Let's talk about Elizabeth Cochran, pinky, Nellie Bly and the white rabbit.... 

Badly behaved men make too much history.

@michael dowson Dunno. Do you? Without having looked it up first? Yeah, sure, right...

I think that goes for men too. Of course, "well behaved" is relative to the status quo at the time.

@michael dowson Mrs Gandhi?

Eliza Hamilton?

Fortunately both Alice and Neo can deliver the same point.

Some of your audience is too young to remember the Matrix (and haven't watched it). Funny thing is I never liked books i had to read in school, so I never read Alice in Wonderland (and that is despite the fact that I read 150-250 books a year). But since in English speaking world the term "white rabbit" is quite prevalent, I learned fast what it meant - before the Matrix, which I rented from VHS rental on September 10th 2001 and decided to watch next day. Obviously there was a lot of news "flying" that day. So in the late evening, I thought I will catch a break and watch it. I was sick with images of something flying hitting the tall buildings. Let's just say that it took me a while to watch this movie in whole (not to mention appreciate it) and I still feel weird when Helicopter hits the building and deforms it in slow-mo. As a movie quite good, but being already well read in philosophical sci-fi (mostly Stanisław Lem) the idea of world within world and dreaming various layers of reality and waking up wasn't as groundbreaking to me as to lot of People. Sorry, I just saw Matrix and remembered THE SCENE. P.S. Polish Television showed that evening "The Independence Day" - I didn't watch it, so I don't even remember if they cancelled it or not (I know there was stink regardless). But I knew the movie, so I was like: No thank you.

To be fair, they both represent chasing an adventure...

*sigh* Adopt, adapt, and improve.

I'll go ask for you.

@88Gibson LesPaul Not so sure your Alexander reference is the one you want. Young Alexander, not long after his fathers assassination, left his home in Macedon with 30-33 K Macedonian troops. In the next dozen years he conquered most of the known world- several times losing large portions of that 33k army. And always was able to recruit it up from the remains of the conquered. He had no home, Alexander, so where ever he went, he founded an Alexandria. And he did such a good job of it, most are still named Alexandria, many leagues away from Ancient Macedon. Alexander is fascinating- able, at 16, to convince most of his late father's generals and leaders that he had promise and he was worth their loyalty. Those men followed that boy to the ends of the earth and he died. I suspect Alexander is not you average Bronze Age war Lord at all, we've only hints left now.

@Snaggle Toothed And after being "punished" the army (that was at least 60% non Macedonians by then) didn't desert. As to a 16 year old boy being "in the mix" of his father's assassination, that conjecture has been raised many times since the '50s- no substance I 'm aware of- the bloody knife so far doesn't have any recorded"fingerprints" to tie it to Alexander. A's mom, the Queen has also been named and there are bits and pieces that "sort of" support that- but no visible proof. The Armies of Antiquity have largely been loyal or faithful to good leaders- leaders who led them to victories. Leaders who allow themselves to be diminished by "caving" to the demands from the Army lose that loyalty and cohesion- Alexander's Army didn't do that. Why? Which is a better question to be asking than whether Alexander should be remembered as Alex the Damned or Alexander the Great. What ever his flaws, the Army and those pesky generals, largely stayed by Alexander. If you can come up with some credentialed source that is willing to stick his/her neck out in print, I'm willing to plow back through it. Me, I'm a reader; Alexander the Great has been the subject of innumerable graduate papers and books over the years- Harvard Light Publishing (I believe that is the way Harvard U's internal publishing house is styled) has published dozens of papers and several of those books alone. There is lots of material, but not one real "witness"- what little there is seems tied to people who had direct stake in that murder- that (I think) 3 or so of Phillip's generals were executed for the crime and the rest seem to have voluntarily joined Alexander's cause. Since I'm just an Armchair Historian, I'll leave the floor for anyone from that world to enlighten both of us.

@Snaggle Toothed And most of them were not Macedonians and much closer to their homes. Why didn't they revolt and dessert?Why, 2400 years after Alexander and his conquest ended, are all those cities named for that one foreign conqueror still called Alexandria? ST, I'm not ducking or downing you- Alexander leaves almost as many questions as answers in his wake, and I find it difficult to take any "hard and fast" analysis w/o references. You retelling about the desert punishment comes from on of Alexander's court secretaries, I believe; some one at least as trustworthy as Julius (who would become Ceasar) Greek slave secretary that actually wrote Julius' Letters to the Senate and People of Rome. Another fine political puff piece from antiquity. Never forget that sources like that are what that era would consider the "PR Dept". At the end of the day, for you and I ST, I suspect that we've had very different instruction backgrounds about Alexander- their have been at least two competing "Alexander theories" since I was a youngster ('50s). More than one of my instructors, including College, had differing views than the "Alex is a Hero" story- some were as dark as you have laid out, some were about a child King, elevated at his father's murder, but sent out of his kingdom to perish or fail, but not come home. The truth is somewhere[ likely somewhere on the plain that lies between those two goal posts. Have a great day and thanks for helping a retired old fossil get through his day!

