Hey there! What're your thoughts of Nattramn and Silencer's stories as a whole? How do you feel about the music? Let me know down below! Thank you so much for watching! Cheers, and rock on, Review Family!
I just listened to the album and loved it. It's pretty sad and scary. However I feel like your video was kinda overblown and silly, lol (it was a good video tho). I seriously doubt Nattramn cut off his own hands.
Well, tbh, most of the stories surrounding Nattramn is just made up. I don't what and how much though. The most obvious one is that he cut off his hands and replaced them with those of a pig. That one is most certainly a made up story/rumor. I don't believe he got institutionalized, but it's more plausible. There's also another story where he almost killed a young girl with an axe, but that's definitely another rumor or fake story. If it was real, there surely would've been much more info and coverage about this event. It is most likely that he had or has some kind of mental illness though. Self harm is also possible. Though if it was to the extent that's been claimed, I doubt it. There's a DSBM band I really like called Shining. The vocalist & frontman of the band occasionally self harms. On photos you can often see his scars. I think Silencer & Shining introduced me to DSBM. It's not for everyone, but I absolutely love it! Perhaps bit lengthy response, but hey.
I don’t know if someone already said this but: In Swedish folklore a nattramn is the ghost of someone who took their own life. They usually appear as a bird, most often a raven.
I wonder if Dead (Per Ohlin) from Mayhem knew that, and that's why he picked a dead raven to inhale before concerts? And yes, he did that to get himself "in character" before shows, in addition to burying his clothes in dirt
@@kh22912 Dead was just a tortured soul. Died young. Died violently. Fun fact: He died April 8th, 1992. The very same day that two years later, Kurt Cobain would be found dead. Both died the same way, both were in their mid 20's.
Nattramn didn't commit suicide, never axed a 5 year old girl and never replaced his hands with pig feet. Everything about Nattramn on the imternet is just rumors. In his book called "Grishjarta" that consists pictures of Nattramn where he has normal hands.
You'd have to be so gullible to believe he actually did that to himself. First of all, even a surgeon couldn't do it with fresh pig's feet that were JUST cut off a live pig that isn't sick or anything, as the human body would likely reject it as it even rejects human parts unless maybe taking meds that prevent the body from rejecting it. But no way he could just do that to himself or have an amateur do it and the pig's feet wouldn't likely be fresh enough to heal properly and not be rejected by the body. I've never even heard of pig organs being used you'd think if that were possible it'd be done all the time and there wouldn't be such demand for human donors. Of course someone with bad enough mental health could ATTEMPT to do it with complications, that's a different story. But that myth implies they actually healed on properly. TBH I haven't watched this full video yet lol and have only heard this rumor before.
Personally I find his vocals silly and not disturbing which makes it hard to take the music seriously. Hence why I've never been into this album as much as other people
Yeah i don't think the whole natramn controversy is real at all but it's very interesting to read about none the less. Would definetly make a good creepypasta.
@Sergio-nb4hj It's not unbelievable ... Many people do it.. During recording, live shows, and simply doing mundane things... Nobody is denying that... But cutting your hands off with an axe and sowing pigs feet on them!?.. come on now!! That's physically impossible ... Silencer is an art project.. I am willing to bet that the blood in the pictures is fake ( although I might be wrong but I doubt it).. It's an art project telling the story of a fictional deranged man
The story of him chopping off his hands are absolute garbage, but it’s still shocking if your not familiar with the story. I personally find his vocals to be hilarious because he sounds like old school Eric Cartman at times
I can not take nattramn seriously, he sounds like Mr Hanky the Christmas Poo. All I can picture is Mr Hanky saying "Oooo Cut me kill me take my life" and it's hilarious.
Yes living in the north can cause depression and mental illness. I live in Northern canada, full blown winter lasts from October to May and the darkness is lingering. There is a suicide once if not twice a month in my town.
These dives into obscure black metal are really really great. Your review videos are not my thing, but if you keep making stuff like this I'll be coming back! Keep it up
Thank you so much! I'm DEFINITELY planning a TON more video essay related videos upcoming, some of which already have scripts ready and are awaiting recordings, so just look out for those! Some might not be up your alley, but I'm definitely going to do more of them as I really enjoy it! :)
I heard it years back, a german Metal RU-vidr (Der Dunkle Parabelritter) made a Video about the most legendary crimes in Black Metal, and this Story was part of it too. It is very interesting and I guess the truth is one of the best kept secrets in Metal. And even tho I am not a fan of this muic, I have Lots of respect for the story alone.... Anyway, cool Video, I like the series 👍 Another interesting topic would be the Stallagh project
Nah, haha. Considering there is minimal imagery associated with this project, I included various images that correlated to the genre for ambiance/to carry the story along. :) cheers
While I do think most of the things people have talked about him whether you believe it or not. The only thing that I would say that is the most BELIEVABLE story is about him self-harming during the recording of his album.
This side of black metal is rubbish that I really couldn't care less for. As for Nattramn, I have heard this story in the past. As soon as you mentioned the pig's hands, I immediately remembered it. Mental illness is definitely a factor in all of this. There seems to be something very wrong in the minds of many of these Scandinavian musicians. I do notice some patterns with them, but that's a discussion for another time. In some cases, it has to do with art and expression, but I also think that there is a little more to it. Part of me wonders if this kind of stuff--"art", as they call it--can be traced back to Vincent van Gogh, the painter who cut off his own ear.
