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Let's repair a Socket 7 mainboard: Biostar MB-8500TVX-A 

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@djdano2k
@djdano2k 4 месяца назад
Great repair & rescue! Loved the close-up operation on the broken chip, very interesting! Thanks for all the information.
@SaltyMeatHook
@SaltyMeatHook 4 месяца назад
"Which torture I have in mind for this board." Dude has methods.
@yosemite-e2v
@yosemite-e2v 4 месяца назад
Your soldering skills inspire me to get better. I had one of these (though a different revision; from images online it seems to have been a Rev 2.1) and I used a 200 MHz Evergreen Winchip upgrade CPU. Later on I tried a 450 MHz K6-2 (6x66=400) and I used it for a while that way. Blissfully ignorant of the issues with linear voltage regulators, one hot summer evening I heard a loud pop, and the board was dead. I had no idea why at the time, but years later I found out about how linear regulators heat up when run outside of their design specifications and I realized why the board died.
@yosemite-e2v
@yosemite-e2v 4 месяца назад
This was in early 2001 and I knew little about computers at the time. When I bought the Evergreen upgrade CPU, the board wouldn't POST with it. Though I had purchased it on Ebay, I sent Evergreen an email, and they answered me right away, recommending a BIOS update. I tried updating it to the latest BIOS Biostar offered, but it still wouldn't POST. They then sent me a BIOS as an email attachment, and that one worked. That happy moment when you hit the power switch and hear the POST beep!
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Yes, one day we all learned this in the one way or another :)
@WarPhotographer1974
@WarPhotographer1974 4 месяца назад
I worked on a mom and pop computer shop in the late 90’s, and I built so many computers using that motherboard. Good memories 😊
@badrolix
@badrolix 4 месяца назад
You are one of the best!
@tennickjestzajety69
@tennickjestzajety69 4 месяца назад
One of my favorite repairs channel uploaded a video again!
@the1990kman
@the1990kman 4 месяца назад
I never thought it was possible to repair broken ic chips like that. Great work!
@Stratotank3r
@Stratotank3r 4 месяца назад
Bester Mann um Boards zu retten! Good job as always.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Danke 🤙
@MrVipeg
@MrVipeg 4 месяца назад
Great repair video! Exactly as we all like. Thank you.
@smartperson1
@smartperson1 4 месяца назад
I've never seen anyone cut into a package like that wow! You're a real necromancer!
@marceloaug
@marceloaug 4 месяца назад
I am really impressed with your skills in reparing the controller chip. Awesome work. Greetings from Brazil.
@LeeMc007
@LeeMc007 4 месяца назад
Excellent repair again, love your channel, your knowledge and skills are just brilliant.
@edmil1616
@edmil1616 4 месяца назад
Excellent board repair! A masterful work! Congratulations from Brazil.
@JosepsGSX
@JosepsGSX 4 месяца назад
I will be waiting for the next one, as you indeed have my curiosity about the test. Thanks for sharing!
@pavelfara9333
@pavelfara9333 4 месяца назад
There is one interesting thing about this board. It has 2x PS/2 port which is quite nice feature for a retro build!
@curtisator42
@curtisator42 4 месяца назад
Theres a newer version of Phil's benchmarking suite that includes a Doom bench that's been modified to give you FPS results so you dont have to do the conversion yourself. :)
@glitchwrks
@glitchwrks 4 месяца назад
Nice save! I had to dig out four pins in a Voodoo2 FBI that had broken off flush with the package a few months ago. I usually seal those repairs with some two-part epoxy.
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 4 месяца назад
Ein weiterer Tag, eine weitere Hauptplatine auf dem OP-Tisch.
@danielpetrov9179
@danielpetrov9179 4 месяца назад
Another great restoration video. I have the same board with some missing components, can you please tell me the values of CT28, CT29, CT20, CT13 and what RAM TAG do you use?
@Raul_Gajadhar
@Raul_Gajadhar 4 месяца назад
❤Fantastic job! You should use some epoxy on that repair though, moisture/corrosion may work its way up the legs of exposed pins all the way into the chip.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I ordered already some.