@Snaggle Toothed Lot of detail, which I believe is largely correct- I think Alex's age at his father's murder was 16, but it makes little difference- Phillip's old generals chose Alexander, even thought hey knew he might not be able to return to rule in his own name. The murderous nature of that era's political class is breath taking, and not only in Greece- Egyptian dynastic history is pretty bloody too! Again, the only texts we have, from some very partisan witnesses, are not to be wholly trusted. There is not likely to be any better archaeological evidence to be found- those partisans are about all we have - and all those Alexandrias, which have kept that name for 2000 years now- a name , not of a local hero or founder, but of a conqueror. How many towns etc are named for William the Conqueror? Or Attilla the Hun? All the conquerors I'm familiar with loved "leaving their mark". Maybe I'm doing this wrong; I'm trying to say that really old history from a time when literacy was likely under 1% is more iffy than not. You would like to be "The Right Answer". There is a reason I have not characterized any of what you have said as "mistakes"- neither of us, with college libraries full of papers and books can definitively say this or that is "the truth". And even if you were substantially correct (and you may be), all those conquered places accepting and keeping that conquerors name long after he died and his armies disbanded, tell me and others there is something not quite visible in the sketchy written pieces on Alexander and why he became what he did. PS If you want to do your detailed "list of my sins", please give me a bibliography to work from- you have not presented any credential so far that makes you any more or less authoritative than my sources. As I said several times, we could both be somewhat right. BTW , testimony after a murder from people who likely are part of the plot (Phillip's second wife, or first for that matter) are highly suspect of being very self serving. No court sat and deliberated that whodunit- just 2300 years of historians, and they never got things wrong, did they?

@Snaggle Toothed But the army and his father's old generals followed him to the literal end of the world, even after the desert punishment- that I had forgot, honestly. Then there are all those Alexandrias that have never thrown off the conqueror's name.

Sending good thoughts your way.💜

@@kellymaldia128, thank you, so much. So far the recovery has been rather easier than I remember as this is my 12th time dealing with this issue. The previous times occurred while I was an infant child.

The lengths people will go to just to binge on Beau!!! I wish you a speedy recovery.

Bingeing Beau is good for the mind body and soul

@@joaquincortada1483, in my case gotta keep that mind active, Lmfao.

What a cool person to have in your family tree! A true adventurer!

Jessica Lutseck : I am a deep admirer of your great-great-great aunt. She was a badass from the beginning. My grandmother had the Nellie Bly Round the World board game when she was a little girl - loved it!

I doubt she'd be content to be your entertainer for the evening.

@@HisameArtwork You must be very young.

@Snaggle Toothed I'm trying really hard to get her take chances while she has "backup," her dad and I since she turns 16 tomorrow. She's been cautious since birth. I never treated her as fragile or a "girl." She is 2nd degree black belt. She wants to be an engineer and I know she will be. She is more hard wired like her dad. My son lives life to the fullest. He always jumps at chances to try anything new. He a risk taker and a strong moral compass, right and wrong. He wants to make a difference. He is wired like my side of the family. It's always strange to have 2 kids raised the same, but their hard wiring is so different.

@@kellymaldia128 it is good that you recognize their differences, just be supportive and she'll find her feet once she gets finished with the gauntlet that is high school.

Tell your kids that it's never too late to find your bliss. I didn't figure it out til I was 30. But everything I did gave me a broad education and a group of supportive friends that when I was ready, everything fell into place. Never give up.

@@kellymaldia128 Bless you for your recognition that different is sometimes difficult, but not bad! I had twin girls when my son was only 17 months old! From birth on, I strongly encouraged them to be the individuals that they truly are. Even baking separate birthday cakes! Happily, the are fraternal & appear not at all like sisters, much less twins! Today? One of them is a successful Funeral Director/Mortician! I think the other is still working for the State Department, but that is a sad Hole I won't go down today! 😢

Hey there first comment. :-)

autohmae 🙂

doesnt always end well.... and you cant get back the time.... Meh.. Regrets....

@@gepisar That's a good advice if you want to live a mundane life. Nothing wrong with playing it safe, but most people will regret doing that even more than trying to something and failing at it. Fortune favors the bold, my friend. And failure builds character - and leaves you with some amazing memories!

@@gepisar Better to have tried something than spend your life regretting not trying. Now that really is a waste of time.

@@DennisMoore664 ive tried PLENTY... just sayin, it doesnt always have an happy ending. SOMETIMES, i would have been better off staying in bed - at least no damage or losses would have occurred.

@@gepisar I get what you are saying. I absolutely agree that things don't always work out and we should have done things differently or not at all but you'll never know if you don't try. Good on you for trying PLENTY (don't get all uppercase about it - no one appreciates being yelled at and it makes you look bad). But just because you might fail is a terrible reason for not trying. You also might succeed but if you don't try you'll never know. Nothing ventured nothing gained. There will always be damage and pain and lose in life - that's part of being alive and will happen regardless of whether you stay in bed or not. Hopefully we learn from the failures and don't repeat them. But sometimes it takes falling down a few times before we figure it out - sometimes we never figure it out. Sometimes we only hurt ourselves but sometimes we get hurt by others or even worse we end up hurting others and we have to try and fix the damage we've caused the best we can. But sometimes you can't even do that and if you are a decent person you have to carry that burden with you for the rest of your days. No one gets out of here without regrets, but that's no reason to advocate staying in bed and not trying. Meh - you'll probably complain about this too because I'm just an asshole who doesn't get it, right? Do me a favor and keep your bad attitude to yourself, please. I have enough problems staying positive and not falling into a bad place and I don't need any more of your negativity and advocacy for burying your head under your covers. Just stop - you aren't helping.