@@UJJYY Oh, I totally agree with you! The weather and depressing landscape has an impact on people's psyche. I was born and raised in Canada, and it's the same northern shit of a culture. Cold attitudes, white-people paranoia, everything is expensive, mental health is thrown into everything... I totally get it. I just wonder, about the part where people don't fit the societal mold, how does that affect a cis-straight man to that extreme extent? That's something I wish to have explained one day. Cheers. Edit: Anti-depressants are extremely common here as well.
@@UJJYY Interesting. What you describe sounds exactly like Canada and America. You can be white, cis, heterosexual, rich, married, and have the entire American dream, but there is always something that's still wrong with you. The West is a funny place.
I’m super late to replying to your comment, but have to say I 100% agree. I used to be pretty into black metal when I was like 15. I was going through a really hard time and found that black metal in particular, with the agonising vocals and all, helped me a bit to get through it & sort of resonated with me. However, the history regarding all of these weird Scandinavian metal musicians is super dark & twisted, and there definitely seems to be something messed up about them. They all seem to have really traumatised minds/psyches or often just straight up become psychopaths & criminals. It’s weird for sure, and some of the more outrageous and outlandish behaviour of certain edgy metal musicians really puts me off from still enjoying the genre & the various subcultures from it.
I’m sorry but the way he sounds during his shrieking sounds like the equivalent of a looney tunes character shouting “whaaaa-hoooo” after sitting on something hot 😂
I only just got around to commenting on this. Yeah, let's just say the music displayed in this video is quite unsettling, to say the least, and that's coming from somebody who has heard and seen the weirdest shit. 🙂 Also sick intro by Michael! Adds a really nice eerie touch to your editing specifically in this video. I appreciate how much effort you put into your video essays. ♡
Thank you so much! I REALLY enjoy making video essays as a whole and I am happy others enjoy and appreciate them as well. Makes it feel worth it to share these stories! And yeah! Coming from someone that's heard just about everything that could freak someone out, it still makes me feel uneasy, haha.
I was really listening to this with reverence and rapt attention. Then you played their music and it sounded like Spongebob when he thought the Hash-Slinging Slasher was gonna get him.
When I heard their music for the first time I was 13 years old and I gave up listening to metal for a week bc I legit thought he did all that stuff. 8 years later I cant help but laugh at how ridiculously stupid his voice sounds.
Probably I'm insane too I consider this high quality art... besides all criminal things he was supposed to have done, his music and bloody art was straight out of his soul, mentally ill yes, but still pure art. I don't support self harm and ffs don't do it, but I still find his art haunting and appealing to my soul.
lmao. You where hyping his vocals up as unsettling and disturbing.. when the clip played I couldn't hold my laughter over that autistic screetching that sounded like a 10 year old who discovered Mayhem and wants to emulate the vocals
Quite a complex and scary story. Take it fact or fiction, it is scary great. Though I feel bad for the man. Also, heard your recent Pokemon-based rap battle, you did awesome. Also, a Pokemon RPG is coming in 2022 and Diamond and Pearl remakes are coming this Fall.
Agreed. Glad you enjoyed! And thank you very much, I'm glad you liked the battle! I'm very excited for those remakes as well, as they were my first gen!
you can see in the pictures he didn’t actually cut off his hands, his hands are visible under the bandages and GOD WE ALL KNOW YOU’D DIE IF YOU CUT OFF YOUR HAND BY YOUR SELF AT HOME DUH. Also people would know if someone tried to kill a kid with an axe, i’d make headlines. They’re just trying gain clout
you missed the part where he commited a violent crime against a young girl and thats why he was institutionalized. idk about now days but back around 12 years ago there were official news stories online about it but the details were as few as most other info regarding Silencer/ Nattram
I bet the "Nattramn" is a normal guy who just made this history to make the project more famous as it like varg vikernes did or something like that. I can't tell my point, but i mean like its just an dsbm project and one of the most iconic dsbm project and like bro that not makes sense someone cutoff his hand and replaced them with pig legs =)))
And this misinformation causes people like me who do this genre whole society to look like a psychopath and a guy who replaces his hands with pig legs haha. And my point was kinda like bro just don't take it too much seriously
It's good music lol the rest all an act . Someone like him would have old scars that are clearly visible . His skin look soft and smooth with not a scar in sight like he just plays dnd for life . I bought the death peirce me cd book thing with all the pics they took and they are clear. No scars at all . It's just music
Nothing about this is complex at all. The amount of comments I'm seeing about it and your video show how poorly researched and how little any of you know. His brother was the one who committed the attack on the girl and he killed himself in the psychiatric hospital not long after. The fact any of you have to state that he didn't actually cut his hands off and sew pigs hands on is just laughable - of course he didnt do it. Nattramn was the main suspect of a double murder of an 8 year old and a 54 year old in 2004, however only recently were they able to use DNA to prove who did it. A 34 year old man has been sent to a psychiatric hospital for the crimes and according to his website this is not Nattramn. Research better next time its embarrassing you call this a "video essay".
Nattramn was real he was real and he was a Great man he was sent to a insane asylum but not for the incident with those girls that was his older brother Patrick
The pained vocal sounds a lot like the on and off vokills of Bethlehem from Germany forget his name now But the last Bethlehem i heard was A lady on vocals ,oneliner from nocturnal mortem .Good stuff
DSBM is one of my favourite kinds of black metal, I understand the pain some artist go through.... Shure some stuff is just a hole lot of bullshit and it's for the sake of Painful artistic showcase or something.乁( •_• )ㄏ But it's still very interesting
Nattamn was real but he's gone now. dead he was a great man showing the world what the true cesspool it was but he never tried to kill little girls that was his older brother Patrick
how, he said that everything is shrouded in mystery, Nattrumn didn't cut off his hands and replace them with pig feet and the dude acknowledged that that is just a theory