@AJComputerServicesUK
@AJComputerServicesUK 4 месяца назад
Good Video as always: “Mr Necroware!”, I had a pleasant surprise a few days ago, I popped round my Brother’s as I had left some Old Computer Stuff at his about 25 years ago, I’d completely forgot that I’d left a box of Motherboards round there including 286, 386, 486 & Pentium 2, They were all destined for the Car Boot Sale back then and they had been priced at £2 & £3 each except the 486 which had a Price-Tag on of £8 and the P2 was up for £20, I was chuffed to bit discovering my lost Treasure after all those years, 2 of the 386 Motherboards have suffered from leaky Batteries but I think I’ve caught the 1 just in time and the other one doesn’t look too bad, I’ve been on the hunt for a good 486 Motherboard to replace my Poorly 486 that I’ve got here & I can’t believe it actually has a CR2032 Socket installed on the Motherboard, No signs of any Damage so just hope it will drop into my 486 Chassis without any problems, The only negative is that it doesn’t have any VESA Slots, Oh well, It could be worse I suppose! Anthony - Birmingham/UK 🙂🇬🇧
@AJComputerServicesUK
@AJComputerServicesUK 4 месяца назад
I’ll definitely be uploading Videos of them on here as soon as I get chance! 🙂
@sebastian19745
@sebastian19745 3 месяца назад
I have the same motherboard that I used for a Win95 PC build. As you said, the Dallas RTC battery was dead and I solderd a coin cell on the module to make the motherboard boot again. The BIOS on my motherboard have the HDD capacity limitation to 8G and is not Y2K compliant. However, it works ok. The -A in the motherboard name means that the keyboard connector is AT not PS/2 (as I remember to have seen in an old pdf. manual that I found on a old CD with a BIOS upgrade for it). I removed the AT keyboard socket and replaced with a PS/2 connector like your motherboard have, so I can use any regular keyboard without an adapter. It seems to me that your moterboard had the same mod from the factory or made by previous user. Mine is rev 2.1.
@teknologyguy5638
@teknologyguy5638 4 месяца назад
Hope to see what is in store for part 2
@Luke-rr9po
@Luke-rr9po 4 месяца назад
Excellent video! I also have this board revision 2.1, needs a new clock chip like all the others. Thanks for another excellent video! 😊
@tellyjoossens4186
@tellyjoossens4186 4 месяца назад
Although you mention it as not very special, these boards were one of the most reliant and quite versatile (and fast) boards at the time and at a very small form factor. At the time, there was a lot of crap on the market. Mostly the big brands computers were less interesting. You were better off owning a clone pc with decent components.
@janbeck8269
@janbeck8269 4 месяца назад
Thank you for another great video
@bassbustingman
@bassbustingman 4 месяца назад
nice socket 7 on board hdd /fdd support isa and pci plus ps/2 for mouse and keybord on the board nice
@scrap_computing
@scrap_computing 4 месяца назад
Nice! Great job dremeling the chip :D
@pc-sound-legacy
@pc-sound-legacy 4 месяца назад
Großartig✌️
@clintcolombin
@clintcolombin 4 месяца назад
Socket a 12885 & add a CR2032 battery holder next to it where it's currently unpopulated? I've seen others do the same with mixed results.
@FeArhsma21
@FeArhsma21 4 месяца назад
Love this channel thank you for the things that you do. God Bless my friend!
@nogokam
@nogokam 4 месяца назад
In one of your videos you are using hand to find overheated element. Why don't you use a thermal camera? It would be so much easier and much more fun to watch😊
@gherosh
@gherosh 4 месяца назад
Great revival video!
@dedicatedmusiclistener2301
@dedicatedmusiclistener2301 4 месяца назад
you are a repair wizard
@tigheklory
@tigheklory 4 месяца назад
To the Iron Maiden with that board!!! LOL
@TheChimeraMan
@TheChimeraMan 4 месяца назад
Fantastic video as usual. I have the same board but is dead. 😢
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Then you know what to do ;)
@TheChimeraMan
@TheChimeraMan 4 месяца назад
Probably dead RTC module
@Hessi
@Hessi 4 месяца назад
03:30 Eier aus Kruppstahl. Respekt.
@LauncherMax
@LauncherMax 4 месяца назад
Hi Necroware! Great repair as usual! I made my own bios for motherboards based on sis 85c496/497 chipset. It can run msdos just on L2 cache without ram at all. Sounds crazy but it works. Ping me if you want to try it
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Wow, that sounds cool! I'll keep your offer in mind.
@pavelmusiyenko
@pavelmusiyenko 4 месяца назад
Nice!
@GameBacardi
@GameBacardi 4 месяца назад
Coming look this later
@CallumRepairs
@CallumRepairs 4 месяца назад
Nice repair!
@MarkusQu
@MarkusQu 4 месяца назад
Nice repair! Sadly, no Ami Winbios :)
@Soup_it
@Soup_it 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@glenncaughey5044
@glenncaughey5044 4 месяца назад
At 3:42 anyone else instinctively blow on the screen to clear the dust? 😅
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
LOL :)
@peachgrush
@peachgrush 4 месяца назад
The working BIOS images seem to have "-F" at the end of their BIOS string (the leftmost column in the table). Wondering if it corresponds to the UMC I/O chip's designation ending with "F" :)
@dapperwounded
@dapperwounded 4 месяца назад
I love your work. I need to find out if any e waste facilities by me sell "functional" bits. I've been trying to find anything i can at rummage sales but nothing good pops up lately.
@pwissink1
@pwissink1 4 месяца назад
Good video as always. But I really like the music around 4-5min. Which song is it?