@42 jade that's true. Sometimes it just seems like there are so many less. Thanks for the reminder.

Sadly you'll hear about more of them when they've gone.

@@margaretnicol3423 true. That kind of thing rarely gets recognized while the person is alive.

One group of women I do admire are the foreign correspondents and camera women. They go right into battle zones just to make sure we get informed of what's happening there. Many have been killed over the years but they just keep doing the job.

If you felt that way you'd never leave the house.

@@margaretnicol3423 Lots of people never leave the house.

@@gagrin1565 True. How sad is that? That's when neighborhoods need to come together.

@@margaretnicol3423 I don't disagree, but there is also a sentiment here that everyone should be striving towards the same goal (i.e. adventure and opportunity) and I certainly don't have the temperament for that and I doubt I ever will.

@@gagrin1565 Nothing wrong with having a goal but it could be to read one of the old classics that you've been meaning to do for years or having a good game of chess with another good player. It could be learning to crochet or decorate a room. Anything that let's you tick a box and makes you happy when you've ticked it. However, if you get offered a ticket on the next flight to the moon ...?

Serena Sorensen 😃

Sage898 __ I have seen this one before though. Apt as always.

bravejango12 What??? I loved that show! I don’t remember much of it now. It’s been what 15 years or more? Probably time to go back and re-watch it.

@bravejango12 Great show! It’s on NETFLIX! Which episode was that?

@@briansmutti Season 2 Episode 5. The scene starts at 32:15

That's the first thing that came to my mind when i saw the reference to nelly bly. Great show! I miss the bartlett administration. 😥

@@moimeself1088 being from New Hampshire, there's a plaque right down the road, the Bartlett house is right there too. I always thought that the tv show captured some of our new England spirit. And he reminded me of JFK. Not perfect, but he always tried to make things better for all Americans. Imho, Bernie's probably the closest to that are going to find. Sometimes I just hate politics, ya know what I mean? In NH we do take our obligations to go see the candidates, meet them, and ask questions that haven't been asked yet very seriously.

She is a hero of mine, and an inspiration to write.

Cheryl Ford Ditto. I like my known order and my ducks that I count over and over again.

Cheryl Ford, don’t feel too bad. She was also lucky. Some who go down the rabbit hole get buried there.

Evil Sharkey 😱

Never to late for change. Just remember, the only people that fail, are the ones that tried. Never be afraid to fail. First Attempt In Learning.

It's not too late.

Jim A 💯 I fear failure so much that I have stayed on the sidewalk for most of my life. Oh well, too late to change my entire life.

Jim A, unless they die. Then they stop trying. She was extremely brave but also very lucky, especially at that time.

😏

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@@borisbadenov8613 Thank you for the link! Dammit I truly am old af! I did watch The Smothers Brothers in my youth, but seriously? 1967? My usual go to for that song is her performance at Woodstock, two years later!

Another very clever woman.

@@margaretnicol3423 thank you. She was amazing

@Brexit Refugee Do yourself a favor, and do as the OP suggests. It's Hedy, not Hedley.

@luvcheney1 Yes, but HEDY was a woman, you ignoramus.

@Brexit Refugee omg. You think that the fictional character named Hedley Lamarr (a male) is REAL? And the REAL actress Hedey Lamar's - a REAL woman - is fictional? You do know that they made fun of this in the movie, right?

Darryl Brice 💐 That is lovely to hear.

@D123 Mahesh Atta boy! may your grandchildren want to know your tales!

@@trevorjarvis3050 My children already know my tales, so it's a start.

Kelly Hudson: That was just the start of her career, and she was well known in NYC, but not as much outside. Her trip around the world, however, brought her international fame, as she was also racing another reporter from a rival newspaper. People followed her trip through the newspaper, and turned out in huge crowds to greet her. There was a board game made of her trip, and the newspaper didn’t know quite what to do with a journalist who was also a world-wide celebrity after she got home.

Nicole Wuelleh It isn’t a commentary on our mundane lives just on the interesting brave life of hers; but I just finished bemoaning my boring life in a couple of other threads here so I am being a hypocrite. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Sorry! This is a work in progress : I have to tell myself what I tell the kids all the time: that every life counts and is special in its own way. Hearing about the fantastic adventures of one person does not make my life any less. I can be happy for that person, admire them, learn something good from them if I can but ultimately I will live my life and I will leave my mark on this world in my own way. I really wish there will come a time when women’s psche is healed generation after generation until hearing about each other’s success will just be that without any subtext from the evil twin inside of us called self doubt.

That response is beautiful!👏👏👏.

@@ranz2355 Don't know. Maybe he was just tired of hypocrites in general. But of course you could question his motives to discredit him.