS. What SATA controller do you have? I used the R. Loew's AHCI patch and it works very stable with an Asus H610 motherboard for 12/13/14th Gen CPUs. I ran on this configuration Half Life 2 copied into a SATA drive - and maxed all out - it was pretty stressful for the system, but I didn't crash once. Here's my latest video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZBGmhiASz7U.html
@@O_mores Thanks, I saw it last night - great! It is the Intel Cougar Point PCH (H61) SATA Controller. R. Loew's patches don't work here. Either it freezes with the SATA patch or with AHCI the AHCI INF from R. Loew does not fit the device in AHCI mode... In any case, 98 refuses to install on this motherboard. In IDE compatibility mode, only the DVD drive is recognized correctly, but the disk always runs in DOS mode
@@chrisrudi7162 The SATA ports must be set in AHCI mode because your are trying to install standard AHCI drivers. If the AHCI mode is set and still doesn't work correctly here's a tip: make an USB stick bootable with DOS and copy your Windows 98 installation there - Windows folder/Program Files + config.sys should be enough. Boot Windows 98 from the USB stick with your SATA drive connected. Once the installation is done restart and check if everything is OK in control Panel and do some reading tests etc. Now rename Windows folder from the SSD with something like Winold... and copy Windows folder from the USB stick. Now it should work.
@@O_mores In addition to the Intel SATA controller, the Supermicro C7H61-L mainboard also has an ASM1061 controller for 2 SATA3 (6 Gbps) port installed. R. Loew's patch works there. The problem only affects the chipset's Intel SATA controller. The AHCI drivers cannot be installed in AHCI mode. 98 thinks that the driver doesn't match the hardware. So I can't even get into AHCI mode with it. But thanks for the advice. With the ASMEDIA chip it now worked. Everything is fine, the system works perfectly. I only attached the optical drive to the Intel. This saves me an additional SATA controller card and I can use the PCI for something else...
Artifacting should disappear once you install drivers. You need Universal VBE 9x Display Driver: bearwindows.zcm.com.au/vbe9x.htm Before installing driver, try to bring Windows 98 up to date by installing Unofficial SP3 pack: www.techtalk.cc/viewtopic.php?t=65
@@O_mores i solved the gpu problem , now last question please i installed win98 on pen drive which it runs hella slow , and also i have trouble running ms-dos it shows whenver i run it that's it's an illegal operation :/
What CPU are you using? Don't you have a spare SATA SSD? Just make it DOS bootable as shown in the video, then copy Windows folder & Program Files and what's in the root like config.sys etc, you don't have to reinstall it.
@@O_mores I used nusb 33 driver and it worked everything worked normaly. I connected my hdd 2.5 to 2x usb ports and drive showed up in my computer it worked...
@@O_mores But Idk how to fix ct5880 I have sound card pci I install drivers it doesnt wanna work I know the card is ok I have ess1868 isa card it doesnt wanna work either...
@@fitlifeinsider Can you install Windows ME on separate partition to test the card on your configuration...? (even if you know it works) Windows ME has included drivers for these Creative/Ensoniq sound cards and you should get sound once it's installed. What drivers are you using? You can try to use some older drivers like the one that came on CD: archive.org/details/creative-labs-sound-blaster-pci-64-CD
I guess won't happen very soon because once the source code is available projects like ReactOS will become more powerful and practical and a cloned Windows OS can gain market share. (let's not forget that China intends to ban Microsoft products)
Well, it totally doable on that Dell. Just make sure SATA works in IDE mode. You can get USB support on this PC by installing NUSB drivers for audio you should find a PCI card.
Yes, it should work, I did test an RTX 2070 super in Windows 98 and it worked with generic VBE drivers, the rest is pretty much the same hardware as in the video.
@@sqiuddyplays I'm using a smaller stick formatted FAT16. I used UNetootin hundreds of times. It gets the job done. Maybe you can find a 2GB stick and use FAT16 as file system, although it shouldn't matter.
My main computer has a Ryzen 9 3900X and of course I have Windows 98 running... (with the help of Voodoo 3 PCI) If that Gigabyte motherboard has CSM then it should work. nVidia GPUs are working too, here I have 7900GS running in a multi boot setup 98 + XP + 11: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3nCSGApJGbQ.html
@@Glinckey My next video will be about installing nVidia PCI-E cards in Windows 98. If don't want to wait just read the instructions: archive.org/details/PTCHNVSZ
You still can install Windows 95 or 98 on it. I mean it works on 13th Gen... On 8th Gen is even easier to install Windows 9x - you dont' need #cregfix.
I'm assuming that you have trouble while running MS-DOS from Windows. Did you try to restart in MS-DOS mode and play some games to see it works normally? This way you know is not something specific to your PC (like a dodgy BIOS version) and it's related to your Windows 98 configuration.
There is a whole story with DOS and memory, do you have himem.sys enabled with /M:1 switch like in the video? Some games (like Ultima or Elder Scrolls) require EMS memory to be enabled (you need to use EMM386) and so on. Anyway Prince should work on most systems, double check your config.sys - do you have this line DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /M:1 and himem.sys it's in the root of C: ?
@@O_mores ill Check mate , btw I’m getting special sound card for win98 I just surrendered trying Realtek and I’m getting an old Nvidia 7200 with modified drivers I would like also to try ati fire pro if it works