@brotherdg1
@brotherdg1 4 месяца назад
Hi! CF may not work in LBA mode. You could try normal CHS
@ajax700
@ajax700 4 месяца назад
9:00 What is that VIA-II chip on the left? Best wishes.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Keyboard controller
@SireSquish
@SireSquish 4 месяца назад
Cliffhanger?! NOOO
@whalesurfs
@whalesurfs 4 месяца назад
The Biostar MB-8500TUC-A is virtually the same board, just with the better i430HX chipset and an extra PCI slot. The only downside compared to your MB-8500TVX-A is that it doesn't support dual-voltage as required by MMX, and as far as I know, no room for a VRM. Ever consider making a VRM like on the one on the PODPMT66X200 ???
@dirkruppol3850
@dirkruppol3850 4 месяца назад
@necroware what type of eeprom reader do you use for reading/writing eeprom modules?
@FROGGS01
@FROGGS01 4 месяца назад
I bet he's attaching an analog clock power by a lemon or two.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Everybody knows, that it needs at least three lemons.... and a potato ;)
@FROGGS01
@FROGGS01 4 месяца назад
​@@necro_warewould be fun if the next thumbnail picture would actually show lemons. :op
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 4 месяца назад
LOL torture for this board.. that is too funny.
@ljrretropcs
@ljrretropcs 4 месяца назад
Likely those other bios images would have worked if the tag chip was present
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately no. I didn't mention it in the video, but that was my first assumption as well.
@ljrretropcs
@ljrretropcs 4 месяца назад
@@necro_ware Ahhh thats a shame!
@nerdmeister2
@nerdmeister2 4 месяца назад
This mainboard was used in my first PC, a 1996 „network“ branded (Mediamarkt) Pentium 150, 32MB RAM, a slow & noisy 1.6GB Seagate HDD, a 4MB VGA with a weird Cirrus Logic chipset, totally useless for the upcoming 3D games. Spent 1999 DM for this spec sheet blender 😢
@FOIL_FRESH
@FOIL_FRESH 4 месяца назад
whats your tool to grind the plastic away near the legs? i have a cheap dremel. i need to repair a voodoo 2 in a similar fashion. 3 chips all with fatal pin leg breaks.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
I use dremel, or engraving tool.
@FOIL_FRESH
@FOIL_FRESH 4 месяца назад
@@necro_ware thanks
@g4z-kb7ct
@g4z-kb7ct 4 месяца назад
What's the part number on the 28 pin cache tag chip? Thanks.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Any 32K SRAM chip would fit, it just has to be fast enough. I tried 15ns, but less would be better.
@rallyscoot
@rallyscoot 4 месяца назад
You said MSI MB... mainboard on 0:34 seconds? Its a biostar.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Yeah, sorry, fixed it later at 6:29. I was fixing two mainboards simultaneously, one was MSI, the other Biostar, so I confused myself.
@OscarSommerbo
@OscarSommerbo 4 месяца назад
Drillling into an IC was nervewracking to watch.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
:)
@Santia558
@Santia558 4 месяца назад
Your next video will be to install a battery socket, rtc chip, crystal, and capacitor in the existing, but empty pads on the motherboard.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Almost, let me surprise you ;)
@beastworm
@beastworm 4 месяца назад
@@necro_ware @TheParallelPort did this in his last video (second channel of the serial port) Funny enough, he shows your clock in the video
@5mf1nc
@5mf1nc 4 месяца назад
how that 16000KB memory comes to be? it should be 16384KB (technically KiB but that is so stupid) as that is 16x1024KB (or if they use the "HDD-type KB" then it would be 16777KB) -- oh, later with the 32Megs it counts to 32384KB so where is the missing 384K?
@ville_syrjala
@ville_syrjala 4 месяца назад
I'd assume it's not counting any of the memory in the 640KB-1MB range as that's where the ROMs get mapped.
@D4rk4ng3l83
@D4rk4ng3l83 4 месяца назад
Der Kanal hat eindeutig zu wenig Abonnenten. The channel clearly has too few subscribers.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Danke für das Lob!
@AncapDude
@AncapDude 4 месяца назад
Which osci do you use?
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
I get this question almost every video :) It's Fnirsi-5012H
@AncapDude
@AncapDude 4 месяца назад
@@necro_ware I thought so ^^ Make a standard description block with these infos and paste it under every video xD
@blackwidowrsa
@blackwidowrsa 4 месяца назад
watching you solder makes me disheartened, i can't even desolder a capacitor
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Don't be disheartened, it's all a question of practice. Keep in mind, that I'm actually a software developer and couldn't solder at all at one point back in time.
@scottrich976
@scottrich976 4 месяца назад
Why put so much effort into a mediocre board ? Top of the range maybe, but these boards were bad at the time they came out.
@necro_ware
@necro_ware 4 месяца назад
Nothing you see on this channel make a lot of sense :) This is just a hobby, however this board gives a good opportunity to experiment with something, what I would like to talk about in the next video.
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 4 месяца назад
Looking at all these old boards, it's all mediocre if we compare it to even slightly newer stuff. If something can be repaired and brought back to life for a new use then it's worthwhile in my opinion.
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